Anyone prefer watching Ben skate without any music? Just the sound of skating is soothing.

Was an Indy fanboy for YEARS until I tried thunders on a board that had lost its pop and they basically revitalized the deck for another 2 weeks. They don't have the same heft as indys, but I find them more reliable for a boards longevity (i.e. no ghost pop). I still have like 5 sets of indys but these thunders have been going strong for a year now and I haven't felt like returning anytime soon.

Ben you rock 🤘😎🤘. Truly an inspiration to some of us older guys to get back into it. Wish I’d never stopped now, but only thing to do now is...Go skate👍

Ben I want you to know you got me back in again. Today I took no less than 5 good slams doing tricks I would usually never fall on in the past but I don't regret it. Your technical mindset and measurement analysis videos should be more well known. I know more spec data about boards than I ever knew 10 years ago. Love from WA.

Venture!!! I like the stability of those truck. Plus they are the one and only compagny to make great low truck.

Indy 149 hollows although I'm riding 159 standards right now and they feel so good in bowls and on coping. Keep up the good work! 🛹🔥

I really love the sharp turn on Aces, and their re-threading axle nuts are great, but they don't seem to last too long. Will be trying Indys next. Great video.

Ben is the one skater that always delivers for me🥰 tech or the miniramp. Its always a great sesh with you.

Aces be´cause it gives the most play out of your truck. Best turn, best lean. Indys feel like I can turn one truck at a time and it screws me up, Aces turn more symmetrically or are more coordinated if that's the right word

Damn, killing it on that mini ramp!

I really love the addition of music while your skating Ben, really makes the video even better

I have the titaniums. Indy's definitely rule. In the 90's I rode Thunder. When I came back to skating in 2013 I tried Tensor, but I couldn't stick with them. Switching to Indy's was one of the best things I did to update my setup.

I used to ride the Thunder hollow lights because I thought id get more pop from light trucks then I saw an old video of yours talking about how you liked the indy standard pop feel and been riding them ever since and its helped me improve my pop along with grinds.

I can't wait to be able to skate again. Thanks for your input Ben. 🙏

Thunder 148 team hollows have been working out really well for me, I’ll have to try the Indy 144 forged hollows soon!

Thunders 148 hollow lights are my favourite. Good turning and the stock bushings are much better than the ones on independent.

I like steeper decks. And with those I find the Tensor low trucks, mag light TENs work fairly well. Not saying they are my best ever with nothing changing in the future. But I do like them. They also have a neat grind, even though I am not great at grinds.

I settled on Indy 139 standards. Tried aces, too twitchy, tried thunders, a tad low for me. There's something about the Indy turn being a tad delayed then getting sharp when you dig in that I really like. Also the 55mm works with the decks I like to ride.

"I'm done!" LOL! Ben not in the mood for any stage dives to flat.

i just got 149 team thunders and they feel like the best trucks ive ever skated

I really liked the skating with the music and the Mini was sick

Those are the same trucks I'm riding on my setup. 8.25" Santa Cruz, Indy 144 standards and Spitfire formula 4s conical fulls. Loving my setup right now. Also, always look forward to your videos. Keep up the good work and keep em coming.

Going to have to try them. I've been on 149s for the past ~5 years, but I want to slim down my setup (board and trucks). I know a couple guys that were stoked on 144s when they came out.

Same here bro I love the indy 144s. Just bought some Ventures to try. I've always skated independent 139s stage 8s when I was in my teens through in to 20s

Indy 144 hollows with the lower baseplate. I love em. The turn,the grind and the manual. Ride the best ,F the rest. Lol

I'm on indy 144 hollows right now, they're great! But I do tricks easier on krux trucks especially manuals and grinds, but I had to swap out the pivot cups so they could turn better and I had to remove like 3mm from the kingpin so I could tighten it more coz it hits the board when I tighten it. INDY and KRUX!

Besides a cheap pair of thunders on my first ever board - Indys are all I’ve ridden

A perfect pop shiv is my favorite trick and that was nice.

That concrete mini looks like one of the best I’ve seen. Very flowee!

I knew it lol! Indy basher lolol! I started on indy's in the early 90's then switched to venture as they were lighter. I still love indy's though fo sho xx

I'm still figuring out what I like. I've owned Thunder, Tensor, Venture, Krux, Indy, and most recently, Ace trucks. At the moment I'm really digging Aces, but I usually find my self working my way back to Thunders after trying out something different for a while.

Thx for a great video 🤘

Nice one Ben!!! I’m Indy’s 4 lyfe too😂

Thunders, just feel so much closer to the ground than Indy’s and grinds are way better imo

Indy 144s are just so perfect. I have the titanium ones, they're wonderful.

I rode indys for a long time. Had skated thunders when I was younger a couple times. But I recently got some thunder lights and I have to say I like them a lot better. So much lighter. I’ve only been skating them for 2 days and they feel broken in pretty much. I ride medium loose. They grind good too

I just did that with a 149 hollow hanger cast baseplate on matt berger flip deck. Felt super heavy, really nice ollie’s but i found it hard to get flip tricks consistent. But the board sticks if you have no problem popping really hard all day.

Definitely a Indy 149 standard is my favorite truck so far

I bought a pair of Tensor all terrain mag lights after your video, absolutely love them. If you can shake the fact that the core skate industry thinks they are "wack". Haha. Best for a slappy board set up.

I don't skate that often and am not a trick heavy skater so my favorite trucks are thunders. they are just super responsive especially for turns. I use the hollow lights and they have really good feel. thunder also mall grabs really comfortably.

I work at a skateshop and pretty much everyday someone comes in asking for new pivot cups for their independents. This could be caused by the change to china manufactoring. I ride Ace 44s. They are best truck for me, they are nice and turny with bones soft bushings and grinds feel really smooth and manuals feel nice and stable with steep kicked boards. They also look the best imo. My current setup is Thames 8.5 deck, Ace 44 trucks with bones soft bushings, Bones reds bearings and spitfire 54mm 99a conicals.

147 Thunder lights on A 8.25 board , the amount of pinch action I’ve gotten with this accidental setup is amazing””” then I found out Ishod Wair rides big boards with 147 Thunder stamp the seal of approval

I love Ace and Indys. It depends on the deck and wheelbase for me. I know some will say well the Aces are technically indy because they are stage IIIs but the name on those trucks is ACE not Independent Truck Co. Both have been the absolute best trucks that I've skated hands down. I will change decks and wheels before I change out trucks when trying different setups (Not because I'm cheap) because I just love the way they feel, the position of the hanger, the way they grind and carve. They are literally perfect for what I like to feel when I skate. I have 3 setups. I don't necessarily ride just one. Sometimes I skate something for a month, wake up one day and just want to go to something new. I have a small setup of 8.0(Couldn't find 7.75 at the time, which is what I really wanted), it didn't feel good with ACE 33s so I went to Indy 139s. My "vert" or my 80s throwback setups are both ACE because they turned and carved better with the larger wheelbase and position of the axles.

Ben, it is not getting worse. That is a principle ... YOU HAVE !

Congratulations Bullet Trucks!

Thunder all the way , been riding the 151s for a while on a 8.5 but just gone down to 149s and a 8.38 as my new setup for starting uni 👌🏼

Indy 149 standard with a swapped forged base plate so they have the hollow kingpin making them 376g per truck. I also just got a set of thunder standard 149 and actually really like how they turn. They were 366g new.

I still have my tensors circa early 2000s with the slide piece between the wheels , I loved tensors , just picked up skating again at 35 , I picked up krux , I never liked ventures or thunder when I use to ride them off friends boards back in the day , indys are good but tanky heavy

That park looks really cool!

Nice, just bought a pair of Milton 144s

I ghost pop alot with Indy's, so I wait for the mids with inverted kingpin. Been riding Thunders for years

Yes independent 144s are the best!! But the bushings crack easy for me, still need to find some that work for me

Just gone from stage 10 low 139 to stage 11 149 forged hollow.. don't need to try another truck now these are just spot on..

Love the channel!!!!

I have skated a couple years but only have a couple pairs of independents. They last me long because I don't do tricks yet and was just using my board to commute to and from work. Saying my favorite is pointless since I've only tried independent, but research tells me they are the best at turning and the best for transition, and that definitely matches what I'm most interested in, so kind of hard to justify spending money on more trucks of other brands when I probably already found what's best for my priorities.

That park looks fun asf!

I haven't been skating for that long but I like thunder trucks bc they are really lightweight and really good turns when I ride. They are also good with ground tricks for me bc that's all I'm doing and enjoy doing for the time being.

I just bought venture trucks because that’s all they had in stock that fit my board and a huge chunk of the bushing came off after 2 session of just riding around in a parking lot.

Skated tensors and grind kings being my favorites back then but they both became hard to get so been skating indys for 10+ years now.

Me 5.6 high and 5.8 venture from standard to v-hollow, im so used to the stability of the wheel base and the pop. For me they turn just fine, now i skate them just with the stock bushing. I love indy (149)and thunder too but not as much as venture. Indy too turny on 14.25 and down and thunder too low for my weigh(190).

VENTURE 4 LIFE. Started riding ventures trucks in 1989 on my vision gonz board. I've ridden Indy, Titan,but always come back to VENTURE. Been riding the first series Venture Dots in 8.6. been stuck on 8.5 decks due to my size 6'2 190#.....Ventures Rule!!!

I’ve been playing around with deck/truck size. First bought Indy 169 to put on the old school deck I pulled out of the closet. Then realized the deck was valuable so I went to 144 standard on 8.25 deck. Felt a bit small so I got a 9” deck for the 169. Felt a bit big. Now have 149 titanium on 8.5 deck and I love it. I like the forged baseplate too because I use 1/8” squishy old man risers.

THUNDER LOW 147s ALL DAY. I also had no clue you were related to Ted Degros until recently. Makes perfect sense lol

I'm riding Indy's 149 in 8.3 deck it works for me the best

I rode Thunders for years. Didn't have an issue. Thought trucks were trucks essentially. Recently got some Indy 149 hollows. Changed everything. They're the best trucks I've ever had and I'm a total Indy convert now.

My favorite trucks are the Indy 149 standards. I gotta say the turn and pop feel is out of this world. The weight does not matter to me based on the geometry.

my first trucks were INDY’S in like in 1989. I rode INDY’S for years...decades. But now I’m riding THUNDER HOLLOW LIGHTS with clear blue bushings. It took a little to get used to then cuz their lower. I love my THUNDER HOLLOW LIGHTS.

I love watching you Ben but I hope you see This because you are really inspiring to me in skating!

Currently riding Team Thunder 147s and love em!

Ride the Best dude! I've always skate 139s and i love them

I have been waiting for this video!

I'm riding Thunders with bushings from Indy. Not too sure what the bushing hardness is but I love the set up.

What a coincidence - next up in my "Watch Later" queue : Independent's "Savouring the Struggle" Video :>

I remember you said that Vancouver was an Indy Town. Thats how I knew. Indy Gang🤘🏾

I got Royal Mids for 8,5 decks... my favorite trucks. I like Ventures and Tensors, but I prefer the large Royal Mids. 💯

Indy’s and thunders by far my favorite

I tried so many times to ride thunders. I have owned Indy 149 hollows as well in addition to bullet trucks. All I can say is I ALWAYS go back to Indy 144 standards. I like how they are roomy for stability when grinding and hillbombing and skating ramps...but they don't really get any significant wheel bite (at least for me) because you can have them fairly tight and they still turn well because indys have a nice gentle carve to them. They manual nicely for me. My manuals are definitely better with Indys than thunders. At the same time, although I can do some tricks better on thunders, I don't do ALL of my tricks better on thunders and when I start skating thunders I run into wheel bite problems. So Indys are more consistent overall which to me is the most important.

Ive started with 144 hollows, and it was the best for a long time. Then my gear madness pushed me to try thunder hollow 147, never liked, you have to choose no turn or wheelbite. I even bent them learning flatground ollie (im 150lbs). After ive tried 149 hollow and ace 44. Both are cool, ace are heavy (i dont like this) but turn was amazing initially. Bushings stiffened after initial brake in, and they became another indy. I hope they will be soft again. Indy 149 are great, its like more stable 144. Ive even tried 149 titanium, but felt no difference with hollow (but checked 20g weight diff on scales). All above from the beginner viewpoint. I’ve landed kickflip once )

Raw thunder 149s were my first set of real trucks andare always my go to. Also tried venture and indy. Hated the ventures. The indys were pretty great though.

I like the 169 Indy’s that I’ve been skating for a while, I skate them without the washers so they’re nice and loose.

I’ve always skated Independent trucks. I don’t know any different. I’ve always skated them. When they released the stage 11/hollow trucks that eliminate speed wobble I became a customer for life.

I'm loving the Hollow Indys 144 with the regular baseplate 😍

My FAVORITE are 169 indy titanium lights. but for my smaller boards i have 149 indy standards and 149 thunder team lights and i just love them both. If i HAD to pick id go Indy but thunders are so good for pinch.

This guy makes my days better 😂 he needs to review a baker ASAP tho that would be a good vid

Great topic!! I'm with you on the indy's I gave Thunders a try, but never felt great ride them, Like ever? There's just something about Independent trucks!

I've been riding royal trucks for a while now and I know they're a little cheaper compared to Indies etc but I've loved mine. I've found with royals too that they always feel broken in as soon as you get a new pair. Never really found that with any other truck. You should review some Ben

would love to see you try a symmetrical board witb fresh trucks , with the board having the same nose and tail makes it so you wouldnt need to have a designated front and back truck , and i think seeing the wear on trucks used as both front and back would be interesting

I had the same feelings about my Stage 8 146s. I kept trying to ride other trucks but I gravitated back to them every time. They are currently completely trashed and to this day I still find myself back. They have GK kingpins on them so they had way more grind life than your average stock Indy but alas they have no grind clearance left and the rounded kingpin head is the only thing keeping them skateable at all. The day they crack or snap I might have to hold a funeral with a well scripted eulogy to honor the greatest pair of trucks I've ever owned. That being said I like the way big wide Ventures skate the most but the places they lack are the places that Indys shine the most. Kinda like Ben and Thunder to Independent.

Been watching your videos, thanks for making them. Some well considered points on geometry, which would have so useful when I started skating in 1994.

i like the Theeve tiax and csx trucks, destructo d2s were good, tensor mag response lows are my favorite though.

This is off topic but I would really like to see your opinion on these Impact Madness decks I've seen. Looks like a normal deck except for a 15" wheel base! Just curious to see you skate it and why in the world a 15 inch wheel base

I was on thunders for several years; I ordered some indie 159 hollows and have been skating those for about a month. Still stock bushings without any adjustment to the trucks. May tighten them up in a bit; not sure if it's a myth, but I heard it's best not to tighten brand new bushings before they're broken in.

I got a new setup a few months ago, after a ten year hiatus. Got a board I knew I'd like and told the guy whatever trucks and wheels he thinks would be good. Ended up getting Indys and 54mm wheels and it wasn't working for me, downsized to 52mm was better but I think I need low trucks

You should do an Indy mids review if you can get ahold of some.

Ace 44s. I swap out the bushings for Bones softs. Second favorite are Indy 149s. I like the way Aces grind compared to Indys BUT Indys sound better in a grind. I think it's because Indys use a harder aluminum. Sorry, no all-caps. I'm feeling casual this afternoon.

Ace is my favorite truck. I love the way they turn and how responsive they feel. They grind really nice too and they are by far the best looking truck imo

YOU KNOW ALL THE SLOGANS TO THE BEST TRUCKS! Been riding them for at least 30 of the 33 years I've been skating. Forged hollows are my current jam. Also, NHS customer service is the best!!!!

Are standard indys still your favorite trucks today? Currently on forged hollow indys, thinking about trying some hollow mid indys, or trying to hold off until they (hopefully) make some forged hollow mids

I really thought, it would be the Venture lows, because you ride them a lot too.

I like my tensor mag lite trucks, have the lows and atg.