I thought Pickford constantly booting the ball back into Spanish possession was a brilliant tactic. Plus leaving Kane on for 60-plus minutes, contributing nothing= Brilliant. How did we not win?

Spain were the Best Euros winners since Spain.

Glad to have had this combo of Joe, JJ, and Jon back! Much better than the totally football show, which is unbearably try hard and annoying tbf

Had a good manager. Saved you an hour.

It would have been an absolute travesty if England had won the final. They played miserable football and floundered their way to the final via several highly controversial referee/VAR calls. like the 6mm offside against Denmark that saw England somehow winning their group thus ending up in the easier half, or the highly controversial penalty in the semi-final. Besides from that, England played well about 30-40 minutes in total throughout the whole tournament. Most of that time with Kane on the bench. Spain on the other hand had played fast paced direct football with high press all tournament. Long gone are the days of the boring tiki-taka style. A well deserved win where they beat all the big teams on their way to the final.

England are the Spurs of International Football.

Play players who are fit and ready to go or at least rotate more. Kane and Bellingham looked knackered all tournament. Foden didn't convince. would of like to see Gordon play more

England only got to the final because they were at the better side of the draw. If they had met Portugal, Germany or France they would have been fucked.

Rodri is annoyingly good. Very rare for a 6 to be absolutely elite both in and out of possession and his mentality is insane too.

JJ looked so happy

Much like Odegaard, Saka and White. Have Palmer, Saka and White on the right. And for god’s sake play Gordon. I am converted to this bright new future post-Southgate

Can a Monday morning be any worse? Hungover and depressed with a whole work week to negotiate.

You just have to wonder why Foden was made as the guy you build your team around. All set pieces were taken by him, not Rice or Saka who delivered for Arsenal (most scoring set piece team this season). We had Jude at LW and Saka at RWB to accommodate Foden, for what? Who is your talisman? Who is your captain? We didn’t even build a system to get the best out him; it seems like Southgate only watches the Premier League… in Kane’s best scoring season he had RUNNERS outside him, we all know he likes to drop deep… Tuchel built a system to get the best out of Kane, just like Conte did before him. It’s just blows my mind the series of errors he’s made building a world class squad. World class.

The same thing they should have done for the whole tournament, be aggressive, play a more free flowing attacking game, be creative, and let the kids play.

Spurs fan here, so I'm a abit biased towards defending Kane. He did look injured or fatigued, however lets not forget the quality he has. I'd argue, we did not see the expected quality from Bellingham (besides the overhead kick), Saka or Foden (he did try but it was nothing like he is for City). I think the issue Southgate has, is he tried to play all the big boys and fell into the trap each of our past managers have fell into. Play the players needed for your system, and play the system which suits your squad best. If we weren't going to play wingers like Gordon, then just play two up top and play Trent to get the crosses in. Kane did not get many chances in the box (when he was in the box) and players like Saka were isolated all tournament. Frustrating. Anyways, onto the next one! hopefully we learnt something and can improve.

Starting with Kane in a Final when he was obviously not right is a sackable offence on its own. Southgate talks about glory and doing something special , but in order to do that you have to be brave and make difficult decisions.

Reverting back to form of deeper defending and long balls from the back after the 1-1 lost the game the most imho. England only plays once down.

It’s SOOOOOOO EASY to say what they SHOULD HAVE done after the game. Managers get paid to make decisions DURING THE GAME.

Y'all are becoming my favorite YT channel. Love the banter. Cheers from a yank.

You cant win against a possession side like Spain when your goalkeeper keeps giving them the ball. Nearly every England player plays for a club that builds up from the back, they're even playing a system that requires you to build up from the back but some genius thought it would be a good idea to use a goalie that cant go short and is absolute shite going long.

It was an embarrassing and cowardly display, England have some of the best midfielders in the world and you cant even attempt to control the game? I felt like I was watching Man City vs Burnley.

I think Pochettino is the best option if we are not looking for an english/british manager (although if he's not english then why not anyone?)... he knows the League, and the players and his system is one that the players already know having played for or against it in the PL. My guess is that he'd play Kane as a 10 because he can't lead the press anymore. I thin we probably need a foreigner for this squad because they will need to implement a system that means players understand why they are in or not in the team - "it's not who is better, but who is better for us" to misquote Alf Ramsey's comment to Jack Charlton when he was first selected.

Harry Kane's big game history 2018 WC semi final: should've scored to make it 2-0 vs Croatia, Southgate decides to be scared and sit deep after HT. 2019 CL final: half fit, never should've started 2021 League Cup final: Pep vs Ryan Mason, enough said. 2021 Euro final: Southgate scared and sits deep again, Kane barely sees the ball 2024 Euros: same as 2021, but Kane looks slow and injured the whole time This dude just has the WORST luck. The only time Kane wasn't stuck with a manager that plays terrorist football, he's so injured he shouldn't even be playing.

I think the failure to beat the Spanish was years in the making. We came into the tournament with no identity or established patterns of play, and then, we just muddled our way through each game.

Very pleasing to see Gavi and Pedri next to one another after the final whistle. You think Spain are good now, wait till that dynamic duo mature!

England - momentary individual class Spain - consistent team excellence

Lethamyr shoutout was unexpected

Thank goodness England lost. We'd be hearing the England fans and media keep carrying on and climaxing about the EPL. España, muchas gracias. Think the biggest difference between Spain and England isn't the quality of player, but the impetus and initiative. Having the best players is worth nothing if you keep dropping off every time you lose the ball or just pass backwards. Have to have a structure that allows you to want to play forwards, and have ideas in place for when you lose the ball to get it back quickly.

Eddie Howe should be England's next manager. The FA should do all they can to get him in. He is a modern coach with better tactical nous and would have won us the cup.

BREAKING NEWS: don’t play Kane

When you pod premier league games. Can you make it known, it’s the tifo guys. Otherwise, chances are, I’m not clicking. Haven’t watched since you guys moved to this channel and I really enjoyed the old channel

The reason why spain was not pressuring england in the first half is because of how england was play deep and crowding the area ...when spain score thats what make england come out and thats when spain got to look themselves

miss you guys over at tifo :(

I can't believe i actually heard JJ say 'there was nothing tactically wrong with how Southgate set the team up'. Did he watch the same match as everyone else. Apart from the first half against the Netherlands Southgate got it tactically wrong all tournament. You don't need to be an experienced pundit or football 'expert' to know that not pressing Spain, letting them have posession right upto the edge of your box, not hassling their centre-halves (who are the weakest point in their team), when you do get posession progressing the ball up the pitch very slowly, taking absolutely no risks with passes to try to attack them before they get into shape and when Pickford has posession instructing him to boot it upfield to a half dead Kane who invariably loses the header and Spain have posession again is tactically awful. We'll never know but I suspect very strongly that a well drilled England team instructed to press high and attack could have beaten this Spain team.

thanks for wearing my hoodie

Well team captain should lead by example, and there is no better example of serial finals loser than Harry Kane: he’s lost all of them and more, in pure Spurs legend style. He got so fed up with it that went to Bayern because it was a sure title, having won for 12 years in a row… Guess what? Nothing. Now I wish that City had completed his signing 2 years ago… So, first thing. Stop relying on Kane. Even Portugal won their Euro final without CR7 on the pitch. Secondly, fans need to learn and stop jinxing it with the “it’s coming home” narrative. There is no home. England rich elite got together to create the first football association, but the sport has much older roots elsewhere… So if you keep saying that it’s coming home, that is evidently not England and it is not coming. In more seriousness, England needs a coach that let the players play like they do in their clubs, all of which reach and win national and European titles, or at the very least do well. Everyone on the pitch looked always looked confused. All this said, Spain deserved it. If only for all the teams they had got the better of to reach the final. Well done.

This trio is great! Any chance they could do some sort of regular video broadcast?

probably shouldve have a different manager after euro 2021, wasted 3 years and two tournaments

Didn’t watch the video but the answer is to not have Kyle Walker sitting in John Stones’ lap for both goals

A minor point in this post mortem, but given how little England capitalised on set pieces it was bonkers Southgate didn’t put Rice on them - even Shaw waltzed into that in the final ahead of him. Nuts!

This should be a podcast, maybe a weekly one

England don’t have a Rodri equivalent and have never produced one. It’s the same problem every tournament. The fulcrum of the team who controls the game. Spain on the other hand didn’t suffer from Rodris injury and his replacement slotted seamlessly into the team. And for all the praise the England stars get, only Foden from the first XI could receive and turn with the ball in one movement the way more of the Spain team could.

Best episode in a while boys 👏👏

Man I've missed these guys!

Just not play kane. Southgate confirmed post game he wasn't fit, so don't start him, get a player that can hold up the ball and be a threat and bring him on in last 20mins.

English footballers, with few exceptions, are generally numb to the subtler and finer things about the game that can make all the difference. For instance when England equalised last night they had the psychological upper hand but did not take advantage of it. That was the time to try to turn the screw on Spain, up the tempo and try to pressure them in all ways territorial and physical. But no, as always England just sits back when the score is equal and lets their opponents off the hook. It's as though England just wants to draw all the time, it's bloody strange .! 🤨

Viene a casa 🇪🇸🎉👏 ⚽

Harry Kane should have come off at HT, he literally struggled to even jog around the pitch, which gave the Spanish blackline the freedom to dictate the play because we weren't pressing their players giving them control of the game. For the good of the team he should have told Southgate to sub him in the dressing room at HT and bring Watkins on but his ego of wanting to score goals, win the Golden Boot became bigger than a chance of getting a Winners Medal..!! For 60mins it was as if we were playing with 10men...For the Captain of England to put himself 1st shows his own glory means more to him than England winning the European Championships Final...SAD...And let's face it, it was the same against the Dutch and I'd say the whole Tournament he looked miles off it in every game to even gifting a goal away by playing a ludicrous crossfield pass from our own corner flag..!! What was he even doing back there.. KANE needs to take a hard look at himself in the mirror..It's a sad reflection of modern players putting themselves ahead if the good of the team as we didn't start competing in the Final till we had 11 fit players on the pitch after an hour when Watkins came on...😢

Iordanescu, the manager of Romania should be praised and recognized for his work. Finished both qualification group and Euro group on 1st place (above teams like Switzerland or Belgium) with the least valuable team at the EUROs (check stats). Give that team to Southgate and we will all have a laugh.

Wait…Points Are Bad will be back during the PL season? Does that mean…the podcasts are coming back??

Yeah let palmer on for the whole game… looking at you Southgate

I'm watching the "who should replace Gareth Southgate" part and he has just resigned

Going way over the time limit last time, now without visuals. This is slowly turning back into the podcast with you three isn't it

Went to the red lion pub and met uncle Damien. Thanks Joe!

people still saying Pickford has "never let England down" after being the worst top flight keeper in the world at controlling his box, a howler vs the Dutch, conceding to Tchouameni from outside the box & conceding to Giroud from his six yard line. terrible two tournaments in a row. get a keeper who can control his area, catch a ball, calm a defence & play out from the back - then we won't have to play defensive football with the best crop of attackers of any country.

Team selection, tactics, formations and finally decisive management. England should have been a 3-4-2-1 with the squad they have, Gareth is confused and ended not doing anything to show faith and belief in his players by setting up positively. He doesn't believe, the team doesn't believe, so that's why it's always "Nearly there."

Gary O'Neil for England manager

It was a quarter final to watch. Spain scored first then sat back and defended in depth. Germany equalized in the last gasp minute of the 2nd half. Took the match to extra time. This goal galvanized Spain who stuck in the extra time carrying them through to the semi finals. And now we saw something similar in the final. Spain had a game plan that they executed. What was England's game plan? One also has to factor in that England had the easier draws compared to Spain.

This was a great episode, podcast vibes were back a little bit

Spain was not bad, England makes you play bad. Too negative unfortunately

Foden pushing up allowed space in the midfield for Spain to attack which led to their first and Kobbie Mainoo coming off led to their second, Bellingham being moved to defensive midfield made him look like a fish out of water and I don't get the sense in subbing Mainoo rather than him or Saka for Palmer (reason was established player loyalty from GS). After we'd done such a fantastic job of neutralising the Spanish attack throughout the first half. Don't even get me started on why an injured Kane was getting soi many minutes (again established player loyalty). Clearly there is a thin line between player loyalty and sensible tactical decision making

It turns out I can still sing the Points Are Bad song in my head :)

The Lethamyr shoutout!

It was like a torture watching the England team playing footbal.

Please do an analysis video on the next potential England FA manager .

I said to my sisters nearly 2 weeks ago that England will get to the final and lose.Was right😮😢

I think everyone is exaggerating England's flaws and Spain's strengths. It was a 1-1 Final with a handful of minutes remaining. England obviously could have played better, but it's not as if they were out of the game with no chance of winning it.

Turkey deserves a mention for best unexpected team performance, no?

So this is the last we see them before WC 2026 ?

TLDR: Don't play that waste of space Kane. Ambled about uselessly in every game in this tournament, and Southgate just kept picking him. What a shame.

didn't expect shots at Rocket League in this vid

Tribalism gets in the way sometimes when the manager calls on certain players but not others. We have the benefit of watching our own players week in and week out, and the other candidate - we either see them on highlights or when they play our team. I think the manager needs to define a play style and roles for his team and pick the best players to suit those positions. He might not be a superstar or not the most in form, but don't just put big names in there just to appease fans. Do it because there will be star players you want to platform and other supporting casts who will boost these profiles.

Shaqiri goal?

Have a manager brave enough to make impactful changes before the match begins. Kane and Foden had no business being starters after Watkins and Palmer proved themselves to simply be in better form. Also Walker is a liability, he's a system player who has zero adaptability and knows nothing outside of running fast. His can't cross, can't link-up and can't mark properly. Both of Spain's goals came from Walker's inability to mark the goalscoring threats coming from the right wing. First, he completely forgets about Nico Williams, giving him an acre of space to run into and score from. Then, he forgets about Cucurella and let's him get his cross out to create the assist. Both times Spain scored, it was a sideways pass to the wing that catches him off guard, then he miserably scrambles to tackle and fails. What you need is a manager brave enough to see these tumours and remove them before it kills the team. Southgate isn't some tactical genius for bringing in Palmer and Watkins and then having them score, they deserved to be on the pitch since the 1st minute.

I thought they stood a chance when Kane came off. England really wasn’t the best runner up in the tournament.

NOT PLAY HARRY KANE FROM THE START throughout the tournament he was a liability @@@

170% misuse of squad by management and staff. How on earth Palmer had such minutes all tournament. Not sure why the players have been getting so much stick/hype/pressure etc but shouldn’t the players in best form from their respective leagues be on the field. I don’t think any of this is justifiable to the English fans and generational talents. And English media instead of pointing out some of the managing decisions per game they gloss over it and blame Kane? Why blame Kane when you’re not starting Palmer with him and doing things like playing Trent midfield etc…. Not only is that unnecessary hype but added pressure for maybe the best group of talent that COULD have made up/ got into that dressing room. FOSSIL FOOTBALL FROM SO MANY TEAMS THIS EUROS

Couldn’t find this so had to watch a replay…

while I see tactical and possession-based approach in the Euros, the Copa America was different. They played traditional exciting football with thse risky passes. Colombia Aregentina were setup to do the risky passes that Euros did not have

One name sticks out: Mau Pochettino !

21:32 why not Graham Potter? I don't understand.

Nico Williams had his own postal code on the left channel the ENTIRE game. I like Kyle Walker, hes been historically very solid, but my god he got EXPOSED by a much younger and more explosive player.

This will make me feel .... Better?

Nobody: Jon: "Helloy"

I’m happy JJ’s happy. I myself am also happy England lost as I hated the way they played the past tournaments but more happy for my Scottish buddy.

I want to know Kane’s ball retention stats in this tournament vs other teams strikers. Anyone know?

A Spaniard here. Guys... England has a much better team than Spain, no matter how you put it. Rodri is important, yes, but Rice and Bellingham are by no means worse than Ruiz and Olmo. And the front 3 are MUCH better than Spain's. Tired players? Maybe... but I think the manager is the one to blame here

The question is, if England had one of the top 10 managers in the world for the last 8 years, how do you think we’d be playing? Do you think we would have lost 2 finals with someone like Mourinho?

How about not turning up , would have a start ...because they never got started in the first place... England fan opinion.....

cheers lads, gonna kms

I'm just happy we didn't get spanked.

That was close had cold sweats and the severe boak thinking England where going to win it

That poor cookie😂😂

I watched the Rest is Football, the Guardian pod and 2 Athletic takes. Nice balanced opinions. As a newer football fan and American, I found England's play boring, unorganized and not courageous. I learned alot from listening to the pods😁

Jose Mourinho would be fun? Really??? Have you watched his teams since his first spell at Chelsea?!!!

You just joked off our best shot at winning the Euros - Klopp. WTH? At least explain why not, if you genuinely think it

ITS HAPPENED AGAIN

I love these videos. "Now listen u h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h" 47:57

Southgate had 6 prior games in this tournament to create and refine a tactical game plan for this team. He had excellent players at his disposal. But the priority always seemed to be the defensive, and the attack was utterly neglected. Add to that an out-of-form Harry Kane up in front and you get ... this. Spain is a team that's set up to score goals as well as fend off attacks. They aim to score 2-3 goals each game. England only defends, it's left up to the individual moments to produce the odd goal, 1 goal per game.

Should Eddie Howe be the next England manager?