and tom anderson

agree 100% but the worst is when the person you get to play the guitar in testing question makes it sound much better than you can. it happens. some players just have the touch that can make any guitar sound good.

@@johnstaub8968 I guess I should amend my statement to say bring someone along whose opinion you trust when trying out a guitar.

Hey, I have a Tele with Fralin Stock Tele pickups and I love it. I recently got a Jay Turser Mosrite copy (my first guitar with P90s) and the pickups are pretty decent, but I've been thinking about swapping in some Fralin P90s. I'd love to hear your thoughts, if you don't mind...

I agree 100%. I have 2 G&L basses and 4 Fenders. The only commonality with Fender is Leo's involvement. G&L is better in so many ways in my opinion.

I think the QC had more to do with Heritage building less guitars to actually check, less product volume means more time to inspect each individual guitar.

And the old equipment!

Hell Yeah! Imagine growing up in the '70's when both Fender ( Crappy 3 bolt necks that wobbled all over the place) and Gibson ( Need I say anything other than 'The 20Lb Norin'?) sucked. Even the midrange as well as some of the entry level stuff today is as well or better made than stuff from the '60's!

I absolutely love Victoria Amps. In my opinion they are definitely much better than any amp Fender currently makes. I honestly think they are as good as and possibly better than the original Fender amps they are based on.

My dream rig is a Carr Superbee and Nash S63. My Fender MIM Road Worn looks great but the fret work sucks. Not getting rid of it but I'm going to do some fret work to make it like it should be. I've heard the fret work on Nash is fantastic. I hope so.

The builders are making things that will sell, they're not our benefactors, they need to make a living. A lot of them are also making guitars with specs that you can only get from a custom shop, but at lower cost and similar quality.

so why stop there, why not just pick 10 songs we all like, and all music for the rest of time will be people playing 1 of 10 songs and 1 of 3 different kinds of guitars, meh fuck it just let AI do it all right? Art is just about consumerism anyway... PASS. Stay tuned, a better class of instrument is on its way. Europe and Asia aren't locked into this lunacy like the USA seems to be, it's only a matter of time until American craftsmanship kicks back into high gear and does what these other guys are doing, but to perfection.

​@@MayorMcCheese2000 You are railing against the makers instead of the consumers. There is plenty of unique and innovative guitar builders here, just their stuff doesn't sell and they are not that well known.

Gretsch fan girl here. Eddie Cochran, Duane Eddy, Chet Atkins, were my first inspiration. I've never had the opportunity to play vintage Gretsch, but I would stack my 6120DE against any of them. I've had many hollow bodies through the years, Ibanez, Epiphone, Michael Kelly none of them came close to my Gretsch.

@@AbcDino843 I just disagree, I don't think there's a whole lot to be excited about right now, I think the builders have lost their nerve and the market is begging for more and they're unwilling to put themselves out there.

pathetic😂

sad

Ehhhhh not really. Gotta remember with G&L Leo wanted nothing to do with the classic Fender designs. His first G&L was an F100 then we saw the SC's and Cavaliers etc. The reason there is even an ASAT was Dale Hyatt. He conspired with George Fullerton to create the ASAT. George went in to the attic (The G&L factory is in Leo's old CLF Research facility Blah Blah) got the old Telecaster template (Yes the original template) and created the ASAT body. Fast forward, Dale was able to sell ASAT's and as a result Strats and Jazz masters came along. So Yeah they are building a lot of versions of fender guitars, but not because that is what Leo wanted to do, it is just what folks will buy.

If you go way back in Gibson history, they had a similar headstock. I own 2 Heritage guitars. I actually gig every week. The Heritage guitars absolutely stay in tune better because of the headstock. So, the function is important to me more than the superficial looks. Oh, I’m 74 now and I was a Gibson player for many years until Rudy Penza in NYC introduced me to Heritage. Just my thoughts.

@@robertkondrk1086 The Heritage headstock is an objectively better design, when it comes to functionality. Folks don't have to like the look, and that's cool, because that's subjective. Similarly, the PRS Silver Sky headstock (and the rest of the guitar) is functionally better than a Fender Strat, from any design, engineering, or ergonomic perspective, but people trash it all the time... for not being a Fender.

@@tacdoc8736 it’s interesting that you mentioned Silver Sky. I have 2 Heritage guitars and a Silver Sky. They work for me. And yes, I had Gibson and Fender guitars until their quality went downhill.

Yeah I’ve been wanting to find a local luthier to build me a guitar. Someone should make a network of luthiers so everyone can find someone local

​@@martianmurray Bruh, just look up luthiers near you. How hickass is the area you live in?

music man was the quality brand of MY childhood 😂 if i had a couple grand to blow on a guitar it would be spent on a music man, any oof them they are all great

I have a tribute that I absolutely love. I think the maple neck makes it much more stable or something. At 1200 bucks for a U.S. made instrument it’s a goddamn steal.

@@smelltheglove2038 Tuning stability in my opinion comes to these things in this order: how is the nut cut, what is the headstock angle, angle of the string between nut and tuner and only after that quality of tuners. I managed to get my 2018 Gibson Les Paul Tribute in a great shape for 600 euro last year. Terrific instrument.

The MFD pickups are great. I have an ‘86 Broadcaster…one of all-time favorite guitars. But I don’t think they replace anything. They’re another tasty flavor.

lol. not really...

lol wut gibby is 100% player oriented

@@jfar3340 - Genuinely, and with no offense, I’m not sure what you’re actually saying.

@@rumbletruck1 you re saying that gibson has an anti player mentality, I replied that actually it is player oriented (player focused)

@@jfar3340 - Oh, ok. My thought was that at the price point and audience, as well as generation/age of sponsored players, it seems (again, only to me) that they are selling to guys my age (48 +) rather than picking up new artists that might resonate with a younger and upcoming crowd. JJN “only” got an Epiphone, as an example. That’s where my mind set came from. Be well! 👍🏻

@@rumbletruck1 yeah maybe I don't know. I started collecting and acquired all my gibsons in my 30s (I'm in my 30s)

I was just thinking Heritage, who literally bought the old Gibson plant with the molds and templates. Everyone who worked there as Gibson employees just clocked in a few months later as Heritage guys, except they were all excited to do it better.

uh not in my experience,. gibson is way better than heritage and the vaaaast majority of people in real life (ie not in forum echo chambers) agree

@@_Yep_Yep_ yeah, but no. Gibson is vastly superior

@@jfar3340 I can definitely appreciate that you see a ton of folks on the forum blowing a lot of smoke about this or that company is better than Gibson. I’m not here to definitively say that Heritage IS better. Just to merely state that I’ve had great experiences with both companies, however I have become less of a Gibson loyalist in the recent years. From 2015-2021 I had owned 5 Gibson R8 Les Pauls and 3 R7 Les Pauls. I was fortunate enough to go through and find my keepers. I sold all but one R8 (2016) and one R7 (a well worn 2001). I’ve had over 25 Gibsons in my life and currently only have 3. Those 3 Gibsons are lifers. I’ve had 4 heritage guitars and all 4 will be staying with me. I’ve had much less of a testing pool to say definitively that Heritage Guitars are better, but in my experience the ones I’ve had have been consistently great. Great wood, great finish work, great electronics, and great value. I’m sure if I’ve had 25 heritage guitars, a large majority of them would have the same problems that some of the Gibson I’ve owned have had (shitty 300k pots instead of 500k, binding nibs separating from the frets which grab strings, truss rods being maxed from the factory, bad nut, tuning instability due to the nut[yes I can and have fixed this so not the biggest issue], lifeless/ sterile pickups, finish flaws). Again….These are MY experiences, however I still won’t say heritage is BETTER… just maybe better for me at this point in my life. My next big purchase will likely be a Gibson 64 custom shop Es335… so that’s that… but that’s why there are options. At the end of the day it should be about the art that we make and less about the brush we use to paint with. If that brush does what you want and helps inspire you to create new work… than that’s the best brush.

I have owned both a custom shop Gibson and Heritage and hands down Heritage is better. I sold my Gibson to get back the Heritage Custom Shop I sold.

It is, but it's not a boutique anymore :)

I agree! I have many brands, but I think prs is my favorite. Threir attention to detail, even in the SE line is impressive. 😊

I agree with this. I own a Carvin SH550, and it is too perfect, but it is a little heavy and the stock humbucker pickups are beautifully bright, clean, and articulate, but lack much for the grit of a PAF, and some might call them sterile. It is wonderfully well built, extremely playable, and beautiful. Similar in style to a 339 or LP Semi-hollow.

They sure are beautiful!! I’ve been drooling over one in my local guitar shop… just hard to drop $5k.

@@kerbyfab Oh, go and get it. You'll only suffer for a few years paying it off. I know how much I would like a Suhr whatever and a Suhr 68 PT Model. Mmmmmm. Perhaps a 3rd Power kitchen sink. You only live once and most are never supposed to be rich anyway. Chuckle.

That and the fact they're trying to justify $1300--1500 for MIC Epiphones, with low quality electronics, hardware, and bad fret jobs, now.

Why does made in China bother you?

@@drsrsv8884 ccp

​@@drsrsv8884my issue with china is humanitarian issues. But in the current state of the world, it's hard to avoid chinese products 100%

@@Shredxcam22 That's capitalism. sell cheap things, as high as possible, lots of suckers to make you rich!😎🤑

Im lretty sure it was the other way around. Deeds gave the money back at the end, and proved the Butler was the rightful heir. The Butler didnt know.

@@RByrne that’s what I meant to say if it didn’t come across that way.

cringe

@@drsrsv8884 yeah I like fender and gibson, a LOT.

Why? Eastman isn’t a “boutique” brand. Additionally, there are many of us who refuse to buy Chinese instruments (since it is one of the few products where we still have other options) especially when I can buy an American made instrument for the same price.

@@charlesbolton8471 I was just surprised no one mentioned it the SB59 sounds better than most lp standards I’ve heard

build quality is not subjective...... jeez