The Story & Footage of LA's Most Infamous Heist Gone Wrong

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@Wendigoon 2 жыл бұрын

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@turkeyguy3611 2 жыл бұрын

Yikes

@hamnbeans8093 2 жыл бұрын

I'd do it if I had money

@wanderer9815 2 жыл бұрын

Drink Mug Root Beer and I will do a School Presentation with your videos on it.

@mr.pissshivers 2 жыл бұрын

@@wanderer9815 this is a certified mug moment

@unkledoda420 2 жыл бұрын

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@calgarmaximus 2 жыл бұрын

It's absolutely insane that historical footage can be copyright claimed

@LeGabrielMan 2 жыл бұрын

yeah you see that bank robber, He's mine

@From-North-Jersey 2 жыл бұрын

I think it might be news copter footage that was claimed. I figure the LAPD copter footage would be public record.

@CornOnMacabre69 2 жыл бұрын

Welcome to late-stage capitalism, my guy 👉😎👉

@happninmojo 2 жыл бұрын

If it's news station footage that's essentially the same as Disney or Universal. That's why many informative vids on KZfaq, that are on specific events, don't use famous or well-known footage that is owned by companies. Example: the Zapruder film with the JFK assassination, the "UFO" mass sighting footage of lights over a mountain range in Arizona or New Mexico (I forget which), etc. You'll see the footage on the History Channel or Discovery because they pay the rights to use that footage. Typically, yt channels don't because it's expensive so they'll only use stills or different footage that is close enough. Typically the companies that own the footage are very aggressive at citing videos that use their footage.

@LexYeen 2 жыл бұрын

@EL AUTENTICO Enjoy the taste of that bootleather, fellow citizen. 👉😎👉

@zettour. Жыл бұрын

Fun Fact: Just two* years* prior to the North Hollywood shootout, the movie _Heat_ released. A common criticism of _Heat_ among law enforcement had been that the shootout scene with the armed suspects was "unrealistic" because it was believed that robbers would not be that heavily armed nor willing to fight police head on. The North Holly shootout would prove all that wrong.

@grantbrendon Жыл бұрын

Yup not to mention they found a copy of heat in the robbers house

@thebig0opsyshow505 Жыл бұрын

@@grantbrendonsource?

@RiteshSingh-po7tm Жыл бұрын

@@thebig0opsyshow505 source? he made it the f*** up

@song6771 Жыл бұрын

@thebig0opsyshow505 Don't quote me on this, but I vaguely remember that the police report after investigating the guys house, they did find a copy of Heat in the living room I believe. Again, I could be wrong, but it does sound familiar.

@JimmyCoca1994 Жыл бұрын

Anybody can learn how to shoot rifles and fight the cops heavily-armed but you have to be willing to die LOL

@gaamesso8002 2 ай бұрын

30:44 "He pulls out a third and previously unused AK" This really is like something straight out of GTA

@jonathanramos8414 Ай бұрын

They got 10 stars

@evanfrabell8884 4 күн бұрын

The kevlar suits is a mission. They definitely took it from this incident

@ED-nk7wl 7 ай бұрын

My mom worked as a bank teller in the early 80s in a city just outside of LA. They had a regular that would pull up in a red mustang and rob the place every once in a while.

@wworden3868 5 ай бұрын

Oh that is too funny... It was Anthony or Flea from the Peppers in the day, they would take turns! I was a few miles away on my 40th birthday at work the day of this!

@noneknowstheswagger 5 ай бұрын

I’m giggling this is so funny to me 😭😭 “oh hey Joey, the usual?” “yep. how’s the family?”

@zacharybanks7530 4 ай бұрын

Cyrus from tpb irl?

@Uuuumm-Im-Alex 4 ай бұрын

I was gonna like your comment, but it's at a satisfying 333 likes

@SnailHatan 4 ай бұрын

Small banks and credit unions used to be insanely easy to rob. Honestly, a ton of them still are. There are career bank robbers who’ve been doing it for decades

@kososka Жыл бұрын

Something about Wendigoon calmly talking and suddenly pulling put a gun just out of frame is alwayss so funny to me

@queuedjar4578 Жыл бұрын

speak softly and carry an ak off screen

@andrecarrick6277 Жыл бұрын

He has big guns

@libbyfemenella1308 Жыл бұрын

@Cottonheaded Ninnymuggins fr I was like “WHY DO YOU HAVE THAT?!?”

@RexM-od1vt Жыл бұрын

@@libbyfemenella1308 ask yourself why he wears Hawaiian shirts and you'll understand why he needs a grenade launcher. Also he talks about conspiracies that will probably put him in grave danger.

@gabrielst828 Жыл бұрын

@@libbyfemenella1308 well... He's american, do you need more explanation than that? 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲

@casualcyberguy1314 2 жыл бұрын

“He tried to remove someone’s head because he thought it was funny.” Truly a man ahead of his time.

@darthXreven 2 жыл бұрын

ahead? I see what you did there...... if he had gotten the head off and played catch that'd be called Chuck D Head...eh?? ugh

@gracie1312 2 жыл бұрын

The Telltale Head

@gunargundarson1626 2 жыл бұрын

Pssh, that’s rookie stuff. Try decapitating and eating someone’s head they just met on a bus for the lolz (he’s out on insanity charges) THANKS CANADIAN JUSTICE.

@treyanimationz 2 жыл бұрын

Probably wanted to face off with a stronger opponent after that one

@darksydedabs 2 жыл бұрын

The severed embalmed head ??

@dr.redacted-gb5hh 4 ай бұрын

"*Larry was in no condition to drive at the moment*" had me dying

@seif9923 Ай бұрын

lol same

@callumnorris3738 Ай бұрын

It had Larry dead

@urbanflowk3788 5 ай бұрын

41:45 I absolutely love that the SWAT team guy on the bottom of the screen is in shorts. That dude is my hero

@larryminton2670 4 ай бұрын

I believe the Metro officers were having a training day when they were notified to respond to the scene which was miles away. Also, I heard that Van Nuys Sgt. Papworth made the decision to obtain AR's from B&B Gun Store.

@ScottSummers-m5l 4 күн бұрын

When that alert goes out, it doesnt matter how many are needed, but i know how many theywill use..(all). Guys will show up in party hats, swimsuits and bbq aprons to assist.

@urbanflowk3788 4 күн бұрын

@@ScottSummers-m5l jump out boys are so cool

@StuAus Жыл бұрын

Were any banks robbed while the 300 cops were dealing with this? What a perfect time for a bank robbery on the other side of town.

@cheekibreekigameringandsuc1037 Жыл бұрын

that's so true. same can be done during, bomb threats, robberies, etc. which is scary to think that if multiple serious crimes happened at once the police would be overwhelmed and things would be much worse

@StuAus Жыл бұрын

@@criticalmoment3859 Makes sense, gonna have a lot of angry customers though hahaha.

@fightmem8931 Жыл бұрын

@@criticalmoment3859 i assure you they didnt close down the thousands of other banks in LA because this one was being robbed

@erichughes284 Жыл бұрын

Yes and no

@Martin.S.Langley Жыл бұрын

@@cheekibreekigameringandsuc1037 that is kind of like what Anders Brevik did, he bombed a some office and then went postal on some people on an island.

@stuglife5514 2 жыл бұрын

The craziest thing about this shootout was the news reporter who was casually reporting from behind a car while the shooters were actually shooting at him. Note, a 7.62x39mm will punch through and out the other side of a car. The only thing that will sufficiently stop the bullet is the engine block. Mans strait up was in the line of fire and didn’t care.

@TNASTY6688846993 2 жыл бұрын

He may not have understood that, in the movies cars stop bullets so people think that's how it really is.

@herrschmidt5477 2 жыл бұрын

well it depends on the range to the gun.

@kalashnikovdog6131 2 жыл бұрын

@@herrschmidt5477 at 300 yards a 7.62x39 has the same foot/pounds of energy as a .44 Magnum. Even a "lowly" 9mm Luger can punch through both windshields of a car. Cars are not safe from gunfire in any way shape or form. Even hiding behind the engine block can cause you to take shrapnel or richochets from the bullet tearing through the body of the vehicle. If you take cover behind a vehicle, it's better to be about a body's length away. "Stay off the walls"

@stuglife5514 2 жыл бұрын

@@kalashnikovdog6131 Finally someone who understands these kinds of things hahaha

@BearsInTheBeehive 2 жыл бұрын

Jorge Viera initially didnt understand that the person he was filming was one of the robbers, he thought it was a SWAT officer. So it wasnt so much he didnt care, it was that he didnt know, and by the time he knew he was in the line of fire with no way to retreat (plus it made for some exceptional footage).

@twohorsesinamancostume7606 7 ай бұрын

I was actually home sick when this happened with a massive fever. Was absolutely surreal to watch this happen live on T.V. Come to think of it, I was rarely sick as a kid but it seems like whenever something screwed up happened in the 90s I was home sick and ended up watching it on the news. Rodney King, the last day of Waco, the Oklahoma City bombing. All watched live on T.V.

@bizooty8782 2 ай бұрын

Let me know when you get the flu so I know to stay inside.

@chipmunkgarcia Ай бұрын

Let us know when we need to stay home, please and thank you!!🙏🙏😂😂

@3RAN7ON 5 ай бұрын

41:47 officer boxer briefs reporting for duty! 😅 Dude probably heard the call over the radio and went ASAP! What a stud!

@chubbyDAW 3 ай бұрын

Was looking for this comment😂😂😂

@mfgreviews5028 2 ай бұрын

He's Swat and they was having an exercise training session when they was called for immediate assistance

@k1ssmyfast 2 жыл бұрын

This reminds me of the guy who snapped and turned his bulldozer into a tank and had a war with the cops in his city. Wendigoon I’d love to see you do a video on this. The story itself is pretty crazy and kinda sad.

@coledibiase5971 2 жыл бұрын

Fun fact about that, he didn't intend to hurt anyone, and he didn't. He only damaged property, in retaliation for the fact that the city fucked him over hard.

@nynameisnyan20 2 жыл бұрын

its killdozer and Count Dankula did a 40min video on it

@Zanzibar_Dallax 2 жыл бұрын

*Marvin Heemeyer* was an American patriot 🌺

@idontwantahandlethough 2 жыл бұрын

Oh man I had forgotten about that, that whole saga is absolutely bonkers

@lewando4287 2 жыл бұрын

All hail marvin meeyer

@Zain-fu9zp Жыл бұрын

'So while not 28 individual bullets, im still sure he was having a terrible time.' Wendigoon would've made a great reporter

@jibbajabba Жыл бұрын

Don't insult him

@Zain-fu9zp Жыл бұрын

@@jibbajabba Whyd you think im insulting him?? f anything I’m complimenting his reporting chops. In all seriousness dudes a gem 💎

@Sodapop-rd5ku Жыл бұрын

@@jibbajabba welcome to the internet Get gud

@druffner Жыл бұрын

@@Zain-fu9zp you're insulting him because reporters are gay

@basedokadaizo Жыл бұрын

@@druffner that's an insult to gay people, we're not *reporters*

@georgeofhamilton 8 ай бұрын

_Heat_ was so efficient in taking inspiration from this incident that the film was released over a year before this robbery even happened.

@mach-1049 7 ай бұрын

Really engaging. I typically would not sit to hear someone ramble on about some heist, but you somehow kept me locked in. You are really, really good at what you do. Great job, man!

@larryminton2670 4 ай бұрын

Your use of props added to the video.

@dancing_odie Жыл бұрын

My grandma was a teller at a bank for like 20-30 years in LA. They got robbed a lot. I can confirm.

@pogostix6097 Жыл бұрын

Your grandma must've had ovaries of steel, because I would have been held up once, had a panic attack, and quit right on the spot. I would not go back thank you lol

@abra4662 Жыл бұрын

@@pogostix6097 Be held up enough and you became a south american

@RoosterFloyd 11 ай бұрын

@@abra4662 A fate worse than death.

@christopherquintero6910 10 ай бұрын

@@RoosterFloyd😂😂

@ginmar8134 10 ай бұрын

I came back from Iraq and went to work security at a bank that had gotten robbed three times in six months. You're so cocky for a while after you've been in battle that you go toe-to-toe with big huge guys and it's a pleasure because they're not suicide bombers. The bank was in a grocery store and it was boring, so you got to be genuinely useful to all the customers, if you bothered to learn all about the store. It was a great feeling having the necessary information to answer all sorts of questions.

@CadeTaylor197 2 жыл бұрын

I believe the anti seizure medicine was Emil’s, he had epilepsy after receiving a serious head injury from a mental patient, he also had brain surgery for said injury

@CadeTaylor197 2 жыл бұрын

THE MAN HIMSELF LIKED MY COMMENT

@Ricekrispy10 2 жыл бұрын

@@CadeTaylor197 Dawg he LOVED your comment

@venamotylek 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Joseph Stalin

@kevaughnramsay9846 2 жыл бұрын

BASED

@CadeTaylor197 2 жыл бұрын

@@Ricekrispy10 haha, even better comrade

@jaclynnix1882 8 ай бұрын

All the little details you share, like about the 60 year old woman calling the police on a “Mad Man,” and the tangent about robbing banks in the 60s, and the helicopter telling the random man to surrender ect ect is so good it makes your videos special

@benj... 3 ай бұрын

"It seems that getting shot in the face highly discouraged Emil from continuing the fight." you don't say lmao

@kingcam4117 11 ай бұрын

imagine being one of the people that were working in a bank and have to explain to 24 different robbers that, "im sorry sir but the first guy got to it all at 7 am you probably should of gotten here at 6:30 or 5 to actually get something out of your trip, the exit is that way sorry for the inconvenience"

@americankid7782 7 ай бұрын

Customer Service for bank Robbers

@van3158 6 ай бұрын

Banks open at 8 here

@jorgesolis9468 6 ай бұрын

Can you imagine 2 or 3 different bank robbers showing up at the same bank

@Tony-mw-533 5 ай бұрын

Wild😂😂😂

@gamerexe7605 5 ай бұрын

Ok but hear me out. That timing of 6:30 as a time stamp AND a part of the joke is absolutely perfect

@TakedaS115 2 жыл бұрын

"And the housekeeper, who was from South America, said he was being a wuss because this happened all the time where she's from." As a Brazilian, I felt that.

@mmelo7832 2 жыл бұрын

O pior é que é verdade kkkk

@see-sharp 2 жыл бұрын

Considerando a nossa situação eu não duvido que tal coisa tenha acontecido.

@rafaelalodio5116 2 жыл бұрын

Novo Cangaço it's a Northern Hollywood shootout every week.

@higgsbonbon 2 жыл бұрын

hue

@TakedaS115 2 жыл бұрын

@@higgsbonbon hue

@katie7390 8 ай бұрын

Wendigoon's 'prop guns" in tandem explaining what went down is not only really funny, but also super informative for the situation

@NaturallyEarth 6 ай бұрын

The quality and depth you explore all the sources in this video is amazing. My favourite video you have made. I love this topic and you do a really great job narrating the events. :)

@paintedhorse6880 8 ай бұрын

For those who don't know, Emil and Larry's strategy of covering each other to move forward to the parking lot is a tactic taught in the US Army. It's called bounding and it's used to either force the enemy to retreat, or to allow riflemen to get close enough to engage and kill the enemy. So, they were using real life Military infantry tactics against the police.

@doopdu1237 8 ай бұрын

So sick of reading comments about how bad their aim was. They were't trying to kill anyone, this was suppressive fire. Army's teach that yes, also Militias... This guy gets it

@SarafinaSummers 8 ай бұрын

I genuinely thought it was called leapfrogging. :-)

@stephenzavatski8016 7 ай бұрын

@@SarafinaSummersterminology varies

@DigitalApex 6 ай бұрын

@@doopdu1237 They even told the hostages to get inside the vault knowing that the entire lobby of the bank was more than likely going to be lit up when half of the LAPD's gunfire.

@itsdabees 5 ай бұрын

I mean, it's not something that is an extraordinary idea. Pretty logical. Almost obvious.

@annoy4nce648 8 ай бұрын

It's crazy to me that multiple documentaries got so many facts wrong, considering that, as you mentioned, it's one of the few bank robberies almost entirely caught on camera.

@JackTheripper911 8 ай бұрын

It's not crazy at all, its called poor journalism. People arent interested in getting the facts correct, they just want to shit out content as quickly as possible to profit off it. Yeah this shootout was caught mostly on camera, but then someone making the documentaries would need to *watch it* and that takes time, time these people dont want to waste in getting correct information, they just wanna vomit their content into the world and let the money roll in. "Good" journalism doesnt exist when those journalists stand to make good money off something.

@WilliamLyons-ym7ee 8 ай бұрын

Almost every historical event you read about is riddled with errors and inaccuracies.

@deltahomicide9300 6 ай бұрын

KZfaq and actual filmmakers are really not that different. Then you have the media just making stuff up. Read the blog he mentioned at the start Bears in the Beehive. Now they did their homework.

@christopherfoster3744 6 ай бұрын

@@WilliamLyons-ym7ee This documentary is just as bad !! 😂

@Eye_Of_Odin978 5 ай бұрын

@@christopherfoster3744 Nah lmao Wendigoon's account is pretty accurate.

@dustinschouest8405 3 ай бұрын

I'm impressed Wend. This was more detailed and better explained than anything else I've seen on North Hollywood. You should look at the 1986 Miami shootout. You could make as good an explanation as Paul Harrell

@Thechessknight 3 ай бұрын

Wendigoon pulling out a rifle really caught me off guard

@Btn1136 Жыл бұрын

My grandma worked at a train station in Chicago in the 40s and 50s and she was robbed 7 times at gun point. She said they were always nice about it and they were almost like special order customers. They were often dressed well but not mob related.

@XXMatt0040XX 11 ай бұрын

I hope it's not rude to have laughed at that... But I did. She had to be hard as fuck to keep working there. Realistically though, that's the best way to rob someone and things would be much better if we just had more polite armed robbers. Jokes aside, it's a very effective strategy, hell it's humane in a way. Killing someone that you're robbing makes no sense; you're just adding a murder charge. D.B. Cooper was described as extremely kind. When asked by his hostage "why?" he told her "It's not that I have a grudge against you or your airline. I just have a grudge." According to her, he kept reassuring her that everything was going to be okay, despite the *bomb* on him. I think that's a large contribution as to why he was the only successful hijacker. He even told the crew (who he had lock themselves in the cockpit) "Have a good day" before he jumped out. He was so polite that he *got the plane grounded and evacuated without them knowing about the hijack. (Edit: While you might assume Stockholm Syndrome, there wasn't enough time, she didn't help him, she was still a *hostage*.) It's fascinating when you think about it, someone can be doing an awful crime while still acting like good people. Maybe being a good person and committing awful crimes aren't mutually exclusive...

@pewpewplasma3793 11 ай бұрын

@@XXMatt0040XXwell, there’s quite a few stories out there of so-called “good” people who do bad things. The thieves with hearts of gold. Of course, stories are just that. Stories. So perhaps tellings of them should be taken with a grain of salt.

@Jhnzo_ 9 ай бұрын

Those numbers would probably be a lot higher now

@viktorbirkeland6520 7 ай бұрын

@@pewpewplasma3793 They should always be taken with a grain of salt. But criminals aren't necessarily bad people, some are just people who haven't figured out how to live law-abiding lives.

@chubbysurprise4429 7 ай бұрын

@@viktorbirkeland6520and laws aren't necessarily good either p.s I agree with you not tryna start anything

@LeiCal69 Жыл бұрын

It's so nice of Wendigoon to have all these airsoft to show us the robber's armory and what went wrong with some of them.

@crispybutters3596 Жыл бұрын

Yeah. Airsoft…..

@peteatkinson3500 Жыл бұрын

Pretty handy to have access to an Airsoft like that! Props!

@vopogon3248 Жыл бұрын

Nice Airsoft for sure.

@basicname1555 Жыл бұрын

He was def not one of them def not...

@HARRAWISH Жыл бұрын

@@vopogon3248 nah bro its just really modified nerf guns trust me

@karinnathompson5836 8 ай бұрын

Being brand new to your channel, this is an excellent breakdown. I remember as a teenager listening on my radio in N Hollywood at school, seeing the helicopters in the air and hearing the gunshots. It was wild.

@bobdmz6437 8 ай бұрын

The Dentist and the Gunstore owner really acting like Video-Game NPCs lol.

@francisjones1409 Жыл бұрын

As someone who knows absolutely nothing about firearms, having the KZfaq appropriate “prop guns” on screen is really interesting and helpful. Wedigoon explains and showcases how firearms work in a way that’s really accessible and interesting, and I honestly really appreciate the in-depth explanations 30:25

@TubboDaKittyCat Жыл бұрын

Unfortunate that my British brothers and sisters still suffer under unjust laws!!! PARALMENT SHUT THE FUCK UP AND GIVE YOUR PEOPLE A CHANCE TP DEFEND THEMSELVES AGAINST THIS SHIT!!! Right to a fun should be in EVERY country!!!

@brianstabile165 Жыл бұрын

It’s not a prop gun I bet he actually owns guns and goes hunting

@KaoticReach1999 Жыл бұрын

@Brian Stabile I think he knows that, it's why he put quotations.

@jakboi6529 Жыл бұрын

He’s from the south 😂

@jamessallt2393 Жыл бұрын

It's...airsoft or something

@vinnisace 2 жыл бұрын

The thing is with the robberies with the notes, my mom used to work at a bank, and she did get robbed like this. She told me that she gave the guy the money because she didnt know if he was armed or not. The dude eventually got caught, but my mom got FIRED for literally DOING HER JOB the way she was trained to. A couple years later the FBI gave her a 'im sorry' letter from that guy while he was in prison. Turns out he was a drug addict, and he got help.

@MyDoggiesABully 2 жыл бұрын

How did your mom react to the letter?

@marcoaureliofernandezreyes1413 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, please, tell us.

@davieboy45123 2 жыл бұрын

I really hope she took legal action towards the bank then!!

@judet2992 2 жыл бұрын

Ah like the pyramid schemes.

@judet2992 2 жыл бұрын

@@davieboy45123 Same

@jeremywhitlock7157 5 ай бұрын

Great video commentary was hilarious. As someone who watched this whole thing go on live with my mom and her boyfriend back then at the age of 15 i remember it like yesterday and think you did a great job covering it especially correcting the documentaries. When I watch those and say that didn't happen people think I'm crazy and how would I know better than the people who made the documentary. So a big thank you for that

@awg9dog 6 ай бұрын

Hey , good going Wendigoon ,. I had just come across your vid and am real impressed with your narrative skills and attention to details. Im aware of most of the details, but you shedd a great view into the affec's of these two clowns. Good job .

@dylankellywashere 2 жыл бұрын

This is legitimately the best break down of the shootout I've ever seen. Your a gun guy and know basic tatics and movements which shows. The common sense approach to why they did certain things and issues with their weapons has always been glossed over besides they were illegally converted. Please do a video on Waco, ruby ridge too but the algorithm might be an issue with it.

@TheB00tyWarrior 2 жыл бұрын

I've seen a few videos on Waco that have now been removed. Curious.

@jthablaidd 2 жыл бұрын

I’d love to go to a range with hkm

@13StJimmy 2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing I’d love to see him cover Waco but he’d have to talk in code like the MLK video 😂

@RejectAllTheFallen 2 жыл бұрын

I concur; bill hicks would be proud as fuck.

@ZorroVulpes 2 жыл бұрын

somehow i feel like if wendigoon covered waco he would "commit suicide" with a sniper rifle fired from a helicopter a mile away

@kujo317 2 жыл бұрын

Wife: "Honey.. where's those bedsheets we were gifted at our wedding?" Husband: "So here's the thing"...

@brinepacer 6 ай бұрын

First time I've seen one of your videos - this was super rad. Glad to see it got the attention you were hoping for.

@jamesadams814 2 ай бұрын

I vividly remember the live coverage of this, despite only being 11 years young. I thought that my dad was watching a bank robbery movie. Little did I know...

@trevorz459 Ай бұрын

I was 11 and thought that 😂

@jamesadams814 Ай бұрын

@@trevorz459 I'm glad I wasn't the only person! 😂

@HellAintHalfFull 2 жыл бұрын

I remember watching this live on TV in '97. I'm still amazed that the only fatalities were the robbers. I remember watching one of the robbers shooting himself. That was insane.

@ichigo.42ga3 2 жыл бұрын

@Zoomer Stasi they said only *fatalities*

@elgringofeo9348 2 жыл бұрын

Damn how you get signal underground?

@Brian2 2 жыл бұрын

My fellow old head! I was looking for anyone that experienced that as well in the comments. It was nuts and the next week drove it home as the news talked about it so much.

@HellAintHalfFull 2 жыл бұрын

@@elgringofeo9348 A distributed antenna system, Gringo.

@elgringofeo9348 2 жыл бұрын

@@HellAintHalfFull nice

@bobrbw Жыл бұрын

This really is like an action movie. It’s thrilling, all filmed, and no one died except for the villains. And the people breaking rank also reminds me of it

@maximesergeef4542 Жыл бұрын

dude what the fuck??!!!

@viderevero1338 Жыл бұрын

Literally looks like a Rdr2 mission.

@mjwbulich Жыл бұрын

These two had 100% seen Heat too many times.

@Arthur-fz5xw Жыл бұрын

@@viderevero1338 looks like Saint Denis heist

@JBlades88WV Жыл бұрын

@@viderevero1338more like GTA

@neckbone3943 7 ай бұрын

Bro, you just now came across my radar with this video. Subscribed and looking forward to getting into your catalog. Awesome

@kevinm8865 2 ай бұрын

Awesome video man. Very good detail and excellent commentary. Thank you.

@Deadeye88 Жыл бұрын

"For KZfaq this is.. airsoft or something" Yeah, Wendigoon knows what's up.

@BSIII Жыл бұрын

Super based

@jamieblack2406 Жыл бұрын

🤦 OMFG, HEY EVERYONE COME AND LOOK AT THIS EXPERT.. QUICK LOOK AT THIS TROLL WANTING ATTENTION.. OVER HERE, CHECK THEN OUT.. There, you got the attention you needed???.. You have no Idea how far from truth you are.. Do so research, you have 2 eyes, 2 ears and only one mouth, so look and listen twice as much then you open your mouth.. It is much better to sit quietly and have people think your a fool, then open your mouth and remove all doubt..

@ObservationofLimits Жыл бұрын

Real Americans can tell by the sound 😜

@sandelsbanken7362 Жыл бұрын

*demonstrates chambering real gun moments later

@hf4229 2 жыл бұрын

I think the fact that wendigoon is a gun guy really makes these videos even more enjoyable, because many channels or media outlets that don't understand firearms or tactics tend to have a hard time explaining certain aspects of situations, or they flat out make shit up when they have no idea what they're talking about. Wendigoon adds a lot to these videos with his knowledge of both tactics and firearms as a whole.

@Adrian-zd4cs 2 жыл бұрын

I agree. I was already subbed before watching this video but it's one of my favorite retelling of this incident!

@nlmbboogz7382 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed!

@BrettManZA80 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah he didn't say "assault weapon" even once 😂

@mylittlebouquet3994 2 жыл бұрын

Ikr?! And when he pulled out bullets for reference I was like “holy sh!t”.

@browning2471 2 жыл бұрын

@@juice6199 maybe the guy just prefers to not curse? Who cares?

@algoner4421 8 ай бұрын

I enjoy your sense of humor and effort. I subbed 👍

@cykool78 4 ай бұрын

dude first time ive come across your content ,i have to say, i really enjoyed the way you told the story and dove into it way more than all the other docs ive seen on this ,,evey time you laughed i did too because that shit was funny, deffinetly subcribing to you ,,,bravo great work dude, im intrestested now to see more of your work, peace out from sunny Cyprus .

@windowzombie 2 жыл бұрын

LA 90s cops go into full on 45 minute shootout with underpowered weapons against full autos, while Uvalde cops with semi auto rifles twiddle their thumbs outside while some sick man kills children. Despicable.

@davidreed6264 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly right

@Big_AlMC 2 жыл бұрын

It was done on purpose. look into it.

@bean3230 2 жыл бұрын

@@Big_AlMC 🤓

@Supremucy 2 жыл бұрын

California cops just built different than Texas cops. Talk means nothing when shit hits the fan.

@wolfbones666 2 жыл бұрын

Some sick boy. Not a man.

@purpleblaze1793 4 ай бұрын

So glad I found this channel! Ty for your content!

@itsmekurm1t 8 ай бұрын

him pulling out the 9mil and 308 and that whole ass HK and AK givin me moistcritical vibes

@crazyeightsize Жыл бұрын

Hey there Wendigoon, you were right the first time. The truck Emil tried to car jack was a 1966-1971 Jeep Gladiator.

@Teknivil Жыл бұрын

LOL

@Genghis-Jon Жыл бұрын

It also didn't have a 'kill switch'. Emil just didnt know how to drive stick.

@jeepdude7359 Жыл бұрын

👍

@panheadbob2926 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for posting your comment. Now I don't need to. Jeep trucks were cool old rigs.

@fernikinss Жыл бұрын

jeep commanche not gladiator !

@jowar9958 Жыл бұрын

My dad was one of the cameramen in the helicopters, the police gave them bullet proof vests but they sat on them instead of actually wearing them because of where the bullets would be coming up from

@erichughes284 Жыл бұрын

Like we did in Nam.

@Ratedcrackshot Жыл бұрын

My dad was one of the bullets that was fired

@anonymousrd8882 Жыл бұрын

@@Ratedcrackshot my dad was a tire that got blown with the bullets that where fired

@Heccct Жыл бұрын

My dad was one of the bulletproof vests yours sat on.

@williamwright1281 Жыл бұрын

@@erichughes284 I was just scrolling through these comments to see if anybody would mention what you just did for that simple fact

@nobody.important971 8 ай бұрын

Imagine getting robbed so often than end up being acquainted with the robber. Just one morning you get robbed and are like "morning Joe" "Morning Larry, could you put the money in bag, but neatly stacked this time" "So joe, how's the wife doing"

@ThePunisherTN 7 ай бұрын

Great coverage and haven't seen some of that footage since a kid!

@cass_the_weirdo 2 жыл бұрын

This makes me want this to be a series chronicling some the most bizarre, funny or plain stupid crimes even done just to break up the creepy and unsettling shit on the channel

@mallow_ 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@MWM499 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@androrobuiques9497 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@Benster5126 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@justleo2956 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@Moon_Child_Mari 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve gotta say. I’m not particularly interested in guns, but I thought you tying your knowledge into this case was super interesting and I feel like I genuinely learned a lot from your perspective! I’d be totally down to hear you cover more cases like this!

@Keirnoth 2 жыл бұрын

It's important you learn about them, especially if you're from the US. Many countries don't have anything like the Second Amendment. It'll keep you from sounding like you're not informed on this issue when you are demanding gun control to stop people from getting an "Assault Rifle 15" and "Assault Weapons".

@stripmin41 5 ай бұрын

Seen many documentaries on this shootout you did a great job explaining it without using just the footage.

@apodis4900 5 ай бұрын

Awesome video. I searched for ‘the bank shootout from Heat’, and your video was recommended. I don’t know if that tells you anything re: KZfaq etc. Fantastic video man, couldn’t stop watching if I wanted to, very interesting, thanks.❤ subbed.

@jerricaweatherall8604 2 жыл бұрын

As someone who’s been robbed at gunpoint at my bank job back in 2019, I found this both extremely interesting and oddly comforting. I’ve always felt weird mentioning or even reminding people I was robbed at my job, so it’s nice to remember I’m not alone - unfortunately the bank robbery I was caught in was a takeover style and honestly was just…quite an experience.

@Mister_Clean 2 жыл бұрын

My mom had some interesting stories from her time as a banker. She got the classic "guy in a baseball cap calmly pushing a note over the counter" experience. Can't imagine a movie-style takeover. Sounds like a wild ride.

@nevadascaredme7436 2 жыл бұрын

We're all glad you are okay after that incident

@Keirnoth 2 жыл бұрын

It still baffles me why tellers aren't provided gun training and aren't armed.

@theblackcatgirl7013 2 жыл бұрын

I'm so sorry you had to go through that Are you in therapy if that isn't tmi

@theblackcatgirl7013 2 жыл бұрын

@@Keirnoth you know what that's a good question

@captainantilles6713 2 жыл бұрын

I like how this video implies that whenever wendigoon is making these he just has several guns lying right next to him

@lukesites2457 2 жыл бұрын

Wendi(goon)

@coledibiase5971 2 жыл бұрын

As anyone always should.

@cralo2569 2 жыл бұрын

and during the conspirancy theory iceberg, multiple diagrams and secret books to aid in his explaining

@toxiccorgi2108 2 жыл бұрын

He's very in depth on his research. I believe he actually encountered alternates in person for research on the Mandela catalog.

@dennisonthelens7562 2 жыл бұрын

@@coledibiase5971 nah, only Americans

@xposa2781 3 ай бұрын

Brah, your commitment to research for this video is exemplary, well done.

@Crustydodo 7 ай бұрын

This video was the first ever video I watched from wendigoon and it’s still my favourite thanks wendigoon for the addiction

@michipantin6343 Жыл бұрын

As a latina, I can confirm that the housekeeper wanting to casually go home in the middle of a gunfight while also calling her boss chicken is the most on brand thing ever

@InvaderGIR98 Жыл бұрын

I'm dying. You killed me

@TAD-LOW Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@grangesaves33 Жыл бұрын

Yup. I'm pretty sure my grandma could have easily eliminated them armed only with her shoe and a wooden spoon

@watonemillion Жыл бұрын

wtf are you talking about

@mmmapplesauce1673 Жыл бұрын

Latinx*

@AnvilPro100 2 жыл бұрын

I've always wondered why bank robbery has such a high sentencing no matter how little violence there is, but now I know it's because if you were a bank teller in LA in 1992 alone you were held at gun point at least 5 times

@ExeErdna 2 жыл бұрын

They were wild in the 90s. If that type a fervor happened with crime now it'll be recorded with a Go-Pro live on Twitch...

@herrschmidt5477 2 жыл бұрын

nah it's all over the world like that: You don't steal from the rich and powerful. Even in Germany we got a quite high death toll on bank robberies compared to other crimes even if it's just about silly money and no one really got hurt.

@westernwarden8758 2 жыл бұрын

of course Jailbot from superjail is commenting on this video!

@ultraviolettas 2 жыл бұрын

should have happened after the 70s lmao

@crimsonking440 8 ай бұрын

Having a gun pointed at you only seems non-violent until you have it happen to you.

@rockroll7649 4 ай бұрын

Lots of good research, dude. You've clearly put in the time for your video. Good stuff.

@cognito941 5 ай бұрын

Amazing job on this !

@themetalone7739 2 жыл бұрын

I would bet $10,000 that the phrase "let him bleed out" was uttered by police during the time when medical aid should have been given.

@carstontoedter1333 2 жыл бұрын

"hey let's not approach the dude who spent the last half hour trying to turn us into swiss cheese to give him useless superficial medical attention and will probably try to kill us anyway". Legitimately a good tactical decision, if you want medical assistance from the cops don't larp as war machine.

@wyattblackwood3927 2 жыл бұрын

No doubt about it. I'm cool with that.

@treyway6301 2 жыл бұрын

@@wyattblackwood3927 same

@thelonelypilot Жыл бұрын

@@wyattblackwood3927 I'm not. Police should not able to decide who lives or dies, only the courts and God.

@thelonelypilot Жыл бұрын

@@wyattblackwood3927 lmao.

@herecomesaregular8418 2 жыл бұрын

The thing about phenobarbital is that you're not going to feel "intoxicated" in the way that a lot of the other sources might have imagined. You're just going to feel exceedingly calm (bordering on lethargic if you don't have enough stimuli to occupy your senses), and you're also not going to exhibit what you might call reasonable risk-aversion. Basically even with their plan falling apart and finding themselves surrounded, they probably met their end with something akin to indifference. Like a lot of anti-seizure meds, phenobarbital was also widely used to treat people with panic attacks and PTSD.

@ryohio4706 2 жыл бұрын

I've taken phenobarbital before, in the form of a migraine medication, and it really does just feel like it calms your nerves in a mild way, similar to a weak anxiety medication.

@lakeside1168 Жыл бұрын

"Shit its whatever man, good run" BANG -Larry no cap

@dollarcostbackpacker1226 Жыл бұрын

Wonder how many mercs know this trick.

@DogeickBateman Жыл бұрын

@@lakeside1168 "Oh man cops just shot me in the head." -Emil said, calmly

@meepy546 Жыл бұрын

@@DogeickBateman "Damn bro GGs" -Emil as hes laying on the ground dying

@emilyg927 6 ай бұрын

Wendi, love your videos! You should do one on Scott Scurlock, the Hollywood Bandit if you like bank robbery stories

@MsAhmebah2000 20 күн бұрын

Thank you for rundown. I watched this live years ago but didnt get much backstory until now.

@OPCr1s1s 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve seen videos covering this shoot-out in the past, but never have I personally seen anyone talk about all of the strange events after the gun fight. Thank you for all of your effort. Super interesting and entertaining, as always.

@Dysxnix 2 жыл бұрын

Clicked so fast, I'm so ready. Just got done binging your 3 part series on The Divine Comedy and your analysis of it has kind of changed me in a way. I don't know how to explain it but the way you convey the message really resonated with me and helped me improve. Thank you.

@javierisbad4810 2 жыл бұрын

me too man

@v4603 2 жыл бұрын

I just did the exact same thing and it also had an impact on me. I was on the phone telling someone about it for an hour earlier haha

@lukenichols4641 2 жыл бұрын

His first video made me want to read the entire Comedy.. and his videos helped tremendously

@jaburnside1523 2 жыл бұрын

I did the same thing let’s go!!

@micromanagedmarbles 2 жыл бұрын

yess!! same

@AtZ-2424 3 ай бұрын

Honestly wanted to say that this video was very enjoyable! And I do genuinely appreciate the time and effort you put in to put it together

@THATBLUEBLAZER 3 ай бұрын

It’s the most surreal feeling when I’m watching a video and then I hear “Raycon” because I use them as headphones for everything I own that has a bluetooth connection.

@Pog_Of_Greed 2 жыл бұрын

I Died laughing when Wendigoon pulled out the strap. he"s like the bob ross of conspiracy theory.

@lostloser519 2 жыл бұрын

I can't even imagine how many government watch lists Wendigoon must be on because of his search history lol. Keep up the great work sir, but be careful as you can.

@backwoodsjunkie08 2 жыл бұрын

I'm sure they see his KZfaq channel and then understand why it's in his search list. He probably also uses a vpn

@og8263 2 жыл бұрын

lets not pretend hes in danger or something thats just cringe

@youtubeuser84848 2 жыл бұрын

pretty cringe

@Roblox_Jesus 2 жыл бұрын

@@backwoodsjunkie08 You have no idea what a vpn does lol

@yourlocalcryptid9553 2 жыл бұрын

Yes. Every day an FBI agent rolls out of bed, grabs his gun, and then scrolls through Wendigoon's channel to see if he uploaded today and got to close to the truth. When the agent sees nothing here he just sets his gun down and mutters "Not today... not today."

@fernandoperez1 3 ай бұрын

I remember when this happened I woke up late that day turned the TV on and It was in all the channels I watched it live.... I will never forget so crazy

@mangore623 2 ай бұрын

Really first-rate commentary and insight into the history of this event.

@kran_-px3vo 2 жыл бұрын

You giggling like a schoolgirl at bank robbery statistics is so oddly hilarious and part of the reason I love this channel so much

@getchaloot2097 2 жыл бұрын

"giggling like a schoolgirl" don't say that, it's weird.

@dam2k16 2 жыл бұрын

@@getchaloot2097 It’s a common expression.

@alexafelix2877 2 жыл бұрын

I started laughing too and was like Wait - Hahahahaha

@toxiccorgi2108 2 жыл бұрын

It's oddly funny learning how fast the world can turn into real life grand theft auto with robberies happening multiple times a day in a single city.

@hewhohasnoidentity4377 2 жыл бұрын

@@toxiccorgi2108 And this was years before grand theft auto or even Doom was a thing.

@LexYeen 2 жыл бұрын

Dude, _please_ do more coverage of historical events. You're great at it. Edit: 47:00 Speaking as a Californian? That's the LAPD at their finest, no surprise here.

@theguystealingyourinternet3712 2 жыл бұрын

LAPD was like: "shit we haven't sufficiently abused our power today, oooh look an elderly couple!"

@thequeenofcringe1585 2 жыл бұрын

@@theguystealingyourinternet3712 cops do have a lot of experience in abusing people

@fleebogazeezig6642 2 жыл бұрын

He should do a video on the 1986 Miami-dade shootout, it was another important shootout in the history of law enforcement as it led to the phasing out of revolvers in favor of semi-auto handguns

@ThatSpecificIndividual 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly I thought how the police in Die Hard acted was inaccurate because how incompetent they were, turn out it VERY accurate.

@doorsareforopening 7 ай бұрын

38:51 "Larry was in no condition to drive at that moment" lol

@Losochill 6 ай бұрын

Man I love this channel!!

@socwyvern9745 2 жыл бұрын

The bank robber was lucky in the sense that: he’s drum mag even fed, back then they were notoriously horribly at jamming, and that his dissipator AR-15 was able to shoot properly. The dissipator is the most unreliable version of a 16” barrel because the gas port can’t get enough gas down it to function 99% of the time. Bro literally picked the WORST rifle with the WORST possible mag choice and lucked the hell out with almost zero malfunctions. His luck was so good he should’ve just gone and played the lottery, won, and avoid the shootout.

@djmateo7134 2 жыл бұрын

Dude found the only reliable beta mag on the planet

@austinknowlton1783 2 жыл бұрын

I did like your comment because in general I agree but I would like to point out that his was built by Bushmaster. In the 90's they were the gold standard.

@socwyvern9745 2 жыл бұрын

@@austinknowlton1783 yeah but then he cut the barrel from 20” to 16” which is what causes the issue. The dissipator sold by bushmaster had a low profile gas lock under the handguard and was a faux dissipator. The rifle used didn’t have that. I’ve got one of those bushmaster uppers and it’s an absolute beast, I just wouldn’t make it less reliable.

@Summersevedouche 2 жыл бұрын

I thought the same thing these guys obviously have tan plenty of ammo through their gear to know it’ll work

@wyattblackwood3927 2 жыл бұрын

Well considering they were using AK-47s, not AR-15s

@jackyflowers7159 2 жыл бұрын

I saw the movie Heat with a friend and he thought the shoot-out scene was too unrealistic. I was like what is so unrealistic about heavily armed robbers robbing a bank! He responded that that could never happen in real life! Anyway, about 1 year later this shoot-out occurred, and yes I rubbed it in his face all day and told everyone what he had said too.

@hotmess9640 2 жыл бұрын

😂

@Gyrfalcon312 2 жыл бұрын

Life always finds a way... to trump art.

@mdragarg 2 жыл бұрын

>told everyone what he said too Oh no you didn't

@mmorehouse2094 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah this definitely happened

@TwoGraves284 2 жыл бұрын

this scene is actually the most realistic gunfight scene is any movie ever, so its incredibly wrong

@itzvbnz 5 ай бұрын

the way i put this video on so i could sleep but i got completely into the story💀i don’t know how i’ll sleep tonight😂

@chrisd4749 4 ай бұрын

Thank you Brandon for this absolutely wonderful gift to us

@bailey9750 8 ай бұрын

This happened down the street from us and was the bank my grandma used. Bank robberies really were so common that even after this, she was annoyed at not being able to go that day. I remember being too young to understand why the bank suddenly had tons of bulletproof glass installed inside, and still to this day is decked out more than a lot of other banks in the area.

@thevelbaetum4118 2 жыл бұрын

Wendigoon laughing his ass off about the absurd amount of robberies made my day

@katelynnance1916 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely, first time I saw that part I laughed so hard my boyfriend told me to bring it down a notch. I love 'goon's goofiness in his videos. It's fun.

@RantVideoPhone 6 ай бұрын

I'm from Northern California and I remember driving into Southern California the day this happeed. As we were driving down the highway, we saw multiple helicopters overlooking the scene. We had no idea what was happening and only learned about it later. ("The Ventures" at the House of Blues were GREAT! 🎸)

@masonrouthier7764 8 ай бұрын

Just found your channel a couple weeks ago. I think i had heard of you before though. I think from a couple creepypastas that you may have written and/or did voice work in. Which is kinda cool to put a face to the name. Not sure if you are the same wendigoon or not? Lol i do remember it being one of my favorite creepypastas that id heard. Anyways. Good work on this story. As well on the yuba 5. Which is the 1st vid i saw on your channel. Will definitely be checking out the rest of your content!

@PK.NOiR.7 Ай бұрын

Same guy! He's awesome.

@manofteal79 2 жыл бұрын

This video is really a testament to how passionate Wendigoon is about his content... Risking his own money just to share the stuff he's passionate about - I respect this man a lot.

@steviegoodgravy8624 2 жыл бұрын

Weird how Dankula covered this last week..

@Skaatje 2 жыл бұрын

He is not "risking his money". He just might not make any money on this video.

@demi4156 2 жыл бұрын

You can say that about literally anyone in this realm of KZfaq content tho. Plus it's sponsored so he's not losing anything.

@MrSpiffy 2 жыл бұрын

While the other repliers here have a... Interesting take. And sure he isn't "losing" money just the potential to not gain it from monetization. But, I agree with you. I respect this man for his passion.

@fatbus0596 2 жыл бұрын

@@MrSpiffy agreed, Idk why everyone here just went straight to complaining and fact checking lol. Mad respect for our Dad

@TheMasterMI6 2 жыл бұрын

Please do more content like this, I've never been one for "True Crime" genre stuff but your covering of shootouts is so engaging and straight to the point, that I too think this is absolutely my favourite niche as well. As someone who's also a nerd about guns, I'd love to see more content about guns too from you. I don't know what type of content you could do, but I'm absolutely here for it!!!

@WormOfEscence 2 жыл бұрын

Yes!

@JOSWAY787 2 жыл бұрын

Weirdo

@spooky3406 2 жыл бұрын

@@JOSWAY787 🤓

@ashleyshim2078 2 жыл бұрын

😕😕😕😮Yikes

@WormOfEscence 2 жыл бұрын

@@ashleyshim2078 shut

@zaqzilla1 4 ай бұрын

I always learn things from Wendigoon's videos. Like how being shot in the face is a big deal.

@stonewirz2581 3 ай бұрын

Love your laughing! Oh and your vids too =)

@j-gnat1275 2 жыл бұрын

I would love to see more breakdowns of shootouts. You’re right, it’s not really covered in the true crime community, and it is fascinating.

@shadycatz85 2 жыл бұрын

i think the risk is adding to the glamorisation of it, and it going the way of mass shootings, where it increases due to desire for infamy and notoriety. so, one has to be very careful with how they go about it. this one works because no one died, the shooters are dead, no money got stolen, and it is now virtually impossible to do what they did due to introduced methods of policing and robbery prevention (as well as identification methods).

@remtanic2617 2 жыл бұрын

@@shadycatz85 To be honest covering murders runs the same risk.

@RedFourth 2 жыл бұрын

I agree, but at the same time it is still educational for a full breakdown of how these tragic events played out since a sanitized shortened version of events can lead to misunderstandings

@sofialima4521 2 жыл бұрын

@@shadycatz85 I think it's the way one can tell the story that makes a difference. Like, let's not say they were "mad evil geniuses" and I think we're good.

@AD-ui6sk 2 жыл бұрын

Look up the “Donut Operator” ex cop with a chill personality and his main thing is reviewing shootings he actually did one for this incident too

@ReaperSolo 2 жыл бұрын

First, appreciate the “air soft” examples that made it very easy to understand what had happened, and second you were correct, that is in fact a Jeep pickup

@billymanilli Жыл бұрын

Yup! 1963 Cherokee 👍

@foxy126pl6 Жыл бұрын

@@billymanilli pretty sure thats a gladiator though

@billymanilli Жыл бұрын

@@foxy126pl6 Can't argue with ya there! lol dunno why I typed Cherokee... must've been one of those "4am comments" 🥱🙃

@threatassessment606 Жыл бұрын

It's a jeep thing. You wouldn't understand