Bill “if you redo his career 20 times” Simmons

Russillo on Roy Hibbert... “So basically because the other guy stands so far away I suck now.” Lmaooo

These redraftables have been the highlight of 2020

Ryen always sounds like hes arguing with someone even if they are saying the same thing lol

This is probably one of the most talented draft classes ever and also one of the most disappointing.

You play D Rose's career 20 times he has a severe knee injury 19 times. It wasn't about the way he played, it was about the way he planted and landed.

Pre-ACL tear Rose vs. Westbrook wasn't even a debate it was Rose by a country mile.

What screwed Kevin Love the most was management in Minnesota They could have had curry, Paul George, kawhi and a lot of other really good players in subsequent drafts but fucked it up every time

BILL: If Eric Gordon went to any other team he would have had a much better career. **Drafts Eric Gordon to the Clippers anyways**

I am from Chicago and saw Derrick Rose play in high school. He was a legend. I used to hear whispers of his greatness and the one game i saw he crossed a defender literally almost into the stands.

7k more points? Damn Westbrook murders this class 😂😂😂

I can't believe Hibbert didn't even get picked. I take him 7th or 8th. In the 2013 playoffs, he started 19 games and put up a 17/10 with 2 blocks a game and outstanding defense for an Indiana team that came one win away from the NBA Finals and YOU DIDN'T EVEN PICK HIM? Unreal.

I loved watching Derrick Rose those first 3 years in Chicago. His game winner in Boston Game 1 that first year made me fall in love with the game as a high schooler.

Bill saying Love wasted his talents even tho they won in Cleveland is bizarre. You think Kevin would rather continue being a 20-10 guy on perennial losing teams? Doubt it.

Seeing Rose resurgence in the last 2 years, i'd still gamble and take him pick #2. If he didn't got injured like he was, I could totally see him getting a ring.

The way Rose was able to orchestrate the offense with such control, be it scoring or dishing, during his peak year was amazing.

Been so excited for this redraft

Love the Pero Antic shoutout @41:23. That Pacers-Hawks 1-8 series really did foreshadow the stretch 5 era even though the Hawks couldn’t quite pull off the upset

I'm already getting pumped for Embiid vs. Jokic in the 2014 draft.

I love these "redraftables". It's interesting hearing the players' career recaps, and they do it with dry humor, but in a respectful way. I wish they would record the full 30 of the first round.

These segments are great, I do wish that the fit of a player on the team was taken into account. These feel like more of a ranking of each player per draft instead of actually redrafting and giving how they would benefit they team they are drafted to.

Dragic was pretty low ... somehow they say how underrated and undervalued he is but yet stick him at #9 ?

Bill made a really good point about young kevin loves rebounding but I can honestly say I never remember him having quick feet ever in his career defensively

Love these redrafts. It would be interesting to see these redrafts in print showing a 1 year, 5 year, and 10 year redraft of each class. With so many drafts, the order would change with a lot of late bloomers.

This is a UCLA draft. Should have never fired Howland we haven’t sniffed Final 4 since

I don't see how you don't take Hibbert tbh. For a good 3 years he was not only an all-star and a DPOY candidate, but also LeBron's biggest stumbling block, and he could easily have been the key piece of a championship team. I'd take those three years over Robin Lopez's entire career any day.

Russell Westbrook is the consensus number 1 pick in this class, but two and three? I would go for Derrick Rose personally over Kevin Love, but I won't argue with anybody taking Love. Who knows maybe Rose does not get hurt in another team and fulfils his potential as a great rival to Russ.

Simmons says "I hate that Love went to Cleveland, he was wasted there" then 1 minute later says "if Kevin love is your best player putting up big numbers you're not winning many games" Not sure you can have it both ways Bill

08 was easily one of the most talented classes ever but i injuries and off court issues derailed guys like Beasley n rose

31:20 I was about to say...it was a blessing for him to learn under Nash

If Giannis got hurt Brook Lopez would go back to being pretty bad. He's a center who can't rebound. A shooter who can't shoot. And calling him mobile is one of the craziest things I've ever heard.

this was the most entertaining redraft you all did. Thanks for the jokes. Some you did on purpose others were very inadvertent. PS Pekovic was a damn good center for a short period.

Bills laughed at DJ im dead wtf that was bogus n funny at the same time

I would've taken Eric Gordon > deandre Jordan

Disappointed in both of their takes on D Rose. Rose is still playing now, so it’s absurd to say he let the ACL injury defeat him.

I call this class the all shit knees class every all star from this class has had knee problems at some point

I love these redrafts, but I swear Ryen Russillo is doing these video feeds from a prison. Dude's house looks so empty lol.

They were pretty harsh on the role players at the end of this list. Most of the guys they made fun of were/are better than a bunch of guys they've taken 10-14 in the other re-drafts

This was a really interesting class. Your now entering the territory where you'll need to project (or guess) how each players career will end. It should be interesting to see if D. Jordan has a resurrection with KI/KD.

What an amazing series

Kev Love to Miami actually would have been cool. They would have got him right into shape and he would have complimented Wade

Okay saying Love going to Cleveland was a mistake is goddamn absurd. Yes he was a 20-10 machine in Minnesota, but he also was on a perennial losing team and never had that greater success. He goes to Cleveland, gets a ring and becomes a contender for years. I'm sure Kevin values that more than any stat.

As a big Italian fan, I am biased - but I honestly think that Gallinari without injuries could have easily evolved in 25-8-5 kind of guy in a top-5 NBA team in his prime (not the best player of the team maybe, but second best or third best). His first 2-3 injuries really slowed him down. But his mix of ,powerforward frame, all-around offensive game (high level spot-up shooter with the ability to handle the ball and post), defense skills that do not hurt your own team could have helped a lot of teams and easily complement a lot of NBA superstars. Also, NBA fans probably did not see him with the Italian national team, where he often is producing volume scoring, playmaking, defense, and has also moments of leadership and clutch.

The DJ augustine and Javale part was hilarious

This my new favorite channel tho what a idea

My only complaint with Bill’s analysis is that he is using still FG% in this era and doesn’t even mentions EFG% and TS%. He is one of the best still though

Even though Kevin Love is always hurt now and on the wrong side of 30 I still think he's going to have a semi resurgence year next season. Depending on the offseason Cleveland has I can see him leading them to like 45 wins. That team just needs some wing defenders to make up for that back court.

You guys should redo the 2011 draft, it was considered a weak draft, yet it turned out to be one of the strongest in my opinion with guys like - Kawhi Leonard (15th pick) - Kyrie Irving (1st pick) - Klay Thompson (11th pick) - Kemba Walker (9th pick) - Jimmy Butler (30th pick) - Isiah Thomas (60th pick) - Tobias Harris (19th pick) - Markieff Morris (13th pick) - Marcus Morris (14th pick) - Tristan Thompson (4th pick) - Iman Shumpert (17th pick)

Also, shout out Bill, who makes a Celtics reference on every pick in this series, but choosing to ignore Kelly Olynyk cross armbreaking Kevin Love in the 2015 playoffs, costing that first Cavs team a true shot at Golden State. I still think GSW would win, but after Love and Kyrie go down, it's not even fair.

Love this draft i do in general bc reminds me of guys havent thought about in awhile but alot of these guys actually still in the league one of the better drafts of last 20 years.

The Russel Westbrook aging well argument aged very poorly

Rose, Westbrook, Love. Other PGs were considered second tier with Rose before his injury. Bulls gave the Heat all they could handle. Disagree injuries defeated him. Worked really hard to come back and is now enjoying a Grant Hill-esque second career. What happened to the 'good player bad team' analogy? Wolves best season with Love was 40 wins, and that was a clear outlier.

In my opinion Derrick Rose getting hurt change the dynamic of the nba. Had he stay healthy i don't think lebron would have gone to 8 straight finals, the bulls would not be in this rebuilding situation their in now and probably have at least two championships to their name.

Other than Westbrook, everyone else under preformed. So much talent, never materialized.

D Rose first 3 yrs in this league was outstanding. No other Point Guard's wanted to guard him b/c they feared him. It's unfortunate when he hurt his knee during the playoffs. His trainer's should have had him doing Drop Landings training, & other landing exercises from different angles to properly teach him how to land properly during an uncontrolled environment in the game of basketball. Zion needs to learn how land better also being so explosive. I'm happy D Rose resurrected his career & making postive winning contributions to the team. He's a Winner & Hall of Famer to me.

Brook didn't have great rebounding numbers but you will notice generally his team rebounds when he is on the floor because he boxes out 2 guys.

Made My Day Bill!

Going into draft night this looked like one for the ages, while 2009 looked like a letdown. Must be a lesson in there somewhere.

I’m still taking D rose #1

That Toronto front court in 2019 was absolutely brutal. And Valanciunas was already a decent player even then. But when they traded for Gasol to upgrade defensively and could rotate between Gasol, Ibaka, Siakam, OG and Kawhi, how did anyone score against them? Obviously OG wasn't as good as he is now but that's an insane 5some to try to score against. Let alone the fact opponents had to deal with Lowry at the point of attack in the first place.

Honestly I wouldn’t bed mad if they went through 30 picks. These are gold even still 2 years later

God bless you

Simmons: “Kevin Love, to me, if he’s putting up huge stats I don’t know if you’re winning.” Also Simmons: “Kevin Love was overqualified to do what he did in Cleveland and he should’ve stayed by the basket more.” I mean, what did you want him to do? Be an offensive fulcrum on a team that never wins? He did that already.

If rose doesn't get hurt, he's 1 or 2 but klove has proven he is the number 2 pick in this draft.

Roy Hibbert is the worst player to ever make an all-star team. And he made two...

After this re draft series is done rank the teams with the new players

I think the best way to put it was Rose had a hall of fame peak but not a hall of fame career.

Would’ve had rose in Miami. Imagine him teaming up with D Wade. Alongside having close access to Tim Grover, arguably the best trainer in basketball who trained D Wade and Kobe. He would’ve recovered much faster or wouldn’t have gotten injured at all.

Love underrated he fit into whatever role his team needed him too and he doesn’t really have weakness could have played in any era imo

As a lifetime Chicago resident, I can tell you straight up knowing what I know now I'd still take DRose number 1.

I would put Gallo and Dragic ahead of Lopez and D-Jordan but agree with the top 3 order

STILL take Rose #1. Pre injury he was the pg Lebron.

kevin love on the spurs is winning and is probably a 1st ballot hall of famer. he would've beeen used right by a coach who appreciates the inside game.

That Brook Lopez pick has aged well! As of 2021, he's got as many rings as Rose, Westbrook, and Love combined.

Russ- makes you afraid to watch Rose- makes you afraid to watch Love- afraid

Gallo had another one of those years helping a team be better than they should the very next year after this where he helps take the hawks to the conference finals

Being from chicago and knowing how big rose was for the city , and how good he was at his peak , i don’t think the bulls ever draft russ ahead of him. Even a redraft would be rose i’m positive

Wow I hadn't heard the name J.D. Drew in a long time.

its fun seeing what they saying now to the state of the players now like westbrook batum etc

stupid question but if rose stayed healthy.. he would be number 1 right?

Kick out Batum for Dj, and put in Hibbert at #12, you pretty much got it right otherwise. Hibbert had a pretty good peak as a rim protector, even if he did become a liability once every center started shooting 3s, he has enough good years from 2008 to warrant him being picked over some of these other guys I think.

Augustine and McGee was hilarious

In a world that exists where Derrick rose doesn't get hurt, no point guard today, and I mean none, wants to see him.

These are just Russillo reading season averages for 40 minutes

My favorite draft class. Probably the 3rd best of this century behind ‘03 & more well-rounded than ‘09 but lacks the star power.

I'd take D rose first and immediately force him to change his jumping and landing mechanics

Imagine clowning a point guard that hit a game winner on a championship team in the playoffs

It’s not fair to say that D Rose “let the injuries beat him” he lost his explosiveness. Russ does have the drive to recover from an injury like that but no one knows how bad the injury derailed D Rose except for the man himself

I’d love to see Love traded to a really good team (Celtics?), come off the bench or play as an unsized 5 (put long defenders around him...Celtics got that 🤷‍♂️)... Those offensive boards, long outlet passes and hitting open 3s...could still be really good and has always been a fun player to watch, because he always maximized his own abilities.

Dont forget Schroeder and Noel!

Every time the Thunder get brought up in one of these drafts I’m reminded of all the missed opportunities. That team should’ve figured it out at some point. Look at all the guys that Westbrook played with before he left OKC. I do think Kevin Love is an experiment they should’ve tried. They had a relationship already from college and K Love was a stud in his Minnesota days. Yes on a bad team, but he wouldn’t just forget how to shoot and rebound. Part of his production decline in Cleveland was how many touches LeBron and Kyrie needed and also injury. If it was him and Westbrook with a defensive stud and role players I think they could’ve been solid. Most likely not title winners, but a team no one wanted to play. Maybe a few Conference Finals appearances.

Man, this draft class was nice

My worst basketball take ever was liking the Joe Alexander pick

i feel like Lopez probably should have been a little better than he was given his size and skill. like he was never Lamarcus tier let alone KG, Dirk, TD, etc

d. rose man given how much athleticism he lost and how much of an adjustment he made to the reality of his career. really an incredible player and story

I would have drafted Dragic higher. This bubble showcased how valuable he truly is (I understand this was made before the playoffs)

I get what they're doing here, but true blue, die hard Chicago Bulls fans would take Derrick Rose 10 times out of 10. That's "our" guy, and the attachment to him is way more emotional than most other cities' attachment to a player.

Ooooh stacked draft....my Bucks with a chance to redeem themselves after the brainless Yi pick last year....annnnnnnd Joe Alexander. With a #6 and #8 pick in back to back years, we took two guys who TOTALED less than 7k minutes in their careers. Lovely.

I'm a laker fan and I'll admit a large portion of our fan base are asshats, but Bill is one of those celtic fans that is just blinded by his bias and it hurts his work.

35:10 that pick reaction, 100% accurate lol