The Basic Principles of War Propaganda: 1. We don't want war, we are only defending ourselves! 2. Our adversary is solely responsible for this war! 3. Our adversary's leader is inherently evil and resembles the devil. 4. We are defending a noble cause, not our particular interests! 5. The enemy is purposefully committing atrocities; if we are making mistakes this happens without intention. 6. The enemy makes use of illegal weapons. 7. We suffer few losses, the enemy's losses are considerable. 8. Recognized intellectuals and artists support our cause. 9. Our cause is sacred. 10. Whoever casts doubt on our propaganda helps the enemy and is a traitor.

Totalitarian state is not on Russia but in the US, UK and EU.

a lot of talks about Putin like he is a single person, forgetting that 85% of russians support him and that is almost 130 million people. if you try to understand why these people support him, what their interests are and where, you start to live in real world, where all wars could be avoided

Media propaganda is extremely brutal !

It is easier to fool a man than to get a man admit he has been fooled.

Very interesting, thank you. However, when you say “I don’t like Putin”, you keep one foot in the camp of the lie. You haven’t met him. Yet on paper he must be considered one of, (if not , the,) greatest political statesmen in history since the death of Moses. What he has managed to do for Russia in the last 24 years, despite Anglo-American pressure is almost miraculous.

Intelligent and brave professor. What a shame that Germany is punishing truth speakers. Kudos to this woma❤

Thank you, Ms Ulrike Guérot, for being brave and fighting for humanity.

What is happening to this lady makes one understand why educators across Swedish universities are silent.

Indeed, a doctor explaining cancer to a patient is not wishing cancer upon that patient; an economist warning about recession is not rooting for it; a meteorologist saying it will rain tomorrow is not hoping for rain.

Herzlichen Dank für diesen tiefgündigen Gedankenaustausch! Wie schade, dass derartige Gespräche nicht einer breiteren Öffentlichkeit kund gemacht werden.

As a 70 year old who grew up in the west and under constant fear mongering with regard to the Soviet Union, followed by the genocide committed by the west in Southeast Asia, and endless wars since then, I would say that corporate fascism is the thing that makes peace in Ukraine nearly impossible. This, and some other interesting issues, also makes peace in Gaza almost impossible. Propaganda is just a tool, a very effective tool, that the corporate fascists use against us, via the principal governments of the western empire.

Exactly. Any critical examination, discussion or analysis is cast as denial. Denial of a state-sponsored narrative -- and one which clearly benefits an elite few at the expense of many, which also must be denied.

As I am sure, no German has ever heard the factual story what happened in Kerch in Crimea during the world war II. The bridge today connecting Russia with Crimea is called Kerch bridge, because the bridge ends in Kerch. So, During the second world war the germans occupied Crimea. The people in The town of Kerch were reluctant to send their children to school, as they were scared of the germans. So, the germans told the population, there is nothing to worry, the children will be safe. So, the parents sent their children to school. So, in the first day, the germans took the children for a picnic near the forest. They gave the kids some pastry, sweets and drink. In 15 minutes all 243 children were dead, by the poisoned pastries. 3-4 children didn't eat the pastries, so they were still alive. So the germans gave them poison droplets straight in their mouths. So, those 3-4 children died too after 15 min. When the parents asked were are the children, the germans told them - they sent the children in wester European families, so they will be safe until the war is over. Why am I writing this my dear germans BECAUSE AFTER 80 YEARS OF THAT EVIL MURDER, NOW THE GERMAN MILLITARY OFFICERS WERE PLANING HOW THEY CAN ATTACK THE KERCH BRIDGE. SO EVEN MORE PEOPLE OF KERCH WILL BE HURT. ARE THOSE PEOPLE SANE, HAVE THEY LOST THEIR SANITY AND HUMANITY, JUST TO PLEASE THEIR ANGLO SAXON MASTERS. JUST UNBELIEVABLE

Bravo. Excellent presentation 👏👏

My father was Swedish and my mother was half Bavarian from Germany. I was born in Australia i am dissapointed with Germany how they are ruining their country. I think Germany should follow Austria and remain neutral and follow what is best for their citizens.

Extraordinarily impressive, engaging guest. Marvelous discussion.

A brilliant discussion. The saying "if you are not with us, you are against us" springs to mind. With the way society and attitudes are changing I'm glad I'm getting old!

Pascal thank you SO MUCH for having this interview with Ms. Guérot. This discussion just has to take place, the role of media manipulation and the awful propaganda that´s being force fed to us. What´s incredible is that the mainstream media are 100% in line despite the huge amount of narratives closer to the truth on alternative media. Wonderful contribution from your guest on how linguistic tricks are used to force one-sided thinking.

This wonderful woman is exceptional. I enjoyed your discussion together immensely👏 God bless you both and let's keep advocating & helping all to reconsider their thought structures before it's too late🙏✌️

Thank you a good thinker....thats why she was cancelled. She needs her own platform.

Whenever I find myself disliking someone I ask myself 'why?' I set myself the task to identify at least 10 valid reasons in 10 minutes for disliking that person. If I am unsuccessful I then turn inward to repair myself. My dislike of someone unjustly means the problem exists with me. When people say to me they dislike President Putin I ask why. What has he done? Tell me the reasons why? I also seek a comparison. For example ; I ask their view on President Obama. Always there are glowing reviews on President Obama. I then point out that President 'we tortured some folks' Obama is responsible for the death of millions of people all over the world. He was responsible for the overthrow of the Ukrainian government, the Bolivian government, etc. He started the sanctions on Venezuela. He dropped more bombs on African soil than any US President before him. He put the bullseye on Julian Assange. Etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc. What has President Putin done? Save his country from the ticks, leaches and vampires of the west? When the Soviet Union collapsed due to the successful plot of the US the west immediately started feeding and feasting on Russia's natural resources. President Putin brought an end to that. He got rid of the ticks, leaches snd vampires. The Russian people used to bow their head in shame at what their country had become. President Putin returned pride to the eyes and hearts of Russians. Is this why you don't like President Putin? Because he got rid of the western ticks, leaches and vampires? Because he returned pride to the Russia nation? Please... Look inward. Evaluate yourself. Who are you?

Thanks for this conversation. I am American and am a minority when it comes to seeing the world through a nuanced lens. We have been propagandized so effectively that we sadly believe anything our legacy media and duopoly tells us. I see similar issues here in the EU. It is hard to think for oneself only to be labelled anti-vaxx, Putin puppet, antisemite, Trumper or many other derogatory terms. But I can start each day knowing that I am at least less likely to be fooled by fear or anger than most of those around me. 🤷

❤!Absolutely!Thank you, for this brilliant discussion!

To understand the Western animosity toward Russia in general and the Ukrainian conflict in particular one should view Siberia as the grand prize Britain and Russia have been fighting over for a couple of centuries now. Perhaps one goes back to Kissinger and Brzezinski to see how, but to Mackinder’s “The Geopolitical Pivot in History” to understand why.

How people cannot see that your discussion is a replay of europe and the world in the 1930's and 40's to a certain extent...is astounding. There is nothing new here except that the nazis aare no longer just the germans, but europe, north america and in general the anglo-saxon world.

I like how she thinks and agree, and hope her ideas can be shared with the masses.

Anyone who can get you to believe in absurdities can make you commit atrocities. ---Voltare

This explains a LOT - even the mere existence of the EU and its bureaucracy... Thank you.

Far from being a "psychopath" Putin is one of the few leaders in the world today acting from rational...predictable...premises. As Mearsheimer might have added, since at the latest 2008, and the overtures to Ukraine and Georgia to join NATO, Putin's "red lines" have been clearly stated. The West totally, and often insultingly, ignored these warnings.

Another brilliant discussion . Blinkered thinking is affecting my friendships . Regards from Gifu

what a brave and clear headed lady . Thanks !

Fantastic interview; such an original thought leadership should have a much wider audience. - her perspective on diversity of categorical loss ; - fear as a weapon; - one-up man ship by claiming Ukrainian language requirement to study Ukraine; - comparison as a tool between world events; - Covid as a state recuse to removal of thought structures; - The lack of pagination or spatial knowledge path when using the web; - Digitization as a targeted dumbing down of thought.

never has a hour gone faster, so thank you very much and I look forward to your next conversation. Greetings, an Indian/Norwegian writer.

Excellent interview.

Fascinating subject. I'm still very confused is. Why is the world ignoring the last 10 years of genocide committed by West Ukraine In East Ukraine? It's well known and well proven and yet we call the Russians the bad guys for freeing people from constant discrimination and murder by the Ukraine Army. I'm only an ignorant Australian born Russian. I do not call myself Australians because there is no such race called Australia. I still speak a little Russian from my childhood of learning Russian before English. Why do so many people hate Russians? I don't remember doing anything bad to any country or race. What is the real objective? I now live in Canada and I'm frightened to tell anybody I'm Russian descent. I have suffered anti Russian discrimination all my life. I'm either a commie or something else . I didn't create these wars. Why are we all pigeon holed?

Thank you, Pascal and neutrality studies! Excellent work and translation.

Fabulous level of analysis. Thank you both.

This was a brilliant conversation. The Professor was hoping to incite further studies into our thinking processes, and I would like to point out that there is a 2500 year old method that is unparalleled - Buddhist philosophy. The foundation of Buddhism is to question the mind, see that we are not the mind - neither our thoughts nor our emotions. It is the best way to stay aligned with truth and sanity 🙏🏻

There is one situation in history that showes how a country turned 180 degrees in a day. Look for 1948 and Informbiro resoulution in Yugoslavia. It is considered higly controversial move and Tito's critics were using it to show his dictatorship, but today, looking at it, it was the only way to avoid what happened to Yugoslavia in the 1992-1999 - destruction and placing the border between two powers in the middle of it, like it was in centuries. Now EU didn't use the destruction of northstream pipe lines to turn it's politic for 180%, or even for 18% :))) It is going to be dismanteled. A country needs highly inteligent leaders. We don't have them, we have only highly corrupt ones.

Excellent discussion. Both of your words free my heart and mind. Fundamentalism is the root of all evil.

Thank you! Such a pleasure to her calm and smart people. Excellent analysis!

Speaking Ukrainian nowadays in the western political and media circles, means "Can you say Putin is an evil dictator?". The same goes for speaking Jewish, "Do you condemn Hamas?".

Well the Ukrainian civil war was already going on for 8 years in 2022- it started in February 2014 after the empire led coup.

Time to burst some the "bubbles" in which certain people reside - Politicians - "sometimes people dislike the fact that we have to make difficult decisions" The people - "No, you are universally despised precisely because you frequently and deliberately make bad and wrong decisions. And accept no responsibility for doing so." Pop, pop, pop !!!

Ukrainians everywhereshould call for the reinstatement of President Yanukovych, the only Ukrainian leader that BOTH sides can trust to preside over a neutral buffer state.

I’d like to say that as a NewZealander it is refreshing to hear such a rational discussion.We don’t get much unbiased coverage down here.

None of this matters. Since the foundation is ignored no conclusions can be valid. Europe has made itself irrelevant, by following US dictates Europe is lost its markets, independence, and future. No one talks about the origins of the Ukraine conflict in Europe, since the origins are important and how all events followed from the US regime change and removal of democracy of Ukraine 8 years before Russia responded. No one is addressing the installation of an radical extremist faction that never had more than 1% of support, remnants of the Nazi movements. Russia had legitimate fear of a US aligned Nazi force on its borders while slaughtering the people of Donbas for 8 years before Russian's patience ran out. The US goal has been to break up Russia into smaller weak countries and taking control of resources it seeks. The result has been the entire unipolar world run by the US has broken in two factions, the US and its vassals of Europe, Canada, Australia and Japan, on one side and the the Global South on the other. The later group of nations are almost all growing, produce the majority of innovations and patents, have little debt and majority of world population. Russia is being seen as the defender of this larger portion of the world population which was held back and controlled by European imperialism that impoverished most of the world. The simple fact that trade, innovation and population favors this global south. Europe can argue all it wants but it is rapidly becoming unimportant in world affair, it has deindustrialized, become weak and become a voiceless vassal of a collapsing US empire. BRICS is on track to add 40 more countries into hat is already the largest trade block and which will not use the US dollar or euro for trade settlement. This division between the rising Global South and declining US empire with its declining vassals in Europe shifts the center of trade and innovation east again as it was for 4000 years before European use of gun powder enslaved most of the world and transferred wealth to the small constant warring countries of Europe. All of US vassal states are targeting Russia for destruction and bankruptcy but Russia is too united, strong and adaptive to be destroyed Europe and US, The US force called NATO has been shown to the world as weak so the number of ex-colonies rushing to align with the winning side, such as Africa, Middle East, South America and much of Asia. If a world wide poll was taken, there have been, the most respected leader is Putin, and second is Xi, and 3rd is Modi. No one in Europe is held in high esteem nor is Biden. The sanctions against Russia were not effective to the shock of the US and Europe and only revealed how the rest of the world wants to disconnect from Europe, and to be out from under the boot of the US which still has 800 foreign military bases used to control countries and yet can't reverse the trend of countries moving to become independent of the US. A simple fact is evident, to anyone who has spend time in both Russia and Europe or US, quality of life, lack of debt, security, access to culture, education, personal freedom, low stress life, favors Russia now and that is why Putin was elected with 87% of vote in a society with over 40 main political parties. The vote reflected the true feelings of the people. But even your discussion in this channel suggested that it was not democracy because the people of Russia have a different view. Is there a single leader in Europe that has made life dramatically better? BRICS within 2 years will represent 78% world population and will not be trading with Europe or the US, so Europe needs to solve its own problems and not depend on the colonies for economic support like is has for 450 years.

The Western propaganda issue is like throwing a shovel to someone stuck in a hole. Two choices...dig yourself out or dig yourself deeper.

Thanks for the first class translation features btw

A talking point is a bias directive used in conversation... I live in the States. I am not a scholar but I know something about Europe as a result of the 1919 Treaty of Versailles, the re organization of Europe leading into WW2 and the Cold War from 1945 till 1990. When I try to explain that it is complicated because there is a lot of history here, I am met with hostility. "Well that was then and this is now!" or "Borders are sacred." The US corporate media describes the war in the simplest of terms. The Russian invasion of Ukraine was "unprovoked". What I find difficult and isolating are people's refusal to even listen to another point of view. In 2011, the cover of the New York Post had a full page cartoon sketch of Putin with dripping fangs reminiscent 1916 cartoons depicting the Hun.. I am not necessarily pro-Russian as much as I am worried about my own country..

To be American enemy is very dangerous but to be friend is fatal H. Kissinger

Excellent discussion (including Part 1.)

What-about-ism may be used to squelch criticism. Accusations of "what-about-ism" may reveal bias in that, the accuser only wants to talk about one side being guilty.

Thank you for the great guest!

Superb, as usual

How can rational choice institutionalism and normative institutionalism be meaningful if we disqualify historical institutionalism? The despotic politicians of Europe are destroying European academia!

Great discussion. We need more analysis at a fundamental level. Thank you!

Such a great and immediate translation, what a pleasure to listen to.

33:14 Ms Guerot i wish you well and thank you for your amazing brave insight. Thank you too Pascal

The problem is very simple why NATO had not beeun dissolved in 2'000, at that time Merkel was saying we need TVA paid by US Bases, Germany was in an economic crisis. Schroeder save Hanover by concentring next to the station, Insurance and Wealth company as the Hanover Fair, later he manage to obtain low cost energy from Russia and awake Germany and Europe.If Dombass is returned to Ukrain, what it do of it bombard it again.

The postulation that explaining the impetus behind Russia's incursion into Ukraine equates to somehow excusing their actions, is rather akin to accusing a constable of complicity in a crime merely for investigating its underlying motives.

Sehr erfreulich, Fr.Guerot mit Menschen ihrer Bildung und ihres Niveaus sprechen zu sehen. So bekommt man einen wirklichen Eindruck was diese Professorin gegenüber Sprücheklopfern, Maulhelden und Menschen auszeichnet, die Andere weder ausreden lassen, noch einer sachlichen Diskussion gewachsen sind. Weiter so, Fr. Guerot, wir brauchen Sie in dieser Zeit ganz besonders.

#1 lesson of German history. Don't attack Russia. Thank you for this reminder in the beautiful language that should be the language of peace for all time to come.

For anyone that want to have a bit more of the historical backgroud on the Ukraine conflict and the partizan role the EU played, please have a look at the discussion: "What JFK tried to do before his assassination w/Jeffrey Sachs" on the Real News network KZfaq channel.

This interview should be on main stream news very logical lady spot on .keep speaking young lady go go

Starting around 2004 my world view began to change (post Iraq) albeit slowly. I recall writing to The Times of London expressing astonishment at their support for the UK intervening in Libya. It was almost jingoistic the way that paper framed the justification for it. That change continued slowly as I tried to get a better understanding of historical events. Difficult given the nonsense I'd learnt at school and the articles I read in the MSM and watching the news on the BBC..... although I never trusted them very much after Libya. It was covid that really started me doubting things and since then it has sped up post Ukraine and now Gaza. I'm no longer the person I was in 2003. My world view has changed completely. In the process I had to give up many friendships. But that does not trouble me. It's more important for me to try to see the world more clearly. Certainly, having different sources of information like this channel is a great advantage in that. And I glance at the MSM but no longer take what they say to be gospel.

The last 20 min of this discussion is pure intellectual gold Thank you so much. I wish both of you the best Peace, love and light

An illuminating conversation. I remember Porfessor Guerot made a great impression at the Chautauqua Inst. here in New York state around 2015. As a lifelong student of Russian Lit. I have delved deeply into Russian history. I agree with her analysis. You must host her again, Pascal. Her work is very important. - Joe Frisina, BA Pitt (69 year old anti war protester).

Hervorragend!

Merci a vous deux! ❤

Loved this insightful conversation we need more of them.

An essential listen - especially for us Anglo-Saxons. Thank you.

Excellent interview Dr. Pascal Lottaz. The most contemporary mathematics is based precisely on the need for a plurality of perspectives to know or deeply understand a certain mathematical "object". Knowledge of a certain mathematical “object” or discipline is deepened and broadened by the new relationships that we discover between this “object” or discipline and other “objects” or disciplines. No longer a simply intrinsic understanding but an extrinsic one, an understanding of the relationships between “objects” or mathematical disciplines. This broader and deeper understanding is the heart of what we call “Category Theory”. Epistemologically this amounts to saying that relationships determine “objects” and not the other way around. To cite only two mathematicians and philosophers on this subject, I would cite Prof. Fernando Zalamea and Prof. David Rabouin. Greetings (Porto, Portugal)

It's so good to hear intelligent people speak!❤

As I wrote this comment elsewhere before; Putin did not and does not screw up as much as many western leaders and therefore Putin does not need "apologists" but many if not most western leaders do need as many apologists as they can get because they mess things up left and right.

You are spot on here ! I hate it when people think that explaining Russia's position is excusing it or even supporting the invasion ! They seem to be confused into thinking explaining is excusing ! Very frustrating. If you do not understand why your enemy is doing a certain thing then don't ever expect the war to be resolved not even with brute force because even if you win they will come back stronger for ever until the reason why they came is resolved and nobody attacks another country just because they ''hate you'' or they are ''blood thirsty Russians'', such terms are only good for propagandists who aren't interested in a intellectual debate or conversation. Although I totally understand why the average Ukrainian wouldn't agree and even hate the Russians but I have never seen or heard Russians say they hate Ukrainians but you often see Ukrainians think that Russians hate them and I would think so too if I was being invaded, I don't think I would be taking the time to look into the deeper cause of the war such as for example a group of people in a certain province of my country that would become disillusioned with a regime change or revolution that they did not support because it did not have as much respect for their particular culture or language ( as did those people when they were in control of society ) and got punished as a result of counter protesting by this new government and its supporters who may or may not have been brutal street thugs beating up any counter protesters and coming after them afterwards in the cities were they are most found as in the east of Ukraine for example. I think in the moment of the situation, if you supported the revolution and support the new system because it is a better one you think then its only normal to rally up behind the flag and believe the cause is worth the fight and not worry too much about the details but the devil is always in the details ! The reason why a whole country gets behind a effort to go to war are always profound and not just for land grab, something led to this and it isn't entirely the fault of Russia nor is it that of Ukraine nor is it that of the West, I think every one played a part in the reasons that led to this. It isn't just because ''Putin'', had it been another Russian leader with things playing out exactly the same, I think the result would have been the same ! I think Russia has gone way too far but that is jut my opinion.

No. The point is that there were countless ways of deescalating this conflict that had been going on since at least 2014 but what the US and western allies did was double down instead of pushing for a proper solution like a federalization and neutralization of Ukraine. This was a very very bad policy choice and has way more to do with using Ukraine against Russia than saving Ukrainian lives. Ukraine is being used against Russia and we know that because top NATO people say so („best investment we can make“ and stuff like that).

PL, please continue to conduct these conversations with Ulrike. I would like to see her continue to go to deeper levels. For example, who benefits financially from the type of information/behavior control she presents? Can change arise from "grass roots", rather than trying to expose the thinking of authorities?

Pagination is NOT gone on the Internet. Open each link in a new tab and - voila ! - you have a set of pages you can refer back and forth to and even print them out if you want to scribble notes.

It seems even those who have the courage to fight against imposed conformity feel the need to defensively qualify their position by way of appeasement. For example “ I think there is a different way to think about Ukraine/Russia- I don’t like Putin” or “We must stop the continuing genocide in Gaza - I don’t like Hamas”. On what evidence do we form those likes and dislikes…and why does it even matter to the discussion. It is somehow ironic to label another country undemocratic when the whole conversation has centered on how western discourse has become so tightly controlled that people are targeted and lose their livelihoods if they don’t march in lockstep.

28:40: Recognizing the shared responsibility in the conflict is the only way to peace: I find this statement very powerful, applicable to various past and future conflicts, incl. even WW2. Thank you, Dr. Guerot for stating it so clearly!

Great conversation 👏🏽.

The problem is the category of evil is not always inappropriate. More so than the category of good at least, in the political field. I certainly don,'t think there are any saints or angels in positions of political leadership (though I think both the catholic and the russian churches canonized as saints MANY people much, much worse than Vladimir Putin, by the way, so there's that). I think though that there are plenty of devils. Metaphorical devils, of course, but I don't think literal ones could possibly be worse. There are conflicts, indeed the vast majority of all conflicts throughout all of history, where there is no particular moral difference between the warring parties. This absolutely is the norm. But it is not universally true. All sides bear responsibility but not always equally. It's logical fallacy to assume that truth has to be in the middle between extremes. This confkict is one of those rare conflicts where there is no moral parity at all. But the problem is that it is the aggressive, imperialist West that deserves the overwhelming majority of blame and stands for what can hardly be truthfully described as anything other than evil. Telling people in the West that it was all just some kind of mistake is just continuing to lie to them. Being truthful would mean to admit that western "elites" have been knowingly, purposefully and maliciously lying all this time. Pretending that mistakes were made or that western elites are trapped in incorrct thinking does miss the point by miles. No western politician believes that Russia attacked Ukraine without provocation, because they know they all worked hard for many years to provoke just this wars. No western politician ever honestly believed they were acting in defense, they always wanted to attack and annihilate Russia, they just didn't want to be seen as firing the official first shot. This is completely typical of aggressors and ruthless megalomaniacal would be conquerors. Even Chinggis Khan thought it extremely important to insist that he never started a war without the other side using violence, breaking treaties or violating the sancticity of emissaries first. Conquering the known world just happened, almost by accident. Similarly the West(ern elites) hides the predatory lust for domination driving it's actual policies. The West never wanted peace, it always wanted world domination like a crazed supervillain and it always wanted to destroy Russia, because Russia refuses to submit to it and is an obstacle on the way to total, eternal domination. To claim that the problem is the population, that the population is what stands between us and the possibility of peace is dishonest and stupid. There is no influence of the population on questions of war or peace in the West. There is no meaningful democracy in the West, none. It's like arguing that Hitler could not have stopped the war because he had so propaganddized the people that the people would not have accepted peace eveh if Hitler had changed his mind, as if somehow the people at some illdefined point had taken over from the leaders as the true driving force behind the continuation of hostilities. But that never happened, not in world war II, not in the current conflict, nor in any conflict in history, period. Making peace now would just mean that the actual psychopaths, in positions of power in the West, presumably realized that they can't win the war they engineered right now and/or that the risk of them being themselves annihilated is for the moment too great. But the emphasis is on "for the moment". They will never genuinely want lasting peace, just time to plan their next attempt. So basically all the accusations against Putin suddenly start ringing true the moment they are turned against our own "leaders". And seeing as they are the ones who are psychopathic criminals they indeed need to be overthrown and punished, not psychoanalyzed or lectured on correct thinking. The talk about propaganda also misses the point, because the people in charge here know perfectly well that they started it and that they are lying and bullshitting all the time.

Lovely contributions

Excellent, thought provoking discussion. Many thanks.

Thank you for explaining all these created lies to dumb down the public, but the public don’t want the truth, it’s too painful.

"separate the brawlers" demonstrating her parental perspective, rather than a principled one. What about when it really is one side bullying the other?...... and perhaps they use the predictable behaviour of the oversimplified "separate-them/ceasefire" parent to their advantage by attacking the Other in tge full knowledge that the worst outcome is that mummy will split them up for a short time whilst he can sharpen his sword in preparation for his next attack. Jihad uses precisely this method.

Socialingenering 🎉🎉🎉🎉

And Thank you both very much for this amazing talk. I wish some of the EU leaders find this interview they may learn something.

You are the best Chanel thank you for the work you do

Zelensky said he believes Vladimir Putin will turn to Kazakhstan next, before moving on to the Baltic states, Poland, and Germany. "For him, we are a satellite of the Russian Federation," he told CBS. "At the moment, it's us, then Kazakhstan, then Baltic states, then Poland, then Germany. At least half of Germany."

Who is the French psychologist she mentions?

When all else fails.....they take you to war😢

Thank you for such an amazing interview 🙏🏼

I believe the real problem is trying to have a meaningful debate with people who are driven by bad faith. What's the point if your opponent's real goal is to distract you from the facts? You see this on Gaza, for example, where you're invariably an anti-Semite by suggesting that slaughtering children in hospitals might be wrong, so you end up defending yourself against a ludicrous charge instead, thus lending credence to utter nonsense. On Russia, the facts (by which I mean the daily, relentless provocations) are undeniable, which is why your opponent's goal is to distract you with nonsensical insults such as "Putin apologist", the goal being (you guessed it) to waste your time defending yourself against a spurious charge instead. So I blame those who naively attempt to engage with such malign distractions. Just report and focus on the facts, and ignore the bad-faith responses. I'm no great fan of Mearsheimer on certain issues (China being one example), but you'll never hear him waste a split second indulging his bad-faith critics' charge of "anti-Semitism" or of being a "Putin apologist".

One of the most important conversations I’ve heard in awhile. There is a fear of the truth on both “sides”. The need to displace one crisis with another is deep Orwell. That is where we are. Very refreshing and encouraging to hear what I’ve been feeling and seeing verified by worthy thinkers such as yourselves. Thank you . Danke.

An absolutely brilliant expert. Well done.

Thanks for covering this topic. Good luck Ulrike

One of the best talks on Ukraine and the media war so far