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Andrew Neiman (Miles Teller) is an ambitious young jazz drummer, in pursuit of rising to the top of his elite music conservatory. Terence Fletcher (J.K. Simmons), an instructor known for his terrifying teaching methods, discovers Andrew and transfers the aspiring drummer into the top jazz ensemble, forever changing the young man's life. But Andrew's passion to achieve perfection quickly spirals into obsession, as his ruthless teacher pushes him to the brink of his ability and his sanity.
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@BaddMedicine
@BaddMedicine 6 ай бұрын
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@austinpena5605
@austinpena5605 6 ай бұрын
I'm sorry, did Oak just say they haven't seen The Godfather?
@BaddMedicine
@BaddMedicine 6 ай бұрын
@@austinpena5605 some of us haven't 🤙
@GaneshPalraj1991
@GaneshPalraj1991 6 ай бұрын
@@BaddMedicine Now you have to do ' The Godfather'.
@ny8956
@ny8956 6 ай бұрын
About his scars. Miles teller was a passenger in a pretty bad car accident when he was 20. The scars on his face and neck are a result of that.
@voshmek4986
@voshmek4986 6 ай бұрын
just like you guys, I went to watch this movie, without knowing anything about it, and was honestly pleasently surprised, especially at the grand finale :D it was awesome :D
@cazadorcrazy9194
@cazadorcrazy9194 6 ай бұрын
Whiplash is a fantastic example of a moment where the climax in a film is the last scene.
@denisel1553
@denisel1553 6 ай бұрын
Part of what makes this story so unique is that both the protagonist AND the antagonist get what they want in the end. It speaks to the nature of abusive relationships, and losing your humanity/self in the pursuit of perfection.
@lonerebeI
@lonerebeI 6 ай бұрын
I don't think Andrew lost himself in the end. He still had a great relationship with his dad, and was still a good person. He did lose the girl he was interested in though
@p1-leo514
@p1-leo514 6 ай бұрын
​@@lonerebeI Sean Casey also had his family and he hanged himself.
@lonerebeI
@lonerebeI 6 ай бұрын
@@p1-leo514 We don't know if Sean Casey had a good support system. Soooo
@TrackpadProductions
@TrackpadProductions 6 ай бұрын
_"Jim watches Andrew -- crazed, exhausted, looks like he’s pushing himself past what is safe -- and knows there is no longer anything he can do about it._ *_He has lost."_* -Whiplash screenplay, pg. 103 Andrew might have gotten what he wanted, but he definitely didn't win. Jim wasn't looking like that because he realized how talented Andrew is; he was looking like that because he knew he was going to become another Casey.
@lonerebeI
@lonerebeI 6 ай бұрын
@@p1-leo514 We don't know if Sean Casey had a support system in his life, that wasn't mentioned in the movie.
@heddadybvadskog-nebb5603
@heddadybvadskog-nebb5603 6 ай бұрын
Miles Teller's scars are real. He was in a car accident in college. According to himself his friend was driving at 80 mph and lost control, the car flipped 8 times and went across 3 lanes. Miles was flung out of the window and landed 50 ft away from the car. He lost consciousness and was covered in blood from rocks and glass hitting his face, which left the scarring. Thankfully only his face was properly injured. He has done some laser treatment on the scars which might be why they are less visible today- but he still has 2 pieces of rocks imbedded under his skin.
@SonicMegaKing
@SonicMegaKing 6 ай бұрын
Isn't that unhealthy? Shouldn't those be removed?
@jenloveshorror
@jenloveshorror 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the details. That's sounds intense. Don't wanna offend anyone, but imo God was watching over him that day & hopefully he has realized how blessed to be alive.
@heddadybvadskog-nebb5603
@heddadybvadskog-nebb5603 6 ай бұрын
@SonicMegaKing nah its pretty safe. Doctors may decide to leave pieces of debris in a patient such as pebbles, small glass fragments or even bullet fragments if a) they wont cause any futher harm to the patient or b) removing them could cause more harm than leaving them. So in Miles' case I believe he has said that the doctors left them there because removing them would be difficult and cause futher, unnecessary scarring- and since they werent at risk of harming him they just let them be. Similarly, after being shot in 2000, 50 Cent got a bullet fragment lodged into his tongue. Doctors decided to leave it there out of fear removing it might cause a life lasting speech impediment and ruin his taste buds. Leaving it in changed the way 50 Cent speaks a bit, but not as severely as it would if they removed the piece.
@jenloveshorror
@jenloveshorror 6 ай бұрын
@heddadybvadskog-nebb5603 ur absolutely correct. I work in the medical field & although I absolutely don't know his case personally, what u have said is true for many ppl, especially our military & law enforcement folk.
@nilloc28
@nilloc28 6 ай бұрын
@@SonicMegaKing It depends. Sometimes surgery is a greater risk than a foreign substance. Given his wealth I’m sure he was seen by an above average surgeon. Sometimes foreign substances will work their way out of the body on their own. I don’t know the details of his case.
@passerinity
@passerinity 6 ай бұрын
Fun fact, in that rushing/dragging scene, Neiman is perfectly on time, hence the lack of reaction from the other drummer. Fletcher was just messing with him
@byunbaekhyun4010
@byunbaekhyun4010 6 ай бұрын
🤢🤮
@BJ52091
@BJ52091 6 ай бұрын
I felt him dragging just a tiny bit when Fletcher said “dragging just a hair”, but otherwise everything else is perfect
@bransolo11
@bransolo11 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, not true. He was definitely dragging dude.
@sulphuric_glue4468
@sulphuric_glue4468 5 ай бұрын
He was dragging to begin with but only very slightly, not enough to notice it without actively listening for it
@goodguyghiza
@goodguyghiza 5 ай бұрын
he didn't do it to mess with him it was because he wasn't sure in himself enough to know he was on time
@flybriur
@flybriur 6 ай бұрын
The shot of his dad at the end is not his dad thinking "wow, my son really achieved greatness" it's really instead a feeling of sadness despair, because his dad now realizes the amount of abuse his son took and the yearning to get his instructor's approval (and then finally got some) has now pulled him in completely where he will never be satisfied and will unhealthily keep pushing himself. That's how I saw it. His father recognizes his son's talent, but he sees the massive cost to achieve it, and the son he knew is no longer. Even the director said that it is a depressing ending, as Andrew will basically become a sad, empty shell of a person and will die in his 30s of a drug overdose. In a sense, his father is basically realizing that in that moment.
@M0du5Pwn3n5
@M0du5Pwn3n5 5 ай бұрын
The shot of his dad at the end is completely ambiguous. That's a big part of what the movie is ultimately about. It's not even subtext - it's just text. They debate it outright in the dialogue. Is Fletcher right, or is he a monster? Does Andrew's decision to go back out and play validate Fletcher's methods, or does it show that, like his father feared, Fletcher's abuse hurt Andrew so badly that he can't help going back to his abuser again and again? Is his father's expression awe? He and the rest of the family dismissed Andrew's pursuits, and his defenses of Andrew, to his family and against Fletcher to the administrator are both very infantilizing. But now he's seeing his son really let it rip, and he's in awe that his son who he loved, but didn't think much of, is not just serious, but prodigious. Or is it horror because he's watching his son have some kind of psychotic episode, his psyche so broken by the last abuse that he's gritting his teeth and bleeding while manically beating the drums as fast as he can? It's both. The movie is really carefully crafted to make sure both interpretations are fully supported. And it does such a uniquely good job of this that on most people's first watch, they have trouble even imagining the other interpretation. But if you go back and watch it from the other perspective, you'll see that it 100% fits too. And the director is pretty upfront that it's supposed to be a complicated relationship and a complicate ending that defies easy categorization as a triumph or a tragedy. He says it's a "happy" ending, but one that was purposefully conflicted ("the saddest happy ending"). He thinks Fletcher's passion for music is "admirable" and thinks his methods do get results and that's "admirable" too, but also Fletcher's behavior makes him irredeemable, and the fact that he ultimately got everything he wanted is itself a bittersweet ending. When he talks about Andrew maybe dying in his 30s like Charlie Parker or Fletcher's earlier student, he's answering an interview question about what how he thinks Andrew would end up, and he's clearly saying something more like "their relationship is complicated and ambiguous, but I'm pretty cynical so personally I think it wouldn't end well" than "I meant for it to be a tragic ending and all those people who think it's not are just delusional".
@artphyputramulyautama5738
@artphyputramulyautama5738 5 ай бұрын
Yeah the script basically said that Andrew father scared at what his son has become, maybe the thing he said earlier in the dinner table was right about a great musician dead young age, idk maybe i was sceptical lol​@JohnJohnson27-cs6ix
@Tusc9969
@Tusc9969 4 ай бұрын
It's NOT depressing to Andrew because he'll be getting what he always wanted... *I'd rather die drunk, broke at 34 and have people at a dinner table talk about me than live to be rich and sober at 90 and nobody remembered who I was*
@hypercrow9563
@hypercrow9563 3 ай бұрын
​@@Tusc9969that's what he thinks now, people are constantly changing, if he were to regret it in the future, it would be depressing
@itsgoldfish2493
@itsgoldfish2493 6 ай бұрын
I WAS RUSHING
@BaddMedicine
@BaddMedicine 6 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤘🤘🤘
@troopsgaming870
@troopsgaming870 6 ай бұрын
​​@@BaddMedicinehighly recommend you to watch 12th fail after this movie.
@EPICMAN_3D
@EPICMAN_3D 6 ай бұрын
THEN WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY SO!
@romoreyes2557
@romoreyes2557 6 ай бұрын
SO YOU DO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE!
@knightley_6779
@knightley_6779 6 ай бұрын
IF YOU DELIBERATELY SABOTAGE MY BAND…
@jlight191
@jlight191 6 ай бұрын
Miles is a self taught drummer and JK already knew how to conduct music. Perfect casting
@kjlucky6501
@kjlucky6501 6 ай бұрын
Miles Teller had to learn how to play jazz style drumming for the movie, but he already had been playing the drums for a long time prior to the movie so most of the scenes are actually him playing. He can also play the saxophone, piano and guitar. Very talented guy.
@Flooding474
@Flooding474 6 ай бұрын
I love the dad shot at the end. Its such a complicated emotional feeling hes showing in his face. Knowing his son _is_ /has becoming one of the greatest but worrying about all the things he mentioned at the dinner table happening to his son.
@flybriur
@flybriur 6 ай бұрын
The shot of his dad at the end is basically dread and sadness because he knows his son is hooked into that world and will be obsessive about his drumming. In essence, he realizes his son's life is over in a way.
@MontagZoso
@MontagZoso 21 күн бұрын
Agreed. His face melts from a look of awe to sadness/horror, in a nanosecond. Brilliant.
@shayminki
@shayminki 6 ай бұрын
Musician here. There absolutely is a limit to how much you can practice your instrument in a day. Not only is there the risk of injury on bones, ligaments and muscles due to the repeated movements and, in extreme cases, bleeding from the friction and blunt trauma from the instrument itself like we see in the movie but you also get generally tired from the physical and mental labor you're doing to actually learn something in each session. Additionally, aside from the physical aspect, at a certain point mentally it's no longer good to keep practicing because your body and mind need the time to process what you were practicing on during the day. If you keep playing something wrong for long enough, you wont be able to do it right again or its at least going to take much longer to unlearn it, so especially if you're learning a new technique, its good not to overtrain. I have friends who were advised not to play their instrument for months by a doctor because they had overtrained and were at a high risk of serious injury. I myself am a singer so for me the length of each session is already much shorter than that of an instrumental player because the body and the vocal cords especially get very tired from practicing hard and they need time to heal just like in bodybuilding or any other muscle training profession. I would not practice for longer than 4 hours. Of course, listening to the music and memorizing it, and practicing and learning theory is different. Hopefully this was insightful for everyone! What a movie!
@sarahlefevre4104
@sarahlefevre4104 6 ай бұрын
This was very insightful! Thank you!
@shayminki
@shayminki 6 ай бұрын
​@@sarahlefevre4104 I'm glad to hear that!
@trequor
@trequor 6 ай бұрын
The best climax of any movie I've seen. It ends PRECISELY when it should. Not a millisecond wasted
@macaronicism
@macaronicism 6 ай бұрын
I have JK Simmons shouting NOT MY FUCKING TEMPO added in between songs every now and then on my workout playlist. 😅
@AhavaMath
@AhavaMath 6 ай бұрын
That's pretty funny. Does it make you exercise harder, or give you a fit of laughter in the middle of your workout?
@macaronicism
@macaronicism 6 ай бұрын
@@AhavaMath Honestly, bit of both, heh!
@cindymcanders
@cindymcanders 6 ай бұрын
My dad was a bad director and was very much like this director. Very intimidating and aggressive. Arrogant. Very hard to deal with growing up. This movie is a rough one for me especially that “tempo” part. That was a normal reaction from my dad in my household. Unobtainable expectations masked as constructive criticism. I’ve had a lot of therepy to deal with the effects of having a parent that’s that intense. No matter how hard you work it was never enough.
@prathapkutty7407
@prathapkutty7407 6 ай бұрын
Oh damn I'm sorry you had to go through that experience. I hope you are in a better place now.
@r-ln5xw
@r-ln5xw 6 ай бұрын
My mother was like this too, very aggressive but an ear for music for sure. I first watched this movie with my parents and she actually fully agreed with JK Simmons' character and methods 😭 she wasn't a director, but she was a classical singer. I've been classically trained in three styles of music, multiple styles of dance, acting...and I've never had a performance praised to this day. I don't perform seriously anymore. It sucks sometimes.
@thedarkemissary
@thedarkemissary 6 ай бұрын
Except..... Neiman DID obtain it. That's the point of the movie.
@inaserene
@inaserene 6 ай бұрын
Sorry you had to go through this :( I feel your pain.
@iCortex1
@iCortex1 6 ай бұрын
Rough, i've dealt with unreasonable expectations too but maybe not to this degree, hope you're doing better :)
@davidaranda5795
@davidaranda5795 6 ай бұрын
There are so many interpretations on the Dads face too. In that final shot where you guys said he finally got to see andrew play and was shocked how good he was. But it also can be seen as the beginning of a father losing his son to his passion like what happens to many musicians. And many more people like to say but such a great film with good acting.
@mayaleeleng
@mayaleeleng Ай бұрын
I'm sure his facial expression definitely wasn't supposed to be a good or 'impressed' thing
@muppetsstoogesfan1
@muppetsstoogesfan1 6 ай бұрын
A couple days after winning the Oscar for this JK Simmons was back in studio recording for the Yellow M&M. Love that he's never forgotten his beginnings.
@mlleopera
@mlleopera 6 ай бұрын
As someone who studied in classical music I have to say that going on stage not being prepared or not knowing the program was a recurring dream of mine. I'm no longer going on auditons or doing competitions and I STILL dream about it. I sometime wonder if the nightmare will ever go away. To me, Whiplash is not about depincting what really goes on in a conservatory of music but about what you wish to sacrifice to be the best in the eye of someone you think matters in your field.
@ryanmessina7309
@ryanmessina7309 6 ай бұрын
A lot of people misunderstand the point of the last scene. It isn't that Neiman won Fletcher's respect or that he's going to be the greatest drummer, but more that he's sacrificing everything else in his life to achieve that. The glance from his father during the solo was his father realizing that his son likely wasn't going to be happy in his personal life, and became exactly who Fletcher wants. It's not like the movie Rudy, where it's about his commitment and dream to be the best player he can, this is more about the negative side of that, where Neiman is giving up everything else in his life, his girlfriend, friends, family, happiness, etc.My old film teacher used to say that This isn't a movie about drumming or music, but a movie about psychology. You could swap out music for art or sports or anything else, because it's more about the abusive and manipulative relationship between Neiman and Fletcher. Andrew had passion and love for music in the beginning of the movie, and Fletcher wore him down and broke him, to the point where he's only playing to prove him wrong.
@thedarkemissary
@thedarkemissary 6 ай бұрын
Read it completely opposite. Neiman only discovers his true passion and talent when he's pushed to what he thought was an impossible level for him. He's given several outs and even takes some throughout the film. But only achieves greatness when he chooses to dive-in and face the challenge. The look from his father is a realization that he and Neiman's cousins were wrong at the dinner table.
@joelwillis2043
@joelwillis2043 6 ай бұрын
pretty straight forward when the director hits you over the head with Neiman runs to his fathers arm and then walks away from him to go back to his abuser.
@sparklydancingmice
@sparklydancingmice 6 ай бұрын
@@thedarkemissary it’s a lot of people’s interpretation but if you read the screenplay Neimans father looks on with horror. It even alludes to neiman dying young either from a drug overdose (in the screen play he starts taking pills) or from hanging himself like Casey. This isn’t a happy ending.
@VickyBarranco
@VickyBarranco 6 ай бұрын
I also never felt it like a happy ending, but I couldn't figure out why
@siddharthapattisapu4706
@siddharthapattisapu4706 6 ай бұрын
It's a movie, you can interpret it however you want
@TasteTheMusicPod
@TasteTheMusicPod 6 ай бұрын
Im a drummer as well and this along with Interstelllar made my 2014. Miles did practice and learn a lot of the musical pieces featured. Some of the close up shots were of a double but mixed very well together. Jazz musicians are extremely talented, focused, and driven to be the best and this film definitely captures some of the process of what it takes to get there. Glad y’all enjoyed. Hope to see some more music centered reactions in the future!
@CasualCat64
@CasualCat64 6 ай бұрын
They’ve been doing a lot of music with the pitch perfect series and this
@TheHitchboy
@TheHitchboy 6 ай бұрын
Also a drummer and Miles' drumming (in and out of character) is horrible in this movie. Practicing till your bleeding, just bashing on the kit, horrible swing groove and way worse than the other 2 drummers, this movie got drumming so wrong.
@TasteTheMusicPod
@TasteTheMusicPod 6 ай бұрын
@@TheHitchboy if your hands ain’t bleeding you’re doing it wrong! 😂😂 very solid and true points lol, you can thank Hollywood exaggeration for that. But the overall theme, practice practice practice and keep pushing to get better 🤙🏻👌🏻
@rousrouslan4023
@rousrouslan4023 6 ай бұрын
So was he rushing or was he dragging?
@Etrius10
@Etrius10 6 ай бұрын
@@TasteTheMusicPod what I got from the movie is actually kinda depressing, like playing an instrument as a career is never actually worth it and even if you are the best you still live in hell for it.
@Pallyforeva
@Pallyforeva 6 ай бұрын
This is my favorite movie of all time. This is by far the best cinematic interpretation of the dangers of obsession and the pain from it. It's pretty much become a yearly rewatch for me to remind myself never to go that far. Hope you all enjoy this masterpiece!
@GusHdzRuiz
@GusHdzRuiz 6 ай бұрын
I think it's a sad ending in a way, showing that Andrew's passion will always take him to destroy his life if that means that he can please others and become the best. Andrew will most likely suffer more abuse from Fletcher as he continues to do music. It's a toxic relationship.
@brettcloud8550
@brettcloud8550 6 ай бұрын
The director went on to say that post script, Andrew absolutely ends up like his idols. Dead at 34 but having achieved great things.
@davidholaday2817
@davidholaday2817 6 ай бұрын
I don't think it's a sad ending. I think it's a good ending. It's about sacrificing everything to achieve greatness.
@bluudrippz
@bluudrippz 6 ай бұрын
@@davidholaday2817on a surface-level, it can seem like a positive ending. but it’s not. that’s the whole point. fletcher gets his student, and andrew get the approval he wanted. but what does he trade for it ? he suffers abuse and ruins all other aspects of his life just to achieve this one thing. that shot of his father when he’s witnessing him play isn’t him being proud of andrew, it’s him finally realising that he’s lost his son to fletcher. because for however long he lives, andrew will stop at nothing to gain that recognition and approval. andrew will hurt himself; forget about those around him; suffer pain and neglect all for fletcher. it’s a classic abuser and victim relationship. it makes this film a masterpiece. the ending seems great but what it conveys is just how the abuse and toxicity won and sunk its claws into andrew. he will become one of the greats but ultimately suffer a sad life that ends too early. you see it in all the greatest musicians. why do you think so many of them do drugs ? or commit suicide ? it’s the price of greatness.
@DrFeelgood1127
@DrFeelgood1127 6 ай бұрын
Talent greatness and competence is offensive to the normies ego, as people like you claim THEY are the one with an ego problem…
@bluudrippz
@bluudrippz 6 ай бұрын
@@DrFeelgood1127you’re speaking as if it’s from experience when you’re quite literally just another sub-average person on youtube watching reaction videos. you’re not talented nor great nor competent. you’re a groupie that injects yourself in places where you don’t actually belong and then criticise/look down upon your own people. no one knows your name. no one will remember you. you’re not special. you’re average. you live and then you die. there’s nothing amazing about you or your life.
@Marina-cq2yt
@Marina-cq2yt 6 ай бұрын
Love how you guys went from joking around at the chair being thrown to complete silence and jaws hanging open. This movie is incredible.
@EPICMAN_3D
@EPICMAN_3D 6 ай бұрын
The ending scene is just chef's kiss
@Rated314
@Rated314 6 ай бұрын
Miles Teller is a drummer, but JK Simmons... had acting not worked out, he has a degree in music theory and was on a path to be a composer/conductor. The story of how this movie came to be, it truly manifested its own greatness.
@None-lx8kj
@None-lx8kj 3 ай бұрын
I find that hard to believe. Teller definitely has some drumming talent (albeit abysmal technique). Simmons plays a really good psychopath and demonstrates a very, very slight degree of musical acumen. His conducting more closely resembles a baby duckling learning to walk than anyone striving to be a serious musician.
@Rated314
@Rated314 3 ай бұрын
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@comedygold2360
@comedygold2360 6 ай бұрын
In Caravan, the final performance, the end is actually around a five-ish minute drum solo, which I believe was cut out of the original performance, however Andrew kept going, proving himself.
@Rk91M
@Rk91M 6 ай бұрын
Whiplash and Lalaland are two of my favorite movies for different reasons. On both films I have changed my interpretation after years and a couple of rewatches.
@john-paulcastro9709
@john-paulcastro9709 6 ай бұрын
54:00 Oak, to give some perspective on music practice routines: When I was preparing for my senior recital (music majors version of a graduation exam) I was playing in various ensembles and/or practicing 8+ hours a day. (I wasn't even the best player either). Also, being a woodwind player, it was absolutely mentally taxing *and* physically taxing for my fingers and facial muscles since they determined the quality of sound I could produce through the horn. After so many hours you get diminishing returns on the improvements you can make. Fatigue can make you lose even the basics of what you know how to do.
@rhaspodel
@rhaspodel 6 ай бұрын
One of my all-time favorites Director Damien Chazelle wrote Whiplash as a homage to his time and struggles when he took part in a studio band; Fletcher was loosely based on Chazelle's harsh band instructor. If you guys haven't done La La Land and First Man, you guys need to watch those films.
@yohanespaskal9352
@yohanespaskal9352 6 ай бұрын
You missing on Babylon
@AhamedThanveer-os3wx
@AhamedThanveer-os3wx 6 ай бұрын
Waiting for leo 🦁🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@rhaspodel
@rhaspodel 6 ай бұрын
@@AhamedThanveer-os3wx new film?
@valerievention
@valerievention 6 ай бұрын
As a percussionist who's played for 9 years in a concert band, drum line, basketball band, and a rock band, this movie is like my worst nightmare come true lol 🥁🎶
@17thknight
@17thknight 6 ай бұрын
This was 100% the experience in band for all of us in my school. My wife had to dip out of the movie halfway through because it was giving her PTSD from her percussion years. We were really good though, marched in Macy's.
@nuclearbirds
@nuclearbirds 6 ай бұрын
I started tearing up when Oak said to take your dad to the movies. My dad died of cancer and it was almost impossible to connect to him on any level. We have… had… such different interests. I loved art, poetry, animation; he loved cars, carpentry, and fishing. He didn’t even like movies all that much. There were a few exceptions. One thing that my dad did love was boxing movies, especially the Rocky films. So, when Creed hit theaters, we went. It wasn’t my favorite movie of all time, but it was enjoyable. More importantly, holds a special place in my heart because it was one of the few times where I could actually be with my dad and we enjoyed something together, without it feeling like one of us was just suffering through it for the sake of the other.
@WheresWaldo05
@WheresWaldo05 6 ай бұрын
No one dislikes music. Human speech is always in the form of music. There is no other way to talk without music coming from our vocal cords. Even monotone robotic, is still technically a musical hym. Our ears and brains need music.
@nips2good4u80
@nips2good4u80 6 ай бұрын
The Rocky films are my fathers favorite too, and one of my top movies series. Watching those after he passes would be incredibly hard to do without crying my eyes out. sorry for your loss man!
@heddadybvadskog-nebb5603
@heddadybvadskog-nebb5603 6 ай бұрын
So miles teller already played the drums before he got this role but then took additional jazz lessons to prepare. There is a quote from the editor that Teller did 99% of the drumming, but some of the most intense closeups and overhead shots used a drum double
@christined6321
@christined6321 6 ай бұрын
Agree with Diamond Dave he for sure wanted to bury him, but he had to respect the grit and craft. Loved this so much! One of the best movies Hollywood has put out in along time! Great reaction!👍🏾
@melanie62954
@melanie62954 6 ай бұрын
Incredible reaction to an incredible film, guys! "Is greatness worth it?" is a philosophical debate that goes back at least to Homer's Iliad. Achilles was given a choice to live a long, peaceful, happy life, or to go out young in a blaze of glory and be remembered. I think when we're young, living for greatness and glory has more appeal--we're desperate to make our mark. But it often becomes less and less important as we get older and we realize how precious peace and happiness are. I do wonder how interpretations of this film differ according to generation. I can see both interpretations--that it's a tragedy, or a triumph--but I tend to lean more toward Andrew heading in a tragic direction. It's simple. Greatness is what he wants now, even if he dies when he's 30. But what about 40 year old Andrew? He might want something entirely different from 20 year old Andrew, and may never have a chance because of what his 20 year old self sacrifices.
@user-vf3wk2nw9d
@user-vf3wk2nw9d 6 ай бұрын
I’m not into jazz or drumming whatsoever and somehow this movie is in my top 10 favorite movies ever. Pretty crazy.
@jip5889
@jip5889 6 ай бұрын
Well if you are into jazz or drumming this should be a no brainer for your top 10.
@GravesOGDS
@GravesOGDS 6 ай бұрын
He probably ment not into it seeing the random whatsoever in his sentence
@sodathejunker
@sodathejunker 4 ай бұрын
If you’ve ever been passionate about something beyond other’s understanding, or you’ve been pushed to your limits in an abusive way despite learning to produce results, this movie captures both perfectly. Its an oddly human thing that applies to so many fields besides music or the arts
@fraker12
@fraker12 6 ай бұрын
Watching Whiplash the first time is an experience. It's a mix of 'Wow, that was amazing' and 'Holy Fck that was exhausting.' Now we wait for La La Land.
@BolofromAvlis
@BolofromAvlis 6 ай бұрын
Cool, wonderful movie. I remember being so pleasantly surprised when I saw this. JK Simmons and Miles Teller really bring it. The drumming scenes look so believable because Teller actually knows how to play. I have watched this several times over the years. It's a favorite.I've often wondered if Fletcher was based on old IU basketball coach Bobby Knight, especially with the chair throwing in that first scene in the music room. Knight was notorious for being hard on his players and was called a bully by many players and staff at IU. But there were other players who loved him.
@lillonerboi504
@lillonerboi504 6 ай бұрын
This movie to me was always about the idea of what I call “constructed greatness”. Where someone, whether it be a father, sibling, friend or as we see your coach or mentor uses you as a vessel for their ideals and dreams. Fletcher reveals subtly that he himself is actually filled with resentment towards himself in his sit down with Andrew after he’s removed from Schafer. He’s like Andrew, and wanted to be great, to be known. It’s obvious not just in how he idolizes the idea of greatness but also how obsessed he is with music being perfected to a very specific science almost, something which runs parallel to making true art. Fletcher is like the dad who wanted to go to the NFL but knows they weren’t good enough and can’t accept that, so they abuse their child into being the perfect model of a player in whatever sport or activity the parent wishes. Which in this movie makes it even more messed up since Andrew has his father, and he loves his son and wants the best for him. But that doesn’t make a difference when Fletcher has warped his self worth into wanting to live exactly as Fletcher wants, and how he wanted to live himself when he was Andrew’s age. And we see that abusive mentality win out in the final moments, as Fletcher practically takes the main role as Andrew’s “father figure” and the man he seeks to be validated by the most. The main lesson to be learned, greatness shouldn’t need to cost you your humanity and freedom so don’t let it, and don’t let someone slap the shit out of you for messing up the sheet music lol. Nobody deserves that.
@3r1cqk
@3r1cqk 6 ай бұрын
i beg to differ. if fletcher wouldn’t have pushed andrew that hard, andrew would have never become one of the greats. although fletcher’s method of revealing and surfacing andrew’s true potential was clearly immoral and wrong, shown in the movie through the phone call of one of his former students offing himself, if fletcher wouldn’t have done any of that, the world would not have been able to see andrew’s greatness. of course when you bring it down to a personal level, no one would want someone yelling and screaming horrible things at them like fletcher did because it can really wear and tear a person down resulting in unwanted consequences. however, I think andrew knew he was apart of something much bigger than himself. his complete obsession and drive for the art of the drums was propelled forward through fletchers training process. not only did andrew become great, but he also found purpose and fulfillment with the help of fletcher. without fletcher, there would be no andrew.
@lillonerboi504
@lillonerboi504 6 ай бұрын
@@3r1cqk Yeah I hard disagree. This train of thought allows the perpetuation of abuse in all facets of life. You really don’t need this unending drive that consumes you to the core to be great. Especially in the arts. Being a good mentor in anything means letting a person build themselves, and guiding them with a “firm but gentle” hand. Manipulation tactics work so well and require training to see through at times because humans in the vast majority are very similar in terms of psychology. Constructing greatness can make someone “great” sure. But they didn’t make themselves that way, you did. And that’s immoral and should never be tolerated. That is abuse, in Andrew’s case all forms except sexual. It’s not to be taken as a positive outcome. The director of the film would agree since he based it around his own abusive experiences but to a lesser extent in his own school band. Abuse is never the right course of action. Ever. Like you literally state “without Fletcher there would be no Andrew”. That’s literally admitting to Fletcher stealing away his identity and warping it to his own personal belief system of what makes someone “great.” It’s the same song and dance as a dad using his kid for his failed football career. You gotta be able to see that.
@pemp9606
@pemp9606 6 ай бұрын
It’s messed up and in today’s society it never happens, but their is an argument that Fletcher is the reason he becomes great. Now you can say that doesn’t matter and being the absolute best isn’t worth taking that abuse, but some great artists/athletes would disagree. It all depends on what you think is worth sacrificing to be great There is a lot of ambiguity in this movie. Andrews mindset throughout the whole movie is “I’d rather die the greatest drummer at 30 than a rich person that no one knows about”, and I don’t think it ever really changes in the end. That could be because that’s truly what he believes in his heart, or Fletcher brainwashed him. Even in the last scene when his dad is watching him play, I took it two ways. Either “oh my god my son is greatness” or “oh my god what has he become”. It all comes down to whether or not it was worth it. Fletcher pushed him to be great, but also pushed away everyone that he cared about. I would say it’s not worth it, but I see the other side of the argument.
@wondacat
@wondacat 6 ай бұрын
@@pemp9606 "Greatness" is never worth abuse. Period. No one should ever be abused to "prove their true worth" because any person can become great without being physically or emotionally hurt. In fact, them being hurt sets back people more than it can ever aid them. People are most driven by true passion, and are not miserable while doing it because it comes from joy and freedom. If you hurt someone and drive them to their goals from spite, they will be haunted by their work, literally and physically, for as long as they are pushed in that way.
@lillonerboi504
@lillonerboi504 6 ай бұрын
@@pemp9606 I will die on the hill that believing abuse is ever necessary for any sort of greatness in anything is one of the greatest issues in society. Please stop normalizing abuse of any kind. Great people are not made as a result of the abuse they suffer but because they learned to overcome it and that grew them as a person. You can say Fletcher was the main reason for Andrew’s success but I can list a massive number of things that also play a role in his success. His natural talent, his curiosity, his naturally reserved demeanor. These things allow for success, and plenty of it. Andrew also has a support system in his father and has a burgeoning relationship with a girl. These things also can provide both support and a firm hand to keep you on the right path. There is absolutely no argument to be made that sometimes people respond to abuse with greater effort. But it’s not fulfilling. Andrew is very clearly not happy at the end of the film and that’s really not debatable. That’s why he gives up his support system, why he falls back into the cycle of abuse that we see so often. He may be better at the drums but he doesn’t even care. His own greatness isn’t even fulfilling, just Fletchers admiration. Even if he did go on to be Fletchers “Charlie Parker” he wouldn’t be able to enjoy it. He would always be second fiddle to the man who controlled his psyche for the entirety of his time at Schafer. I’m not saying Fletcher CAN’T make Andrew great. I’m saying it’s never necessary to make anyone great with abuse. There is NO ONE who gets validation from abuse. Those who believe differently, are in the literal midst of that abuse and are in full denial. My opinion on what Chazelle was trying to convey is exactly that. Don’t accept crap because you are told there’s a shining light on the other side. That’s a textbook way to fall for pretty much any manipulation.
@oranski3299
@oranski3299 6 ай бұрын
I am continuously so impressed by this channel. A great reaction and a phenomenal review, everyone bringing beautifully thoughtful insight. I have so much respect for anyone who knows of some media they expect to dislike, tries it, loves it and admits their preconception was wrong. I'm guilty of getting stuck at step 1 all too often, so for Mason Quinn especially, huge props for this one.
@randeecarreno4289
@randeecarreno4289 6 ай бұрын
I was rushing to click on this reaction! And I already know that I'm going to love it. 😊 This is one of my absolute favorite JK Simmons and Miles Tiller films. Such phenomenal performances by both. Fun Fact: JK Simmons swept the awards season in 2015 for his performance in this movie. He definitely deserved it. Looking forward to the next reaction. 😊
@anontay916
@anontay916 6 ай бұрын
Neimen is in college. In music school you have different bands ranked differently. You can move up by auditioning and each band is technically a class. I never experienced anyone getting moved down. Miles Teller was in a car accident with some friends and he was thrown from the car. He has since had them lasered so they are less noticiable.
@leogothisoscar271
@leogothisoscar271 6 ай бұрын
I LOVE this movie. 2014 was an excellent year for film: this, Birdman, Nightcrawler, Gone Girl, The Drop, Interstellar, Grand Budapest Hotel, Edge of Tomorrow, Locke, Foxcatcher, and I could go on.
@artphyputramulyautama5738
@artphyputramulyautama5738 5 ай бұрын
So many great films from that year
@greendalf123
@greendalf123 6 ай бұрын
Tune a guitar… Tune a piano… Tuna fish! And the award for dad joke of the year is here 🏆
@Nicitel96
@Nicitel96 6 ай бұрын
I was just driving and listening to Caravan, thinking I have to check if there's a new reaction to Whiplash, got home, forgot and this popped up on my feed. I'm truly blessed
@willcool713
@willcool713 6 ай бұрын
This was tough for me to watch, took 7 tries to get through the movie. It brought back flashbacks of my father, a malignant narcissist with a violent, vengeful temper. When he died, I was so proud I'd outlived the bastard and that I hadn't murdered either one of us. I cried with relief for days, still do sometimes. The world is a better place.
@jenloveshorror
@jenloveshorror 6 ай бұрын
This movie has such deep meanings, but i just wanted to give a shout out to all the musicians out there. My son is in a band, but i have zero talent so he took it upon himself to get what he needed and learn how to play for years & now hes in a band that are booking gigs. The amount of time & work & sacrifice my son put into learning his craft is mind boggling. I applaude all of you wonderful ppl that bring us non talented folk awesome music. Just make sure ur watching out for ur health too along the way. U cant be great if ur not staying healthy in body, mind, & soul.❤
@sarahrobins8605
@sarahrobins8605 6 ай бұрын
55:00 I think this is really great you brought this up Oak! I’ve been playing piano for 10+ years and it can be very physically and mentally taxing as you learn throughout the years because it demands a lot of different types of focus and flexibility (and psychology because you’re always trying to convince yourself that you’re good enough as a musician). I would spend an hour or two with a teacher and then proceed to keep practicing for another 3-4 hours.
@oranski3299
@oranski3299 6 ай бұрын
Loved the discussion around Fletcher's intentions. Personally I believe he was trying to bury Andrew, but it isn't as simple as that. Fletcher was going to win regardless of the outcome. If Andrew quit, Fletcher gets his revenge. If Andrew didn't quit, Fletcher finally gets his Charlie Parker. It's indicative of abusive relationships, the only way for the abused to "win" is to leave. Abusers engineer scenarios where they dominate their victim. As much as Andrew was happy (his smile in the finale), he's still on Fletcher's hook and I believe the aftermath of this movie could be one where Andrew rides the line between being a Charlie Parker or being a Sean Casey. I've been a huge fan of this movie for years and it is still fascinating to me. Always happy to see more intelligent conversation on this topic, you guys are great.
@ericamonroe9351
@ericamonroe9351 6 ай бұрын
This movie... such a simple plot... BUT, the performances are so SOOOO brilliant that no matter how many times I've watched it, whenever it's on TV I can't help but watch it again. So well written and beautifully executed. You can actually feel the tension throughout the movie. Miles' solo gives me goosebumps every time !! Love it!
@QuantumMan
@QuantumMan 6 ай бұрын
Mason Quinn's "tuna fish" joke killed me. :D
@Dtronic2
@Dtronic2 6 ай бұрын
Rushing! This movie came on one night and I had no idea about it. I was totally engrossed and amazed at the story told. So glad you guys watched this.
@abhokie1
@abhokie1 6 ай бұрын
"No two words are more harmful that GOOD JOB..."... That quote encapsulates the whole movie!! Wish you guys would've kept that in.
@Replicaate
@Replicaate 6 ай бұрын
I love this film, so much. I didn't go to music school, but i was a fine arts student and I do NOT miss the pressure put on us by some profs, not just to do well academically but achieve some kind of insane perfection to their personal standards. Good thing I was far too mediocre an artist to warrant that kind of special attention... A side note: I saw a letterboxd review of Top Gun:Maverick saying "Its nice to see Miles Teller return to his roots of being tormented by a jacked man in his sixties who demands perfection". I was amused.
@xXdreamer4alwaysXx
@xXdreamer4alwaysXx 6 ай бұрын
My dad does that popcorn candy thing! He either does it with milk duds or raisinets, but I think it’s milk duds. He doesn’t pour them in the popcorn, though. Just tosses the candy back then immediately shoves popcorn in his mouth right after.
@RockyDaTherapist
@RockyDaTherapist 6 ай бұрын
It’s the sweet and salty taste that makes it good. 😊
@WizardOnWeed
@WizardOnWeed 6 ай бұрын
"If you still have a dad around go to the movies with your dad, trust me, you'll thank me later" As someone who's 29 and lost his dad 8 years ago, this really rasonated with me. If only one person ends up taking your advice Oak you will have made this world a better place already. You're a good man, thank you for this.
@janasoskova007
@janasoskova007 6 ай бұрын
If you liked this movie, you might also enjoy Black Swan. It came out a few years before this and is very similar, but set in the world of ballet and it's incredibly interesting, with Natalie Portman giving a killer performance.
@john-paulcastro9709
@john-paulcastro9709 6 ай бұрын
Hey Oak! Playing the saxophone 🎷 *IS* cool. 😎 (I've been playing for 20 years and was a music educator for 7).
@redharlow9750
@redharlow9750 6 ай бұрын
Miles Teller got his first kit at 15 years old. Even so, he wasn't familiar with jazz drums, so the film team booked him pre-shoot lessons. Between those classes and Teller's 12 years of previous percussion experience i'd say he did a spectacular job
@Tabnito
@Tabnito 6 ай бұрын
The part of artistry and creatives that people don't like to think about or talk about. The hard work and years of practice that go into it all wether it's singing, playing an instrument, painting, drawing, writing, or sculpting (and many others). The years of work and sacrifice behind every work. There is nothing more human and important, besides the connections we create which often are forged through the work and art of ourselves and others. And then we have ai schlop trying to replace it all and drown our humanity out. Coming for art first is what no one expected, as Miyazaki said, it's an insult to life itself.
@suvijii841
@suvijii841 6 ай бұрын
The best ending scene in modern movie history. Standing ovation was the appropriate way to react. This movie is in my top 10 of all-time best movies.
@mimig3904
@mimig3904 6 ай бұрын
Great reaction. Savage film on all levels, but I believe they were finally equals in the end. And not only were they equals, but they both got what they wanted. You realize that at the end when they acknowledged each other. Miles found his greatness without fear, and Fletcher finally found the genius protege he had always been looking for. Fletcher's point was never about "encouraging." They both operated at another level from the rest. As to "what if you pushed the next 'Charley' away," then he wasn't the 'genius.' Remember Fletcher's story on Parker. One of my favorite movies.
@filmgirlLisa
@filmgirlLisa 6 ай бұрын
A big part of me agrees with this. "Charleys" can't get discouraged -- not for long anyway. It's in them and they can't get it out.
@alexanderthegreat5649
@alexanderthegreat5649 6 ай бұрын
JK earned his Oscar for this w/o a single doubt! Also IMDB Trivia reveals the screenplay actual says a janitor threw the folder away on accident, and likely post production changed/removed this revelation for exactly the way it turned out. Not knowing made it seem more malicious "was it Andrew? Was it Terrence? Who's the mastermind?" Not knowing is certainly better than *Andrew got his shot not through awesome cunning(be it his or Fletchers) but a janitor randomly throwing out a folder which he shouldn't have seeing as how all these bands are here with folders like that it likely belongs to them 😂😂*
@tonybeltran4366
@tonybeltran4366 6 ай бұрын
anytime i see a youtuber watching this masterpiece, you're damn right im rushing
@princessbablaschmabladingd7451
@princessbablaschmabladingd7451 6 ай бұрын
Easily one of the best endings to a movie ever. I love how many times the rug gets pulled out from under Andrew/Fletcher. One of you said it best - "I can't tell who is playing who!"
@nekoaltman305
@nekoaltman305 6 ай бұрын
The end of the movie was the abuser winning. That look from his dad wasn’t a “oh I get it now” look. It was a “im losing my son” look. He gave into his abuser and threw his life aside
@ricardomiles2957
@ricardomiles2957 6 ай бұрын
The best description for this movie i've heard is it's a Dark Awakening. He "won" but in the worst way possible, falling back for what is extremely toxic relationship.
@sample.text.
@sample.text. 6 ай бұрын
Miles Teller did 99% of the drumming in this movie apart from some of the super intense closeup shots. He was already a pretty decent drummer beforehand but this took him to a whole new level. Jazz drum is a whole different ballgame from playing along to AC/DC or Greenday.
@OMGEEZish
@OMGEEZish 6 ай бұрын
You guys reacting to my all time favorite movie is amazing ! There are very few movies I can watch over and over again and feel the same emotions and whiplash is on that list !
@benscribner2483
@benscribner2483 6 ай бұрын
SO HAPPY YOU GUYS WATCHED THIS! Incredible film, easily a 5 star film. Also, Teller was in a crazy car wreck and those scars are from that. I recommend LaLa Land next.
@paulosterman4506
@paulosterman4506 6 ай бұрын
Miles Teller played the drums growing up and JK Simmons actually went to music school and thought he was going to be a conductor
@nite_rixt4763
@nite_rixt4763 6 ай бұрын
One of my favorite movies! Glad you guys got to react to this! 😊🎉
@woernerz2810
@woernerz2810 6 ай бұрын
Oak needs to get the guys on a reaction for Godfather after hearing they haven't seen it 😅
@ladyhotep5189
@ladyhotep5189 6 ай бұрын
ABSOLUTELY
@SherriLyle80s
@SherriLyle80s 6 ай бұрын
I love love love this movie. My daughters both play violas and the work they put into their music is beyond my scope. My oldest is in Chamber and the work they put in is intense at times. But Jazz in a professional or college setting is rough too
@FellowWorldTraveler
@FellowWorldTraveler 6 ай бұрын
Great reaction as always but i CANNOT believe that the "There are no two words in the English language more harmful than good job." Did not make the cut! the best line in the movie
@filmgirlLisa
@filmgirlLisa 6 ай бұрын
I was waiting for that line too!
@TheSeeking2know
@TheSeeking2know 3 ай бұрын
I appreciate your thoughts and understanding of different types of approaches for high-performance high-talent young people. You give different perspectives and don't only look at Fletcher from the obvious negative/trauma-inducing methods he used, but also what he was trying to achieve in his extremely flawed method. The fact that you guys are athletes and have either experienced or heard about difficult trainers and know some people are not motivated for high-performance by praise and motivation and may require a tougher approach. Some people practice up to 6-8 hours every day. It can be crazy in the music world. Many burn out and have complained about the intensity and relentless pressure.
@user-vf3wk2nw9d
@user-vf3wk2nw9d 6 ай бұрын
Just like the drill sergeant in full metal jacket was to determined to create the perfect soldier, Fletcher was determined to create the perfect band and drummer. You can’t help but notice a lot of similarities between the two movies.
@BuffPomsky
@BuffPomsky 6 ай бұрын
I think u guys should re-examine the father's final stare at the end. It wasnt a look of appreciation or respect, but it was a look of fear
@erin4144
@erin4144 6 ай бұрын
YEEEESSSS I literally looked up the other day if y’all had done a reaction to Whiplash!!!! This is AWESOME and I’m so ready for it!!
@o.b.7217
@o.b.7217 6 ай бұрын
Both were obsessed. That's "all" there was to it. Two obsessed people found each other.
@justthej
@justthej 6 ай бұрын
I had an old school band director like this. No slaps but he pushed you. Most programs are intense. Every one wants first chair. Few get there. I made it and the view was heavenly. #bandheads
@MrLofwyr
@MrLofwyr 6 ай бұрын
Myles Tellar know how to play drums but he had to learn "Traditional grip" of the sticks, since nowadays drummers usually learn "French grip". He had to learn how to play "Caravan", the last music.
@gourobkumar7575
@gourobkumar7575 6 ай бұрын
After following for a month, i can say this is the best reaction channel on the platform
@ErnestoComposer
@ErnestoComposer 6 ай бұрын
I'm a drummer too and studied music in college. Oak is right at the end about diminishing returns when you put a lot of time into one session. The absolute best players I knew practiced at least 3 hours a day. By the end of my college career, I was practicing about 2 hours a day pretty consistently, but never got to the point where I was killing my hands. This film gets a bad rap in my circles because it's an unrealistic depiction of what the music world is like, though I have had teachers who diminish students to a certain degree, and they do come back better because they don't want to be berated again. I guess it's a method. I don't care about how realistic the film is to a jazz program, I just love the movie for what it is! I love movies like this. Side note, I know a couple of the people who worked on the music side of this film, like Tim Simonec who wrote a few tunes for the bands to play in the film, and the drummer who played the recorded drum parts for this movie (he told me he wasn't allowed to say that he was the drummer for this movie, but he's still proud of his work).
@Erik-nw3kc
@Erik-nw3kc 6 ай бұрын
Great reaction and even greater commentary. I would’ve listened to your guys conversation if it were longer. I found it very interesting and relatable
@john-paulcastro9709
@john-paulcastro9709 6 ай бұрын
For Appleton Oak: The reason for the different grips is different schools of thought and different techniques based on which drum you are playing. The specific reason for the inverted left hand grip was that marching snare drums used to be carried by the player by one diagonal strap and the drum head was therefore slanted towards the players right hand. You had to change the left hand grip in order to be able to use both hands. It was so common that it came to be called "traditional" grip. (P.S. the right hand typically never uses inverted grip).
@hannahhudson9335
@hannahhudson9335 6 ай бұрын
This is one of my favourite films, I was going to request for you guys to react to this but I didn’t think enough people would want it! You read my mind! Very excited for this one I hope you guys enjoyed it!
@josephwilliams9209
@josephwilliams9209 6 ай бұрын
I played in jazz band in high school and college. This movie was so amazing on some many levels. The shot where his dad understands his passion…..👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾.
@austinpena5605
@austinpena5605 6 ай бұрын
Is this a re-upload? Either way, top ten movie for me and always gets me in the Jazz mode. Also the last 10ish minutes, chef kiss
@BaddMedicine
@BaddMedicine 6 ай бұрын
This is not re-upload. Hope you enjoy.
@ghosthunter6475
@ghosthunter6475 6 ай бұрын
Bro this is so like your lie and April so much playing and you can hear the notes
@DynomitePunch
@DynomitePunch 6 ай бұрын
yeah i've always read this movie off as being about the darker side of trying to achieve a lofty goal and how if your not careful you can become easily swallowed by your own ambition and either lose all the important things in your life or just become dissatisfied with your own ability later in the future, it's not a happy ending by any means, it's ok to dream kids, and it's ok to chase your passion, but don't forget that their is more to life than achievement, ambition is the wick of the candle of life, burn it too much and pretty soon their won't be anything left
@4523bgb
@4523bgb 6 ай бұрын
So many reactors miss the moment of his Dad finally seeing his son, for real for the first time. The look on his face, realizing just how good his son is. Goosebumps every time.
@kassiogomes8498
@kassiogomes8498 6 ай бұрын
Wrong. His father looks at him worried that he lost he son again to an abuser.
@lucashogan2912
@lucashogan2912 6 ай бұрын
@kassiogomes8498 Wrong. It’s both
@somerandomguy2073
@somerandomguy2073 6 ай бұрын
What? How the hell do you look at that expression and think he's anything other than horrified? There isn't an ounce of pride on that man's face.
@filmgirlLisa
@filmgirlLisa 6 ай бұрын
Love that it's a debate. Personally I saw a father realizing that he could never fully understand or be in the place where his son exists. To me it's beyond "he's really good" because he's not cheering. He's mesmerized. He has an alien for a son and he's not sure how to comprehend it all.
@4523bgb
@4523bgb 6 ай бұрын
@@filmgirlLisa Yes. I go back to the dinner table scene...nobody took him serious...nobody cared about him making the studio band. Then his dad finally sees him in his element and finally gets it.
@bcsmith8994
@bcsmith8994 6 ай бұрын
Not through the full video yet, but im so glad you guys like this movie. I find it interesting how you saw this movie as hopeful or positive because in my viewing as beautiful this movie was and as amazing as Andrew’s final performance was its still a depressing ending. The shot of his dad watching him, thats him realizing he lost his son
@mimig3904
@mimig3904 6 ай бұрын
I see the dad's reaction differently. He finally realized that his son was a genius musician, not merely good. A very subjective movie.
@bcsmith8994
@bcsmith8994 6 ай бұрын
@@mimig3904Incredibly subjective but thats why its a beautiful movie. To me it HAS to be a sad ending because he left his father’s hug and he was sucked into Fletcher’s world. He might have the same future as Flecther’s student who hanged himself
@mimig3904
@mimig3904 6 ай бұрын
@@bcsmith8994 Yes, that's the genius of the movie. And the dad's reaction can be both: awed by the son's genius and afraid for his son's future.
@zangetsuloko6223
@zangetsuloko6223 6 ай бұрын
That movie gave so much of a rollercoaster of emotions! I got happy, angry, confused, afraid, revolted, enjoyed, happy again, completely flabbergasted.
@Bringmethehorizondude
@Bringmethehorizondude 6 ай бұрын
This movie is about how if you want to be great, you have to flipping earn it. You have to want it and you have work for it.
@greed6305
@greed6305 6 ай бұрын
this movie is about sacrificing everything for greatness. which is the worst choice ever. he had the most abusive director ever and you're saying this, that's unbelievable
@LeonardoGPN
@LeonardoGPN 6 ай бұрын
Fletcher didn't expected him to come back, but he wanted him to. Both loved music more than they hated each other.
@aldersleysteven
@aldersleysteven 6 ай бұрын
I subscribe to about 40 reaction channels, but you four guys are right up there among my favorites. I wish I could choose 50 movies and see what you make of them. Your reaction to Whiplash was similar to mine; I had no expectations at all because the premise didn't sound interesting, but it blew me away. I watched it because it was nominated and available to stream. It's definitely a Top 20 movie for me and I watch it often. The closing scene feels like the ending to an action movie. I think one thing that can define a good movie is a genre or subject that seems incredibly dull, but you end up loving it because of the writing, direction, and performances. A few that fall into that category for me are 12 Angry Men, Linklater's Before Trilogy, Margin Call, Moneyball, The King's Speech, Up in the Air, The Imitation Game, and Green Book. Keep doing what you are doing. I love the energy and your insights.
@Lydiashuppert1
@Lydiashuppert1 6 ай бұрын
Finally!!!!!! I asked for this review two years ago and have been subscribed waiting for this!!!! Yayyyyyyyy
@PhantomGaming-kx1ef
@PhantomGaming-kx1ef 6 ай бұрын
Finally you guys reacted to this masterpiece, have been waiting for ages. My top 3 favourite movies of all time
@phillytothej4001
@phillytothej4001 6 ай бұрын
From what I've seen online Myles Tellar actually knows how to play drums and it helped him get the part in this
@graciefolden2359
@graciefolden2359 6 ай бұрын
Multiple cuts of Miles playing put together for each song
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