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Well That Was a Scam

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Күн бұрын

The sad story of the sondors metacycle. A failed product, bankruptcy, and lots of unhappy customers that lost money.
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@iwasframed1370
@iwasframed1370 Ай бұрын
I have a feeling this is what's going on with the Lyric Graffiti X.
@simms196
@simms196 Ай бұрын
I hope not. I pre paid for one back in Jan, expected delivery in Aug.
@tonyholmes9024
@tonyholmes9024 Ай бұрын
I do too. I definitely don't see it coming in August
@realMDizzy
@realMDizzy Ай бұрын
Is it delayed? I pre-ordered the original graffiti and it showed up on my doorstep. The X has also been reviewed by some of the regular reviewers so I think you all should be fine. It may be delayed but I think it'll show up. I did do a Kickstarter for the helix folding bike and waited 5vyears for it to arrive though lol. Some of the original Kickstarter people are still waiting like 8 years later!!!!!
@iwasframed1370
@iwasframed1370 Ай бұрын
@@simms196 They were originally supposed to come out like September 2023. It been pushed off a few times.
@Timbodacious
@Timbodacious Ай бұрын
Yeah they have to have enough preorders to fill a 40 foot shipping container to make a profit off of the bike
@cocoabiscuits
@cocoabiscuits Ай бұрын
Some companies try but end up like the Fisker of EVs
@the180degreerule3
@the180degreerule3 Ай бұрын
you don't get into business to ' try ' you do or stay away or else you're set to fail which is fair enough but others will have to make their way through the common difficulties of the business + the fear those who ' try ' cause in the market and that is bad for everyone.
@Atrip111
@Atrip111 Ай бұрын
I literally saw someone driving it one down the road yesterday
@kimhyunwoo8983
@kimhyunwoo8983 Ай бұрын
Same one of my neighbors has one
@mattmiller4917
@mattmiller4917 Ай бұрын
Some buyers received them, many more didn't
@Jaysee2164
@Jaysee2164 Ай бұрын
i see these pop up for sale all the time here in nyc, always thought they looked cool tho
@chillcc1
@chillcc1 Ай бұрын
We just took delivery of both a Lyric Ghost and a Voodoo. Nearly a year after ordering, but it is what it is, and this practice seems to be the norm with many of these new ebike companies. On the bright side Lyric has a more pragmatic strategy of delivering their product to market by capping orders and focusing on small batches. I am sure delivery of the Graffiti X will happen
@Catamount19
@Catamount19 Ай бұрын
Super 73 c1x? Are they next?
@mattmiller4917
@mattmiller4917 Ай бұрын
I doubt it, though you never know. Super 73 is not a company that has a long history of deceptive funding practices like Sondors, and they have a more loyal owner base.
@Rogue_1987
@Rogue_1987 Ай бұрын
This is EXACTLY what Ristretto did hokding peoples money for over a year to produce the 512 and LIED about everything. The bikes finally arrived and the bikes are NOT what they said they were.
@davecook81
@davecook81 Ай бұрын
Apex Predator is starting to look that way. They refuse to provide updates.
@DaBinChe
@DaBinChe Ай бұрын
hub motors just don't cut it
@SolarScootersuk
@SolarScootersuk Ай бұрын
Very expensive to produce
@necavenue
@necavenue Ай бұрын
@@SolarScootersuk Gearless hub motors are actually pretty cheap.
@grb1969
@grb1969 Ай бұрын
The two solutions necessary are to require that all deposits be held in escrow or ‘secured’ by a third party. And two, force all speculative investments to hold all IP in a ‘public trust’ that looses private property rights protections if the company should fail to meet the median industry performance expectations within 7 or less years. These two regulatory changes would decrease the perverse economic incentives that allow unmitigated risk to accumulate within highly speculative publicly funded losses into privately subsidized gains. Hint: it’s not going to happen without legitimate Government.
@blazingstars748
@blazingstars748 22 күн бұрын
Will there be 15min quick charging next year ?
@chandleredwards
@chandleredwards 22 күн бұрын
Storm Sondors screwed investors, customers, dealers and contractors. Hear Sondors has new owners and I hope everything works out. 🤞
@EMTBonsai
@EMTBonsai 27 күн бұрын
Why didn’t they start up a kickstarter fund have people who wanted one invest innthe brand/company? What everyone does woth new 3D printer's coming to the market and if you pay for it youll be the first to get yours before officially released! Its a great genuine thing I've used it twice now to help development of products come to market!
@Folsomdsf2
@Folsomdsf2 Ай бұрын
fyi apple is not reputable at all tbh, the only reason it's ok to preorder is their cash on hand as they're not using you as funding
@tonypalmentera7752
@tonypalmentera7752 Ай бұрын
The kickstarters and Indiegogo's are fine, if you have a product they allow. If you are inventing firearm technology, forget it. You have to take pre-orders, or you'll sell your company to creditors and investors, piece by piece, round by round of new investment. If you want to own your own idea, you have to take pre-orders for some products.
@Romiman1
@Romiman1 Ай бұрын
In Germany there was a similar looking electric bike, called "Novus". It should be sold for incredible 30.000€. Of course also that project died immediately. (Also Nico Rosberg was asked to investigate and he is smart enough not to do so.)
@necavenue
@necavenue Ай бұрын
I was initially excited about the Metacycle when I learned about it back then since I already own a Sondors ebike, but I had a wait and see attitude because they didn't have a history of good after sales support. I figured a $5K electric motorcyle needs good support just in case the product had issues. When they started to change the design to make it road legal while also increasing the price, it started to look less appealing especially since it costs more than a brand-new Kawasaki Ninja 250. You'd still need a motorcycle license plus have it registered and insured to operate. Way too risky to pour money into for something that may not live up to the hype. While the Metacycle did get into the hands of some who preordered, there isn't any after sale support.
@NiamDennegar
@NiamDennegar Ай бұрын
I’m glad I never gave them money, I forget when I discovered Sondors but it when around when media was covering their 3-wheeled car (or I guess auto cycle is what states legally refer them as). It was super weird (and tbh now, a bit sketchy) seeing them work on other stuff instead of pouring everything into their auto cycle, I never put a deposit I was just eager for production to start so the product can launch & I can buy - which I guess turned into the best decision cuz I avoided the headache of getting scammed. I still want someone to come out with an auto cycle like Model Sodors though, having a brand new off the shelf electric car for only $10K would be dope! I get it’s not for everyone, Americans love their SUVs but me personally screw the SUV if I could change citizenships now I would haha :P I’m half joking but srsly can we bring back small cars please, more bicycles, more walkable communities, maybe this is a sign I should just move to Europe lol.
@dlh1228
@dlh1228 21 күн бұрын
I love mine! It is a great bike if you can get one.
@theitconsultant
@theitconsultant 23 күн бұрын
They are back btw
@j0se.artur0
@j0se.artur0 Ай бұрын
I think Land District is as close to the SONDORS Metacycle in regards to style. But obviously not on price. I've got one, let me know if want to borrow for a day or a week for an honest review on your channel. I know you hate chain bikes for their annoying loud sound vs belts. But I think worth it for feeling that power on Land District. And I think it's a benefit for other drivers to hear you coming near them as a safety precaution... IMO
@necavenue
@necavenue Ай бұрын
The Land District looks like something some dude built in his garage. At least the Metacycle looks like a proper production bike and actually made it to market.
@j0se.artur0
@j0se.artur0 28 күн бұрын
@@necavenue Land District motorcycles are being sold NOW to market. And made out of Cleavland, OH. Whereas Sondoros Metacycle is DONE, and bankrupt and were manufactured some where in Asia as this video informed. So not sure what you're talking about.
@necavenue
@necavenue 28 күн бұрын
@@j0se.artur0 It still looks like a kit bike that some dude cobbled together in his garage. Not to mention way overpriced at $12K..😂 For that kind of money I could get a FUELL Fllow or a real man's electric motorcycle like a LiveWire S2 Del Mar! Also direct drive on the Metacycle is better than chain...zero maintenance.
@AndrewB-kq7qe
@AndrewB-kq7qe 26 күн бұрын
Never ever do pre-orders period. Apple is dirty as well, but I different ways.. Better yet, get some tools in your hands and build your own and have a sense of pride for the bike, any twat with cash can buy,,
@Full_Throttle_no_Brakes
@Full_Throttle_no_Brakes Ай бұрын
It was not a scam. They just went bankrupt, but they delivered a few bikes prior to bankruptcy, and they were a very good electric bicycle before that
@jimmyelliott7473
@jimmyelliott7473 Ай бұрын
Will Saunders has struggled since the very beginning they started on Kickstarter what's an electric e-bike and they took forever to deliver that bike they took so long that people actually thought they were getting ripped off but eventually long after the promise due date they finally started delivering their e-bike and since then we've actually come out with several models for their e-bike line kind of looks like they bid off a little more than they could chew with the motorcycle concept
@tyronedaniels8831
@tyronedaniels8831 Ай бұрын
Lyric huck onyx all under damn virus cycles
@slimdunkin117
@slimdunkin117 Ай бұрын
Sondors was a huge ebike company..and the early preorder people actually were the ones to get their bikes..it’s the later buyers that got screwed
@cantfixasandwich4672
@cantfixasandwich4672 Ай бұрын
Everyone got screwed. The people that received these bikes probably got screwed the most. Now they have a 6500 dollar product with no support behind it. Good luck with parts and repairs
@slimdunkin117
@slimdunkin117 Ай бұрын
@@cantfixasandwich4672 they paid 5000, or 4500 on the preorders..look at owner reviews, they like it. It’s the price of an electric dirt bike. And the design of it is unique so it’ll prolly end up as some collectors item
@James-mh4nn
@James-mh4nn Ай бұрын
Ohhh I really wanted it 😢
@georgekrpan3181
@georgekrpan3181 Ай бұрын
I don't think wasn't a deliberate scam. I think they honestly thought they could bring an electric motorcycle to the market and succeed. Sorry, but gas is the way to go with motorcycles. Ebikes are great but not emotos.
@NPLVentures
@NPLVentures Ай бұрын
good intentions won’t get peoples money back
@georgekrpan3181
@georgekrpan3181 Ай бұрын
@@NPLVentures Evidently Sonders was doing things on a shoestring. I give them credit for trying.
@chokeeweebee
@chokeeweebee Ай бұрын
e-motorcycles are red herrings, Ditch the motorcycle styling and turn it into a maxi scooter like the PCX or Nmax and that's the ideal form for electric bikes with lots of storage space that doesn't get cooked by an anemic 125cc engine, it'll provide more than enough power with an electric motor above 6kw's.
@SolarScootersuk
@SolarScootersuk Ай бұрын
@@NPLVenturestrue
@georgekrpan3181
@georgekrpan3181 Ай бұрын
@@chokeeweebee I agree, emotos are red herrings. I can tell you there's little interest in them from motorcyclists. Ebikers seem to be the ones interested in emotos. But, like a gas moto, emotos need a drivers license, registration, helmet, and protective clothing. Emotos are hugely disadvantaged by price, performance, and range.
@gphilipc2031
@gphilipc2031 Ай бұрын
Vapocrapware
@ad2.racing22
@ad2.racing22 Ай бұрын
You part of them as well
@ka124as
@ka124as Ай бұрын
inb4 Break Away Bike
@jesserawmartinez6453
@jesserawmartinez6453 Ай бұрын
Onyx rcr by
@topelite666
@topelite666 Ай бұрын
that bike was a huge POS. suprised anyone bought it
@slimdunkin117
@slimdunkin117 Ай бұрын
No it was solid for the price. The early adopters got their bikes and seemed happy..sondors was always known for delaying and slow shipping anyway
@topelite666
@topelite666 Ай бұрын
@@slimdunkin117 idk, the battery was small, the frame was ugly / bulky / heavy, the motor sucked. it was all around a rip off for the price for 5k i could build my own bike with far better specs all around.
@jon-xt6mo
@jon-xt6mo Ай бұрын
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