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Tidybricks Landscaping DIY advise

Tidybricks Landscaping DIY advise

Жыл бұрын

5. Provide step-by-step instructions: When demonstrating how to test cement strength, provide clear and concise step-by-step instructions to help your viewers follow along.
6. Address common mistakes: Address common mistakes that people make when testing cement strength and provide tips on how to avoid them.

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@mushy_GLX
@mushy_GLX Жыл бұрын
Before I did my diy paving.. I watched too many paving experts like you, but you the only one actually doing this kind of tests👍👍
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
I’m glad you found it off me then 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@m3jappa
@m3jappa Жыл бұрын
We use semi dry for a variety of reasons, as you say if the primer is put on nice and thick then sticking is no issue at all. Semi dry is cleaner, it is easier to achieve a proper full contact bed and is less prone to shrinkage, you also dont have surrounding slabs moving about with semi dry. You can also screed your beds as well making things much quicker.
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
For sure it does have its advantages semi dry mixes over wet Can’t decide what I prefer 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@gilespanton9354
@gilespanton9354 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree mate it also wickes the minerals up creating a stronger mortor bed overall rather than a wet mix which would do the opposite
@neilwatcham8932
@neilwatcham8932 Жыл бұрын
The load on slabs is a downward force. When a patio is laid u do not pull them up for no reason.. they may pop off in winter if pointing in permeable.. ground workers would lay slabs on dryish mix, landscapers lay on wet. But wet comes up in the joints and when the next 1 goes on the previous 1 may move because of slump while the the next slab is knocked on.. try laying kerbs with wet gear, won't happen.. also wet gear will tend to crack on shrinkage, while drylean won't... as long as u apply bonding agent drylean is quicker to use and a lot less mess....
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
It’s always about the primer wet or semI dry 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@dcl6793
@dcl6793 Жыл бұрын
As most of us will agree, wetter the better 🤣.. But defo wet mix for laying, I’ve had similar issues with semi dry but premier is a must
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
As it turns out it’s all about the primer 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@haveagoharry4999
@haveagoharry4999 Жыл бұрын
Fair play making these helpful videos, top man.
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
Here to help 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@anzaborrego399
@anzaborrego399 Жыл бұрын
Good way to learn! Thank you!
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@hmg8915
@hmg8915 Жыл бұрын
Still rather lay my flagstone in wet mix, helps me sleep better.. also joint it at the same time in frost freeze areas because it will attach to the base mix under your flagstone. If the joint is laid in at a later date, it could fail years later.
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree more good idea on the jointing 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@StephenMurrayCookcookie
@StephenMurrayCookcookie Жыл бұрын
Been using semi dry for over 40 years no problems 👍👏🍪
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
What’s up cookie 🍪 yeh I might go back on semi dry easier to mix too just more primer and lava it on. Useful video for people to clarify questions I keep getting asked also 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@StephenMurrayCookcookie
@StephenMurrayCookcookie Жыл бұрын
@@tidybrickslandscaping my go to is poured on bond bridge cement water for sets. and sandstone paving limestone aswell done same on porcelain no problems with sbr mix .it’s easier to mix semi dry couple of taps in ps big fan of yours well done 👏🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
@@StephenMurrayCookcookie thanks for watching cookie and I’m also a huge fan of yours too let’s put wales on the landscaping map and show em what we can do 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@raydebbiemcdonald3208
@raydebbiemcdonald3208 Жыл бұрын
Love the fact it didn’t go as expected but you still posted it. Not quite sure what you were trying to prove though. 😛
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
Basically which type stuck the best as it turns out it’s really all about the primer 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@marcking8099
@marcking8099 Жыл бұрын
Less water can be a strong longer lasting mix as long as it’s compressed well … you can have to much water as well as not enough.. I use different mixes on different products..paving brickwork and edgers I make all different consistency’s ,, as long as it’s mixed well should set well tho paving with a dry mix will take longer to lay Id say but dry is great for edgers
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you mark 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@johnbowkett80
@johnbowkett80 Жыл бұрын
GRAVITY IS A GREAT FORCE FOR HOLDING THINGS DOWN AND IN PLACE .
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
@@johnbowkett80 that does help too 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@johnbowkett80
@johnbowkett80 Жыл бұрын
@@tidybrickslandscaping I honestly think there are too many armchair wannabe brickies around and don't realise that building ain't rocket science , its been going on since we climbed out the trees . Its common sense and very hard graft but I love the game . Take care . Don't drop a slab on your toes and if you do ... Blame GRAVITY.. 👍👍👍👍👍
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
@@johnbowkett80 well said 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@Tooma1979
@Tooma1979 Жыл бұрын
I watched you build that retaining wall even though I wasn’t building one Now I’m watching you do this massive job and I’m eyeing up my dead grass and thinking of having a go at this great content boyo
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Christopher yeh man have a go any help just let me know 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@tonystockbridge6007
@tonystockbridge6007 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff, as ever 👍
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
Cheers tony 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@user-vp8ed9rs4x
@user-vp8ed9rs4x 2 ай бұрын
Thank you
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping 2 ай бұрын
Glad it helped 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@simonl6420
@simonl6420 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoy ur content Scott. Always interesting with a lot of humour. I haven’t commented before but this video got me wondering. I always brush primer on with a wet mix and always get a good bond. What do you think the results would be if you brushed the primer on on a wet and semi dry mix? Be cool to see the results. Thanks for all your content.
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Simon glad you enjoy watching my videos 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@scoyle1750
@scoyle1750 Жыл бұрын
wouldn't use a drier mix unless I was using a 1200 x1200 tile when it would make more sense to screed it, personally I will always use a wet mix as it creates more suction and is overall a better job for laying tiles individually but can use a screed and screed it out using a drier screed mix but laying tiles individually with a dry mix is nonsense it to only makes sense to use it as a screed in my experience 👍
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
Yeh I’m a wet mix man I do prefer it 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@MarcusT86
@MarcusT86 Жыл бұрын
Great video buddy. I'm going to have a go at laying a patio in the coming months. Is it feasible to do in winter? Or do you need to wait for more spring/summer weather? If so I've missed the boat there. Cheers again, from a fellow South Wales-er!
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
Winter time is fine just not below -2 degrees 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@ckgray583
@ckgray583 Жыл бұрын
I’m a big believer in wet mix as I feel when you lay on it , the wet mix can spread when you bed and hit the slab down and I feel will dry together with the primer better, didn’t expect semi dry to work aswell but I feel wet is the one, also would you recommend a grabo for 900x600? Great vid mate
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
I’m glad you found the video interesting as so did I and I would recommend a Grabo for anything except trying to lay block on flat 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@christyb271
@christyb271 Жыл бұрын
Cracking job geezer.
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@geoffjohnston1531
@geoffjohnston1531 Жыл бұрын
Semi dry will ultimately be significantly stronger.
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
Still last a life time I’d say 👍😂
@Rob-zf2cv
@Rob-zf2cv 9 ай бұрын
Does the adhesion really matter? All you are doing is creating a thicker slab, lifting the mortar with it. As long as the slab has full contact with the bed and cannot move, jobs a good un.
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping 9 ай бұрын
It’s always best to make 2 become 1 like the spice girls song lol 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@benkeenan5844
@benkeenan5844 Жыл бұрын
Great video scott
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
She is ben glad you enjoyed the video mate 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@oldschoolboy21
@oldschoolboy21 Жыл бұрын
I really like your tests
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
I’m always up for a test 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@oldschoolboy21
@oldschoolboy21 Жыл бұрын
@@tidybrickslandscaping well, we build things all the time but unless you try and break it /test it etc how do you really know if the product is up to it 👍👍
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
@@oldschoolboy21 well said 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@Martymc7585
@Martymc7585 Жыл бұрын
Love your videos pal but would slightly disagree with your test, after 6 hours wouldn’t be enough time to get a proper assessment of both mortars, don’t get me wrong I have used a wet mix for years without fail, but with a dryer mix you can get the compression force, with a wet mix you will be left with slight air pockets where the water once was because water isn’t compressive… I would love to see an actual real test where both are aloud to fully cure, and somehow test the strength rather than the grab abilities Pre cured
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
Very good point hopefully this other video I did where I left the tiles down for a week then pull them up take a look kzfaq.info/get/bejne/acuTeKZ3ndmVl6M.html 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@johnbowkett80
@johnbowkett80 Жыл бұрын
I had a few York Stone slabs in my garden for 30 years . When I last looked , they are all still there exactly as I left them ..... And guesss what , not a bit of mortar to keep them there . GRAVITY WORKS . Fall off scaffold and I will predict which way you will travel . 😅
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
Now there heavy buggers 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@johnbowkett80
@johnbowkett80 Жыл бұрын
@@tidybrickslandscaping And valuable down here in Brum .
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
@@johnbowkett80 don’t let the pikeys see em they’ll be gone 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@scottotero9374
@scottotero9374 Жыл бұрын
Hi Scott, Scott here, what a great name. Anyway.... what ratio of mix do you use buddy!?
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
4/1 sharp sand mix 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 top name 🤩
@neilwatcham8932
@neilwatcham8932 Жыл бұрын
Do u always use sharp? Or change depending on depth... bigger the stone stronger the gear..
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
Always sharp sand no matter what 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@CDotSik
@CDotSik 9 ай бұрын
My at work does a completely dry mix lol
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping 9 ай бұрын
Tell him to add more water 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@limey2899
@limey2899 Жыл бұрын
hello, what is your ratio of sharp sand to cement for porcelain slabs? Thanks
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
4/1 sharp sand 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@elliottdebell7783
@elliottdebell7783 Жыл бұрын
I’ve had arguments with my mate about him spreading the primer to thin. 👍🏼 thank you for sorting that for me 😄
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
It was a good test and yeh to thin a spread just don’t cut the mustard lava it on like I do in this video about half way through 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f9poqMuSu7mYcWw.html
@elliottdebell7783
@elliottdebell7783 Жыл бұрын
@@tidybrickslandscaping already seen it. 😄👍🏼
@nickaf5262
@nickaf5262 Жыл бұрын
Jonny boy says a dry mix but I couldn’t get a good bond I slurried the porcelain layed on dry mix left for 24hrs then pulled straight up Jonny boy I think is telling people to lay on semi dry so it fails and he can come in and put the job right
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
Semi dry is fine just put plenty of primer between the cement bed and tiles and it’ll stick like glue 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@johnbowkett80
@johnbowkett80 Жыл бұрын
Block paving ain't stuck down with mortar . We use mortar on slabs to get things perfectly level ir in a true plane . Groundworkers lay slabs on sand because they are shite at compo work and it's too difficult for them (waiting for the comeback from dirt diggers). 😜
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
That’s a tough game ground works always in wellies 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@neilwatcham8932
@neilwatcham8932 Жыл бұрын
No difference to get a level.. that's what lines are for.
@montdino9775
@montdino9775 Жыл бұрын
Hello quick question in terms of the sand could you use the sand they use in concrete yards when mixing concrete or would that sand be too course for porcelain slabs thanks
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
That’s perfect sweep up as much as you can 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@montdino9775
@montdino9775 Жыл бұрын
@@tidybrickslandscaping also have you ever used botament d10
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
@@montdino9775 never heard of it sorry
@montdino9775
@montdino9775 Жыл бұрын
@@tidybrickslandscaping no worries thanks it’s kinda like an sbr when you mix the sbr do you add water to it when making slurry what’s your mix ratio and thank for taking time to answer my questions I really appreciate the help
@lisaadam3423
@lisaadam3423 Жыл бұрын
What is the mix ratio (cement, sand , water ) for semi dry & wet ? Thnx
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
Always 4/1 sharp sand mix and I always put a squirt of fairy in the mix as for water amounts just start with less and watch mix for a while then add as needed 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@lisaadam3423
@lisaadam3423 Жыл бұрын
@@tidybrickslandscapingwhat do you mean fairy ? No idea
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
@@lisaadam3423 washing up liquid 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@lisaadam3423
@lisaadam3423 Жыл бұрын
@@tidybrickslandscaping 🤔for what purpose ?
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
@@lisaadam3423 it’s makes the cement more workable easy to spread than without 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@charlesmilligan1416
@charlesmilligan1416 Жыл бұрын
So how do you get a semi dry mix?
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
Just not so much water really 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@charlesmilligan1416
@charlesmilligan1416 Жыл бұрын
@@tidybrickslandscaping keeps sticking to the mixer drum lol
@jeffreyrobinson1004
@jeffreyrobinson1004 Жыл бұрын
There is no bond between the ground (dirt) and the cement wet or dry....the bond is between the tile and the cement. The surface you used for your experiment, the ground, is incorrect....that should have been stone, concrete or some other hard surface...
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
It is stone 100mm worth we lay on a flexible bed over here don’t need concrete it’s only a patio that gets walked on 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 different in the UK
@krehbein
@krehbein Жыл бұрын
Interesting experiment. I don’t care I still think wet is better way to go. In this one case maybe the conditions were just right and semi dry stuck very well. In the tiling world you definitely don’t want your thin set to be too dry, you don’t get good adhesion. Maybe you’ll get away with it sometimes but in the long run your thinset has to be wet enough for the tile to adhere well to it.
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
Totally agree I think the conditions were in favour of the semi dry and yes um already back on the wetter mix already 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 it was a good test
@tomastley6080
@tomastley6080 Жыл бұрын
Thin set is not the same as a sand and cement fix. Thin set is adhesive!
@marcusd2380
@marcusd2380 Жыл бұрын
A video on how to mix semi dry would be usful. Not many out there. Semi dry concrete I find hard to mix right. To make it fluffy like ready mix I struggle and I have a proper cement mixer.
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
Next time you’re trying to make a fluffy mix squirt a little bit of fairy liquid in it 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@StephenMurrayCookcookie
@StephenMurrayCookcookie Жыл бұрын
Best tip wet sand before mixing don’t add water to mixer fluffy every time ps for setts I mix with 3ton digger spot on 👍🍪👏
@marcusd2380
@marcusd2380 Жыл бұрын
@@StephenMurrayCookcookie thanking you Stephen for taking the time to write. I’m going to give this a go
@marcusd2380
@marcusd2380 Жыл бұрын
@@tidybrickslandscaping I will try this but I think it might make it a bit weaker. I got another comment there to wet the sand first in the mixer and then add cement. Some times the simple things can be the toughest to get right
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
@@marcusd2380 cookies another master of the landscaping game check out his setts videos just incredible designs I’ve watched his videos for hours hoping one day I’ll have the same opportunity to do something similar one day. 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@michaeljesusalphaomega8778
@michaeljesusalphaomega8778 Жыл бұрын
The wet one is better as a landscaper. If you left 24 hours,to 48 hours, you’ll see the difference. The wet one is better.
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
Agree I prefer wetter so do many others and also a lot of people prefer semi dry. As long as you use plenty of primer they both work well 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@jr42a1
@jr42a1 Жыл бұрын
obviously, wetter is better !!
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
Yeh I’d say 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@minsukim4084
@minsukim4084 11 ай бұрын
What does it prove? Strength? BTW, Who lays stone like that?
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping 11 ай бұрын
Watch the video again and listen and everyone lays stone the same cement primer the stone
@SteveggStevegg
@SteveggStevegg Жыл бұрын
What the hell is lava mix? Cheers
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
Lava it on “ don’t be shy” a good amount 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@SteveggStevegg
@SteveggStevegg Жыл бұрын
What is the primer mix? Cheers
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
@@SteveggStevegg that’s a product from Marshall’s it’s a type of cement glue for the back of the tile 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@murph5951
@murph5951 Жыл бұрын
First 😜
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
Get in there early my son 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@coop_coop007
@coop_coop007 Жыл бұрын
A brickies ball.
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
The other one is slightly bigger 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@frankbrooker6569
@frankbrooker6569 Жыл бұрын
Scotch egg 😃
@coop_coop007
@coop_coop007 Жыл бұрын
@@frankbrooker6569 Is that different from a dog egg?
@frankbrooker6569
@frankbrooker6569 Жыл бұрын
@@coop_coop007 , when its a bit dry n not mixed proper u can get scotch egg effect . Dog eggs ? I'll be picking them up later no doubt
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
Love scotch eggs 🤤👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@cerberus7849
@cerberus7849 Жыл бұрын
I bet when you picked up the semi dry one you thought, ( yer bastard it's callin me a fuckin lier ) 😅😂🤪☮✊
@tidybrickslandscaping
@tidybrickslandscaping Жыл бұрын
I was certainly busted I was so wrong lol 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
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