22:26 "no now you've pissed me off" "Why've I pissed you off?" "I dont know yet" You guys are fucking GOLD 😭

I’ll say what we’re all thinking… Hannah is an incredible cinema student. She sees characters well, gets their motivations, understands tone, and makes a large number of correct predictions. Salute.

Hannah’s face after Ash said the girl was cute had me dying 😂😂😂

JK Simmons took home the Oscar for Best Supporting Actor for his role in the movie.

Fun fact: Before getting into acting, JK Simmons actually earned a degree in music conducting & composition.

There’s a line between passion and obsession. Fletcher is absolutely obsessed.

Hannah can literally guess the entire plot of a movie within the first 10 minutes

Hannah is fucking hilarious in this one, her glares and one-liners had me dying "why have I pissed you off?" "I don't know yet"

When Hana went goblin mode on the teacher for yelling at the main character i laughed so hard, so cute for being mad at an actor acting so good hahaha

Most people don't see what is happening in this movie. Obsession wins here, and we are supposed to question whether living a normal live is worth it, or trying to live for the history books. The shot at the end where the father watches in horror as his son becomes the legend he never became. He created a family, and lived in happiness. The main character will never have this. He gave up love and family to live a dream, and most likely would end as one of the music legends that end in an overdose in some bar toilet.

“He threw a cymbal at em… Symbolisms!” I died!🤣🤣🤣

as someone studying to become a music teacher, i think this movie is a masterclass on how NOT to teach people lol being loud and abusive doesnt actually make people perform better, rather it makes them more nervous and more likely mess up

A series of facts about the movie, Whiplash: 1. The film was shot in 19 days, with filming lasting 14 hours most days. 2. During the jazz bar scene, that really is J.K. Simmons/Terence Fletcher/The Bald Guy playing, as Simmons used to play frequently and comes from a family of musicians. 3. Related to No. 2, Miles Teller/Neiman was a drummer since his mid-teens, though a double was used for certain shots and parts. 4. In a creepy twist of fate, the director of the film, Damien Chazelle, was in a car accident during the third week of the shoot and was hospitalized with a possible concussion. He promptly returned to the set the next day to finish on time. 5. The take used for Neiman's slapping scene was where Simmons slapped Teller for real. Furthermore, during the scenes where Andrew and the other drummers are exhausted, takes would often run into each other to actually make them tired. This even extended to Miles Teller ending up with actual blisters and bleeding sores from overplaying, making some of the blood actually his. 6. Director Damien Chazelle reveals that his movie's ending has… less than pleasant implications for Andrew. Specifically, he argues that Fletcher will always think he beat Andrew. Chazelle even states that Andrew will ''wind up dead in his '30s from a drug overdose'', making Andrew's previous comment of wanting to die broke and drunk at 34 incredibly disturbing in hindsight. Also, a little tidbit about Fletcher, Jo Jones, and Charlie Parker: Fletcher loves the story of Jo Jones sending Charlie Parker off the stage by throwing a cymbal at his head and framed it as a crucial moment when he determined to become the great musician he is known as now. He misses or omits that Jones didn't throw it at his head but his feet and it wasn't a personal attack with witnesses saying it was more playful than done out of anger and with Jones not intending to harm or humiliate Parker and Parker didn't play again for months and then only as an art form. The story was really about Parker realizing he wasn't suited to the rigid approach of Jones' band and determined to forge his own path and create his own style through rigid self-discipline but Fletcher interpreted it as a story about how Jones being abusive to Parker set him on the path to greatness and used it as a justification for his own cruelty. As an added bonus, Parker was also notorious for losing saxes (or pawning them to feed his drug habit) while misplacing equipment or sheet music is one of the many things that pisses Fletcher off.

this movie is not about music and musicians, it is about the pain, discipline, and sacrifice needed to reach virtuoso level in whatever field you choose

"Why are you crying?" _Yeah, this guy understands emotions._

When the camera focused on the cymbals on the last scene.... cymbalisms

To be honest I think the message is a bit darker than it being this inspirational ‘push yourself and you’ll achieve’ - yes push yourself to the limit but at what cost? Is it worth losing everything that you are in the process? - I think this is reflected in andrews dad looking on in almost horror at the finale, realising he’s lost his son to this utterly toxic world

"Are you one of those single-tear people?" Bullying of fictional characters is acceptable as long as it's hilarious.

The dynamic between the reactors are sooo different lol Hannah definitely has the better take.

bro really trying to defend Fletcher right till the end 💀

Hannah, you feel so deeply for this film becasuse you yourself are an artist. Your acting requires, training, practice, study, discpline and mentorship. Hannah could face this same situation from an acting teacher, especially a method acting teacher. So I can see her relating very deeply to "Whiplash".

This film is a masterpiece of cinema and music, all together.

This movie is so much darker then it's generally perceived. Andrews life by the end is nothing but serving Fletcher. He lost his girlfriend, he keeps his family at a distance, and the look his dad gives him at the end isnt of awe but of the reality that he has lost his son to Fletcher. By the end Fletcher gets his charlie Parker and Andrew gets nothing other than being "right" and that he had it in him all along. No girlfriend no friends no relationships. But Fletcher gets everything he ever wanted

Simmons performance is absolutely insane.. And with that said, you can push people to do their best without mentally abusing them. Love and respect is more powerful than hate and fear.

Hey Ash, I trained in futbol and basketball and I understand the need to be pushed beyond what we think we can achieve. But if that comes at the expense of our physical well-being or mental sanity the line is quite easy to cross. -------- I was not the best player when I played but I knew I was mentally tougher than 95% of the people I would play against. ------- This was in large part to the intense pressure of growing with a father who demanded perfection in all aspect of my life. I can see Ash having a similar type of father. So I relate to Hannah's reaction of this film, but I can also see Ashgan's perspective as well.

One of the best endings in the history of cinema..literally

Ash, how you managed to edit a music film reaction without the music and still make me feel like nothing is missing is beyond me. Thank you so much for another excellent reaction!

This is one of those movies that, whenever it's on TV, I just stop and watch.. and it NEVER EVER gets old. Absolutely brilliant in every way

The first time I saw this movie, a few years back, I was alone in my room, no lights on, it was late at night. I'll never forget the feeling of exhilaration in the end. I gave it a standing ovation in the middle of my room, I yelled bravo like I was in the audience, I wanted to throw red roses. I've never felt like that again watching the ending of a movie. Whiplash is flawless. This movie is God tier perfect. Loved your reaction.

Everyone sees the ending as a positive but it isn’t , the dad lost his son u can see in his face he’s worried and fletcher won … he got the great star student he wanted and didn’t care the effect it had on the kids

This film is such a parable… A Man says that he wants greatness… that he wants EVERYTHING. He is told he is too burdened, that he holds on to all the things that defined him from “before”. With every step, he sacrifices a part of himself. He leaves his home, and is without security. He forsakes his family, and is without community. He denies himself pleasures both of body and mind, and is without joy. He trades his soul for greatness, and is left with only himself. - The man stands at the end of his journey… alone, unloved, denied, and resolute… and believes that he has everything.

Fletcher helping Andrew at 35:39 is my favorite moment in this entire movie! He was done with playing the tough teacher, and he put all the bullshit aside because in that very instant, he realized that he FINALLY found the next Charlie Parker, and he wasn’t going to let anything ruin it.

This consists of almost supernaturally expert direction (for a second film), writing (despite the implausibility of the concept) cinematography and editing (technical marvels). What a remarkable film.

The kid played 90% of the drums featured in the movie. I saw this movie entirely different than most people. A lot of people think the kid won and got back at the instructor, but he didn't. The teacher's EXTREMELY toxic teaching methods worked and were proven once again. Fletcher CREATED Andrew and that's sad. Even the fear in the father's face at the end let us know that he has lost his son.

Ash's insecurity is the fuel that propels this glorious machine. This opening sequence is essentially the thesis to that theory!

I like that this film highlights the dark side of greatness. That many people who are great at something, often got that way because they are obsessed with it to a level most people don't understand. That it takes a toll on their life and so on. The history of great musicians is littered with troubled minds, short lives and so on, but they do produce music that goes on for ages and across generations.

Ash is like "why are you crying", bro, imagine your hero almost killing you with a chair, slapping your on the cheeks and screaming like crazy, not exactly a fun situation😂

I remember not wanting to really watch this when my friend told me about it but by the end we were both floored and speechless. Amazing movie

"He's sacrificing his humanity for greatness." Totally agree. The moral of the film is: is it worth it? Would you rather be Kurt Cobainn dead at 27 feeling hopeless, but be remembered? Or would you rather live to 90, with a long marriage and maybe kids and grandkids who love you and die feeling fulfilled. Does greatness trump all? That's the struggle.

I love how emotional Hannah gets, she's such a beauty to watch and it's amazing to see someone so invested and in tune with the movie they're viewing. She's also so funny! And you, Ash, are hilarious to watch as well and it's cool how hype you get as it shows your passion for films.

One of the greatest movies ever! Miles Teller is one of the most underrated actors of all time

38:09 the respect and affirmation Ash was giving to Hannah there was relationship goals

It took me forever to convince my dad to watch this movie cause as soon as i said it was about a drummer he immediately lost interest. I FINALLY got him to watch reluctantly and now its one of his favorite films.

Many people don't understand the ending. The dad first looks at the performance in awe but it comes fear. Fear of a monster Fletcher has created. Fletcher won in the end.

I've just realized something while watching your reaction for the tenth time: Fletcher said that his former student, Sean Casey, died of a car accident instead of him committing suicide, because it would have obviously pointed him out for hazing Sean, but everything which led to the ending of Fletcher's teaching career stemmed from Andrew Nieman ACTUALLY getting into a car accident, which is a weird existential irony, because the lie about a former student's death is how his current student accidentally exposed him... As Ash would say: "Symbolisms"

“You need that teacher.” As someone currently getting their doctorate in music education, no you absolutely do not. There are ways to push your students to achieve more than they thought they ever could without breaking them so badly they take their own lives, or attack you. Greatness can be achieved without it costing human lives and sanity. Also, it’s a bass; not a cello. Anyway, I love y’all’s reactions!

The only movie I can think of where the protagonist and antagonist both lost, and were both happy about it.

Best fricken ending! This movie was so satisfyingly exhausting 😂☝️😝

I feel like there’s a difference between having a firm teacher and an abusive teacher.

Absolutely incredible movie. One of the best endings ever.

I love how Hannah literally had Fletcher sussed after the first scene

I think Ash totally misunderstood the point of the film. It was not about needing someone to push you to be the best. It was about abuse of power, about gaslighting, about someone destroying anothers person life for selfish reasons. It is a fantastic movie, but let's not forget Fletcher was a horrible person at every step. A psycho, an asshole, an awful person all around. The impressive thing is that Miles character succeeded DESPITE Fletcher, not because of him.

One of the reasons I love your channel is because you both seemingly represent the duality that lives in me: the comedic and the dramatic While simultaneously feeling bad for Nieman, I was still laughing at Fletcher's antics... Yes, Fletcher did go too far, but at the same time, mediocrity only breeds weakness.

One of my favourite Patreon full lengths reactions I've watched. Amazing movie and fkn amazing reactions from y'all.

It's pretty obvious that Ash is a really good person. That said, can you imagine him as a schoolteacher or a principal? The bullies would be making fun of the fat kids and he would be busting out laughing.😂

Yeah I’m pretty sure that your not supposed to leave this movie with a great feeling. The way that Andrew looks up at fletcher still wanting his approval should tell you that something is still very wrong with the whole situation. His dad watching him looking terrified at what his son has become is another sign of how this isn’t supposed to be a positive ending. The director even said that he imagined that after the movie ended Andrew would die sometime in his 30s from a drug overdose. Yes he became great, but what kind of person did he become after and was it worth it? If anything it just shows how good and well thought out the movie is.

Im with Ash, I never liked Jazz but this movie is in my top 5 easy. Probably the greatest movie that exemplifies the line that teeters between passion, obsession & addiction.

Buddy Rich once had a heart attack, mid drum solo, and didn't miss a beat. You can really see that kind of drive in this movie.

Dude, your girlfriend's kindness, empathy, intelligence and positive attitude, not to mention being mindblowingly gorgeous - that's the kind of girl to fall in love with, treat her well, listen to her and not let go. Btw. that movie is one of the best one in a long time.

The craziest part of this movie for me is that it was the director's first feature film.

When Hannah said "the chopsticks would be up in the air" I lost it🤣I knew you guys would love this film as it doesn't mess around or hold anything back. Honest, unsparing and frightening. And the 'Cymbalisms' mate!!!

Miles Teller taught himself to drum for this film. Also there's a brilliant video about how nearly every scene in this movie is a battle of sorts, to create tension, its amazing. Great movie and awesome reaction guys, you crack me up all the time plus you're very insightful.

Thanks a ton guys. You guys are the only ones I’ve seen that don’t see Fletcher as a straight up villain, and more gray than the black and white everyone tries to make it seem.

I knew you both would absolutely love this film!!! Its the directing, the music, and powerful acting that makes this a cut above the rest! Well deserved his best actor award for this.

I just watched this for the first time last week. I was blown away by the Miles Teller and Jk Simmons performances.

I really appreciate Ash's excitement and perspective for great movies lol. This movie is brilliant and flawless to me

J.K. Simmons is an incredible character actor, but is more known for his comedic rolls. However, in “Whiplash” he is the most damnable villain I’ve ever seen, but those last scenes when he truly appreciates the drumming as brilliant and you see it so clearly in his face . . . Wow! He earned his Oscar!!!

He was abusive in the way he pushed him because he did believe in him and didn't want to get rid of him. You saw how he easily got rid of others at the start. It was his messed up way of caring.

The level of acting and dirrecting in this movie is 10/10 masterpeice u cant beat this movie

This film has Ash losing his ever loving mind all over it and Hannah getting accidently battered by him and having to restrain him, Can't wait to see the mania!!

This is one of my favorite movies of all time. It also won best editing and was a huge reason I went into editing 2 years later. The acting is brilliant, the story is amazing, and the intensity of that last performance is IMPECCABLE!

"this man is gonna grow hair in a second" got me legit laughing so loud

Oh man I literally was wanting you two to do a reaction video to this movie yesterday 😂. What are the odds of that!

If you love this movie, you'd love 'Buried' - a movie set in 1 location (inside a coffin) with 1 actor, for maybe the fastest 90-minute movie ever made. It's criminal Rayan Reynolds didn't win best actor that year.

It’s interesting to see different people’s takeaways from watching the same movie. I’ve always seen this as a film about surviving an abusive, manipulative relationship (student teacher relationship in this case). I can see the point about hard work and pushing someone to be better but Fletcher sprinted past that line into abuse and despite any success that may come after the movie ends, I’ve always wondered what damage it did to Neiman psychologically. I feel like as he grows up and advances in his career, even if he becomes the worlds best drummer, every time he makes even the slightest mistakes he’s gonna be waiting for that chair to get thrown at his head again.

This is one of my favourite films of all time..also my thoughts at the end of this movie was the same Neiman's father had seeing him descend into madness/ ascend into greatness..we could see him proud and amazed at seeing what his son could do for the first time in his life but also absolute horror and concern at seeing the pain and madness and lengths his son has put himself to to achieve this and it overall sums up how i feel about it..

The following is an interview with the director that definitely puts the ending of the film in a much more darker light: Where do you think these two go after this movie ends? They had a moment at the end of the film, but I feel these two will always hate each other. Director: I think so. I think it's definitely a fleeting thing. I think there's a certain amount of damage that will always have been done. Fletcher will always think he won and Andrew will be a sad, empty shell of a person and will die in his 30s of a drug overdose. I have a very dark view of where it goes. That should have been a postscript at the end of the movie, "And at 30, he dies of a drug overdose." That would be great, right before the credits, "Oh, by the way." It's a post credit thing, like the Marvel movies. It's his funeral. And Fletcher is there. He gives the eulogy. "That ungrateful f***ing brat."

The final scene is some of the BEST editing ive ever seen in a film.

You guys definitely have a knack for spotting out really good acting so I’d love to suggest There Will Be Blood which has some crazy and amazing performances by some of the best actors ever

The first scene into the movie and Hana already has the old guy figured out wtf why is she so good at doing that

THIS IS ART! FROM MOVIE TO MUSIC IN IT!

In the end... Fletcher created a monster. By being monstrous to this young fellow. And a fictional sequel goes about a passionate musician getting drowned in drugs and a young death. 30 years later there comes a biopic of a tragic musician story full of ambition and sorrow.

This was my introduction to your channel, and you killed it. It's one of my top five movies for sure, and I think I felt a lot the same way. I'm not a drummer but this hit my soul. Really enjoyed watching you two react to it. I'll be checking out some more for sure. ✌️

I love that you guys got this so wrong for so long. Heh. The film draws you in and then clobbers you with toxic leadership. Mind you, I don't think Ash ever understood this film.

I've watched people reacting to WHIPLASH dozens of times, and one thing that ALWAYS happens and always stands out to me is: Women identify toxic/inappropriate/bullying behavior straight away and always call it out for what it is... unacceptable. Period. Now, men, on the other hand, never quite get the gist of it right away, they always start absolutely loving the professor's obviously disgusting behavior. All the guys that watch this film say "this guy is fucking awesome. He's strict because he cares", blah, blah, blah. Some of them come to realize that the professor is abusive only towards the very end of the film, but LOTS of them watch the entire thing and finish the movie STILL praising the professor. And I know it seems like I'm exaggerating or making something out of nothing, but I firmly believe this small sample really tells the story of how men and women are socialized drastically differently. And NOT in a good way. Men, in general, have SO much emotional maturity to catch up on. They are always SO behind women when it comes to being emotionally and socially developed, which is unacceptable, because, most times, women are the ones that have to suffer the consequences for men's lack of emotional regulation.

Perfect reaction to the ending of this movie. Some people need to think about it for a while but you guys got it RIGHT away, completely. Perfect! 👏

I always get chills at that last shot with the closeup of Fletcher & Neiman.

Hey Ash! I was wondering if you ever thought about getting two pairs of earphones to hear the movies in stereo? It could make the experience even better for you guys, a lot of them have the amplification of external sound aswell so you'd still be able to hear each other. Anyway love your videos, bought myself your full length reactions on patreon, definitely worth it!

I can't stress this enough: YOU HAVE GOT TO WATCH BLACK SWAN. Another INCREDIBLE and twisted story of the quest for perfection in an artistic world (ballet). Super dark and with an incomparable performance by Natalie Portman. Amazing reaction, btw. Love your videos and your insight!

22:29 ash - "why have I pissed you off?" hannah - "I don't know yet"

16:11 “don’t cry about it and move on” while I understand the sentiment, I think that’s partly the opposite of what this film is trying to depict. Andrew is being verbally, emotionally and physically abused, and if he isn’t allowed to cry at that then that’s so wrong on so many levels. Crying is a normal response, it doesn’t make you weak, despite what other men (and women) say.

I absolutely love this movie. It's so intense and builds suspense in all the best ways! I'm curious if Ash thinks this is better than Good Will Hunting or Dead Poets Society lol

How has Ash only 85k ? literally with no biases he and hannah should have atleast 500k ?

Ashkan: "Why have I pissed you off?" Hannah: "I don't know yet."

What’s awesome is Miles Teller has been playing drums since he was 15. And he took lessons for 4/5 hours a day, three times a week to prepare for the film. Most of what we see is really Miles playing. I think it’s about 80/20, 80% miles and 20% editing and backup drummers. Which is crazy because a lot of that drumming is some of the highest tier drumming on film. JK Simmons also played piano and retook lessons for his role. Absolutely amazing movie, as someone who played music since I was 5 it is brutally accurate.

12:48 “Bird” directed by Clint Eastwood is also a fantastic musical film 🎷🎬🍿

The word you two are looking for to describe JK Simmons’ character is *obsession*. He is so obsessed with the idea of perfection that his intensity bleeds into everything he does, and rubs off on Miles Teller’s character, eventually overcoming him and turning him into a younger version of himself.

Love both of your reaction videos. Great personalities & Ash your charisma is fantastic. Watching here from Canada 🇨🇦❤️ Bless you both

Your channel is still the best Ash. Need more videos from you two! The intros, banter, and the way you guys get into it makes these videos some of the best in the genre. Shout out! Been here since your squid game reaction and been subbed since recently after that. Once I can I will def buy your patreon you deserve it

Legitimately can't believe how good of a movie this is. Seriously insane.