Welt SUCKS with DOT? | Honkai: Star Rail PvP Reacts

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@mrpokkee 4 ай бұрын

Keeping it a buck, I'm closer with Smack thats why I wanted to banter more. Off meta teams are always fun

@deyzick32 4 ай бұрын

WE STAYING NEUTRAL WITH THIS ONE

@Yolbert 4 ай бұрын

yes pls banter more its fun content

@user-gj5gu2wl9f 4 ай бұрын

Belabog enjoyer💀💀

@user-gj5gu2wl9f 4 ай бұрын

Respectfully😂

@maseprins3434 4 ай бұрын

Lmao Gacha Vs Pokke is the greatest red Vs Blue rivalry ever. "Respectfully"

@MolcutRegele 4 ай бұрын

Cannot wait for gachasmack to react to this and start a new yappfest.

@fyw_delta 4 ай бұрын

gachayap😭🙏

@jsk1429 4 ай бұрын

He already did on stream

@treasure9342 4 ай бұрын

Smack and pokke have a back and forth wholesome internet war, it's very fun

@DarlingOhayoMilwin 4 ай бұрын

Fluent in yapanese

@idk6465 4 ай бұрын

He can't defend it, he knows this was sub par.

@nequitia4665 4 ай бұрын

DoT + welt + MoC debuff = the most backloaded team in history

@NorthernWind26 4 ай бұрын

Cry

@kuvjason7236 4 ай бұрын

Ngl, this was theee easiest MoC ever and I didn't even run a DoT comp... just the usual dps and supports

@marielgalicha8548 4 ай бұрын

@@kuvjason7236 I agree and since everyone have Dr. Ratio... He literally carried me in this MOC

@-Insert-Name_Here- 4 ай бұрын

I agree the team comp is really soild if you aren’t trying to 0 cycle

@morrowthewizard3945 4 ай бұрын

Backloaded into 3 rd cycle

@drakeeybro 4 ай бұрын

Asian Tectone Vs Black Tectone

@tucosalamanca5818 4 ай бұрын

Here's what tectone would look like if he was black or chinese

@cursey7304 4 ай бұрын

@@tucosalamanca5818 why not furrify him instead?

@Gottaloveaxolotls 4 ай бұрын

@@cursey7304I’d strongly recommend not but that’s up to whoever wants to either draw or cosplay that. Not me

@thederp9309 4 ай бұрын

@@GottaloveaxolotlsTectone would start yapping like a chihuahua if he was furrified…. That’s his fursona now… let’s make it happen

@crowing3886 4 ай бұрын

Tectone doesn't theory craft nor sweat like this at all lol.

@Azeria0955 4 ай бұрын

the vulnerability debuff from black swan is only at the enemy's turn so it wouldn't really change much. 7:46

@rikkucrowe 4 ай бұрын

Ok that's what I thought when he was saying that I was like am I tripping did I read her kit wrong

@jantrm4816 4 ай бұрын

Ultimate Bliss of Otherworld's Embrace AoE | 120 energy cost Lv. 10 Energy gain: 5 Break: 60 Inflicts Epiphany on all enemies for 2 turn(s). Enemies affected by Epiphany take 25% more DMG in their turn, and their Arcana effect is regarded as Wind Shear, Bleed, Burn, and Shock effects. In addition, when their Arcana effect is triggered at the beginning of the next turn, the Arcana stacks are not reset. The stack non-reset effect can be triggered up to 1 time(s) in Epiphany's duration, and its charges are replenished when Epiphany is applied again. Deals Wind DMG equal to 120% of Black Swan's ATK to all enemies.

@Yachii 4 ай бұрын

If you use ult in between 2 attacks by the big enemy does it keep vulnerability?

@rikkucrowe 4 ай бұрын

@@Yachii yes because it's there turn

@zeyez4961 4 ай бұрын

Gacha Smack could have used Misha in place of Welt for "SUS"tain purposes and gain extra turns because of destruction or hunt "extra turn" from the weather... but not many people paid attention to his kit yet, which can, at least, almost guarantee freeze against one target without any EHR investment

@heisenburger16 4 ай бұрын

I dont think he even built Misha at all

@e_x_c_u_b_i_t_o_r_ejiysb7169 4 ай бұрын

The enemies needed breaking so Misha is not applicable

@keneunaegbu851 4 ай бұрын

It's not that deep...

@marielgalicha8548 4 ай бұрын

I heard he still haven't even touch and built Misha at all... Pretty sure he doesn't know his whole kit yet

@treasure9342 4 ай бұрын

Uh nobody built misha and since he's a boy he gets sent STRAIGHT TO F TEIR because nobody cares

@GachaSmack07 4 ай бұрын

GENUINELY! RESPECTFULLY! NEUTRALLY! 😡

@mrpokkee 4 ай бұрын

DADDYSMACK

@edwinchew6 4 ай бұрын

BS vulnerability debuff is only during enemy's turn lol

@marupurusaivamsi4802 4 ай бұрын

Yeah everyone forgetting or overlooking that. I would have made good otherwise out of dot teams.

@pinkinglily6447 4 ай бұрын

It used to actually apply the vulnerability debuff normally back when BS kit are leaked, but I guess pokee missed the change

@QuietCrow009 4 ай бұрын

it can still be used if you can interrupt 2 turn bosses.

@eden5560 4 ай бұрын

One thing that Pokke misinterpreted is that Epiphany doesn't give vulnerability nor does it buff non DoT dmg. Epiphany gives a dmg taken bonus, so its like a dmg bonus on the DoT's, also, the dmg bonus only triggers at the start of the enemies' turns, so Destiny using it just to proc Ratio's Wiseman's Folly isn't really much of a misplay by her. There is a way for non DoT units to benefit from Epiphany, but their actions would have to happen in between an elite/boss mobs turn and extra turn, so even if she saved for that, it wouldn't be much for anything, since Kafka was already down the action line and the Aurumatron was weakness broken.

@411mklr 4 ай бұрын

Need a Smack vs Pokke 1v1 when Sparkle comes out. Smack with Sparkle and QQ v Pokke with Seele and Sparkle

@xtiyan2250 4 ай бұрын

Smack basically fit his favorite characters in one team.

@joaquinchua3348 4 ай бұрын

Gacha Smack in his video : I am one of the BEST HSR players in the world Also Smack :

@whizzo7893 4 ай бұрын

I think it’s pretty established that Welt + DOT in limited cycle clear stages (MOC/Pure Fiction) sucks. Welt’s CC in general actually kinda sucks for timed clears. However… Welt + DOT is actually insane in Simulated Universe. Granted, almost anything can work in SU, but since you’re not timed, you can just take your time stacking them big juicy DOTs.

@dannylee1523 4 ай бұрын

Simu is also progressively harder with the special modes - you can actually straight up die so survival tools are more beneficial.

@mrdeafter 4 ай бұрын

you can only stack wind and arcana tho ? stacking other dot only extend their duration not the damage. Welt+Dot in SU is literally a troll build without Kafka because enemy never get to have their dot proc. But tbf I like troll build lol

@-Insert-Name_Here- 4 ай бұрын

Welt ain’t bad, he’s just not meant for speed running, but if your not trying to 0 cycle or clear quickly, then this team comp is really solid for its low failure rate

@dreamwelch8100 4 ай бұрын

Welt = Sampo(random hit)😂 That's what I don't like about using Welt in MoC😆 Welt as sub dps = approve😎👍

@danielevans1734 4 ай бұрын

@mrdeafter there is a nihility blessing in SU that let's anyone proc dots when they hit enemies like kafka's skill does, so u can use welt to abuse turn order and have ppl constantly proc dots on enemies in SU at least

@tobizerker4153 4 ай бұрын

Pokke and smack are deadass like me and my brother.

@PersonaPrime 4 ай бұрын

HOLY BACKLOADED DMG

@goodmoringful 4 ай бұрын

I don’t remember what video but I’ve heard how Welt can’t synergies with dot comps because of his canceling on dot damage. I think god doggos should take welt instead, cuz of how imprisonment synergies with freeze. Then Gachasmack can trade welt with Pela. With freeze you can still apply dot and gets it triggered after freeze effect disappears.

@Kurppalumppu 4 ай бұрын

13:04 That Luka basic ATK at level 4/7 is certainly something alright...

@shyamakpal 4 ай бұрын

the bleed reproc scales of talent not basic atk level

@muhammedsultanmustapha6571 4 ай бұрын

i honestly think arcanas damage on that horse wasnt realky useful because of 40% resistance to wind. Stacking arcana with kafka would have cleared it slower.

@rhaelsura96 4 ай бұрын

Your look in the intro with the glasses and hair reminds me of Sinu Han from Lookism

@jakit0556 4 ай бұрын

crazy to aknowledge that the best clear was from himeko asta

@notnotnotyou 4 ай бұрын

8:35 if yukong skilled, wouldn’t ratio have to do a NA because of sp?

@PK-mh9qf 4 ай бұрын

Secret DoT synergy: After an enemy unfreezes, they gain a 50% action advance E1 March with Vonwaq and 4pc Wind set would've been a more fun showcase than Welt. She needs a metric ton of effect hit rate though, and enemies like Kafka will always have a chance at resisting the freeze.

@relter-qj4pd 4 ай бұрын

I don’t know if Mrpokke you know this or not and i don’t know if Gachasmack explained it yet, but his idea behind this team was probably for welt to slow so his luka and Black Swan could stack their DoTs before the enemy’s turn, he just executed it rather poorly(not saying i can do better). Nice video though!

@rsrafi182 4 ай бұрын

i have a quick question , how is wind set with black swan? she is at 148 speed with usual stats .. i pair her with 153 kafka with her arti . should I keep it or burn my resin to farm dot set?

@violet_lilac 4 ай бұрын

She doesn't ult that often, only Pela can use that set.

@AstaDemi 4 ай бұрын

Ur black swan should be faster* than kafka

@michaelyang838 4 ай бұрын

???? If you have Kafka as well why would not farm the dot set

@michaelyang838 4 ай бұрын

@@AstaDemidon’t be a clown, it is not a “must”, swan doesn’t do dmg and zero front load, the only benefit is the 20% def reduction, but if less speed meant much more atk, it would make her high scaling dot do much much more. God most people don’t know shit about how speed works, just put it on everything. There is no bigger clowns than dhil with speed boots

@AstaDemi 4 ай бұрын

@@michaelyang838 Chill Bruh 😂, the only reason I said BS should be faster than Kafka is cause Kafka can trigger the dots of BS and so he/she can do more dmg. I understood your point so it's cool and I just gave out my point of advice Nothing else. And bud pls try not to be so aggressive unnecessarily, it's not that deep 💀. Peace 🙌

@elynna2483 4 ай бұрын

Gacha Smack doesn't even take the full potential of MoC buffs lmao. Not even a single destruction or hunt characters. The worst part is, Welt is stalling the DoT lmao.

@WizzyTheDizzy 4 ай бұрын

Gacha Smack: Here is the best guide on the internet and i am a math enthusiast! FOLLOW MY GUIDE Also Smack: Use Dot with Welt, Crit TingYun with not enough atk. Release guides of Hp orb blade and crit kafka. No offense but these are so fking dumb.

@superblanco444 4 ай бұрын

great banter

@XMS1212X 4 ай бұрын

I hear grimro, why did he stop making videos I wonder

@maddasher8471 4 ай бұрын

maybe one day I will see a hypercarry welt.

@skel-ator 4 ай бұрын

11:30 Man this absolutely shattered me and destroyed me, my Jingliu has 177 cdmg and I thought I was doing pretty well Now I realize I was doing terrible

@EmperorMist 4 ай бұрын

Neutrally speaking facts

@chaldea_ 4 ай бұрын

The Smack banter JAJAJ

@jantrm4816 4 ай бұрын

@naufalsyauqifillah6388 4 ай бұрын

Better watch sir gachasmack bout why he pick welt bcz it just like no other choice for him...

@shotgunammo 4 ай бұрын

misha woulda been better but sure no other choice right

@bepo1702 4 ай бұрын

@@shotgunammo he probably hasn't built misha lol

@-aouza- 4 ай бұрын

9:25 imagine this hit didn't crit😂😂😂

@blazetaro1304 4 ай бұрын

In this tournament they didn't have a lot of choice to pick characters because of the rules

@joaquinchua3348 4 ай бұрын

They used a pick and ban system, much like the ones league uses for their competitive games, they drafted these teams if their own accord based on the pick/ban phase.

@shotgunammo 4 ай бұрын

Misha??

@blazetaro1304 4 ай бұрын

@@shotgunammo gacha smack did not build misha

@dvornikovalexei 4 ай бұрын

His Welt sucked because it wasn't built properly. My 150+ speed Welt on Wind set with Kafka LC would have sent Pokeclown grasshopper munching back to the land of Chowmein

@tigrang493 4 ай бұрын

the gachasmack Welt classic is iconic idc if it takes him 20 cycles to clear

@sauravsingh3448 4 ай бұрын

Cooking today?

@michaelraj5626 4 ай бұрын

@mrpokkee you didn't forget the Banning system in this tournament right??? Gacha smack choose Welt for sustain purpose bcoz they don't have a choice!!!!!😂😂😂

@dr.stonksakahelth5857 4 ай бұрын

Both teams only take one sustain lol

@xMomoee 4 ай бұрын

Lynx left the Star rail Universe. I think he mainly choose it so that he can trim down the Horse that's why he's using full Tingyun buff on Him (Welt) on First phase.

@zannax351 4 ай бұрын

Fu Xuan and lynx were both literally still free fuck you mean "no choice" ??????

@Steel12able 4 ай бұрын

@@xMomoee He chooses welt sustain it helps on breaking shield bars.

@thornszk 4 ай бұрын

luocha as well

@tayyabo 4 ай бұрын

Welt was a weird choice with dot, especially because he wasnt using kafka..

@oyfum2638 4 ай бұрын

He claimed Kafka cleared slower. Can see why since Kafka (the boss) has lightning res.

@athir04 4 ай бұрын

Yup really weird choice with dot, maybe better if run Hypercarry Welt

@PersonaPrime 4 ай бұрын

@@oyfum2638 not using Welt and using literally any sustain would have been faster.

@tayyabo 4 ай бұрын

@@athir04 prob would have been better..

@xMomoee 4 ай бұрын

@@oyfum2638 Kafka + Luka would been a Better pair Yanqing is the mistake here the team should been Team 1: SW (DPS), BS (Def shred Sub DPS), Pela, Gepard/Lynx. Team 2: Kafka, Luka, Tingyun, Welt (Cause he needs welt to destroy the horse).

@syedmusaddiqmoinuddin4760 4 ай бұрын

He could have used either luocha or fuxuan but welt 🥴 he proved prydwen ranking correct 😂

@PersonaPrime 4 ай бұрын

Fu Xuan, yes. Luocha was banned.

@dreamwelch8100 4 ай бұрын

11:21 CR 51% and CDM 178% bruh It's the same as my Seele ---->crit issue bruh😆😂

@Celbrant_Artist 4 ай бұрын

"Not going to be a very fast clear, not gonna lie" "I would be very surprised if they manage to get a 2 cycle, ill be very very surprised" Proceeds to get mad at moon for not playing it the way he would play it. Then gets mad over the speed tuning and then moon ends up with a 3 cycle lol. Not putting much faith in moon 😔I honestly thought it was impressive how they casted BS and Yukong's ult after ratio because he was going to get the crit from Yukong with the follow up. 7:00 If you look at the aurumaton's bar, it indicates that it has def shred from Black Swan. Epiphany only takes effect on the enemy's turn. Even when casting the ult in battle it specifically states "The Dmg received increases by 25% during this units turn" So how was that a misplay on Moon's part? Let's be honest 1-3 cycle clears are on the low end of clearing. I think 4-5 cycles is cutting it close and 6+ cycle clears make it muddy.

@r3dknight 4 ай бұрын

Good vid. Very educational.

@TheTenzen12 4 ай бұрын

I sort of disagree that Welt is anti-synergetic with Black Swan. Pushing enemy down is good way to apply lot of Arcana stacks, slower opponent is, more Arcana they get before it explode and reset and that also means more time will Swan have to get her ultimate up in time to freeze stacks there for another turn instead. It could be difference between 8 stacks and 2x30 (or even more) stacks.

@shotgunammo 4 ай бұрын

except they die without ever proccing the dot, idk what ur yapping, it doesnt matter how many stacks they have when it never procs, that's the equivelant of 0 stacks

@TheTenzen12 4 ай бұрын

@@shotgunammo noone that matters dies that quick.

@shotgunammo 4 ай бұрын

@TheTenzen12 brother if they die fast welt is dogshit in the comp, idk ur countering ur own points

@TheTenzen12 4 ай бұрын

@@shotgunammo I am not your brother and unless you trying run Welt/BS in Pure fiction, than don't die that fast as you imagine (and you have pretty rich imagination.) But thanks to to Welt they might take three or even more times DoT damage, which might just make difference and kill them. Feel free have last word.