I'd love to see the sequel.

brb, making 7000 new accounts.

I know this is a boring strategy but you can leave a pokemon at the daycare and level it up without training, i don't know if there is a daycare in red and blue but for any other game you can level up to level 100 so you dont care about not getting experience in battles.

Nikola Q this is absolutely possible, there is indeed a daycare. i wonder why op didnt think of this

If you ever do this again, ban daycares, they're OP in this challenge

If you keep pressing right past the Squirtle when selecting a starter the game will let you past to select the Bulbasaur, that isn't developer intended so counts as a glitch

@@LimeymanZero what

@@Earthboundmike It's a joke, just like Bulbasaur

@@Demonhornz I think the rule was no items in battle, so the repels are not a problem.

@@LimeymanZero bulbasaur is super effective against 5 kanto gyms and resists 6 of them. Bulbasaur also evolves early so it's actually one of the better starters

I mean Kabuto has lower Special so...

Hail Lord Helix!

tbf he said "not JUST for the meme"

Don’t disrespect your gods

Filthy, filthy Omanyte, we all know Ratata is best fossil.

Honestly this was my idea of Low% but I feel like it's an insult to pretend this is a speedrun lol.

@@Jrose11 I kinda find a Red with such bad social anxiety funny, like he's so nervous to make eye contact with people so he doesn't get into battles often is funny to me. (especially compared to how he's portrayed in later pokemon games)

I actually hope that if 68 Battles % becomes a thing for speedrunners, it becomes SocialAnxiety%

@@Jrose11 Could always become one now that we know it's possible (thanks to you)!

Interacting with as few NPCs as possible

That is 110% FACTUALLY TRUE! It is QUITE OFTEN considered AND implied among the long-time fans of Pokemon that if you pick Bulbasaur, it is picking EASY MODE. If you pick Squirtle, it is picking NORMAL MODE, and if you pick Charmander, it is picking HARD MODE. HECK, even in Pokemon FireRed and LeafGreen it states accordingly if you click on Bulbasaur, it says quote on quote; "Ahh, so you picked BULBASAUR. It is very easy to raise.", implying that you're picking the EASY MODE. If you click on Squirtle, it says; "Ahh, so you picked SQUIRTLE. It is one worth raising", implying that you're picking the NORMAL MODE. And if you click on Charmander, it says; "Ahh, so you pick CHARMANDER. You should raise it patiently.", implying that you're picking the HARD MODE. I don't know if you already know this or not, but I'm just telling you this to bring up a bit of a fun fact about the original Red and Blue games AND about their Remakes FireRed and LeafGreen, JUST in case if you didn't know about that particularly. Have a GREAT day wherever you are!😉👍🏽

Nintendo and their love of rng

Agatha: I'll show you how a real *drunk* trainer battles!

at 3 AM

Misty- I choose an all-out offensive with pokemon! *uses an X Defend*

Agatha fights with anime rules obviously. If a pokemon is asleep it is called unable to battle!

Anon BonBon Oh my gosh I love it

GET OUT!

@@PANZERFAUST90 bro I wish

It's super effective 😥

so does roar by scaring the poor thing away.

Yeah... That's the biggest exemption from most trainers with "good" AI, like Lorelei, Lance, and Blue. Basically, Gen 1 is a complete mess of a game.

Correct. Out of all the Elite Four members, only Lorelei and Lance have the "good" AI.

As if Bruno would benefit from "good Ai"

I think it's meant to show how she's a bit senile, but has the opposite effect.

@@2bluedragons492 yeah it makes her the extremely unpredictable creepy old lady instead.

Current JRose would do so much better on this run! The run has become so optimized.

To be fair, the Badge Boost Glitch was obscure and extremely poorly understood until around 2020 (even when the Squirtle solo happened), so he likely didn’t know about it. Mimic is also not learned by level-up by anything other than Sudowoodo before Gen 3, and Gen 1 trainers don’t use TMs, so there’s no reason it would ever be encountered in a run, not to mention you have to buy an item you have no real reason to own and take it to another city to even get the TM.

Could justify a mewtwo battle...?

lets count the whole challenge as a single battle and make that count 69

Obviously challenge failed

Count snortlax

Under 100 uh?

The implication is false, unfortunately. 5 magikarps @ 5 exp < 1 gyrados @ 30 exp. But using this run as a base it should be easy to find the glitchless minimum exp run

he never had to make that decision of 5 low xp Pokemon or 1 high xp Pokemon. generally, the trainers that had high xp Pokemon also had more Pokemon in general, and by taking the fewer number of KOs, he also took less xp.

@@steveh1474 yeah he did. After the nugget bridge and at the grass gym. Usually the game gives a trainer 1-2 strong Pokémon (beauties, cue balls, etc) or 3-5 weak pokemon (bug catchers, breeders, etc). This is for balance. Although I do think in the end fighting the trainers with fewer pokemon will give less exp overall.

@@justin02905 so what he implied was correct in the end, just not a foregone conclusion

@@rarepepe1572 yes. A real in-game example is in the Erika gym. Trainer 1: beauty Lvl 26 exegcute - 546 exp Trainer 2: cooltrainer Lvl 24 gloom - 678 exp Lvl 24 - weepinbell Lvl 24 - ivysaur I didn't calc the rest, but the gloom alone is worth more than the trainer with less pokemon in this case.

nsm 64 this is like Pikasprey finding a use for flash

nsm 64 Nobel*

I actually like bide in-game sometimes; I usually don't use things that can learn bide, but if I'm doing a nuzlocke, sometimes it really comes in handy!

@@DingoTheDemon: nuzlocke time, let's use the attack that just has me getting hurt on purpose

@@Rediblackdragon if I have a mostly defensive Pokemon at low levels then yes :D

I was the same way! I was like, afraid of encountering trainers lmao

Mine was "grind the hell outta Charizard because it's the coolest and forget the other Pokemon." It took me a few hours but Charizard and Friends (re: Meat Shields) eventually got through the whole thing.

@@_UnknownStory I did the same with my sceptile back then.

Let's be real, Kanto Elite Four kicked all our asses at some point

me too but yet i like wild pokemon pokemon x but you cant slov the furfuw puzzle me: yay i did the puzzle time to go to the 2 gym The gym leder: i will beat you with my rock pokemon me: sends out leval 55 delfox The gym leder: sends out his leval 23 pokemon gym leder: 😱 literly 2 minits later gym leter: you win me: i thout you were ment to be hard me: well time to find a eevee I leve the gym gym leder: that was strat up not far AND THATS HOW BAD MY SPELLING IS

Hi Bread

Thanks man, love the videos you've been putting out, really amazing runs lately!!

@@Jrose11 Thanks, I appreciate that! I'm always open to hang out and talk KZfaq if you ever want to! I've been doing a video a day for 8 years now so I've got no shortage of stuff to talk about

Tasty bread for our jrose sandwich

Mah-Dry-Bread - Gameplay & Streams! I wish your vids were better. :(

Thats a 1/256 miss.... not a "0"

@@clqliveson i can't remember who it was, but someone did a challenge run where they were so underleveled for Brock that their Not Very Effective move "missed" like 10 times in a row. Unless there's just some nutty RNG happening there's no way it was legitimately missing. It might've been Gamechamp but not sure.

@@edfreak9001 It happened in one of Mah-Dry-Bread's challenges, apparently what was happening was that he was dealing damage so far below 1 that the game rounds it down to 0 because it's the closest integer when calculating how much HP to deduct. Because the game thinks missing an attack is the only way to deal 0 damage, it displays the "Attack Missed" text.

Honestly I want a gen 8 game with gen 1’s shitty coding, that sounds so fun. Smogon get on that.

@@caritahearts2405 dear god what kind of hell will that create

gamerdude491 yeah, there’s no daycare in gen one

@@oilvre_ there is Gamechamp3000 used it in his no damage gen 1 playthrough

@@oilvre_ that's where you are wrong, buddy. It's right after misty

The daycare was my first thought as well.

TheTweeJaguar lmao found the dude born in 2012 😂

nice pfp

I always choose grass anyway

@@shironasama0445 :fire:

I almost always pick the grass type, they're so underrated, everyone's always going for the fire type. I mean, the first two gyms are rock and water, both weak to grass why aren't people choosing Bulbasaur?

@@RooftopRose079 i always choose water

@@RooftopRose079 there is a simple reason to choose charmender in gen-1 that being type coverage. you see while it is true that squirtlle and bulbasaur are better against earlier gyms, brocks rock types have shitty special stats and don't actually know any rock our ground moves so ember can do the job and then you can catch grass types before misty and you can get a water type before mount moon by buying the magicarp, you can find good replacements for both bulbasaur and squirtle very early on. good fire types however don't become available until cinnabar island.

If used correctly Mr Mime can be an absolute nightmare to deal with lol

Ah, the good old days of playing the game the way it was meant to. Good times...

Nobody tell this guy about Nuzlocke. I don't wanna break his heart

There's a lad who beat pokémon Red without taking a single hit. Perhaps that will bring you the desired amount of suffering.

its funny because its true

ok wanna suffer more? do the run with all your pokemon paralyzed.

Dude, you have no idea how much I edit lol, I get what you're saying but it takes forever to make these. I just really like being thorough

Jrose11 we are all thankful

@@Jrose11 Wow lol. We still love your content man!

dumb

[A spinner catches me and I start crying]

I'm the complete opposite, I was the kid who went out of his way to find every trainer on every route lol

@@wibblemu9 same, i always thought that was the point in playing it haha

@@mclarge90 haha ikr I have to enter every building and talk to ever NPC, make sure I get everything

Did he refer to MahDryBread?

@@bossboy191919 he did

I'm pretty sure that by "meme" he was referring to Lord Helix, not MDB.

only reason he said it's not for the meme is because it was for the meme, you wouldn't bring up a meme if you were avoiding it.

Hey Algorithm!

Our guiding light

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Mathematics strikes again

Agreed, and well said. Speedrunners are completely insane though, and justify all kinds of stupidity in "Glitchless" categories.

@@Xeronoia Says the insane people creating all kinds of justifications for why they think speedrunners justify glitches.

@@joshstephens413 There's no justifications or assumptions at work here, bucko, these are the actual arguments used by actual speedrunners. "Oh the item itself is working as intended so skipping a roadblock and entire sections of the game with it it isnt a glitch, even though every other way of attempting to skip that roadbloack doesn't work!" is something literally only a brainlet or a speedrunner using bias to justify a shortcut would believe.

@@Xeronoia Just because a game design lets you use a programming oversight to skip parts of a game doesn't mean it is necessarily a glitch. I'm not arguing whether the poke doll skip is a glitch or not, but it skipping parts of the game doesn't make it one. Go loo up the definition of a glitch.

@@wombat4191 So I take it you're a brainlet or a speedrunner then.

I just always get them wrong on purpose.

@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 me too. I kinda feel bad skipping those battles

When I played Let's Go I was like "did they add a quiz show here"? Because I could not remember the quiz AT ALL from my childhood days, so I GUESS I always just fought.

You sack of potatoes 😂

@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 You can always talk to the guy anyway to battle him.

What the run-on sentence was that???

Actually he made it easier by not using the pokedoll slip

There’s no day care in gen1

@@JimothiesMemeShack there is, it's near Cerulean

@@JimothiesMemeShack its south of cerulean, you cant breed pokemom but you can level them

or if the rules allow it, you can also use any% cheats to skip ALL trainers ;P but that would ruin the fun, so Itemless/trade less/ cheatless is the most fun.

I think that the HM thing was from later games, I don't see why you couldn't put in the eevee, and you can get a magikarp before Mount Moon without a battle.

Editting it right now, should be out in a couple days.

Lol until we found the missing number glitch

yup mix leech seed with toxic and that is pain

First guess wasn't too far off.

I didn't realize the last few gyms didn't require you to fight many of the trainers. Between that, and the rocket hideout lol it could've made 80

He has been using in battle items from the start. WTF are you smoking and why aren't you sharing?

@@fooff1 battle items are items used while in a battle, such as using a potion mid battle, which he doesn't do in either run you brain-damaged chimp.

Love your stuff keep it up

If jrose hasn't/isn't going to, you should 1000% try this in yellow Scott! Having watched your recent content, this would be fun to see! You'd have to tweek the starter, maybe an Eevee since it's technically a starter that's given by Oak (just not to the player) in yellow! Or any (reasonable) pokemon that would make it possible to actually clear Brock and move on to the rest of the game. The rest of the game is a challenge enough on it's own and would be wildly different than red/blue even when only considering the main story battles!

Ok I'm continuing rather than editing some more. Turns out hyper beam was key. Just to clarify, double team made the battle trivial but I wasn't comfortable doing it with double team, I might resort to that for the elite 4 but for now I'm trying without double team. With hyper beam though I had to try multiple things. First I tried it at level 46 without rare candy, it was a slaughter, you just don't deal enough damage, and you can't really badge boost either cause you level up to level 48 after alakazam. I tried by ereasing razor leaf for sword dance too. Thing is, even with 3 sword dance you don't kill the charizard in one hit and it does kill you in two hit while you recover. On top of that losing razor leaf is bad, you can't learn it back, it's a very good move for the elite 4 and this moveset simply can't go through agatha. Then I tried it at level 53 with hyper beam and actually it works! the best thing about it is that you keep your badge boost so you get to have generally at least one attack and special buff during the fight which makes it very consistent, the only issue is you need to survive two flamethrower without a crit but since the rest of the battle is consistent and alakazam is slower and die in one hit it's just managing leech seed and toxic properly, and the gyarados not playing too mean. If pidgeot is mean you can just regen on the rhydon, if it isn't you just razor leaf the rhydon and hope for a leer from gyarados (though I think it works without it). Anyway I ended up settling for doing the battle at level 52 since you still don't level up after alakazam (you do at 51) and it leaves 1 rare candy to manage exp later, which might be useful for the last rival fight basically going for the same strategy (I REALLY hope I can do the entire elite 4 with that moveset, don't want to have to farm another 5K coins just for the last fight).

Elite 4 first report : - Lorelei isn't too awful. Dewgong is a range and lapras is a 2hko with razor leaf, jynx you need to hyper beam but it's a OHKO and the rest is just OHKO with razor leaf. As long as you get the range and lapras doesn't crit blizzard or freeze you you're fine. - Bruno is bruno. Machamp survives a razor leaf, that's about it. oh, notable thing, you learn sleeping powder during that fight, so it does give some options. - Agatha.... is a problem. Razor leaf just doesn't deal enough damage. Even going through the first gengar is a problem. I'll have to think of something else. I could try substitute and leech seed, sadly can't use toxic in that fight. But farming MOOOORE coins for substitute is something I don't want to do. Another option is learning sleep powder but even then I might lack the damage to go through everything. Mimic is also an option (actually sleep powder + mimic dream eater is appealing, super effective and allows to sustain through the battle). I'll have to try some of those out. Time for another break.

I did it! yep! actually wasn't that hard, once I figured out the strategy, beat the rival on the second try though that was somewhat lucky. Final elite 4 report : - Lorelei, still a joke, you can die to critical blizzard or missing razor leaf but that's not a big deal. - Bruno, still a joke. It's bruno. But during the fight you remove hyper beam for sleep powder and as I said, you learn mimic (remove razor leaf, it carried us well but it's time for it to go). - Agatha, can be trolly but not that much, you just need to put the gengar asleep and steal dream eater from it. You then just do sleep powder + dream eater on every pokemon until they die. You only have 9pp for it though so it's possible you are forced to stall one pokemon by killing it with leech seed. Arguably could have used rare candies to make this fight more consistent as there are a few OHKO ranges, but if you notice you're going to be short you can leech seed something like haunter and wait two proc then dream eater to ensure an OHKO so it's not too bad. - Lance, you can either mimic hydro pump from gyarados or use our secret weapon for the next fight, both will deal with aerodactyl fairly well, either way, the rest is a joke, gyarados might be able to kill you with crit hyper beam but it didn't happen to me and I actually got crit hyper beam from aerodactyl and survived. The rest have good AI so they won't attack cause buffing speed is obviously much better and you can just kill them with toxic + leech seed. easy. - The last rival fight was actually much easier than the previous one. Sleep powder is your main weapon, but you also have a secret weapon : Solar beam. That move is awful and unusable normally but here it gives us a fairly safe way to finish off sleeping pokemons. I'd rather have razor leaf of course, but I really needed to keep leech seed + toxic otherwise I wouldn't have enough PP for lance (dragonite double resist and he's got hyper potions, it would have been a nightmare). Here is how the fight goes : * Pidgeot. It's actually kinda scary, you want to go toxic + leech seed but now it's got sky attack, and if it goes off alakazam is going to be a nightmare. Still, the strat is toxic, leech seed, solar beam to finish it a bit faster, and pray. Maybe sleep powder + solar beam would have been fast enough but I didn't want to try it yet. * Alakazam. Having it so early in the fight as opposed to later in the previous fight was both a bad and good thing. The good part is that I didn't need to deal with it and charizard without time to leech life in between, the bad part is that it really limited my option as I didn't have any early pokemon with good ability to steal or time to set up on. Either way, turns out sleep powder + solar beam works. It's a bit scary cause alakazam is faster and you really hope it goes reflect if it wakes up (critical psychic is also game over, and missing sleep powder tends to do that too). I did OHKO it with solar beam but it was critical so I'm not sure if it's OHKO or 2HKO, I suspect it's 2HKO. Might even be a range for 3HKO though that's solveable for a reason that will be apparent at the end. * Rhydon is trivial, sleep powder + solar beam would do the trick, though if sleep powder fails you can fall back on toxic + leech seed to heal. * Exeggutor is actually weirdly annoying, the way to kill it is with toxic, it's going to be spamming hypnosis cause good AI, and you don't have a lot to do except wait while spamming solar beam, thing is, if it puts you asleep at the wrong time it might be really bad for you. It can't kill you though. * Gyarados is ok, you should be full life after rhydon so you can just go sleep powder + solar beam but you can potentially fall back on toxic + leech seed too. Hyper beam can be mean. * Charizard sadly is just luck. I got it first try but you just sleep powder, then leech seed, then solar beam to help it die faster (or if you are below 150 health, spam leech seed to be sure to catch it with sleep powder when it wakes up). It's a slog as it does double resist solar beam and doing solar beam while it could wake up and use fire blast on you is scary. Thankfully you can survive on fire blast, not two or a critical though (but you outspeed so you can't be locked into a really awful solar beam that leads to your death). Anyway, I got "lucky" with sleep powder (kinda, it woke up first turn 5 time in a row but I never missed) so it worked out, but it's really just luck there. Anyway, with that done I finished the game with a level 58 venusaur, minimum battle, solor run and no items in battle! Wait 58? woops, forgot to use my two leftover rare candy. Could have been a nice and round 60 but oh well. I didn't have to grind the elite 4 too hard so it's fine but you can definitely make some battle a bit more consistent by removing ranges with those rare candy. Anyway I'm happy about this run, got to use a whole bunch of cool strategy. Didn't need to resort to double team (though sleep powder is somewhat similar it feels less cheesy to me), though I did heavily resort to leech seed + toxic weird gen 1 quirk in the end game. But as it is said gen 1 giveth and gen 1 taketh away so... be sure to not scorn what you get. Either way, I got to use solar beam! and I'm really happy about that! even as a kid I always thought that move was garbage, two turns for a 120 power move is like a 60 power move with less flexibility. it's weaker than bubble beam... and it still was the best move to get in that situation and the move that allowed me to finish that run! (arguably I could have mimiced sky attack on pidgeot but sssssh, let me savor the moment). I'm never doing that run again though, cause fuck farming 5K coins for an hyper beam you are going to use for litteraly 3 pokemon before getting rid of it.