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Kodek

Kodek

Күн бұрын

7 years since 4J Studios and Minecraft Console Edition I talk about the age old debate. 4J Studios VS Mojang
I was sick while filming this video so that's why my voice sounds way more monotone than usual lol
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@kodekYT
@kodekYT Ай бұрын
This video got WAY more attention than I expected and that also means a lot of people have been asking why the video was so short 😅 This video really wasn’t meant to be a typical Minecraft KZfaq documentary but a shorter more straight to the point 4 minute video Thanks for watching and leave your comments below cause I do read all of them :3
@psychwardpussyeater
@psychwardpussyeater Ай бұрын
Brevity is the soul of wit man, others would have dragged it out to a 2 hour "video essay" so good job
@Shibe.
@Shibe. Ай бұрын
:3
@uliveulearnandregret
@uliveulearnandregret Ай бұрын
all you need to know is that on the xbox 360 version of minecraft you can just look at the crafting table and press the inventory/craft button and craft by proximity just like Terraria has it, but you have to look at the crafting table
@brightonslade8809
@brightonslade8809 Ай бұрын
Straight to the point? I'm sorry but i don't see any point that was made aside from you saying that mojang "can't do something" what is that something, what made 4j so different. Nothing in the video proved that, the only evidence i could find was those minigames and even then there are servers you can play for the same experience. I'm not mad or anything just confused, as all you did was waffle for four minutes straight saying mojang miss an opportunity, which is understandable but I'd like to know what 4j did and how there direction was better.
@kodekYT
@kodekYT Ай бұрын
@@brightonslade8809 damn just leave a dislike next time 😭
@Morilix
@Morilix Ай бұрын
4J Studios knew something Mojang still doesn't know to this day. They knew how to make a actual high quality console port that doesn't make you die from nothing :)
@justaguy2183
@justaguy2183 Ай бұрын
Why do people always blame on Mojang and not Microsoft? They probably wanted to port console in general but they couldn’t due Microsoft
@chamersyfish
@chamersyfish Ай бұрын
Blame Microsoft, mojang hasn't changed much since notch was a part of it, ever since micorosft owned it, they've been controlling mojang, essentially forcing them to do these things
@binksreviews
@binksreviews Ай бұрын
Legacy was not some perfect, smooth-running glitch-free experience, be so fr.
@bugatoli
@bugatoli Ай бұрын
Compared to bedrock 4Js port feels PERFECT. I played a pot of it in the past and then I started playing bedrock after not having played for a while and I immediately felt like something was off. It didn't feel like how java does and didn't feel like console edition either. It just felt wrong
@Insert6character4name.
@Insert6character4name. Ай бұрын
@@binksreviews With the exception of a bug with throwing loyalty tridents freezing your game sometimes, its performance is great, and most other bugs are useful or neutral so overall it pretty much is (coming from someone who hosts a server on legacy ps4 and has been playing primarily on the version for a while now).
@Elgi72
@Elgi72 Ай бұрын
I always though 4J Studios put more love into Minecraft than Mojang ever will.
@sidbutreal
@sidbutreal Ай бұрын
I don’t think it’s mojang, I actually think it’s Microsoft’s fault
@Bugplanet8840
@Bugplanet8840 Ай бұрын
@@rifter4478it’s not a joke. Current mojang is much worse than 4J studios
@Dingus_Films
@Dingus_Films Ай бұрын
@@rifter4478says the joke
@Noob-917yww
@Noob-917yww Ай бұрын
​@@Bugplanet8840its microsoft
@MagmaForce_
@MagmaForce_ Ай бұрын
​@@rifter4478greed and no consistency between old and new Minecraft
@typemasters2871
@typemasters2871 Ай бұрын
So in summary, what makes Console better than Bedrock is -better graphics -more world types (amplified + custome flatworld) -inbuilt mini-game modes
@Zvxers7
@Zvxers7 Ай бұрын
And advanced world creation options
@ProxiProtogen
@ProxiProtogen Ай бұрын
The classic textures are free on Bedrock...
@PhantomOfficial07
@PhantomOfficial07 Ай бұрын
@@ProxiProtogen programmer art texture pack is awful they haven't updated that in years. they didn't bother to make the textures not clash with the old style and they don't seem to care
@jvgradiz906
@jvgradiz906 Ай бұрын
And most of all NO IN GAME PURCHASES
@ProxiProtogen
@ProxiProtogen Ай бұрын
@@jvgradiz906 there was some lol
@ItsAubreeyy
@ItsAubreeyy Ай бұрын
Bedrock is literally just pocket edition but ported to everything
@grim_diamonds7290
@grim_diamonds7290 11 күн бұрын
ik I hate it
@fenn_fren
@fenn_fren 10 күн бұрын
Insane to think they're charging you to run a mobile version of the game on your state-of-the-art home console.
@slapshotjack9806
@slapshotjack9806 10 күн бұрын
It’s still better
@TonightTheMusicSeemsSoLoudd
@TonightTheMusicSeemsSoLoudd 10 күн бұрын
@@slapshotjack9806 It's fucking pathetic, everything is monetised with no freedom to download mods or create servers without giving money to microsoft, you even have to pay for your limited skin customisation options
@slapshotjack9806
@slapshotjack9806 10 күн бұрын
@@TonightTheMusicSeemsSoLoudd yo don’t have to pay for anything and console wasn’t moddable to begin with so get over yourself
@Thereal7dSeven
@Thereal7dSeven Ай бұрын
I feel like console edition has better textures, or maybe that's just the nostalgia.
@littlemoth4956
@littlemoth4956 Ай бұрын
It’s the nostalgia
@Sprigatitto740
@Sprigatitto740 Ай бұрын
It's probably nostalgia. But I love the aesthetic, even with 1.14 on PS4, you can still tell it's console edition
@drjian6852
@drjian6852 Ай бұрын
The new textures are overly-detailed for textures that are only 16 x 16 pixels wide, they have too many colors and it hurts the contrast by making blocks look like you've put a blur filter over them, not also counting the rules broken in the general pixel art sphere (banding, noise pixels)
@Sexgamer45
@Sexgamer45 Ай бұрын
It’s not the nostalgia, the old textures are just better. I know Minecraft can’t stay the same forever but the old textures were good, don’t get me wrong the new ones are very detailed but man… I miss the rocky texture of the nether. It was good castles, but when I convert an old world the castle just looks ugly.
@Thereal7dSeven
@Thereal7dSeven Ай бұрын
@@Sexgamer45 yeah, what I hate is when the changed the ore textures, they looked good before they were updated
@JadedRabbit559
@JadedRabbit559 Ай бұрын
What I miss most about Console Edition is the tutorial worlds. In addition to getting you started on the basics of Minecraft, they were a great showcase for what was possible to build. Just thinking about the original Xbox tutorial world is really nostalgic.
@Autumn-pr8ve
@Autumn-pr8ve 19 күн бұрын
It felt like there were endless possibilities, it felt so special
@eg_manifest510
@eg_manifest510 8 күн бұрын
finding the "secret village" to the left of the starting area and discovering a netherrack fireplace before even knowing what the nether was will always be a highlight of my childhood. My first house in creative mode was made with netherrack just cause my kid-brain thought it was so cool and mysterious
@jamesonthehills
@jamesonthehills Ай бұрын
i will still never understand why bedrock is built over pocket edition…A BUGGY MOBILE GAME…over the better fleshed out console version….
@DirectalYT
@DirectalYT Ай бұрын
It’s because of the light weight code that was used for pocket edition, I think it was c#
@realPurpleOrb
@realPurpleOrb Ай бұрын
​@@DirectalYTthey both used c++
@dooasf
@dooasf Ай бұрын
C++, C# was for the console edition. Surprisingly i found that most games based c# are more optimised than the c++ ones which is supposed to be better 🤷‍♂️ devs are lazy
@emilydavidson8844
@emilydavidson8844 Ай бұрын
It makes sense, they had crossplay between windows 10 and pocket, makes sense to have Xbox be there
@Lord_Chibi
@Lord_Chibi Ай бұрын
@@emilydavidson8844 except it took them forever to make it good, and even now the edition has a bunch of issues
@KirbywithaGun64
@KirbywithaGun64 Ай бұрын
The console versions also have one thing that Java/Bedrock didn't, manual saves.
@That1Shroom
@That1Shroom Ай бұрын
well i did find a mod that does add manual saves for java, although its trying to replicate legacy edition sooo :)
@wibs0n68
@wibs0n68 Ай бұрын
Practically you save manually in Java edition by pressing escape Edit: It did aave automatically in Java 1.2.5, idk about recent versions
@anthonypolanc0
@anthonypolanc0 28 күн бұрын
thats stupid , what if I want to press escape and not save?@@wibs0n68
@4isbestnumber
@4isbestnumber 16 күн бұрын
omg yes
@emmet042
@emmet042 7 күн бұрын
Not only manual saves, but also manual "exit without saving." Helpful for quickly reseting worlds after you and your friends decided to blowup everything just because. I don't play Java, so maybe this feature exists there? I wouldn't know, and no, I'm not googling it.
@AwesomeDrawer2017
@AwesomeDrawer2017 Ай бұрын
Personally, I think they could’ve made Legacy cross platform, if they made some changes it could’ve happened
@waytoobiased
@waytoobiased Ай бұрын
they would have needed infinite terrain for that
@lumnary7635
@lumnary7635 Ай бұрын
​@waytoobiased i think he meant having all the legacy editions be able to play together instead of only being able to play with those of the same console
@nicobiggamer8338
@nicobiggamer8338 Ай бұрын
@@lumnary7635it would have taken a lot of time, as every console was having minecraft legacy at its own rythm, and game was made differently for every console (maybe im wrong in this, correct me if That’s the case). But it would be absolutely awesome
@AnonTDegenerate
@AnonTDegenerate Ай бұрын
Not really. Sure, both use C++ but it would take extensive reworking to make it fit into a phone. Let alone how things like IOS need special tools for C++ code to run.
@Bolt451
@Bolt451 Ай бұрын
@@AnonTDegenerateno they’re talking about cross console not mobile
@pollo_470
@pollo_470 Ай бұрын
Just the fact that they put a tutorial world by itself shows how much effort 4J put into the game in comparison to bedrock imo
@DankPit
@DankPit Ай бұрын
Surprisingly they never touched on the UI and UX. It’s very apparent Mojang doesn’t know what a controller is by using the interface in bedrock
@fl414r
@fl414r Ай бұрын
Microsoft* Mojang work only on Java version with not support controllers at all
@xrafter
@xrafter 27 күн бұрын
​@fl414r Mojang have teams for java and bedrock and also for other games. The main developer for these game is mojang although they might not be the same developer teams under the nametag
@ForsetiAE
@ForsetiAE 27 күн бұрын
I prefer bedrock UI over console edition hands down. Took some getting used to sure but it's light-years ahead of console edition.
@poxbox6729
@poxbox6729 21 күн бұрын
@@ForsetiAE You can't be serious.
@ForsetiAE
@ForsetiAE 20 күн бұрын
@@poxbox6729 I'm 100% serious. I get why bedrock has that moniker but that was years ago.
@joshfoustcommunity8928
@joshfoustcommunity8928 Ай бұрын
I agree, Minecraft console edition is the best game on a technical level that’s unmatched from bedrock’s terrible mobile version, it will never truly see its full potential because of dealing with mobile platforms!
@MakuO0o
@MakuO0o Ай бұрын
It’s not really the fault of the mobile platforms, it’s the fact that Mojang just uses mobile platforms as an excuse to never do what 4J has done, people have made have shown them that it’s possible to do what 4J did for all platforms and they just say “mobile has limitations sorry”
@Roarywasnthere
@Roarywasnthere Ай бұрын
NOT EVERYONE CAN AFFORD A PC TO PLAY JAVA EDITION!!!!!!
@emilydavidson8844
@emilydavidson8844 Ай бұрын
Bedrock has rtx, enough for me
@MakuO0o
@MakuO0o Ай бұрын
@@emilydavidson8844 bedrock pcs with nividia GeForce rtx graphics can use rtx
@emilydavidson8844
@emilydavidson8844 Ай бұрын
@@MakuO0o yes I have an rtx 3060
@ejsuperstar
@ejsuperstar Ай бұрын
I miss the way 4j did menus. I struggle a ton to navigate the Bedrock Edition menus, crafting is a nightmare. I miss the old days.
@artifactU
@artifactU 6 күн бұрын
the sound effects & visuals of the menus were awesome, the bedrock edition menus are ugly & i wish bedrock never happened
@PassTheSnails
@PassTheSnails 5 күн бұрын
@@artifactU the wooden clicking sound effect on bedrock menus actually has me malding. Idk, it’s just annoying as hell. I think they’re on java too
@kidnappednapkin
@kidnappednapkin Ай бұрын
I grew up with ps3 minecraft and TO THIS DAY THAT IS THE BEST VERSION OF MINECRAFT
@joumaxu2629
@joumaxu2629 Ай бұрын
agreed
@Mike-F117
@Mike-F117 Ай бұрын
I agree. PS4 version ran better than ps3 version though. Until it became bedrock 🥲
@NeilBooth
@NeilBooth Ай бұрын
Ay bruh u ain't played on my java edition server yet, so there's a chance to change that
@humanoidshrek5524
@humanoidshrek5524 Ай бұрын
@@NeilBoothah yes your server alone will change his mind
@EdgieAlias
@EdgieAlias 16 күн бұрын
​@@humanoidshrek5524imo any Java server would lmao I just can't see the appeal of bedrock save for a few minor tweaks, like enchantment. That's not enough for me.
@ceo_reuben
@ceo_reuben Ай бұрын
"because we already knew that" caught me off guard lol
@TheHeroicBlockhead
@TheHeroicBlockhead Ай бұрын
I’ve made peace with bedrock since it came to Xbox in 2017, but legacy edition will forever remain the version of Minecraft that is most important to me. It’s also crazy how legacy edition is not very well known within today’s younger Minecraft audience.
@wibs0n68
@wibs0n68 Ай бұрын
Because it's legacy version And in an outdated console.
@NotJustDarth8074
@NotJustDarth8074 18 күн бұрын
The pixelated 4J, mojang and Xbox live logos are just pure nostalgic Just booting up the game and the first thing you see are those logos, didn’t mean anything back then but how it hits different
@sealingfan6889
@sealingfan6889 Ай бұрын
The Mario world on the WiiU Minecraft was one of the best things back in the day. Really loved that version.
@dreadhavoc
@dreadhavoc Ай бұрын
Oddly enough, despite growing up playing pocket edition due to a lack of a PC, I always found the Xbox 360/PS3 variants to be the most nostalgic to me. Maybe its the fact that a lot of youtubers i watched played on those versions rather than Java edition. Idk
@LueLucifer
@LueLucifer Ай бұрын
Nope, I watched DanTDM only & played the Xbox 360 version.
@LandonEmma
@LandonEmma Ай бұрын
The shading and old textures of Console was so good we need a Java mod to put those shaders into Java
@ArpaRec
@ArpaRec Ай бұрын
That exists. One for bedrock exists too. Just google 'minecraft console edition resource pack'
@lukenerdy
@lukenerdy Ай бұрын
You can kind of do something similar, I forgot the video but there is a way to get something kind of close to it. Its for sure not the same but close enough if you want that experience kind of
@lance_374
@lance_374 Ай бұрын
I think there’s a mod pack that turns Java into console edition. I don’t know what it’s called tho
@jblockminermc5401
@jblockminermc5401 Ай бұрын
I love how the only 2 responses are from people who just say it’s possible but can’t remember, very helpful lol
@lukenerdy
@lukenerdy Ай бұрын
@@jblockminermc5401 Yeah because I did forget and didnt bother to look it up
@DEIKO19
@DEIKO19 Ай бұрын
a shame that us console players have to play bassically a port of a mobbile game on our consoles, all the consoles together and mabye even pc is a great idea, as long as it is built using legacy as a base, but phones will only harm it due to developers having to lower the graphics and other stuff to make it work on phones bedrock is just pocket edition by another name in a platform where it compleatly wastes it´s capeabilities, see a new, updated cross platform legacy console edition to all other consoles may be a pipe dream, but hey, dreaming is free!
@Ivegotsomewater81
@Ivegotsomewater81 Ай бұрын
Makes sense why the console ports of Minecraft are incredible, 4J also did the amazing port of Oblivion on PS3.
@Neeek_
@Neeek_ Ай бұрын
minecraft nostalgia heads will convince themselves into thinking things like no FOV slider was a positive thing
@richardcheese6161
@richardcheese6161 5 күн бұрын
That's because it was a positive thing
@michaelchance6125
@michaelchance6125 Ай бұрын
Actually I think Java is already stopping being the main version. When you play bedrock the title just syas Minecraft, but on Java it says Minecraft Java.
@JoBot__
@JoBot__ Ай бұрын
Java Edition will forever be the main edition and to say otherwise would be a lie. Bedrock Edition, at its heart, is a mobile port.
@BloopersINCjr
@BloopersINCjr Ай бұрын
@@JoBot__ Mojang Gaslighting moment
@Copperkaiju
@Copperkaiju Ай бұрын
Microsoft probably makes more direct money from Bedrock because of downloadable content but most of the free advertising seems to come from people playing modded Java on KZfaq. Without Java both Microsoft and Google/KZfaq would probably lose alot of money. Microsoft probably wants to leave Java behind but can't afford to and is trying to gradually push people onto Bedrock so that it's more financially viable. I'm not an expert but that's my theory.
@justaguy2183
@justaguy2183 Ай бұрын
@BlooperslNCjr it’s not a gaslight, Mojang themselves said that they won’t stop updating Java
@BloopersINCjr
@BloopersINCjr Ай бұрын
@@justaguy2183 I know, but I never said mojang would stop updating java I’m just implying that there trying to make it seem like the definitive MINECRAFT experience is bedrock because they simply titled it MINECRAFT without Bedrock Edition being below it
@z5vix
@z5vix Ай бұрын
4j studios actually knows how to make a optimized game that WILL run on all devices. There were like 3 glitches and all of them were extremely rare occurrences
@emmet042
@emmet042 7 күн бұрын
(crafting duplication glitch has joined the chat)
@Irobert1115HD
@Irobert1115HD Ай бұрын
i think many problems that minecraft hs rn come from the fact that someone higher up (likely above mojangs leadership) wants bedrock and java to the equal so the can end the java edition.
@ryan_3113
@ryan_3113 Ай бұрын
I could go on for hours about how this stupid 360 port changed my life
@pizzaparker999
@pizzaparker999 Ай бұрын
I always felt like Minecraft Bedrock looks like a mobile game
@BraiaCorno
@BraiaCorno Ай бұрын
bcoz it is
@SmitePlayz_
@SmitePlayz_ Ай бұрын
so does java.
@pizzaparker999
@pizzaparker999 Ай бұрын
@@SmitePlayz_ do you think so?
@valleyforgeproductions
@valleyforgeproductions 23 күн бұрын
It IS a mobile game. They ported Pocket Edition to console and Windows and called it good
@followupcloniboies4490
@followupcloniboies4490 15 күн бұрын
​@@valleyforgeproductionsI hated when they did that...also, bugs became a lot more frequent on Bedrock Edition as well EX: (split screen is a buggy, zoomed in mess).
@connorjohnson7834
@connorjohnson7834 Ай бұрын
On the ps4 you can easily go between modern bedrock and 'legacy' which is forever at the 1.14 update, and it looks and plays so much better than the current bedrock.
@Kirill17
@Kirill17 Ай бұрын
Console edition had one thing that greatly helped it become superior too. It respected java. It understood its position and did not try to be a thinly veiled replacement. It knew its place and worked well within its bounds and become exceedingly great within. It wasnt THE Minecraft, but an extension or retelling of it.
@TechComplexity
@TechComplexity Ай бұрын
my hot take is that xbox 360 is better than an RTX 2934023948203498240398 92381203498109482309482048203GB RAM CORE i192308129312 PC . i booted up a world on 360 superflat with 7 layers of tnt and lit it up and suprisingly it didnt crash
@BloopersINCjr
@BloopersINCjr Ай бұрын
The game try’s its best not to crash by limiting the amount of explosions and block updates at a time to avoid a crash do the same with a superflat but with sand and air blocks with no bedrock below it then break a sand block the sand that falls will slowly do so with a few at a time until they despawn (or reach the bedrock floor and become solid again) in the void so that the game doesn’t crash
@cidlucien5254
@cidlucien5254 Ай бұрын
Idk what point you're trying to make here, i think you're trying to say preformence on 360 is better then pc??? Java isn't exactly the best coding language for games and bedrock is optimized for phones so they look worse compared to the 360 port which was designed to run on a 360.
@TechComplexity
@TechComplexity Ай бұрын
just a joke man 😂
@OldMan4Nostalgia
@OldMan4Nostalgia Ай бұрын
@@TechComplexity a terrible one tbh
@maddicattyryan
@maddicattyryan Ай бұрын
I like how it was actually optimized for each console. Now it’s the same exact copy paste no optimization for specific consoles
@Xilivian
@Xilivian 6 күн бұрын
A 4 minute video about a guy stumbling around his words, repeating the title of the video over and over, just to end it while never actually properly addressing whatever point he ever was trying to get on to stating. Amazing. Definitely on THAT side of KZfaq, again.
@AdmiralSloth
@AdmiralSloth 6 күн бұрын
Yeah I'm a bit confused. What even was the point of the video I feel as though it wasn't really articulated well enough
@therealhfdarkworld
@therealhfdarkworld Ай бұрын
Honestly in disbelief rn and what I’m wondering is cuz c814 got kicked out did 4j get abandoned
@kodekYT
@kodekYT Ай бұрын
I’m not sure tbh, but it’s very likely that 4J weren’t told about bedrock and their version being discontinued since just months before they were teasing future updates and minigames
@therealhfdarkworld
@therealhfdarkworld Ай бұрын
@@kodekYT now I feel Microsoft is hogging all the credit think of it c814 got kicked out because he wouldn’t share him music with Microsoft and then they still use it and Microsoft is acting like they did everything with bedrock when really they took features from the old editions
@blahajenjoyr
@blahajenjoyr Ай бұрын
@@therealhfdarkworld who tf is c814??? it's C418
@therealhfdarkworld
@therealhfdarkworld Ай бұрын
@@blahajenjoyr got a bit mixed up it’s hard to keep track when you just well I don’t even know anymore
@WizardCrafterzSucksL
@WizardCrafterzSucksL Ай бұрын
C418 made a comment about why they wouldnt let him continue mkaing music, i forget what social he made the comment on- but it was something about mojang wouldnt let him own the music, like once he created it from now on they wanted to own it and have the rights toit (most likely for copyright claiming etc so they can make more money)
@cats824
@cats824 Ай бұрын
Overall, the solidity of console edition was better. When they replaced it with bedrock, they made a horrible mistake in my opinion. I think they should of made Bedrock feel and look like Java before making the replacement. This kinda reminds me of the 1.9 Update, and how it split the community when it came to PVP. Overall, so far I believe Bedrock will never replace Java Edition until they decide to make a move to fix that issue. And that's likely never gonna happen now because of the choice they made back when they replaced LCE, all we can do is wait on them, or the community makes an alternative. There is actually been some work with a decompilation of legacy console edition, so I can see a revival of it. I saw some netherite mod for it, and a mouse & keyboard mod, so yeah, do what you will with that information.
@waytoobiased
@waytoobiased Ай бұрын
they’re working on making Bedrock more similar to Java. It’s been happening slowly, but overall they’re way closer than they were 5 years ago pretty soon, the biggest feature difference will be spectral arrows
@KokoroFrog
@KokoroFrog Ай бұрын
Can we just appreciate console edition’s menu/UI sounds tho? Like they were so satisfying and fit the vibe of Minecraft so well, I’d take them over Java and bedrock’s clicks and silence any day
@Manueltion15
@Manueltion15 Ай бұрын
I really like Minecraft Bedrock on PlayStation. I know people say it’s bad, but I’ll still be playing it for years to come
@user-ro2ms2op6x
@user-ro2ms2op6x Ай бұрын
Fun fact: 4J makes smashing ports consistently, for example Perfect Dark for the Xbox 360.
@yoshiswagdust
@yoshiswagdust 22 күн бұрын
their banjo ports dont get enough love they are very good
@DeusVult838
@DeusVult838 9 күн бұрын
@@yoshiswagdust I love Banjo
@thebepsusdog9227
@thebepsusdog9227 Ай бұрын
The part where you mentioned that anyone who grew up with Legacy edition can recognize screenshots taken from those games, mmm absolutely brilliant. I grew up on XBOX 360 edition and could tell apart by the shading and saturation if it was XBOX ONE, 360, other, mobile or Java. I have never seen anyone point that out before!
@inreallife530
@inreallife530 3 күн бұрын
The Bedrock experience is crazy bugs, crashes, 0 fps, dumbass dlcs and laggy ass servers.
@Woooohl
@Woooohl 10 сағат бұрын
Literally, it's almost impossible to have fun playing the game. And the lag spikes still exist in 1.20.81 :(
@alecmartinez838
@alecmartinez838 Ай бұрын
I grew up with both Bedrock and Console editions. I have very fond memories of both. But the version I love the most is the console version.
@excellent_o_excrement2460
@excellent_o_excrement2460 17 күн бұрын
So beautifully put in such a short video, thank you for expressing something I too have noticed but never been able to fully articulate myself.
@chrishazfun
@chrishazfun Ай бұрын
Console Edition always felt like it was stuck in time (in a good way), they weren't getting much mob and item crossover and the color tone being closer to the beta versions makes it a good time capsule without having to actually use og Java Edition.
@jacksonbarkerthebluehairedfox
@jacksonbarkerthebluehairedfox Ай бұрын
Honestly, console Minecraft n' Java around that time was peak Minecraft. I really miss those older versions, man. I miss when Minecraft was fun for me and when I had friends to play it with. Now they've all either drifted away, aren't interested in it anymore, or just can't find the time.
@CPU_M_Rossi
@CPU_M_Rossi Ай бұрын
Bedrock had its name changed to just Minecraft cause Bedrock is on more platforms and they wanted people to know that it's cross play on all those platforms cause its just Minecraft. And Java got the Edition cause its a PC thing.
@SGuy453
@SGuy453 23 күн бұрын
As a PlayStation user, the best thing about the better together update was being able to move worlds from your PlayStation 4 to PC, and with the option to transfer PS3 worlds to PS4, i was able to move some of the worlds i have stored from back when i was a kid and archive it to my pc, forever available for me just go back and re-experience childhood memories. Yea, it feels different, but still a good way to preserve memories.
@Azraelden
@Azraelden Ай бұрын
man loved 360 minecraft playing with friends after school making friends in school over a game.
@topheat2318
@topheat2318 15 күн бұрын
Old console minecraft is just so much better than modern day bedrock. The old textures, short view distance, simplicity just had a vibe that was unmatchable.
@23_lolface
@23_lolface 6 күн бұрын
Agreed, I remember building a map and I called it "haoutested house" (It was supposed to be haunted house)
@ryan_3113
@ryan_3113 Ай бұрын
Been playing 360 edition before I go to bed. The feeling that game creates is very unmatched, I can’t even put words to it, I’m just glad I can kinda revisit those days.
@TheBlackRose666
@TheBlackRose666 Ай бұрын
There was a certain magic that happened when playing on the OG Xbox 360 edition of minecraft... From the music to the earliest blocks, it was truly an experience especially with friends
@v_35hr
@v_35hr Ай бұрын
you cant explain, but you can feel when a game is made with love I just randomly installed Minecraft in my old PS Vita, 480p, 30fps and struggles to generate world, but I had more fun and have been playing it more frequently than the world in my pc with 110 fov, +100fps and shaders
@bunker9492
@bunker9492 Ай бұрын
I some times try to play bedrock on my console but when I do the menus are really slow and the game is really laggy. Makes me wish i could still play legacy edition.
@basically_boring
@basically_boring Ай бұрын
my switch broke a while ago and i had to replace it. thing is, i had the 4J console minecraft on it and since it'd been removed from the e-shop i couldn't get it on my new one. really sucks because that version was so much better than bedrock despite the lack of updates past 1.12
@rage2387
@rage2387 Ай бұрын
You can still download it, just go to the screen that shows all the games you bought and it should be there. People still play minigames on it too.
@biteingcobra363
@biteingcobra363 Ай бұрын
I feel like you should have gone more in depth with this video. Give some examples and go into those examples and see what they did right from a user, gameplay, and game design, perspective as well as a player perspective. Go over the different ways 4J split from majang and the ways they stuck to mojang. Maybe make another video on this topic in the future that goes over the strengths that are present in LCE while acknowledging its faults and the bugs that could be considered worse than bedrock. Great video overall I just wish I went more in depth on the points being made because otherwise it feels more like a nostalgia trip.
@sonicloverlol2
@sonicloverlol2 Ай бұрын
Also can you make that one dog minecraft mod? (I frogot what its called)
@antigravitysauce
@antigravitysauce Ай бұрын
First time finding this channel and man this was a good video. Keep on making bangers like these! ❤
@Celestial_Cryptid
@Celestial_Cryptid Ай бұрын
I’ll never forget the first time my world got updated to bedrock and i literally become nauseous, lmao. Still I just can’t play Minecraft with infinite worlds, I find it really pointless, I’ve given up waiting for it to return and the methods to make one manually seem really complex. But I also want the new update content so I can’t convince myself to play the old version so I just lost the will to play completely.
@23_lolface
@23_lolface 6 күн бұрын
I still remember trying to build the twilight forest portal in my ps3 world and i was so sad it didnt work
@AnonTDegenerate
@AnonTDegenerate Ай бұрын
While I love bedrock edition, it's the majority of the player base's version and allows for crossplay which is huge, there definetly needs to be some more stand out features. You have snowy trees, the cauldrons, and the wither which people love. But apart from the bugs being fixed ofc, one thing they need to do is have like tutorial worlds again and make them specific to each platform on bedrock edition, maybe with skins as like a distinction.
@luizlexis7508
@luizlexis7508 Ай бұрын
6 years ago nostalgia hit
@eggdrew
@eggdrew 3 күн бұрын
"you cant replicate it" Legacy4J mod: am i a joke to you?
@emilybellardino1470
@emilybellardino1470 Ай бұрын
Honestly, the weirdest thing for me is that Bedrock runs better on my computer than Java which is the opposite for most of my friends.
@Totas_funnynumber
@Totas_funnynumber Ай бұрын
Amplified and customized superflat worlds are something I wish Mojang brought back, along with the ability to make FIREBLAST wands on anvils
@CitrusThings
@CitrusThings Ай бұрын
The change in default edition was a Microsoft change
@MasterMCGS
@MasterMCGS Ай бұрын
btw guys, are all the legacy console editions the same? like if we match versions, is 1.13 sbox one same as 1.13 switch and/or 1.13 playstation 4?
@sacrificiallamb4568
@sacrificiallamb4568 Ай бұрын
Yes, give or take a few version specific patches.
@endereggy6808
@endereggy6808 Ай бұрын
I was shocked that customised worlds was console unique the first time i played bedrock
@eg_manifest510
@eg_manifest510 8 күн бұрын
console was my childhood, and when I first played Java I spent ten minutes trying to find where they hid the settings for customizable superflat worlds before realizing it wasn't a thing. I still remember my crappy netherrack base that I made when I was in the single digits of age, and how my sister let me have her base only for me to fill it with whatever cool build I tried to replicate from Stampy's Lovely World, or just cover the outside in fence posts. Even though the world was tiny and I hit the border just by going a few blocks from my house, it was still somehow so big and expansive to me that I never even explored the Eastern half of the map and remember exploring the south side with my brother and getting shocked when some lava we found was turning into cobblestone, only to become more shocked when it turned into obsidian and we spent hours trying to figure out the difference
@the_dogeboi243
@the_dogeboi243 28 күн бұрын
seeing that one frame of the tutorial world just hit me like a ton of bricks
@thatrandomredengine9430
@thatrandomredengine9430 Ай бұрын
Minecraft is already the most popular video game of all time. They did it. So why are they trying to make Bedrock and Java the same? Java should stay its own thing and Bedrock should go into a different direction. I think of it more as a diversity of the game, rather then a “of this version sucks imma play this version” cause that’s not what it should feel like.
@Arbolez
@Arbolez Ай бұрын
I remember when the console edition had the minigames, the voice chat and the tutorial maps (with easter eggs) it had a charm
@Herodrine44
@Herodrine44 Ай бұрын
I always get nostalgic for the old console games, it is surprising to think how they werent around that long
@RelytDidIt
@RelytDidIt 6 күн бұрын
Ngl I got the idea but this video felt like an intro
@bottomtext3063
@bottomtext3063 27 күн бұрын
I never forgot custom superflat, it was my favorite thing to do back then.
@bankerduck4925
@bankerduck4925 Ай бұрын
Now this is an intro that pulls one in to a video!
@MaxBoomingHere
@MaxBoomingHere 3 күн бұрын
I remember I specifically would boot up my Wii U version of Minecraft for the battle minigames. It was cool to talk with people on a console and be able to split-screen the minigame with my brothers too
@justrad7637
@justrad7637 Ай бұрын
java has amplified generation and customizable superflats since so long tho?
@sfierro518
@sfierro518 Ай бұрын
Yo what's the background track thats playing at the end of the video around 3:50+
@FoxxOrigins
@FoxxOrigins Ай бұрын
The bedrock edition of the game is considerably better than the java edition, java's only reason for being relevant is an heavy support from the community. The same amount of work given to the bedrock version would benefit everyone significantly more. Java can barely run without external mods launchers, let alone play with friends without using external tools, it's "less buggy" because most of it's code is redundant and simply dumbly designed, to the point where the game isn't optimized enough to run correctly on modern hardware. In bedrock you can in vanilla extend the render distance to 64 chunks. 64. chunks. The debate between theses two version is sterile though, as most peoples will be biased by nostalgia along with a poor understanding of how the game is coded, but good luck playing java the day modders aren't there to do their jobs.
@deskmat9874
@deskmat9874 10 күн бұрын
Remember in the 360 edition when the entire world you could play on was only the size of 1 map so your seed mattered so much more and at the edge of the world no matter what the terrain is it just cut off into an endless ocean
@Snapdragon98
@Snapdragon98 Ай бұрын
My first experience with Minecraft was on Xbox 360, all the way back in TU1. I also played the game on a CRT, because that was the gaming TV in our house. We had a big flatscreen, but that was for movies and cable TV only. I'll never forget playing the TU1 tutorial world on that old grainy CRT, a true feeling of nostalgia like no other. I was a kid back then and I'm an adult now. Even playing old beta versions of java just doesn't compare in the slightest for me. I miss the old days dearly.
@blueelectric05
@blueelectric05 Күн бұрын
Played the ps4 edition of minecraft and it does have a vibe on its own, the best thing about it is how smooth it runs on the console. Now that it turns into bedrock it feels way too off, and sometimes there's a lag spike whenever you put down a block
@chinkram
@chinkram Ай бұрын
tbh i dont get why they just didnt put 4j studios at charge on bedrock, i'm pretty sure bedrock would be a lot better if it was that way.
@Darkwolf_1017
@Darkwolf_1017 28 күн бұрын
Console feels like it was made by people who loved the game, and understood it. Bedrock feels like a cooperate cash grab. And Java is an in between
@TrynyxYT
@TrynyxYT 21 күн бұрын
Console we made memories, Java were having fun, Bedrock were raging and hating Minecraft
@TheDogBoy247M
@TheDogBoy247M Ай бұрын
As I watch this video, I think about the good times I spent with my brother but as life goes on things change, he plays GTA, but I still love to play Java and XB1 Legacy edition. I will always have a spot for these games in my heart. Also, I am playing this version right now on my 4 year old world and I'm going to try to make it 5.
@CreeperokGames
@CreeperokGames 11 сағат бұрын
As a bedrock player I can say that mojang still won't add structures to flat worlds. I really wanted villages before 1.14.
@meerkat5818
@meerkat5818 7 күн бұрын
Mojang fell off after Notch stepped down
@ParappaTheRapper0
@ParappaTheRapper0 Ай бұрын
Why my seeing so much legacy edition videos so early
@Bingies01
@Bingies01 Ай бұрын
Well, not everyone can afford a good pc. Java is incredibly laggy if you dont have a good pc, and bedrock is the version that fixes that. Apart from the "bugs" its an alright edition
@endergamerxp5530
@endergamerxp5530 Ай бұрын
They is not 4j who make scrap mechanic when they go idie as Axolote ?
@SGT_Squid_Dog
@SGT_Squid_Dog Күн бұрын
Now THIS is the Minecraft I grew up with. It was perfect. It had everything and more. Minecraft as it is today will always be inferior to it's predecessor created by 4J all those years ago. There will never be another version of Minecraft more perfect than 4J's, not Mojang's.
@TrynyxYT
@TrynyxYT 21 күн бұрын
The point is people like me who have access to all three versions of Minecraft will look at Java and see a fun playable game, look at legacy console and see a nostalgic enjoyable game and look at bedrock and get no enjoyment out of playing it. When given the choice NO ONES gonna pick a game that looks and preforms awfully over two loved versions. Legacy console will always have a place in my heart cos its what I grew up with. Legacy console is the first look at Minecraft i got, Java is what I grew up watching all my favorite KZfaqrs play and bedrocks a newer version that no one likes that just invited itself to the community
@orynx2835
@orynx2835 Ай бұрын
Legacy edition is probably the second best way to play Minecraft. The crafting table felt so organised even tho it didn't had by default the way you were supposed to find recipes on your own but fun fact you can actually change that by the settings! It had the mini games , you could custom your own rules on them and indo your worlds too. It had mash ups worlds for FREE! and you could actually play them and do stuff on them they even had unique music to them while you were playing . I remember playing the Fallout 3 mash up and the Christmas one . 4J studios did so many things to the console edition and i am happy they were like this . I just wish mojang hires them again to make it cross platform the way Legacy edition was .
@EGSKillshot
@EGSKillshot Ай бұрын
Great video bro. Nice concise and straight to the point.
@chrono9503
@chrono9503 Ай бұрын
I never understood why people say bedrock sucks. Sure, Java is better, but that doesn't make bedrock bad. Its like 95% identical to Java.
@thegreenbacon514
@thegreenbacon514 Ай бұрын
People say it’s filled with glitches. And while they do exist, it’s blown out of proportion.
@MasterMCGS
@MasterMCGS Ай бұрын
the overall experience is worse, specially in survival. the movement. the mechanics, how redstone works, accesibility to mods, etc etc. and this comes from a former mcpe player (i now play java, bedrock on pc and bedrock on phone)
@chrono9503
@chrono9503 Ай бұрын
@@MasterMCGS The only change to movement is that you have to sneak to shield.
@MrBrineplays_
@MrBrineplays_ Ай бұрын
​@@MasterMCGSAs a former mcpe player who played for 7 years before getting java, I agree, bedrock sucks. Skeletons have much shorter shooting interval, shields don't immedaitely work, zombies have a larger range, mobs spawn in bigger groups, you randomly take damage, you can't play with mods, you can't switch texture packs while in game, everything is saturated, all mobs have larger range, endermen can still teleport even if they're riding on other entities, it lacks a lot of java features like the debug menu, it feels clunky, and lot more.
@MrBrineplays_
@MrBrineplays_ Ай бұрын
​@@chrono9503Shield doesn't instantly work though, it takes 1 second to work
@Gamer-Bobby9000
@Gamer-Bobby9000 Ай бұрын
Wow I miss this
@gameygames135
@gameygames135 Ай бұрын
One thing I always liked doing when I visited my friends was playing Mimecraft on their PS4 Our worlds never lasted long, but it was still a really fun experience
@HarryNansen
@HarryNansen 8 күн бұрын
I like the dirt tower at 2:36 - What video is it originally from?
@kodekYT
@kodekYT 8 күн бұрын
The Minecraft Xbox edition trailer
@HarryNansen
@HarryNansen 8 күн бұрын
@@kodekYT Thank you!
@DooritoJames
@DooritoJames Ай бұрын
The Legacy Editions will forever be the greatest version of Minecraft
@DaveTheRetroGuy
@DaveTheRetroGuy 17 күн бұрын
4J Deserved to own Minecraft more than Microsoft 😢
@Truerepp
@Truerepp 6 күн бұрын
is anyone else getting the block glitch in mc PlayStation edition? where one side is too bright?
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