Did you know? Wenduag is voiced by Amelia Tyler, who played Nyrissa in Kingmaker.

I know she's a baddie and all, but Wenduag activated all of my 'I can fix her' instincts.

Her romance is really wholesome considering how she is

Lann: calls Wenduag a traitor and monster My CN trickster halfling bard: step away from my waifu!

Why, oh why, no one talk about how good Pathfinder VA actually is? You can SEE her emotions through voice only, damn it!

i absolutely love how the romance with her goes from 0 to 100 really fucking quick

Romancing her as a good character (for example an Aasimar Paladin who went Angel Path, yes I know, very on the nose ^^) is kinda weird, considering that you have to let her get away with murder a couple of times. *However* I also think that would be an interesting story. Imagine someone who tries to uphold good and law, yet they are hard pressed to do so when the one they love does bad things and one thing has to be chosen. Either you potentially destroy what you have but adher to what should be, or you choose love and hope that you can make her better, but with the weight of your selfish decision looming over you.

She changed my mind about Spider Kitties.

Holy shit, I just had that scene after Savamalekh fight and I think it was the tipping point that finally dethroned Planescape Torment as the no. 1 RPG of all time for me.

Hi, sorry if I comment late. To make the romance of Wenduag, you need just the one shown in the video or you necessarily need to have: In act 3 1) forced her to kneel before you in front of all the mongrelman 2) discovering the truth about Dyra's death In act 4 Having spied on her conversation with Savamelekh and having made her understand with the dialogues that she shouldn't betray me

Came back just to listen to Amelia Tyler’s voice, god she’s such a great VA

It is a quite lovely romance, to be honest! Thank you for sharing it in the video, I cannot bring myself to ditch Lann anyway so I would have never seen this otherwise PX

YOU'RE GOING TO PAY FOR YOUR INSOLENCE, SILLY LITTLE CAT!!

Wenduag is one of the best compaions in any game for me. She's just so... real. No sudden changes on the spot. Makes mistakes but strives to learn from them. Knows better then to deal with sympathy, wallowing or moral high grounds. When I look at Wenduag I don't see a "freak". I see someone that is better then the average person that gets consumed with fear and pushes away. I would even say the later is far worse then any confrontational dark act. People that look down on others just for existing, they create and make the monsters. Like, say, Darth Vader. Jedi had a "right/should" attitude. Anakin didn't feel like he had a place. etc. Wenduag's story is pretty similar to that. She lost her tribe, she killed her own farther (not knowing during the fight). She broke, she was sent over the edge. Went through hate, pain, suffering. Perhaps apathy too. The reason Wenduag knows how to be strong is because she's been weak. If you've never been weak then you've never been strong. Wendaug's farther was a good addition. Which further gets combined with how Sul shows concern for Wenduag (and vice versa). Which further leads to Wenduag confiding in the player. She puts on a show of being strong but knows when she needs to turn to others after admitting she's been a bitch. The repsonsability makes her even more likeable because she knows full well what she does and states as such. They really wanted to go all out with the character here. I knew she was going to be an interesting companion but I didn't think she'd have this much detail. There's also other more subtle things I pick up on others might miss. Like how she understands it's important to face and confront pain and fear and not avoid it (she wants to feel. The worst as well as the best. It's made clear in chapter 4). Simply put, avoidence of conflict breeds more conflict. Same is said for pain. Escapism is the path of self destruction (what's more, that of others). There's no control there. If you try to "avoid" it then it will circle back and linger. Instead Wenduag faces it at the source as soon as she can. Wenduag makes it about "power". Is under the imperssion no one else can understand unless someone suffers "exactly" like her. Thing is people have done so. And it didn't need a stinger. hate, fear, pain, apathy. The only thing that could have made this even better was having conversations like that. Of how "love" is so often spoke of carelessly with sunshine and rainbows when in reality it's got a darker side. Honor too can have its uses under the right conditions (kingdom come delivance states a good case about it at the end). It's also not about what people "deserve" or "earn". At the same time she's ingonrant about kindness so it makes sense she'd think along those lines. In truth Wenduag acts out of fear. A fear of being weak. A fear of not being understood. A fear of not being useful or of failing to protect what's important to her. She turns it into anger and uses it as fuel to drive her. beats wallowing. "Strength" is not a stinger, or an item, or a magic sword. It does not come from others, unless others are an inspiration for you. One does have to break and be weak to know strength. Wenduag knows that much. What she doesn't seem to understand is that others can already understand the situation she's in. Without the sympathy. One could say she's found it at the end and is learning to adjust. I'm also glad they didn't "goody two shoes" her. Or just make her "evil just because". There is an appeal to the darker side of things. And what people see as "good" or "nice" can cause so much harm, damage danger and destruction (people aren't as "nice" as they pretend to be). Overall, out lash killings aside (which is mainly because of people judging her as "wrong to exist"), Wenduag is pretty well rounded. Furthermore she knows to explain a situation clearly regardless of how she feels about the other person. This is more clear when she faces Lann (both times). Why is this important? Simple really. Awareness factor. Both eyes open. She might be a liar, but at the same time she's one of the most honest people there is when it's clear the situation is that important (explaining things to Lann when meeting him again is a great touch). Awareness leads to honesty. Honesty leads to trust. Cut out the judgement and sympathy and you'll go further with her. She'll gut you if you dare to cross her. But she'll warm up to you if you show you have a brain even if she degrades you and hates your guts. She didn't really want to kill Lann (regardless of wherever she does or doesn't). The struggle and inner conflict makes her seem more relatable. This is where a compainon like Camilla drops the ball. Who can not be talked out of murder no matter what you do. Wenduag is more "grey" while Camilla is simply "black and white". The lack of interactions with Camilla on a whole also don't help. We see much more of Wenduag. So the difference between the characters and which got more attention to detail is pretty clear. I was actually hoping Arueshalae would be the depraved compaion that struggles with the middle ground. Since she was too... "nice" she just comes across as naive (and this is coming from somoene that went with the desna mythic). Wenduag on the other hand SHOWS she struggles instead of just saying it. She's never once shown that she's a coward that flees from her problems (showing how "strong" she is even if she struggles. Basically Wenduag will always face her fears/you). She also states "What. Where. Why." Presents good, solid valid reasons for what she does. While also displaying that she can question herself when she's not certain. Wenduag is also concerned about "fitting in", but I learned not to think along such foolish lines. Even humans see other humans as "freaks". Better to focus on individuals. Generalizing leads to assumptions. Wenduag seems to understand this, even early on. She also caught on with Ember right away, showing how observent she is. People that know pain and how to overcome it understand. Keep in mind Ember isn't as stupid or naive as she might appear to be. Seriously, Ember gains the favor and protection of Nocturnal. Both are seen as freaks but for different reasons. People tend to fear what they don't understand. This is important to take note of because the two characters are designed intended and meant to be misunderstood. Underestimate them, assume, insult and compare to others (like "children" or "freaks") and you'll look like an idiot when you finally understand them. Both have brains. Both know what they're doing. Neither is an idiot. One makes it more clear then the other however. I find both Wenduag and Ember interesting, but I'm not sure if Ember understands "wanting" pain like Wenduag does. If Ember does understand that then she doesn't show it. But then she rarely "proves" herself or feels the need too (misunderstanding her doesn't mean you're right about her). What's clear enough however is that Wenduag knows there's more to Ember then meets the eye right away. I paied attention to that. Despite priviously stabbing me in the back I knew to trust Wenduag's judgement on the matter. If Wenduag is concerned after events facing demons then that's to be taken note of. Looking death in the eye is likely what drew her attention. Showing how brave Ember is. Would have been nice to have had more going on between them then a few comments when camping. Which are good moments. Unfortunately Wenduag doesn't say much in Ember's quest lines. Still, if Ember can have the stones to challenge Nocturnal herself and gain them as a protector (even if breifly for a compaion quest) then it proves Wenduag is correct in her observation. As impressive as Ember's feats are at times Wenduag is the one that notices when others fail too. In short she's pretty damn observant. What these two characters have in common is that they state the "obvious". They say what they think. Both understand it can be overlooked quite easily (and too often is even in real life). Both are very different people and yet also have much in common. Neither are cowards or back turners. Both make it about "acceptance" and won't push away. for that would be weakness. This brings me to Arueshalae who only tried to "forget" her past, which is why it caught up with her (I honestly find her "good" approch... flawed. Not enough struggling/conflict/both sides of the coin instead of just one). The companions in this game contrast each other pretty well for the most part. Each has their own flaws and concerns to be addressed. Arueshalae changed too quickly and there was no "the darker side has a point at times" or "The light can be dangious and why". We don't get those conversations with her. We do with Wenduag. In short, Wenduag is someone that can challenge the player with the player challenging back. We get to "excahnge" viewpoints and it makes more sense with Wenduag when we find the middle ground. The reasons are made clear. That's why I don't much care for Arueshalae. Because we're basically going "I agree unless I'm uncaring". That is too black and white. Wenduag on the other hand makes the player work for it. You actually have to think, consider and try to understand her. More then any other companion. This is why it feels more rewading with her. I can't compare her to Lann because I don't pick Lann (nor am I far enough in act 5 to have both yet. Having to restart actually). They see something in each other though. it's like they're "mirrors" that refect each other. At least that's what I gather from the confrontations between them. Both of them can see the other has a point when challenged as well. Both by the player and with each other. This is RPG dialogue at it's best. They also got the voice acting done well in those key moments too. Things like this is what makes up for the games flaws. Still hate the timed quests in the "army" phases though.

truly wholesome and you become a king....I hope commander meets the baron one day.

Holy shit this is actually the best romance

I had a few more voicelines during the poisoning scene wonder if they added those in

Wow who knew the spider kitty was going to have the best romance

This is so weird, I did practically everything to the letter, and at the "I love you part" she answered with - "Oh, I don't need to tell these words back, they're so embarassing", but still offered the poison and the rest of the dialogue was the same. Are there also notable changes to the "Let's fool together" part with the true romance? The sex seemed to have stayed the same for me.

Nice romance videos. Can you also do one for the secret demon romance?

i goofed up. The bar scene never happened for me. Now I have to search for an old save. Might have lost 20 gaming hours with that

I'm so so so pissed because I couldn't talk to her at Threshold because I was a gold dragon and revived Terendelev who JUST SO HAPPENS to stand right where Wendy is. And she's too big for me to talk to her. I'm going insane.

How can you start it? I don't have the dialog option..

She is so beautiful.

Does this do the path where you change her aliment or the one where she stays the same aliment

Thanks for the upload! I think this might be the longest romance?

The "good" evil romance. In all honesty this is pretty good if you want to play an evil char but don't want a literal psycho around you. Edit: also it's as wholesome as it gets from someone as selfish as her. I honestly finc it pretty ok.

Wenduag best gurl

Wenduag is a nymphomaniac, I swear. XD

Damn my fortitude sucks even with all the bonuses I used

Huh, how come she didn't wanna talk when I went to neatholme with her?

WHY IS THE MURDER SPIDER A TSUNDERE

04:04 oh look, the same dialogue like Morrigan in DA:O

Oh look, she founded the pathfinder version of the Githyanki

Is it necessary to kill Valeksia?

I NEED TO KNOW HER ROMANCE ASCENSION!

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hcyegtt2vNq0eZ8.html Mmmh, I didn't get this dialogue from that footage. As well as all those which follow during the 2 minutes which follow. Yet I did what was necessary to have it. Strange.

Best girl

Spider wife for life!

Since I generally play Neutral/Lawful Good characters, I always end up having to kill her. :(

Yesssss Best girl

playing on june 2022, the option changes on min 15:00 Instead, I have the following options: 1.Where did you go? 2.I dont doubt your loyalty. But Alushinyrra is full of temptations - there are plenty of people who 3.would reward you betraying me. But do you know why I dont worry? 4.[attack] I know you met with Savamelekh! 5.(Evil) Next time ill take a finger for every day that youre unaccounted for. Got it? 6.We all need to have fun sometimes. Lets just forget this and move on. option 1 just has her go into a more detailed lie about her bender and then returns to the other options, option 2 has her asking you nervously why and then gives a new menu: 1.(Lawfull) Because you know that if you betray me, I will make you pay for it in blood 2.(chaotic) Because I know that, when it comes down to it, people only care about themselves. im prepared for any of my companions to betray me. 3.(Evil) No matter whos been trying to turn you against me, betraying them instaed of me will benefit you much more 4.if you dont know, im not going to tell you. credit (reddit user): high-tect-potato

Ok minus all the killing why does this represent a dom sub relationship in a pretty good way

Huh, even if it’s no Camellia, this romance still exudes evil vibes.

"Poison yourself so I can feel closer to you." No thanks I think I'll do someone else's romance.

lol she gets right to the point

this is by far the best we have in this game imo. Which says enough about the other ones smh

Ok, now i know who i will use to sucrifice for a lich path

Im on my first playthrough and everything was going fine but at the start of Act 4 when I talked with her in the Nexus, she went "everyone has noticed you don't care about me anymore, lets break up" or something and I couldnt even answer, I just got friendzoned out of nowhere lmao what. Also, I never got the tavern scene in act 3, altho I did everything correctly up to that point.. Time to bang Camellia, I guess.

It is the equivilance to boning your dog. Kind of gross ._.

This is a certified Lann moment.