What Brien Foerster Gets WRONG about BAALBEK

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World of Antiquity

World of Antiquity

3 жыл бұрын

The ancient ruins of Baalbek in Lebanon sport massive granite columns, which come from Aswan quarry in Egypt. According to Brien Foerster, it is impossible for humans to have made them. In this video, Dr. Miano examines the arguments presented by this alternative history advocate to see if they hold up. Did the Romans carve the pillars, or a mysterious civilization of the past?
This video is about the columns ONLY. If you want to discuss the large stones of the trilithon or the quarry, watch this first: • Baalbek: Mystery of th...
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REFERENCES
Foerster's original video:
• Baalbek In Lebanon: Me...
On Roman quarries and stoneworking:
amzn.to/3AYRmI7
oxrep.classics.ox.ac.uk/databa...
oxrep.classics.ox.ac.uk/docs/S...
www.jstor.org/stable/3290845?...
brewminate.com/ancient-roman-...
www.artofmaking.ac.uk/content/...
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journal.eahn.org/article/id/7...
On Egyptian quarries:
www.ngu.no/upload/Publikasjon...
www.ngu.no/upload/Publikasjon...
escholarship.org/content/qt9b...
www.academia.edu/5407065/Mark...
On ancient stoneworking in general:
www.artofmaking.ac.uk/
www.researchgate.net/publicat...
www.academia.edu/7326869/Ston...
www.researchgate.net/profile/...
www.jstor.org/preview-page/10...
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www.academia.edu/19626045/J.P...
www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/t...
On stone hardness:
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On Roman transport:
sci-hub.st/10.1126/science.15...
www.academia.edu/7011436/Land...
books.google.com/books?hl=en&...
www.academia.edu/3080968/Marb...
On Roman engineering:
www.amazon.com/Greek-Roman-Te...
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www.amazon.com/Roman-Building...
journal.eahn.org/articles/10....
www.academia.edu/3088656/Maso...
On Roman iron and steel:
www.academia.edu/32184329/Mat...
On the reuse of Roman granite during the Renaissance:
www.cambridge.org/core/journa...
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@Listen2truth11
@Listen2truth11 2 жыл бұрын
Your funny 😂...it's amazing how hard people try to mask the truth. So who paid you? Are you part of the alphabet groups? Or part of " the intellectual" that are hell bent on proving MAN is responsible for things they didn't even have to tools to do. Everyone should look at this video as comedy
@Ajidam
@Ajidam 2 жыл бұрын
You are good example of the madness of the internet. I would bet you voted for Trump, buy Q-Anon books, and are also a flat earther but ok 👍
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 2 жыл бұрын
*_"it's amazing how hard people try to mask the truth."_* You absolute arse. {:-:-:}
@AdvancedLiving
@AdvancedLiving 2 жыл бұрын
*you’re
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 2 жыл бұрын
@@AdvancedLiving Intresting, isn't it, that all Conspiritards seem to have poor education and dreadful grammar, spelling and punctuation? {:-:-:}
@BazNard
@BazNard 2 жыл бұрын
Gormless
@intergalacticmeow
@intergalacticmeow Жыл бұрын
You could write an entire encyclopedia library on the things that Brian Forrester gets wrong
@Ugly_German_Truths
@Ugly_German_Truths Жыл бұрын
Isn't that just called "history, engineering and architecture"?
@intergalacticmeow
@intergalacticmeow Жыл бұрын
@@Ugly_German_Truths not according to Graham Hancock
@waltherforstmann3659
@waltherforstmann3659 Жыл бұрын
And that boob of a human, is on AA 1/3 of the time, as a respective authority. He only has a HS diploma, and I'm not joking. He writes books entitled, "How Bigfoot COULD have shot JFK, and got away with it, with the help of Aliens."
@intergalacticmeow
@intergalacticmeow Жыл бұрын
@@waltherforstmann3659 this form of anti intellectual sells and sadly it harm's the progress of us all
@harrowgateguy
@harrowgateguy 11 ай бұрын
Forrester may not get everything right but he points out many things that contradict the official story of ancient history and the 25 books he has written sell well.
@matthewconstantine5015
@matthewconstantine5015 2 жыл бұрын
What kills me about all these "ancient aliens"/"ancient civilization" people step over a hundred pieces of data to pick up five or six random bits, then weave a narrative whole cloth that ignores 99% of the actual evidence, but fits comfortably into whatever vague nonsense they're selling.
@edwardfletcher7790
@edwardfletcher7790 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly ! They never present a cohesive argument, just their cherry picked convenient facts...
@thatsmyassbrostop
@thatsmyassbrostop 2 жыл бұрын
That’s basically how the mainstream opinions were also formed. That’s really how it goes when you’re trying to assemble a cohesive picture of the ancient past. It’s all more of an interpretation which is why archaeology isn’t really a science. It’s competing belief systems where very few people are ever truly objective. Most theories in both the mainstream and alternative sides get some things right but likely miss a large portion. In the future we may view our current understanding as ass backwards. Hard to tell since it potentially only takes one turn of the spade to make us question everything. I feel like they present pretty cohesive arguments. Both sides do. Doesn’t make them correct and neither has to be 100% right or wrong.
@edwardfletcher7790
@edwardfletcher7790 2 жыл бұрын
@@thatsmyassbrostop Your statement that science fact presented by qualified scientists is a "belief system" highlights why unqualified people think it's totally fine to believe in crazy conspiracies ! The Dunning Kruger effect in action.... SIGH
@thatsmyassbrostop
@thatsmyassbrostop 2 жыл бұрын
@@edwardfletcher7790 are you unaware of how often “qualified” scientists have been wrong about something, often for quite a long time, because they assumed or took things for granted? We forget about when they where wrong after the fact but the majority of scientific history is being wrong. Science shouldn’t be about belief in any theories but unfortunately science is done by humans, who have things such as ego, pride and greed. I’m also not so sure that you know what a conspiracy theory is. Lol. Having a different opinion about history is not a conspiracy theory. It’s a regular theory, just like the mainstream interpretation. They’re all just theories. You call it a “conspiracy theory” as an ad hom so that you can feel better about outright dismissing it. It’s an overcompensation. You mention the dunning-Kruger effect however you’re the one speaking from arrogance here. It’s ok to say that you don’t know, which is what most alternative history people suppose.
@edwardfletcher7790
@edwardfletcher7790 2 жыл бұрын
@@thatsmyassbrostop I guess I should have expected a rant instead of meaningful discourse.... SIGH
@joeluna7729
@joeluna7729 2 жыл бұрын
When they Romans needed to build a mountain (ramp) to siege Masada (1,500 feet), it only took them between 4-7 months. About half a year to make a small mountain and attack it with battering rams. So of course they could build Ba'albek.
@noway8233
@noway8233 2 жыл бұрын
Yes , of course as we are ignorants its pretty easy to say "yuo cant move this" cuase its very dificult to us , but in fact with simple techiques yuo can do it. Ther many know examples about that
@joeluna7729
@joeluna7729 2 жыл бұрын
@@noway8233 Yes. Thank You :)
@charlesbrown9213
@charlesbrown9213 2 жыл бұрын
@Joe -- Masada? Brian Foerster has single-handedly uncovered "proof" that an advanced Megalithic civilization travelled in time to Roman Judea, built the siege fortifications at Masada, then returned to their own time. Foerster will present this truth, but only to those who buy into his next trip to the "sacred sites".
@DOOMGROOM
@DOOMGROOM 2 жыл бұрын
The Romans worked in much lighter weights. Piling up rubble that weighs 150 tons and moving a 150 ton piece of granite are widely different projects.
@jedicouncilelonmusk
@jedicouncilelonmusk 2 жыл бұрын
@@DOOMGROOM yeah a worrior nation they conquered cities.. don't recall building them.
@joearnold6881
@joearnold6881 Жыл бұрын
That guy is absolutely pretending to give a talk to a room, but when he looks up he only ever looks at the camera
@Yeoldelole
@Yeoldelole 4 ай бұрын
That is funny and clever of you, and while I agree with your sentiment, a guy who regularly gets over 300,000 views on his videos would not struggle to fill a 30 person room.
@eky
@eky Ай бұрын
@@Yeoldelole it's entirely possible for a guy who's enlightened to the existence of ancient alien technology to film a fake ted talk
@Yeoldelole
@Yeoldelole Ай бұрын
@@eky I agree that it’s entirely possible, but he has drawn a lot of crowds at a lot of events for a lot of years. There’s no actual reason to assume that’s the case in any given video with him appearing to be on stage.
@eky
@eky Ай бұрын
@@Yeoldelole yea i guess you convinced me, i can see it might be simply badly produced (acam's razor applies not just to lost high tech lol). You convinced me, in that case i imagine the point of the original commenter was that the guy was cooky enough do such a thing. Or maybe to bring to mind tiktokers that film fake podcast clips
@Yeoldelole
@Yeoldelole Ай бұрын
@@eky oh he’s definitely nuts
@robswright68
@robswright68 3 жыл бұрын
The megaliths of Baalbek are definitely Pre-Inca.
@laurieschwisow210
@laurieschwisow210 3 жыл бұрын
lol
@mariolongtin8271
@mariolongtin8271 3 жыл бұрын
Yes by the killke culture
@russellmillar7132
@russellmillar7132 3 жыл бұрын
LOFL
@stollinroned5090
@stollinroned5090 3 жыл бұрын
λεεεεελ
@krixpop
@krixpop 3 жыл бұрын
😲
@Usumgallu
@Usumgallu 2 жыл бұрын
Perfectly laser round. Perfectly laser smooth. Perfectly laser straight. Perfectly laser flat. I wish the Roman masons were here to hear that.
@WorldofAntiquity
@WorldofAntiquity 2 жыл бұрын
They would be proud, for sure.
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 2 жыл бұрын
*_"Perfectly laser round. Perfectly laser smooth. Perfectly laser straight. Perfectly laser flat."_* But none of those artifacts actually exhibit those properties. {:-:-:}
@AdvancedLiving
@AdvancedLiving 2 жыл бұрын
They would ask “what’s a laser?”
@dirtysouthclimbing
@dirtysouthclimbing 2 жыл бұрын
Back patting is loud here.
@michaelpettersson4919
@michaelpettersson4919 Жыл бұрын
Once someone explained to them what a laser are they would probably laugh.
@DwayneShaw1
@DwayneShaw1 2 жыл бұрын
those who doubt human ability to move large objects with simple techniques should look up the well documented 'Thunder Stone" moved to St. Petersburg in the 1700's - or how the City of Chicago, including massive buildings, was raised several feet in the 1800's using little more than the simple ancient technology of screw jacks.
@DwayneShaw1
@DwayneShaw1 10 ай бұрын
@@haaggus kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oJ-nYMxm1MDVkYU.html
@SkywalkerExpress
@SkywalkerExpress 9 ай бұрын
@@haaggus the fact that those Obelix were transported from Egypt and erected in Rome is a prove that people could move large objects.
@Soapy-chan
@Soapy-chan 8 ай бұрын
​@@haagguswat
@Qingeaton
@Qingeaton Ай бұрын
Yeah, that raising of Chicago is unreal.
@michaelmurray6577
@michaelmurray6577 20 күн бұрын
You better look deeper into the thunderstone story. There are a lot of weird things, many people mentioned the statue before it was supposedly erected and the stone was mentioned too. There are books, paintings and notes by a variety of people. The dates dont add up and if you look closely to the inscriptions they have also been changed. The statue might actually be of alexander the great. Dont take my word for it, look it up.
@nickholl
@nickholl Жыл бұрын
I love how you're debunking these claims - in a calm and polite way (unlike some other channels out there) Out of interest, would you have any vids on the marks and holes in Egyptian granite, some are claiming were created using circular saws and tube drills?
@WorldofAntiquity
@WorldofAntiquity Жыл бұрын
There is a section in my Historian Reacts video about it. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pMV-mtiLuqrPpWg.html
@harrywalker968
@harrywalker968 6 ай бұрын
roman origin,,i laugh.. we can not today, hewn out granite, 600t blocks, transport over mountains.500 miles... you are a joke.. you are mainstream bs.. i hope your paid well to lie, for a living..@@WorldofAntiquity
@olorin4317
@olorin4317 3 жыл бұрын
27:30 He IS just eyeballing it. Notice how the pictures are always at an angle. They never show the straight edge actually close up touching the stone. Also, any tradesman worth a damn would use a longer straight edge on such a large surface.
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 2 жыл бұрын
I have seen Lyin' Brien Fraudster and David Hatcehtjob-Childish make these claims when you could see light shining through the huge gap between their set square and the stone. {:-:-:}
@MrAchile13
@MrAchile13 3 жыл бұрын
The frustration of Forester's cult followers in this comment section is truly astonishing.
@e7ebr0w
@e7ebr0w 2 жыл бұрын
why does everyone call it a cult? I've received more cult like behavior from the mainstream folk than I have from any "cult" members
@MrAchile13
@MrAchile13 2 жыл бұрын
@@e7ebr0w from personal experience, after talking with plenty of "believers". They display the same tought patterns, cognitive dissonance and most important of all, a very arogant Dunning-Krueger effect. Also people who have no arguments, yet throw insults, like our friend above... I'm not denying that the status quo can get to rigid/cult like sometimes and I think we all agree that cultism is bad and should be avoided from all parts.
@e7ebr0w
@e7ebr0w 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrAchile13 obviously so. the funniest thing I've come across would have to be a channel called sgd sacred geometry decided... or something similar. it's the craziest thing watching someone argue with narratives such as uncharted x and Brien by using even crazier arguments sometimes. I just wonder why people are worried about disrupting that "side of the fence" anyway. we all get taught the history in school, those people afterward just chose to wonder.... don't understand the strongly felt need to bring them back so to speak
@e7ebr0w
@e7ebr0w 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrAchile13 but as a point, in today's world, even ideas that aren't completely fringe, yet border on opposition to the current "narrative" are ridiculed so fervently, most people choose not to think out of the box. To me, it's always been insane to me that people today are so high and proud of themselves that they truly believe they understand how ancient man did anything.... so many years separate our times, and every day we discover new clues that argue with the current history. to think anything is impossible in the 100000 years humans have existed is crazy to me. the inhabitants of north sentinel island have been secluded there for 60000 years, and I get that it's an island, but they've done not much as far as monuments. Easter island for what I understand is pretty small, yet the Rapanui constructed the Moi (don't know how to spell it). One one hand it's absurd to think we know everything, but on the other, it's absurd that archaeology is the only science that makes conclusions from absence of evidence
@MrAchile13
@MrAchile13 2 жыл бұрын
@@e7ebr0w The problem is that people like uncharted x and forester are frauds. They literally lie on camera, cherry pick data and use logical fallacies, in order to make money form the gullible. And I'm not talking only about you tube and patreon, but about their insanely over priced tours. If you point out their lies, they will ban you from their channels. All the talk about machine precision/high tech tool and lost global highly advanced civilizations is nonsense and I can explain in detail why, if you're interested. Archaeology is backed up by evidence, for the most part, the ones making conclusion from nothing are the the ones like uncharted and forester. Forester is such a fraud that he literally called pick axe marks "mysterious claw marks". The Moai are simple statues, all you need is skill, people, wood, rope and stone hammers.
@robertbrennan2268
@robertbrennan2268 2 жыл бұрын
Dr Miano once again provides a highly informative refutation of Foerster's wild assertions. "World of Antiquity" is very educative in that you learn a great deal sound history in the process of watching the refutation of these conjectures that are relentlessly presented by Brien Foerster as proper research. Thank you Dr Miano.
@MrDOB1000
@MrDOB1000 2 жыл бұрын
What is conjecture is exactly what the guides say if you visit such sites. They don't have aclue themselves. Although you probably need more imagination to think slaves / stone age workers built amazing structures
@Lahtiman81
@Lahtiman81 Жыл бұрын
Lol this Brennan is a joke.
@jamisojo
@jamisojo Жыл бұрын
@@MrDOB1000 Stone age builders built all kinds of cool stuff. And bronze age people built the pyramids.
@bobbykiefer4306
@bobbykiefer4306 19 күн бұрын
Ancient Greeks called a lot of this Cyclopean Masonry and said non humans built them. There are a lot of unanswered questions about these structures.
@Follower_Of_Xi_Jinping_Pooh
@Follower_Of_Xi_Jinping_Pooh 2 жыл бұрын
"Ahhh, another giant rock, ancient high technology spotted!" These guys are crazy. Generalizing everything, undermining the intelligence and ingenuity of these ancient civilizations.
@robbuelens
@robbuelens 2 жыл бұрын
When me and my two brothers were children we went to a living history stone age theme park, there was a boulder about the size of a small car on logs with ropes attached on it to try it out we got it to move it without effort, these people are either idiots, liars or extremely weak themselves.
@robbuelens
@robbuelens 2 жыл бұрын
@@tilleryinnovations592 That big blocks of rock can be moved with enough manpower with ease. Proving the floaty pseudohistorians who think it could not be done back then wrong.
@shaolin1derpalm
@shaolin1derpalm 2 жыл бұрын
Ummm.. that more people could move larger stones further? It's not difficult to surmise. "Think for yourself". If you make a recipe by grams instead of volume, you can multiply or divide up to a very large point. As Recipe, so Stone moving.
@dgafbrapman688
@dgafbrapman688 2 жыл бұрын
engineers have looked at hypothetically moving the trilithon stones, most say it cant be done as the rock would crumble under its own weight once lifted. Some say it could be lifted and maybe moved a short distance but it would take the largest most capable machines we have to do it and even then, theyd barely make it.
@Follower_Of_Xi_Jinping_Pooh
@Follower_Of_Xi_Jinping_Pooh 2 жыл бұрын
@@dgafbrapman688 But which "engineers"?
@holmavik6756
@holmavik6756 Жыл бұрын
Hobby researchers are good with asking clever questions. The problem is their attempt to give answers. They ignore the huge amount of knowledge that exist within ”mainstream academics”, while they base their own (exotic) theories on empty words like ”obviously” or ”unquestionably”. Mainstream academia may not be perfect, but we do have the ability to persevere with a problem until it is solved and then carefully document it.
@larrylarz562
@larrylarz562 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Why are we taught that ancient people were ignorant brutes? Their lives were very simple compared to ours. They had a lot of time to master stone working!
@jelink22
@jelink22 2 жыл бұрын
WHO ever taught you the ancients were ignorant brutes??? I'm a geezer, and a well-educated one at that, INCLUDING a History degree, among others. In NONE of my history courses was that claim ever made. Instead, my professors always maraveled at what the ancients did, with the tools and concepts they had at hand.
@rushfan9thcmd
@rushfan9thcmd 2 жыл бұрын
Mastered stonework with copper tools that today's geniuses can't figure out. They also mastered the stars and advanced mathematics.
@spokenclawm.4121
@spokenclawm.4121 2 жыл бұрын
@@jelink22 Its relatively common in, well lets call it standard education, like in most middle and high schools where all of pre industrial history is done in 2 years
@dfkw7385
@dfkw7385 2 жыл бұрын
You are 100pc right
@rushfan9thcmd
@rushfan9thcmd 2 жыл бұрын
@@spokenclawm.4121 They like to never speak about using softer compounds against much harder surfaces, to precision. No duplications have been done either.
@whyjnot420
@whyjnot420 Жыл бұрын
I personally have used stones larger than cars in constructing retaining walls. So, am I a megalithic craftsman or builder? (tbh, I guess I almost am... it is that pesky "happened a decade or so ago" part that prevents it from being actually true, given that the term is properly applied to things from the distant past, not-so-much stuff from just a few years ago.) Working with stone of that size really made me appreciate just how skilled people in the past were. It is almost trivial today (almost, because safety is a concern) with the power equipment like the excavators we had. I never really get how people go from "damn, I am impressed that they could do this all those thousands of years ago." to "no way in hell they did this." I mean, it is obvious that it was done, as you can see these all over, someone had to do it and adding in some "other" that did the work with no evidence of this "other" existing, or existing in that area, is one hell of a leap. addendum: We would joke about creating megaliths when we did work like that. And to be fair the word in itself only means giant motherf---er of a stone. And I guess that in the eyes of someone 3k years from now, maybe we did create some megaliths. edit: I don't have a problem with people who, due to lack of knowledge, say things like "I find it hard to believe that _____ built this." That is healthy skepticism. I draw a line when people outright refuse to believe that people could build these things when shown evidence that they did in fact build them. There is no "change my mind" philosophy behind such statements, while that is very much a part of a scientific mindset.
@oftin_wong
@oftin_wong Жыл бұрын
I built a limestone shed I used really big blocks on the bottom and smaller blocks as I went up the wall ...it was easier than lifting the big blocks Groundbreaking facts Also you can't achieve curves and arches with massive blocks up top
@Eyes_Open
@Eyes_Open Жыл бұрын
Wait. If you have large blocks on the bottom and smaller blocks on top, then it is evidence that a lost civilization built the bottom and you just came later and built on top and now take all the credit.
@oftin_wong
@oftin_wong Жыл бұрын
@@Eyes_Open yes it's evidence that there was a high technology that was bigger than the low technology ...and I guess I must be megalithic ...
@SeanMahoneyfitnessandart
@SeanMahoneyfitnessandart Жыл бұрын
@norbertdjihnson if there was a civilization more advanced than ours, please, do tell, where is the material evidence? Yall love to talk about high technology... but where is it? Let's see one shred... thats all it would take... one single USB port, 1 miniscule insulated copper wire, 1 single fiber of synthetic fabric or materials... but alas.. there is none. If the ancients were so technologically advanced, why did they only build in stone? Why no glass and steel sky scrapers? Where's all the old broken computers and evidence of manufacturing plants, power plants (no the pyramids were not power plants... good lord) .... anything? Where is it? Ohhhh.... right... it doesn't exist. Because it never did.
@Catonius
@Catonius 5 ай бұрын
Shed?! you can't fool me, you're a martian from Atlantis.
@PRH123
@PRH123 5 ай бұрын
​@@Eyes_Open megalithic shed :)
@issakandah1936
@issakandah1936 2 жыл бұрын
Also he wasn’t talking about all the granite pillars he was implying the few stones that are insanely huge , if you are from the Middle East you know a lot of the Roman and Greeks actually built over these places that already existed and claimed it as if they built it . Certain things they did build but others hey didn’t
@markfelix8737
@markfelix8737 2 жыл бұрын
The stones you mention weigh 200,000 tons each and the video guy thinks the obelisks were the hardest thing to carry. They were because they didn't lay the 200,000 ton stones, someone else did much earlier.
@imushrooms5388
@imushrooms5388 2 жыл бұрын
@@markfelix8737 what do you mean by 200,000 the biggest one there is around 1200 tons
@rbelf001
@rbelf001 2 жыл бұрын
This guy has an agenda. A fake scholar.
@anibaldamiao
@anibaldamiao 2 жыл бұрын
@@markfelix8737 caçula te the volume of 200000 tons and you’ll quickly see that your perception is way off
@markfelix8737
@markfelix8737 2 жыл бұрын
@@anibaldamiao 200,000 tons × 2,000 = 400,000,000 lbs. Is that more clear?
@BenMonroe964
@BenMonroe964 2 жыл бұрын
I think what the alternate history fans have to answer is why is it that Rome happened to be founded in a field of random Egyptian obelisks, that didn't influence Roman culture, and weren't even mentioned until they had to make up stories on how they were moved there. Really the late antiquity emperors were quite lucky no one had mentioned some of the largest obelisks until they came to power. And if these alternate history fans can admit that these giant objects were moved by the Romans, why is it that other objects couldn't have been moved by the Romans?
@szendrenko
@szendrenko Жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to make this detailed video. It's shocking how many people believe that Santa Claus built anything that they are too lazy to do the science on. Guess what? People can move mountains when they are motivated.
@Chris.Davies
@Chris.Davies 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't it funny, that Brien reads his entire presentation, and can never once bring his eyes to the audience while he is speaking? This is very clear body language which says "I'm lying to you all but can't look you in the eye while I'm doing it." Either that or, "Despite saying the exact same stuff for many years, I still can't remember a single sentence of my presentation."
@danielsonlisik534
@danielsonlisik534 2 жыл бұрын
I wish people would realize that learning how those people made those structures is much more interesting than fairytales and conspiracy theories.
@j.christie2594
@j.christie2594 2 жыл бұрын
religion, is more intresting when you kNOw how it's REALLY, about Injustice, Bigotry, Chuavanism and Exploitation, Chronologicallly Proven. Yet they all CLaim, to be about love and Honesty.
@bobbykiefer4306
@bobbykiefer4306 19 күн бұрын
Ancient Greeks called a lot of this Cyclopean Masonry and said non humans built them. There are lots of unanswered questions to digest.
@arthurfields9575
@arthurfields9575 3 жыл бұрын
How is this guy not laughed out of giving lectures talking about his crazy ideas and theories for history? He really does have a low opinion of ancient human builders. The ancients are way more capable and intelligent than we give them credit for.
@WorldofAntiquity
@WorldofAntiquity 3 жыл бұрын
I know, right?
@Rogier182
@Rogier182 2 жыл бұрын
Ancient builders yes but most certainly not done by old Kingdom Egyptians. They simply inherited these objects. The super high grade precision could never been achieved with copper tools and sticks. There was an older civilisation with superior technology who did this. So yes you are fooling yourselves here on this channel, but be aware that history books will be rewritten cause new evidence is found every day in every corner of the world.
@Rogier182
@Rogier182 2 жыл бұрын
@@WorldofAntiquity point is you do not know lmao so arrogant stating that you know 🙄
@bobwilson7684
@bobwilson7684 2 жыл бұрын
a real incestigation, real numbers in present times kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hZ-Khbt0npvVfac.html
@Follower_Of_Xi_Jinping_Pooh
@Follower_Of_Xi_Jinping_Pooh 2 жыл бұрын
Foerster in the future seeing ruins of Burj Khalifa: "Ancient high technology culture from 30,000 years ago!! Can't be the people from that time 2000 years ago, 'cause they are dumb, stupid and primitive!"
@keithhutchins8803
@keithhutchins8803 Жыл бұрын
Dang I feel silly, I fell for this nonsense. I'm glad I found your channel!
@AdrianMartinezoo1
@AdrianMartinezoo1 2 жыл бұрын
I'm no archaeologist but i like history you make a great point about the smaller work beneath the monoliths and when I seen one of their other videos before yours I saw in south America smaller work like the top of monoliths underneath and always wondered how they came to these conclusions but anyway thanks professor!!!
@douggoble9695
@douggoble9695 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to ask the builders did you save time cutting & moving huge stones vs: cutting up smaller stones making the moving less difficult? Or did you incorporate huge stones for earthquakes?
@matveyshishov
@matveyshishov 2 жыл бұрын
That's a great question, thank you so much!
@douggoble9695
@douggoble9695 2 жыл бұрын
@@matveyshishov Thank you, that comment made my day! ❤️
@olivervision
@olivervision 2 жыл бұрын
The quarries were usually quite some distance.. Why make 10000 trips when you can just make one?
@matveyshishov
@matveyshishov 2 жыл бұрын
@@olivervision Why aren't all Roman temples megalithic then?
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 2 жыл бұрын
*_"did you save time cutting & moving huge stones vs: cutting up smaller stones making the moving less difficult?"_* That would make it _more_ difficult. It was easier for them to cut one 100 ton block than 100 one tonne blocks, and easier and quicker to move it, too. Think of the extra time cutting and the extra surface area that needed to be shaped. {:-:-:}
@AdvancedLiving
@AdvancedLiving 3 жыл бұрын
Funny thing about Brien is that his books and lectures are pretty much the same things, almost word for word. If you heard a lecture, you might as well have read his book. Apparently he’s teaming up with Jimmy Atlantis, which is a huge step backwards if you ask me.
@AdvancedLiving
@AdvancedLiving 3 жыл бұрын
“Did you really say ‘hitherto unknown’?” “Are you really leaning on the Cauldron of the Cosmos?” *SMACK
@naciremasti
@naciremasti 3 жыл бұрын
Jimmy Atlantis, hahahahah. you won the internet for today with that one.
@Joe-King
@Joe-King 3 жыл бұрын
I keep posting links on Jimmy's no so Bright videos...instant delete. He's either monitoring or paying someone, i guess the grift does pay.
@cameronbartlett6593
@cameronbartlett6593 3 жыл бұрын
Jimmy is a douche and Brien needs a new hat.
@mariolongtin8271
@mariolongtin8271 3 жыл бұрын
Yes most of his videos he just repeats the same thing just different sites lol never anything new to say.
@oldguy6976
@oldguy6976 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful debunk. You are a gift to proper research and LOGIC.
@PyroChimp75
@PyroChimp75 Жыл бұрын
Whats more impressive than the monuments themselves is people two thousand years later refuse to believe people made them. That's how you know you where working with artisans not just simple masons.
@SacredGeometryDecoded
@SacredGeometryDecoded 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent work again. The way he definitively makes statements about what Romans could and could not do shows he has zero interest in truth. It is about preserving the business model. For all the things that might be argued that he doesn't know basic facts on stone work, and makes a business of talking about stone, shows either total laziness in the issues he pretends to be passionate about, or shows he does know the basics but peddles falsehoods to preserve his profit margin.
@polycarp1334
@polycarp1334 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this commentary on Brian foresters work. I've been watching his videos (and others like him) for a couple of years now. And haven't been able to find anyone to refute what they are saying. Until now. Instead of just calling him a nut job. You used a lot of facts to back up your position and refute his. You channel is exactly what I've been looking for, thank you very much for this informative presentation. I look forward to hearing the response that he (Brian forester) might have for you. If he responds.
@Grit1234567
@Grit1234567 2 жыл бұрын
"Dude, there's no way that ancient people could've made these!" "So here's a passage from back then detailing how they made these..."
@miepmiepzoefzoef
@miepmiepzoefzoef 2 жыл бұрын
All based on racist ideas from the 1800's. "Only white Europeans could have built the pyramids. The Egyptians are to stupid for it". The stupid racist conspiracy is already 200 years old!
@rcrawford42
@rcrawford42 11 ай бұрын
An obelisk taken to Constantinople was set upon a base that is carved with a scene of it being raised with ropes and pullies. Also, it's set on lead blocks, which apparently act as shock absorbers during earthquakes.
@troy5731
@troy5731 2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the "giant lathe" and megalithic rock transporter slide shows by Brian.
@akshayferrao2158
@akshayferrao2158 2 жыл бұрын
You should visit the temples in south India. It will blow your mind when you see chains made out of granite and a whole temple carved out of a a hill & also the pillars at the Warangal Temple and the extremely precise ceiling carvings. I would really love your explanation on that. Also explain how Angkor wat temple was made.
@paulgrant285
@paulgrant285 2 жыл бұрын
You cant even get your head around how complicated and impossible that is!
@allenanderson2129
@allenanderson2129 2 жыл бұрын
Very carefully
@Bulg329
@Bulg329 2 жыл бұрын
What's your explanation? Aliens, Demons, Gods?
@GroberWeisenstein
@GroberWeisenstein 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bulg329 men with extended hands in the form of chisels
@sereanaduwai8313
@sereanaduwai8313 2 жыл бұрын
That will kicked him in the head. Or maybe he will have an explanation of how those granite chains hanging from the ends of those Temples were made and also hung up.
@alexfang2581
@alexfang2581 4 ай бұрын
Brien: Roman Engineering did not exist. David: Hold my beer ...
@andrewvoros4037
@andrewvoros4037 3 ай бұрын
An interesting point about the columns on the Pantheon: these columns (their origins are correctly stated) were not made for the Pantheon; archaeological work unearthed the original plan of that building on the ground right before it (probably as a builder's aid). The original plan was for taller columns, but the columns made for it sank in a storm during transport in the Mediterranean. The Pantheon was to be completed by a very important religious/political festival, so the existing columns were "robbed" off of another, smaller temple. The Pantheon, essentially a large sphere with a rectangular box attached, had to have an extra raised box added to it, which can be seen when looking at the front elevation. The extra box had to be added to balance the proportions, because the columns used were too short. Interestingly, an analogous example exists in Colonial Williamsburg, (Williamsburg, Virginia) which was the British capital of the American colonies before the Revolution. The pediment extending over the porch of the Court House simply hangs in the air with no columns beneath it (that wooden pediment is actually cantilevered from the main structure and columns are not structural requirements). The Brits had made and shipped stone columns for the Court House, but they sank into the Atlantic during a storm while on their way. So the pediment simply hovers over the porch to this day.
@BjorckBengt
@BjorckBengt 2 жыл бұрын
What about the perfectly shaped caves in granite in India? There are quite a few artifacts and examples which cannot be explained with "many people simple tools" theories. Look at the granite boxes in serpeum for instance. No way they are made with simple chisels. I support critical debate and this is a good contribution, but it definitely do not debunk "extinct high civilisation" theories.
@rahulmenon4357
@rahulmenon4357 2 жыл бұрын
Yes you are looking at an extinct high civilisation, but you seem unsatisfied with that explanation. I don't understand you guys - ancient peoples made all this shit to tell us who they were and people like you piss all over it with this "aliens" or "ancient Apple Corporation" shit. Here's the secret - they fucking used their brains and backs to make these things. You know how we find out about ancient advanced machinery (aka simple cranes)? By fucking actually looking for tools and not spacecraft debris.
@aronato9524
@aronato9524 2 жыл бұрын
“No way they were made with simple tools”? How do you know? Seriously… Are you an expert? If somebody spends their entire life working at a certain job they’re going to be expert at it, there’s no TV… There’s barely any other distractions people are working 10 hours a day… And that’s all they’ve got to focus on, and you don’t think they can make something that looks perfect?
@archie6962
@archie6962 2 жыл бұрын
@@aronato9524 We can’t recreate some of the old megalith stone work and structures today with our modern tools. Still you think that ancient man did all this with simple copper chisels ? Open your mind and eyes !
@Joe-King
@Joe-King 2 жыл бұрын
What about the caves... this videos on heliopolis Baalbek isn't it?
@keirfarnum6811
@keirfarnum6811 2 жыл бұрын
@@archie6962 That’s not an argument. We don’t have a civilization devoted to making such megalithic (to use this term correctly) structures. Ancient civilizations made all kinds of structures with stone and were far more acquainted with the techniques for working it than we are. Our advanced technologies are devoted towards other purposes since it’s just not as necessary to make such structures. It’s just not cost effective for us and isn’t worth putting the resources into compared to building a space telescope. The “we can’t do it now” argument is no argument. These ancient civilizations were masters at working with stone and obviously developed techniques that we haven’t thought of. If we started devoting our time and energy to building such structures, we would no doubt quickly rediscover such techniques. You’re essentially engaging in a form of chauvinism regarding modern civilization and how it views past peoples.
@PhantomCatMusic
@PhantomCatMusic 2 жыл бұрын
There should be a Nobel price for fact checking.
@C4Vendetta
@C4Vendetta 2 жыл бұрын
Holy Shit! The comments on this video?! I’m so sorry so many people cannot appreciate your scientific spirit. I loved your video and am really thankful for the work that went into it!
@WeallAreAdults
@WeallAreAdults 2 жыл бұрын
it's because people refuse to be sheep, atleast most of us. unlike you
@johnwalker1553
@johnwalker1553 2 жыл бұрын
Stop making Blabla and work for a Year on building sites. If you done we talk again.
@leonardmead1425
@leonardmead1425 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to know how the Egyptians cut those boxes out of the one piece of stone and cut angles to within a thousandth of an inch. Today's technology can't do this. There has been plenty of attempts at recreating thongs like those boxes or even pyramids on a smaller scale and they always fail. Let's face it, a lot of these historians were pist off at gobeklitepi lol, they didn't know what to say..lol.....What was it they ended up saying? Yeah, hunter gatherers did it lol one day...lol
@fixbertha
@fixbertha 2 жыл бұрын
Scientific spirit requires some demonstration of capability. Saying, "It was done with primitive tools and methods" means nothing without at least some demonstration of those methods. "It's silly to think that any advanced civilization existed before ours" is not a scientific approach. Look at Sacsayhuaman and demonstrate a method of making and fitting even the smaller wall stones with that precision with pounding stones and rope.
@jamisojo
@jamisojo Жыл бұрын
@@leonardmead1425 omg. Can you even hear yourself? Angles are measured in degrees, not thousands of inches. And they didn't hold tolerances to 1000ths of inches. Just because some doofus on a video told you everything is "precise" doesn't mean that it actually is. None of that is true. Furthermore, we most certainly can hold those tolerances today. And not to the thousandth of an inch... But to the 10th of a thousandths of an inch. You are repeating what some fool said. Try not to be so gullible in the future.
@hibernative
@hibernative 3 жыл бұрын
Foerster was one of the first getting me curious and asking questions, but I agree that some of his theories can be a bit tedious. Especially when he walks around Egypt and talks about everything having heat damage from some cataclysmic event.
@maherm7861
@maherm7861 3 жыл бұрын
Forester tells the truth, the real story, but the stupid man in this video deceives us, ask him who built alora caves or anghor wat or serapuem tombs, of course it was built by lost technology that completely disappeared
@remember_Pat_Tillman
@remember_Pat_Tillman 2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand how his anomalies are all " cataclysmic events.
@mikec4196
@mikec4196 2 жыл бұрын
Actually there is evidence of this heat damage everywhere you look on earth. A cataclysm definitely happened in that era.
@remember_Pat_Tillman
@remember_Pat_Tillman 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikec4196 not "everywhere" only on select spots
@mikec4196
@mikec4196 2 жыл бұрын
@@remember_Pat_Tillman Depends on the lens you look through. There is a preponderance amount of evidence that points to ionic winds and plasma discharges creating many of the "geological" features we observe. "Shock quartz', spheracles, scalloped ridges, triangle buttresses, crater chains, and terraced blisters are all common, and predicted by plasma discharge. Technically, its probable our geography was sculpted by plasma discharge in preexisting epochs.
@thylacinenv
@thylacinenv 3 жыл бұрын
"Lemurian Blue" granite for example varies in hardness over its surface making consistent polishing a challenge, the harder the granite the easier it is to polish the less dense areas appearing dull by contrast so including granite in the mohs scale is a generalisation. Modern masons use "Jenny Lind" polishing machines and chemical colour enhancers to achieve consistency, notably on black granite. These outstanding ancient masons would be familiar with tools found in modern studios such as bow saws, French drags, tooth axes, Crandall and bushing hammers, etc. I would respectfully suggest that all these disciples of Mr Hancock visit a Stone masons yard and be educated in the movement, cutting and polishing of stone without the use of diamond tools. A friend of mine recently observed masons at work in India, not a diamond tool in sight. Thankyou as always for a great presentation.
@lakrids-pibe
@lakrids-pibe 2 жыл бұрын
French drags? You had my curiosity, but now you have my attention.
@thylacinenv
@thylacinenv 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your interest, sorry to disappoint.....French drags, if you imagine a scrubbing brush with a series of vertical blades facing downwards instead of bristles, sometimes the blades are curved for shaping.
@phantomwalker8251
@phantomwalker8251 2 жыл бұрын
so why isnt there any of these tools or cranes,in museums. & why has no one with this tech,cut,transported,& erected a nice round column. just to prove a point, & then, add up the time taken,to do hundreds if not thousands of these round, & square obelisks. one thing that gets me,are the giant granites,in peru,erected by natives, that have no knowledge today about anything..except,,they did not build them.. the biggest crane today can just lift,transport 600 ton, over a sutable road. not,dirt,stones,ridges..there must of been hundreds of cranes at the sites & ports. where are they. & the huge ships. transport tables. what bearings,wheels did they use. if all this was done before the flood,id say yes,as there would of been a sht load more humans around. if this was after the flood, then we have got a damn site dumber than we were in a very short time. even so, when the romans were in the u.k, we had toilets, after they left,we reverted back & never had toilets for around 1500 yrs..lost tech..
@thylacinenv
@thylacinenv 2 жыл бұрын
@@phantomwalker8251 thankyou for your response. In Cairo museum there is a display of tools used by these ancient masons, many of which are familiar in design to those still used today. History does not develop in a linear pattern, the techniques employed by this great people reached its zenith but declined due to changes in society. If you asked a 100 people at random how to work and move a large lump of stone for most it would be a complete mystery because they are applying modern reasoning, we all use computers but only a tiny selection of the same 100 could build one from scratch, as workers have become specialised. A huge proportion of ancient Egyptian's were employed in the construction of these great works, the nearest example in modern times to this collective mindset and application I suppose is communism where your endeavors were controlled by a privileged elite for as they see it for the common good.
@jamisojo
@jamisojo Жыл бұрын
@@phantomwalker8251 there was no flood... And you don't need cranes to move giant blocks of stone or get them to stand up.
@beameup64
@beameup64 2 жыл бұрын
Stones were recycled from an earlier time. Does he mention the megaliths that were unfinished? They had "scoop marks" at the bedrock that look like ice-cream scoop marks, but they were made in granite. How was that done?
@Eye_of_Horus
@Eye_of_Horus 2 жыл бұрын
They aren’t scoops. They are not uniform. It’s the pattern you get when using stone on stone with the quarrying method of leaving a middle section to break and it’s found in many Stone Age quarries around the world. We still quarry in some instances in the same way and they did it this way all through the Stone Age, Iron Age, and now.
@beameup64
@beameup64 2 жыл бұрын
@@Eye_of_Horus How do you explain the polygonal stone walls in Cusco, Peru where you cannot fit a business card between the cracks? Yet, you cannot find any examples of "scoop marks" in quarries in Peru. There were advanced civilizations long before the "Stone Age" restart.
@Eye_of_Horus
@Eye_of_Horus 2 жыл бұрын
@@beameup64 I used to be very into the alternative like you seem to be. The cuzco walls are impressive. But let’s assume they were hard to explain. Is there anything else, anything else at all that points to a Stone Age civilization with high tech? Keep in mind we have countless archaeological data from all over the globe during the entire Stone Age. And not just stone. There are also some finds of organic material such as baskets, clay pottery, etc. why don’t we find anything in these eras that lends to the idea of an ancient high tech society Anywhere on the earth? With that out of the way, this channel has a video dedicated especially to the polygonal works of Peru. Why we know when and how they were built. It isn’t as much of a mystery as people like foerster try to make it. They are firmly dated to the Inca, and the Spanish even chronicle that they had the Inca build some of these polygonal works FOR them in cuzco for their own buildings.
@jamisojo
@jamisojo Жыл бұрын
@@beameup64 none of what you said is true.
@beameup64
@beameup64 Жыл бұрын
@@jamisojo Unless you have poor eyesight, you can look the world over for the obvious remains of very ancient advanced civilizations literally "etched in (very large) stones". These "monuments" cannot be replicated by today's civilization.
@waynegoddard4065
@waynegoddard4065 2 жыл бұрын
This channel is a breath of fresh air. Actually trying to explain it instead of saying. "Ancient alien theorists believe"
@bobwilson7684
@bobwilson7684 2 жыл бұрын
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@treliaris888
@treliaris888 3 жыл бұрын
What I find more bizarre is where you find the patience to deal with these things. Who are you, The Buddha?
@OAlem
@OAlem 3 жыл бұрын
The Romans couldn't build that far from Rome? He'd be blown away by what they did in Mérida, Spain.
@kennethmoore5458
@kennethmoore5458 2 жыл бұрын
I used to lay tile, usually it was natural stone. Cutting stone is all about abrasion not any unbelievable technology. Straight lines are easily created by a taught string (laser straight). The massive workforce available to the Romans have the potential for massive amounts of work/time reduction. It is not so mysterious. These guys are selling mystery. It sparks the imagination and their claims are exciting but simply absurd.
@TherealVinnie
@TherealVinnie 2 жыл бұрын
Your cutting 3/8-1/4”!thick stone and even then if your using a tile cutter ( no large circular at saw and hose available) you can have something break wrong. Imagine these barbaric size stones and no tech. The number of people makes no difference in the cutting technique only in the transportation etc
@keirfarnum6811
@keirfarnum6811 2 жыл бұрын
@Anno Kitsune I don’t think OP is a king who can command huge numbers of people to do the work.
@Foxglove963
@Foxglove963 2 жыл бұрын
Kenneth More. Well said. Foerster suffers from self delusion, as do quite a few other commentators.
@oftin_wong
@oftin_wong 2 жыл бұрын
@@TherealVinnie the number of people doing anything increases productivity You can have multiple teams cutting stone at different locations to increase productivity ... 2 people work three times faster than 1
@mrjones2721
@mrjones2721 2 жыл бұрын
@@oftin_wong Or you can have multiple teams working on one massive stone, with one team cutting while the other teams rest, repair broken equipment, fetch supplies, etc. We’re so used to super-efficient modern means of production that we forget how many problems used to be solved by throwing more time and people at it. Copper saws would dull too rapidly? Assign guys to swap out and sharpen saws. Cutting through a massive stone would take “too long”? Lengthen the project timeline. These buildings weren’t ordinary shops and houses put up by people who had to finish quickly so they could get back to their regular work. These were palatial buildings funded by fabulously rich people who could afford to pay a full-time workforce. (And grunt labor was cheap.) Overcoming obstacles by adding workers wasn’t a hardship, it was how things were done.
@thomasmcdonald5887
@thomasmcdonald5887 2 жыл бұрын
People in the old times didn’t say I can’t and whine and cry . They just got shit done TOGETHER
@WorldofAntiquity
@WorldofAntiquity 2 жыл бұрын
Very true.
@ArmchairPhilosopher360
@ArmchairPhilosopher360 3 жыл бұрын
I dare you to do a video about Brien Forester being wrong about his signature issue... elongated skulls.
@admiralsquatbar127
@admiralsquatbar127 3 жыл бұрын
I'm going to hazzard a guess and say "It was Aliens".
@WorldofAntiquity
@WorldofAntiquity 3 жыл бұрын
I think he changed his mind on that, didn't he?
@ArmchairPhilosopher360
@ArmchairPhilosopher360 3 жыл бұрын
​@@WorldofAntiquity No. Brien has made elongated skull videos as recently as 1/27/21 (Paracas Wildlife Refuge And Ancient Child Mummy In Peru) and 1/13/21 (Intriguing Ancient Artifacts AT The Penn Museum In Philadelphia). Brien has always maintained that elongated skulls are a separate species and not the result of head-binding techniques.
@leanderfoster3465
@leanderfoster3465 3 жыл бұрын
@@WorldofAntiquity if you look at his instagram page he still most definitely proposes the elongated alien skull theory
@twonumber22
@twonumber22 3 жыл бұрын
So there were aliens and the only proof are their slightly different skulls and sweet granite columns. lol, what
@paulannable3734
@paulannable3734 2 жыл бұрын
Ouch! How long did it take for Brian Foerster to make contact and thank you for correcting his ridiculous ideas and stopping him looking silly? Because that could be his only response, right? My favourite bit was you pointing out the holes drilled in the side in order to move the unmovable giant stone block. Another fantastic debunk.
@Thelaretus
@Thelaretus Жыл бұрын
Foerster probably doesn't believe the obelisk at St. Peter's Square in the Vatican was brought from Egypt as we know it was.
@pcatful
@pcatful 10 ай бұрын
The Romans hauled off huge obelisks from Egypt back to Rome. So they could bring some rocks from anywhere they wanted. It's called history.
@vincentgaulin6663
@vincentgaulin6663 2 жыл бұрын
I love these theories. It’s the tv show timeline on Netflix. You know it’s crap, but it’s somewhat entertaining. You have no ideas how many hours I’ve wasted with friends and colleagues watching documentaries like that. In the end, we would try to proof it, but always failed. LOL
@kalisvarkrom9937
@kalisvarkrom9937 2 жыл бұрын
One of the things that really get me. When someone is looking at something made in past. One of the first thing to come out of their mouth, is they did not have the tools or technology to make some thing like this back then. If they did not have the tools and technology to make it, it then it would be around for them to find it. Then there is the Giza Pyramids. They clam we could build them to day. We could could build them, we have the technology. What we don't have is those that would want to build them. The time and cost to do it, is not worth it to them is the truth of it. This is why we do not have people living on the Moon or Mars right now. It's about coast to do it. and no profit to do it. If there was profit to do it. We would have found a way to do it by now.
@bobwilson7684
@bobwilson7684 2 жыл бұрын
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@fullmetaljackalope8408
@fullmetaljackalope8408 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. And I think that the way we look at their stone creations is how they would look at microchips and stuff we make. We have no idea how and why they made these things because each society has their priorities. Sorry if that didn’t make any sense lol.
@georgesupreme1994
@georgesupreme1994 Жыл бұрын
“A lecture that he made. I’m not sure where”😂
@peterwikvist2433
@peterwikvist2433 2 жыл бұрын
What is up with Brien Foerster and his followers? Roman aqueduct systems, extensive and complex, were built over a period of about 500 years, from 300 B.C. to 200 A.D. The capital in Rome alone had around 11 aqueduct systems supplying freshwater from sources as far as 92 km away. If a culture can build all that, would they not also be able to cut, shape and transport granite? Use logic people.
@massimosquecco8956
@massimosquecco8956 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the meaningful information you spread all over this video. Just respect your lecture. Nothing less!
@GeoffChisholm
@GeoffChisholm 3 жыл бұрын
I'm just guessing here but when he says "Megalithic Age", maybe he's implying the period of time that Stonehenge was constructed, because you know, MYSTERIOUS CONSTRUCTIONS
@NotTheEx
@NotTheEx Жыл бұрын
Your videos are exactly what I wanted to see in history documentaries. It never ceases to amaze me how many incorrect or outright useless videos are out there, all at the top of the search page, luring in all the itchy ears. They sure go out of their way to create a mystic where science and information have already tread and retread. Thanks for giving us the facts.
@hm5142
@hm5142 10 ай бұрын
This is an excellent and interesting video, but it is rather tragic that people like Foerster make this debunking necessary. I wish people would attain some minimal level of competence before spreading their "wisdom" to the world.
@mechanix1228
@mechanix1228 2 жыл бұрын
You know something from the alternative side that is interesting are the protuberances found on the giant stones. You do see it around the world. Was just something small I noticed and what the alternative side likes to point out. I don't buy it was aliens or lost technology for a minute but that is interesting to see that same feature on stones around the world.
@63phillip
@63phillip 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Ancient humans were a lot smarter than we think they were.
@johnwalker1553
@johnwalker1553 2 жыл бұрын
Like Obelix the Gaul ?
@meaninthemirror
@meaninthemirror 2 жыл бұрын
They were smarter because they sanely accepted such extraordinary challenges on every megalithic project they involved?
@nixxxon18
@nixxxon18 2 жыл бұрын
They were not only smart but also far better experts at working stone than what we are today (with manual tools) and Foerster is an arrogant fool who thinks back then they were kind of retarded. So far from the truth.
@floridaman4073
@floridaman4073 2 жыл бұрын
@@littledan6994, the contrary to be honest.
@QUIRK1019
@QUIRK1019 3 жыл бұрын
Somehow, the debunking format draws me in more than just a regular documentary on Baalbek would. I think it's almost like tension and release in music. It keeps the listener engaged
@WorldofAntiquity
@WorldofAntiquity 3 жыл бұрын
Happy to hear that!
@Joe-King
@Joe-King 3 жыл бұрын
Yep! Like a one to five in music...also works on flat earth debunking to. Plus you learn and get entertained.
@polygonalmasonary
@polygonalmasonary 2 жыл бұрын
Except, in the absence of an explanation of how the megaliths, some weighing up to 1000 tons were moved and placed with precision this historian also lacks credibility 🤔😮.
@elihyland4781
@elihyland4781 2 жыл бұрын
Im a total dumb dummy, debunking format forces smart people to explain complicated concepts simply. This channel fckng ruuuuulz
@TheGreatest1974
@TheGreatest1974 6 ай бұрын
I’m SO GLAD you expose these grifters Dr Miano.
@Chris.Davies
@Chris.Davies 2 жыл бұрын
Putting a 50-ton granite column on a lathe is utterly impossible. Sorry ancient tech people. Stone has amazing compressibility, and incredible strength when in compression, just like concrete. But it also has no tensile strength, just like concrete. This is why we have to put reinforcing into concrete, and why we create pre-stressed, and/or post-stressed concrete when it has to span a gap. This is also why natural stone arches are quite rare, always arched, always amazing to see, and why they don't last for long. If you tried to pick up a granite column just by each end, it will immediately snap in the middle. A column is only strong in one direction, downwards! Not sideways! A lathe only supports the workpiece at each end, and it drives only one end. I know this very well, because I have a lathe, and have used them for decades. Wood is a very amazing substance, and it has incredible strength in both compression AND in tension, and that is why we build our houses out of wood. Wood is easy to lathe because it retains a lot of tensile strength even when the cross-section is small. No stone has the tensile strength to support 25 feet of cantilever with just 5 feet of diameter! Only reinforced concrete, or massive and tall wooden beams, or huge steel I-beams can handle such enormous cantilever loads. Unreinforced concrete would fail instantly - just as granite would in the same scenario. So, anyone who suggests you can put a 50-ton, 50-foot piece of stone in a lathe is an absolute idiot and knows nothing about lathes, or stone, or how wood differs from stone. So it is a pretty spectacular failure to anyone with even a little knowledge of the physical world. Once again - sorry, ancient tech guys. I know you really believe this bullshit, but as Mark Twain (Mr Samuel Clemns) famously said, "It is much easier to fool a man than to convince him he has been fooled." The truth hurts you so much, because you are emotionally invested in lies and falsehoods. And to admit you have been deceived, and now wish to understand the facts is a very difficult thing to do, because it involves being honest with yourself, and requires you to admit your mistakes to yourself. That is not an easy thing to do. And once you do accept your mistaken beliefs, you also need to accept what you have done and said in the pursuit of justification for your bizarre beliefs. You have appeared very foolish to a very large number of people. And not just foolish: wilfully and aggressively so. I have been fooled by people in the past. It is no fun, and I feel a bit sad for all of you.
@WorldofAntiquity
@WorldofAntiquity 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent info. Thanks for sharing!
@heisag
@heisag 2 жыл бұрын
Lathes can be vertical too, and they very often are if used to work with large workpieces. If i belive or even think they was used to turn granite columns, no. It be far easier to turn a marking tool around the columns , then go in and hammer down the uneven sections (left by the marking tool). How they actually made them columns , i will not claim to know.
@magdajarco478
@magdajarco478 3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Miano, thank you for the outstanding work you're doing here. This channel is popular science in its truest form - focused on making actual academic knowledge accessible to non-academic people. As a person with a hobbyist interest in ancient history I really appreciate your efforts to give people like me free and easy access to reliable source of knowledge, half of which I could never hope to access, compile and make sense of on my own. When it comes down to it, as a hobbyist history buff I've started from the position not so different than the Ancient Advanced Civilization Fandom - I was fascinated by the world people lived in thousands of years ago and had pretty much no idea how they did stuff back then. I'm not from the USA, so I'm sure my elementary and high school curriculum was different (and the only aspect of antiquity I had to study during my university education was law), but what I've learned back then was mostly about wars and political power structures and biographies of some Important Dead People. There was a fair bit on Important Old Buildings, but it was mostly about what and where those buildings were, not how they were made and how they tied into the broader context of the societies that made them (like the granite shipping industry you've mentioned in this video). So I couldn't have explained HOW Baalbek temple (or Egyptian pyramids, or Mayan, Aztec and Incan temples/cities) were actually built any better than the AAC fandom. And if all I've had to go on was a vague image of a dozen or so guys dabbing at giant stones with chisels the size of my butter knife and paranoid mistrust in academic knowledge, then I suppose I would see ancient aliens as the more plausible explanation as well. Which is my long-winded way of saying - thank you for dismantling that butter-knife-chisel image one video at a time :). If I could be so forward as to make a few requests for future content, I would love to see your video on Petra and Qasr Al Fareed (Bright Insight has a supremely mis-informed video on that topic) or on the stone jars found underneath the Saqqara pyramid (this was something I saw in UnchartedX's video on the supposed unbelievability of the timeline of the Ancient Egypt; there was a few outlandish claims about Turin Kings List papyrus in the same video). I also appreciate that you point out in your videos how equating ancient non-Europeans with primitive people incapable of ingenuity and organization is prejudice (if only subconscious one), but I would love if you'd elaborate more on the subject in future videos. I would be interested in learning not just about the methods of cutting stone, but the organization, scale and specialized skill and knowledge of people involved in building pyramids - the estimated number of workers, who they were, how involved the pharaoh was personally in those building projects (from some claims made by AAC crowd one would think the pharaoh was basically the foreman personally overseeing the horde of unskilled laborers, which I somehow doubt). Once again, thank you for all your work. I look forward to seeing more of your videos.
@WorldofAntiquity
@WorldofAntiquity 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your thoughtful comment, Magda. I am happy to hear you are enjoying the content. I appreciate the suggestions and will probably tackle those subjects in the near future. (I did discuss the stone jars a bit in my Ancient Advanced Machining video.)
@galadrielwoods2332
@galadrielwoods2332 3 жыл бұрын
Do you find it interesting that iron cannot do anything to granite? This guy here thinks it does. Only thing that can work on granite is diamond. Rookie mistake.
@LordDavidVader
@LordDavidVader 2 жыл бұрын
@@galadrielwoods2332 how many times are going to cut and paste this false comment. You can cut granite with copper and an abrasive. This is a proven fact.
@phantomwalker8251
@phantomwalker8251 2 жыл бұрын
@@LordDavidVader how long would it take to polish,turn to a round form,quary the raw stone. & transport,pssibly thousands of these granites.marbles. go ask a real stone mason to show you how they cut marble,granite, then polish it,or make it round. with todays tech,machines. say 1 hr per ft. with your soft copper chisels, days.. go buy some,try it for yourself.. so,explain that all megalithic [ before history], buildings,techniques,world wide , are the same ,and the natives have no idea who built them,but have stories of star gods,that taught humans..
@pallpalsson6574
@pallpalsson6574 2 жыл бұрын
Big lige
@eddcla7766
@eddcla7766 2 жыл бұрын
10" square pressed up against 7ft diameter surface 'It's laser perfect!'
@WorldofAntiquity
@WorldofAntiquity 2 жыл бұрын
Haha I know, right?
@eddcla7766
@eddcla7766 2 жыл бұрын
@@WorldofAntiquity On the subject of 'impossible ancient flatness', I use hand scraped surface plates at work, and have seen granite surface tables prepared with the Whitworth 3-plate method, both manual processes and requiring no 'high technology'. Lapping in a similar manner would allow for ancient craftsmen to achieve high levels of flatness, it's just enormously time consuming, and by no means perfect. Thank you for your video, I've only just come across the channel but I look forward to learning from your content, there are too few rational voices challenging the esotericists.
@Rogier182
@Rogier182 2 жыл бұрын
@@WorldofAntiquity no you don't know. Stop saying that hahahaha noob
@Rogier182
@Rogier182 2 жыл бұрын
@@eddcla7766 ok so how did they move these giant stones? Wooden rollers? They must have cut every tree in Egypt in order to do that and oh yeah loads of desert terrain to cross... Something else happend and this channel won't give you the answers but only mislead you...
@eddcla7766
@eddcla7766 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rogier182 With respect to this particular site, Baalbek is in Lebanon, known since the most ancient times for its cedar trees and lumber industry, lebanese cedar is found in use all over the ancient world. The Egyptians recorded themselves using sleds for their masonry transport, though I'm sure the method was appropriate to the application for each job. As for the method at Baalbek used by the Romans, rollers makes the most sense due to the abundance of massive cedars, plus you can reuse them on site for other purposes when you're done using them as rollers. Moving big or heavy objects is not difficult with good use of engineering principles, and wood has enormous compressive strength. I once moved a 2 ton milling machine acoss a yard with a 10ft wooden beam, a block to lever against and strategic use of pebbles. The methods for moving large loads has varied little until the advent of hydraulics, even now we still use rollers, windlasses, winches, block and tackle, levers, cable and rope, its just that the form, material and power source has changed. A modern cable winch crane, or the heavy duty 20 axle trailers used for transporting massive masonry by road, would be instantly recognisable in their application and principles to a Roman engineer.
@AIenSmithee
@AIenSmithee Жыл бұрын
Jimi Hendrix is a sophisticated musical cyborg created by a lost civilization. Try play like him, I can’t and don’t know anyone that can. Case closed.
@alpussycatthesubstantialch4049
@alpussycatthesubstantialch4049 2 жыл бұрын
This series of yours is great. You are saying all the things that I had thought while having watched these videos previously( these others not yours). I am so happy to have stumbled across your channel sir. And I know I'm not supposed to start a sentence with a preposition but, thank you for the heart of acknowledgement. It brought a genuine tear to my eye to be appreciated, thank you again. Your pal Al. Peace.
@twonumber22
@twonumber22 3 жыл бұрын
He says the granite was taken "up the Nile" instead of down the Nile. lol
@luca_rr4660
@luca_rr4660 2 жыл бұрын
The 330ton Vatican obelisk was moved from Egypt to Rome, it stood for 1500 years until it was relocated in 1585 to it's current position. It took 900men and 140 horses to erect the 330ton obelisk. Sketches can be seen of that moving event. If they could ship and erect a 330ton stone from Egypt, couldn't they also move ('only' side) a 1000ton stone over 900 meters in Baalbek? Likely so. The 1900 year old Trajan's Column has a 53.3 ton capital block that was lifted and placed on 34meter height. Don't underestimate what the Romans were capable of.
@bernardsimsic9334
@bernardsimsic9334 2 жыл бұрын
no one has even attempted this still if it's a snap surely somebody would do it .a group of Archaeologists accompanied by engineers tried to build a pyramid a sixth the size of one at giza for many a summer and eventually had to abandon their attempts after failing comically.
@luca_rr4660
@luca_rr4660 2 жыл бұрын
@@bernardsimsic9334 Did you look up the sketches? Search for "moving the obelisk 1585" on Google images. You said: "if it's a snap surely somebody would do it" Who would have the budget to do something like that? It's far from being 'just a snap', we are talking about cutting down hundreds of big old trees just to replicate the moving of a giant 800-1000 ton stone. That's not justifiable in the current age. Actually the Romans caused a lot of deforestation in the Mediterranean, for construction, heating blacksmiths ovens as wel as cooking and heating homes.
@benghazi4216
@benghazi4216 2 жыл бұрын
@@bernardsimsic9334 Amazing that someone can read 900 men and 140 horses and interpret that as it "being done in a snap" Maybe this VIDEO of a walking Moa statue will open your eyes a bit to how human could move large things with only ropes in this case. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bdBga8qpusmml5c.html
@Byronic19134
@Byronic19134 2 жыл бұрын
Balbeek stone weights 1,700ton.
@mixer6166
@mixer6166 2 жыл бұрын
@@bernardsimsic9334 Their first mistake was using engineers and archaeologists. Lol. Some decent stone masons would have done it quite quickly I'd bet.
@SkywalkerExpress
@SkywalkerExpress 9 ай бұрын
Brien Foerster, Hancock and Randall Carlson in Archeology and HIstory are basically the same type of guy like Frank Dux or George Dillman in Martial Art.
@Eyes_Open
@Eyes_Open 8 ай бұрын
Dux would probably tell you that he built a pyramid.
@Endle185
@Endle185 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant work, well done, I learnt things I didn’t know
@theradgegadgie6352
@theradgegadgie6352 2 жыл бұрын
I'm always curious to know exactly how advanced these ancient advanced civilisations are supposed to be.
@vaiyt
@vaiyt Жыл бұрын
That's the fun of it, since there's no positive evidence you can shove just about anything in the gaps. This guy keeps things vague, but the history channel dudes say Baalbek was a landing pad for spaceships. Built out of cut rock, no advanced materials.
@oftin_wong
@oftin_wong Жыл бұрын
Well,.. the Romans used to refer to chickens to tell the future The Egyptians thought the sun died every night to be born again in the morning ...highly advanced
@theradgegadgie6352
@theradgegadgie6352 Жыл бұрын
@@oftin_wong That didn't stop them being pinnacles of civilisation in lots of other areas.
@oftin_wong
@oftin_wong Жыл бұрын
@@theradgegadgie6352 exactly ...some pinnacle, best not to imagine that they were highly advanced ... Where do you think the term .." you can't take it with you".. Came from? .... Just ask a pharaoh
@theradgegadgie6352
@theradgegadgie6352 Жыл бұрын
@@oftin_wong Well, he'd probably disagree with it. Odd thing about these civilisations: they reached the pinnacle of their development after a century or two, and then did bugger-all innovative for two thousand years. No more inventions, nothing. That's the big different between them and us. Even fifty years produces radical differences in our world.
@p-pete-d6368
@p-pete-d6368 2 жыл бұрын
To me this is constructive criticism that needed to happen. It's almost like a evolution vs creation debate. I too was initially somewhat intrigued by this alternate historian so to speak. To be fair he is not without knowledge on history especially regarding Peru sites. I began though to see problems in the claims being made, most notably the repetitive claim that bronze age technology could not possibly have done this stonework in Peru. I was not seeing any demonstrations of metal work failing or that metal work was even part of the process. Nothing! The correlations only continued as I watched this video. I had then had no doubt that the scientific method is not satisfactory for some people and probably won't be changed. Thankyou Dr. David Miano!
@peterhaslund
@peterhaslund Жыл бұрын
As a school teacher I immediately recognize the dumb student who thinks he's the smartest of them all. That's an F, Brian.
@MrZenGuitarist
@MrZenGuitarist Жыл бұрын
Him claiming that the surface of the bottom of one(?) of the column(s) is 'almost laser-flat' - when seeing him 'measuring' and concluding that statement with nothing more than a standard 25cm (or 10 inches) long 90-degrees tool (sorry-don't know the name of the tool in English, but I'm sure you know what I mean) is just ludicrous....that he didn't at least use a 'ruler' (again-don't know what the name of that tool is: the one with water and an airbubble in it?) as long as the column's diameter, at the very least. Well, as someone who's used to work with wood - it really does surprise me, to say the least. How on earth are you supposed to judge, even with your eyes, how 'flat' something is without having at least some kind of tool that's as long as the diameter (and of course-accurately 'flat')? We have, historically at least, for a long time kept underestimating the capabilities of our forefathers.....but - after a couple of centuries of countless finds such as these ones (even totally buried ones), and also written records as well as other strong indicators that strongly suggest that this or that empire or people did in fact erect these impressive monuments themselves (be it preserved on paper, papyrus or clay, etc.) - you'ld think that era would be over by now...? BUT - apparently not, I guess. Sure - these monuments, all over the world are immensely impressive. Without a doubt. Especially when considering that they had to do everything, at every step purely by hand. BUT, again - we mustn't forget that practically EVERYTHING had to be done by hand in those days, which of course means that ALL artifacts, as well as all kinds of artisans in those days were well versed in making everything by hand. Every single 'step' of it...And since there wasn't even a though given to any alternative, since there were none: people probably started to 'work on their skills' from early childhood - not like today, where we have the choice of using modern machinery. Which of course ultimately means that ALL and every artisan, regardless which material used were very well-versed in making all things - from start to finish - entirely by hand! AND - that there must have been a lot more of these artisans. That's at least what my reasoning and logic is telling me. Also - isn't the fact that these guys not only are selling books and making a living out of their 'special theories' a bit suspicious? Especially while they also 'offer' tours where they will "reveal the real truth" about these 'megalithic structures' - for a handsome fee...to me at least it sounds almost a bit 'cultish'!!! *ALARMBELLS!* Sorry, got a little 'worked up' I guess. Great video, as always Mr. Miano. Subscribed as soon as I saw your channel, since I'm a bit of a 'history-nerd' - and you and your content are so great! (If it wasn't for the fact that I'm simply not in a position where I'm financially able to - I'ld support your channel in a heartbeat!). Cheers from Sweden!
@amartin3893
@amartin3893 2 жыл бұрын
I think Foerster is a charlatan. Him dismissing archaeologists and proposing his own utter tripe annoys me.
@pencilpauli9442
@pencilpauli9442 2 жыл бұрын
Would there not be evidence on the end of the column if they were shaped on giant lathes? Secondly, columns are used to withstand compression. I'm wondering what sort of forces would be affecting a long block of stone suspended by its ends on a lathe. I'm not good with physics and would love to know if such a machine even existed, would it be possible to turn a huge column on a lathe. Thanks for the video. ps How much do the Illumunati pay for masking the truth. I feel like it's time for a change in my career. Since THEY control the world, the money must be really good. (Sorry, after seeing the pinned comment, it had to be asked! lol)
@johnsturm9344
@johnsturm9344 2 жыл бұрын
I actually laughed out loud when Brian said those columns were turned on a lathe. People have used lathes for stone work (mostly for art projects and the like). But you'd need such a massive lathe to turn those columns it no sane person would try it.
@pencilpauli9442
@pencilpauli9442 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnsturm9344 I've had time to re think my position on this question, John. You see the aliens used anti gravity to lift the huge pillars of stone, and place it in a magnetic field to hold steady. It's basically a tractor beam on the space craft, which is why we've never found a lathe. The magnetics are arranged such that when poles change rapidly, the stone starts to spin and the aliens laser blaster are set to "masonry". It all makes so much sense now. Whatever happened to Occam's Razor? lol
@johnsturm9344
@johnsturm9344 2 жыл бұрын
@@pencilpauli9442 Lol! Don't give them new ideas! I don't think most of these guy's understand what Occam's Razor is.... or basic common sense for that matter.
@richtomlinson7090
@richtomlinson7090 2 жыл бұрын
If it was necessary, and I don't believe that they needed lathes, but there is such a thing as a vertical lathe and that would work at slow spinning speed if there was a live cutter like a modern machine. It's highly unlikely and unnecessary to use a conventional horizontal lathe. They could carve in place and grinding with precision curved laps.
@pencilpauli9442
@pencilpauli9442 2 жыл бұрын
@@richtomlinson7090 Right, and I guess the bit was raised and lowered by floating drones? Maybe a crane? Maybe with lasers and a UFO? I'd rather carve the thing with Occam's Razor tbh
@AnyoneCanSee
@AnyoneCanSee Жыл бұрын
I've watched this before but enjoyed it again. Thank you.
@salinagrrrl69
@salinagrrrl69 2 жыл бұрын
Oh gee I had no idea you two were aquinted. I've been bugging Brian's trip for awhile on Andean architecture. On columns it is said that the Pantheon portico is oddly shortened because the cargo ship carring a couple of columns from Egypt sunk.
@colinhayter4029
@colinhayter4029 10 ай бұрын
Haven’t watched this yet, just sitting to do that now. Knowing already I’m going to enjoy this. Love ya work.
@tkgsingsct
@tkgsingsct 3 жыл бұрын
I can barely express how delighted I am that this video has nearly 2,000 views rn, but I'm still bummed that his video has over 300,000. So many people would rather believe fairy tales and nonsense rather than be fascinated by the REAL scholarly, informed research done on these sites. We need to make debunking nonsense as popular as the nonsense. SUPPORT THIS CHANNEL ON PATREON!!
@mariolongtin8271
@mariolongtin8271 3 жыл бұрын
Its more fun to believe in advanced civilization that are lost. I think deep down inside many people believe the truth, but choose to follow pseudoscience for the serotonin boost lol
@tkgsingsct
@tkgsingsct 3 жыл бұрын
@@mariolongtin8271 but the realities, the things we can verify and comprehend, are SO much cooler than the nonsense! And all the MORE fascinating because they're true! 🤷‍♂️
@mariolongtin8271
@mariolongtin8271 3 жыл бұрын
@@tkgsingsct I agree!
@swirvinbirds1971
@swirvinbirds1971 3 жыл бұрын
Fantasy sells more... Unfortunately.
@anthonykent7983
@anthonykent7983 2 жыл бұрын
In my youth (1992) I regularly moved weights of 22tons more than 500m on rollers by myself human power no pulleys or motor power. It could take hours of leveraging by hand. Oxen teams would have no problems moving many times that weight over long distances .
@donhaddix3770
@donhaddix3770 2 жыл бұрын
Not uphill.
@emody79
@emody79 2 жыл бұрын
ANY proof for it!? I've once seen this video on tv of a guy, who claimed to lift a multiton block all by himself. It worked. But they forgot to show, how he got the first cuneo under the block....
@davidburroughs2244
@davidburroughs2244 Жыл бұрын
I believe you. Would love to hear a more in-depth description of what and how you did it.
@salvadorvela8146
@salvadorvela8146 2 жыл бұрын
Brien Foerster takes the trouble of styling and curling his hair to achieve the Plato look. He's not a scholar but he attempts to look like one. Bravo Brien bravo your a regular Don Knotts.
@davidchamplin4865
@davidchamplin4865 Жыл бұрын
One curious thing is that folks attracted to "alternative views outside of the mainstream" never seem to imagine a person like Foerster has simply created a money-making job for themself and they are now in it for the money. Of course that's what is going on. Foerster and others like him probably started out with enthusiasm for the topics, but then start making money and their goals shift. As a "mainstream scientist", I can assure you mainstream scientists are not in it for the money. There isn't a lot of money in mainstream science. There is, however, quite a bit of money to be had these days in doing what Foerster does. Why don't mainstream scientists do what Foerster does? Because it's stupid and embarrassing. Who would want to live their one life and come to the end of it having done nothing more than contributing misinformation to make a buck. I watched half this video and the creator does a good job systematically dismantling Foerster's misinformation. My goodness. What a waste.
@richardsmall2855
@richardsmall2855 3 жыл бұрын
I work at a lab where we research sonar and lidar. One day I talked to my engineers about the megalithic period. They laughed at the word. But when I told them the theory, they said, if you think the ancient world is fun, you should see the stuff we've found underwater. They send submersibles to look for planes, ships, and other lost military what not. Occasionally they find ruins and check to see if its on their map. Not sure who they use, but they've been to Alexandria and had pictures of the underwater stuff that their lidar revealed. Sad that so much got lost to an earthquake. Anyhow, my point was that their team and the other 5 in our lab have discovered so many ancient shipwrecks, ruins, and weird stuff that they had to stop mapping it. Some areas were full of red pins. They both believe that humanity was building things way earlier than academia would believe just from all the old stuff that's sitting around where it shouldn't be.
@WorldofAntiquity
@WorldofAntiquity 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! I expect they have no idea how old these objects are. But I do hope everything is on record.
@manbearpig710
@manbearpig710 2 жыл бұрын
@@WorldofAntiquity well if they’re underwater you can measure the last time that area was exposed and start from there, but it’s already been done. Mainstream even states that sea levels all over the world rose on average 400 ft 10,000 years ago. That’s enough proof right there🤦🏻🤦🏻 just do more research kid
@WorldofAntiquity
@WorldofAntiquity 2 жыл бұрын
@@manbearpig710 No, mainstream science does not say that.
@DoomCast
@DoomCast 2 жыл бұрын
@@WorldofAntiquity some of the underwater cities found are almost 100m down.
@DoomCast
@DoomCast 2 жыл бұрын
@@WorldofAntiquity 11,000 years, yes. It was at the end of the younger dryas.
@Vurti0
@Vurti0 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are really constructive and you make some excellent arguments. Thank you for taking energy and time to gather all the pieces of info together, i learn ALOT.
@NoneRain_
@NoneRain_ Жыл бұрын
I'm on as streak watching all "myths of ancient history". They're extremely informative and entertaining, as you may know well 😂. Thank you!
@greghansen38
@greghansen38 2 жыл бұрын
The granite columns were pooped out by giant unicorns. If you can't find the giant lathe that made them, it was unicorns.
@kcharles8857
@kcharles8857 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent. I was slowly starting to get sucked in by the 'Alternate History' mob. I needed a reality check and this was it. I have subscribed and am working my way through your posts. Thank you.
@r-pupz7032
@r-pupz7032 Жыл бұрын
Same, it can be fun to imagine "what if" but I hadn't realised just how persuasive - and even deceptive - many of that crowd are. At the very least, they engage in heavy cherry picking and "personal incredulity" type reasoning, while discounting anything that doesn't fit with their narrative. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and the evidence just isn't in their favour. I also find it pretty insulting that people like Brian don't believe ancient groups of people could have built such amazing things. Just because we live different lives today, and have different technology levels, doesn't mean they didn't have artisans, architects and stone workers who spent their lives honing their craft! It's fascinating to learn about the actual history, it blows my mind, I actually prefer it to wild speculation these days as this actually happened! It's phenomenal and so interesting :)
@mariusg1213
@mariusg1213 5 ай бұрын
Strange is your reality...
@cyklop1977
@cyklop1977 2 жыл бұрын
I work on cnc processing of granite and marble ...You have no idea how difficult it is to work even today with such accuracy and dimensions ...I don't know who created Baalbeck but the story is definitely different .If you do not believe it, learn CNC machining yourself and show us how you process such columns and how long it will take you ....Your problem is theory and lack of practice ...
@WorldofAntiquity
@WorldofAntiquity 2 жыл бұрын
I have other people who work with granite and marble telling me the opposite.
@cyklop1977
@cyklop1977 2 жыл бұрын
@@WorldofAntiquity Let Them make a short movie for you, block processing for a column (or or something similar ) with similar dimensions ,polished ... tell tThem to say it's for Your channel on the yt :) .... You have no idea how long it takes and what machines you need to process! Cost cutters ! You're lying because you don't know anyone ehhehe . One more ...I am talking about modern times (CNC) but this temple was created a long time ago without modern machines ,primitive tools were used :D ....Do an experiment and build a small version of the temple using the old methods, tools , stone and you can end the speculation how it was done . Baalbek is not a great construction , In India I have seen buildings much more precise and magnificent .I cannot even imagine how people did it ! Even today it is a challenge for modern technology (I have been working on modern cnc machines for 16 years )
@WorldofAntiquity
@WorldofAntiquity 2 жыл бұрын
@@cyklop1977 You throw your ancient predecessors under the bus so easily. Stand up for your craft!
@ljubicasmolcic7550
@ljubicasmolcic7550 2 жыл бұрын
@@WorldofAntiquity wow what a great argument..
@Jbickley00
@Jbickley00 Жыл бұрын
You work with modern equipment in a modern shop under modern assumptions. If you had sufficient time,and didn’t worry about cost, you could do a lot.
@zachh2776
@zachh2776 2 жыл бұрын
Damn you!! I have a yard full of rabbit holes that ive enjoyed playing in the last few years....you keep filling them in, one by one, but i cant stop watching!!
@valritz1489
@valritz1489 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know about you all, but I make sure to carve artwork into every retaining wall I see. Oh yeah, the trilithons are part of a retaining wall. Just so you know.
@klubstompers
@klubstompers 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to believe Brain Foerster's claims, but arguments and evidence to the contrary is very necessary, in a scientific debate. Like all scientific claims, they need to be be challenged, to prove or disprove said theory/study. Thank you for this!!
@WorldofAntiquity
@WorldofAntiquity 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for coming by!
@bobwilson7684
@bobwilson7684 2 жыл бұрын
for your consideration kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hZ-Khbt0npvVfac.html
@theresiakreutzer
@theresiakreutzer 3 жыл бұрын
I just love how certain people are riding around the fact that your channel has less views than Foerster's. I mean, what does this have to do with the actual topic? 😆 One wants to desperately facepalm...
@galadrielwoods2332
@galadrielwoods2332 3 жыл бұрын
What's even more facepalm is that this guy here makes rookie mistakes such as pretending that iron tools would do anything to granite. Only diamond would work on granite. Rookie mistake and shameful.
@VersusARCH
@VersusARCH 3 жыл бұрын
It's because the majority of those who even remember who Foerster is when they read his name in the title are those who bought his crap.
@leotiritilli9698
@leotiritilli9698 3 жыл бұрын
@Galadriel Woods false. Iron tools can easily cut granite.
@zanzan7115
@zanzan7115 3 жыл бұрын
ah this is called the popularity fallacie and pseudos love it
@galadrielwoods2332
@galadrielwoods2332 3 жыл бұрын
I mean... fair is fair... Brien may get one thing wrong sometimes (supposedly) and yet mainstream archaeologist fans screech that it means he's wrong about everything. Mainstream archaeology was created to control the narrative.
@ChefVegan
@ChefVegan Жыл бұрын
The stone quarry site is awesome. Thanks for showing this. Foerster strikes me as a bit odd. I wouldn't take one of his tours lol
@otmanh
@otmanh Жыл бұрын
Does that triangle ruler have a 'level' built into it? What exactly is he measuring? How can he be measuring the 'smooth' face of the pillar without taking consideration for how 'level' the ground is on which it's resting?
@neveraballfe8253
@neveraballfe8253 3 жыл бұрын
It is kind of strange that the Roman's could do that awesome granite work but thought the Egyptians obelisk where so amazing they would spend money and risk lives to move them all the way to rome
@WorldofAntiquity
@WorldofAntiquity 3 жыл бұрын
Spoils of war.
@leonardmead1425
@leonardmead1425 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly ,why did the Romans not build these kind of things in Rome? This dude is being is being paid to try and ridicule people who are asking obvious questions wich academie don't want asked.
@carlwheezer1030
@carlwheezer1030 2 жыл бұрын
@@leonardmead1425 bud you completely missed the point
@leonardmead1425
@leonardmead1425 2 жыл бұрын
@@carlwheezer1030 what point? that they were spoils of war?
@neveraballfe8253
@neveraballfe8253 2 жыл бұрын
@@leonardmead1425 thank you
@Ano-Nymous
@Ano-Nymous 2 жыл бұрын
I recently saw a video showing Ben from UnchartedX and either Brien Foerster or Graham Hancock in Peru. It didn't take long until the whole video started to remind me of those clips of people hunting the paranormal. Everybody was suspicious about everything, but luckily obvious clues proved their thesis of higher powers to be correct. It nearly had pieces of a comedy. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. All the best to you and your family. EDIT: To me the picture showing the tunnel with different sized stones the stones to the side look like being exposed to fire or smoke from fire. Following the line the same stones seem to brighten up in direction of the opening door. But it could be also just an optical illusion due to the sunlight shining in.
@mixer6166
@mixer6166 2 жыл бұрын
I've watched lots of those videos from those guys. There really is only one argument when it comes to the big rocks, moving and carving them. Could ancient people have done this or not? I found plenty of KZfaqrs showing exactly how they did it. Hard work yes but it's not like these ancient people had regular 9-5 jobs and did this in their spare time. This was their life's work, they had the time and of course they got really good at it. I have often wondered if some prehistoric advanced civilization could have existed then completely disappeared without a trace of the advanced technology they had. I am completely open to this, just waiting on solid evidence. 🙂
@thechunkiestmonkey6887
@thechunkiestmonkey6887 2 жыл бұрын
@@mixer6166 there is no proof of how the ancient Peruvians cut and carved the megalithic polygonal ashlar masonry. There's no bronze saws, no evidence of copper or bronze chisels. Experts can't explain sascayhuaman and many other such sites. The ones that do claim to know are merely postulating theory's and are showing their hubris by thinking they know 100%
@waltherforstmann3659
@waltherforstmann3659 Жыл бұрын
Whenever I'm feeling down, I put on Ancient Aliens to make me belly laugh.
@HomeSickAlienJayman
@HomeSickAlienJayman Жыл бұрын
Fantastic job your doing my man. Subscribed.
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