Exactly! Sean was just naive, and thrust into a situation he couldn't properly handle. But he cared about his team, and the community and the game itself for that matter. Reading stories about the 1 year + crunch is sickening. First you overwork these people during a pandemic, and then when they tell you multiple times that the game isn't ready you just say fuck it and release it anyways? It shows very little regard for the people behind the scenes.

In CP2077 "Crunch" is also the name of a weapon mod that stacks damage. Coincidence? 🤔

ust listen to the way the creator talks about his team so respectfully. Yes how he says "the team being dishonest or lazy" and goes into detail about not being lazy, but doesn't elaborate on criticism of deception. That spoke volumes to me.

I want to believe. I just want this game to be what they promised us.

@@daniel_netzel we all do, believe me we all do, that's why all we can hold on to right now is hope

@@tingamzengereza9066 This must be the first AAA release you’ve been interested in...

@@user-NameName obviously not

@@tingamzengereza9066 I find that hard to believe when every AAA release in recent memory has been garbage.

Thanks so much for checking it out! :D

If youre not careful, it can be a big time suck, but its suuuuuper relaxing to play. Its not the sort of engaging long term thing as Skyrim or RDR2, but it's a totally unique experience that can scratch an inch others don't even try to. Ive enjoyed it quite a lot recently, just walking around, checking out cool planets, building up my base, roaming around with my brother in game.

@@daniel_netzel i see, and since we cant go outside in our world, why not explore others, right? Hahaha

Thats a concern of mine as well, however, they're in a tough spot. A lot of their core audience feels totally betrayed, a lot of the dev team feels betrayed. That part about legacy in Sean's speech really rings true for me. And if CD Projekt isn't careful, they might lose both their audience and their best employees.

I think that you're probably right. But I think they should be wary, GTA has been so successful because Rockstar doesn't fuck around, they ALWAYS release really polished and fun games. If CDPR just moves on, I think a lot of their loyal audience won't be buying anything from them again.

Thanks dad!

Thanks dude! Here's hoping the algorithm decides its worth sharing lol A man of culture I see. No Mans Sky has shown how its done, I just hope CDPR takes the torch.

It had its bugs, but the content was there, the immersion, the A.I., the design. All of the good stuff that was promised, they just had some kinks to work out but I think thats true for most games these days. I feel like Cyberpunk has a lot more issues than The Witcher ever did.

...nevermind, checked your videography - it is VERY clear now why...

@@mariodrv me too. can't remember when.

@@krioni86sa You may have known him by his previous channel name "Film Radar".

Recent channel name change, but still the same ol me ;)

I honestly think they really duped us in the end, just showing footage that couldn't have possibly been real based on what the final product is. Not to mention all of the industry people with "hands on" experiences that totally blew their mind. We were lied to, and when its that juicy of a lie, how can we not fall in?

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Yo! My man Zack! Hope you're doing well, and thanks for checking out the video! Honestly I was one of the raging villagers with a torch and pitch fork when NMS first came out. It was my most eagerly awaited game and I was so disappointed in what we got, sold it and didn't think I'd ever look back. But it's come a long way, and is a really cool game now. Not exactly the most "fun" but I absolutely love just getting sucked in and enjoying it for what it is.

@@daniel_netzel Yeah I bought it digitally and never went through the process to return it so I could easily pick it back up. I get what you mean about it not necessarily being "fun" but still getting sucked in. Or at least, I think I do. Lol. I'll have to jump back into it once I get tired of Cyberpunk.

Thanks for subscribing! Yeah, I feel about the same. They never seem to respond to the bigger criticisms, just the performance side of things. But its a nice thought, and hell, maybe someone else will seize the opportunity and make a solid cyberpunk RPG that blows this out of the water.

Thank you for the kind words, and for subscribing! Honestly that was my favorite part to make, just imagining what these updates could be...Hopefully one day lol

Thank you so much Logan! You are too kind, I'm thankful to have a rare one like you in these comments.

I'm glad you enjoyed it! And thanks for subscribing :)

Welcome aboard! I hope you enjoy some of the other videos :D

Thanks JJ!

That is kind of you to say, thank you!

Thanks for watching!

I certainly hope so. There's a reason there was so much hype, because this was basically a dream come true for a lot of us. But we deserved better.

I loved that notion from Sean, like, these are your people. To invest that much time into a game that fast means they WANT to love it, and I think their feedback should absolutely be heard and addressed.

Thank you! It's tough to say, I got started into it after all of the updates, but I just ended quitting for very superficial reasons. Basically, it's one of the most beautiful games I've ever seen, but my computer can't handle it beyond medium-high, certainly it can't handle the ray tracing at all, and I was holding out for upgrading my graphics card before playing it more. But of what I played, it's undeniable that they've come a long way in fixing the issues, and I do look forward to playing more at some point!

Based on what we've seen, I don't even know if that would have been enough time. Some of the people working on the game said that 2022 was a realistic goal.

Thank you! I did mention this in the video, and I agree. All games start out a little rough, there's just no way around it with how massive and complex games have become. But the core of the game was evident right off the bat, and in my opinion is a masterpiece.

It's still the sort of game that isn't for everyone, but ive been really impressed with it. It's a nice change of pace from all the fast paced hyper competitive sort of games I usually like 😅

Well, that is what it SHOULD be. I hate how common this is becoming, the games industry thrives on hype and broken promises.

I think the idea would be to just put out a whole new fixed copy, instead of piling countless giant patches on top. I feel like itd be easy enough to send people a copy for free who had already paid full price, and I think thatd be better than everyone just getting a refund.

The amount of developers who put out a "gameplay demo" that's all completely faked is ridiculous, and I don't know why it's becoming normal. Just show real footage when you have it, if you have to make a CGI short film to advertise your game, maybe the game isn't ready lol

@@daniel_netzel to me the most unbelievable thing about all of this is that nobody seems to give a fuck about this fraud that it became at this point and the people keep buying this unfinished shit every fucking time and everytime they are pissed and feel betrayed but when the next game comes around the corner and does the exact same thing everybody buys them again.. thats the definition of insanity.

@@sebastianm.2901 The industry has gotten so big that meaningful change like the idea to "stop pre-ordering" is a fruitless endeavor since gamers will still pre-order, and publishers will still recoup costs before a game even comes out. Not like people will stop buying the next CoD out anything There's no incentive for change.

This is why you exclusively buy indie games on steam. The devs actually care if their game is complete or not.

I agree with this, but it's not really their "fault" (in quotes because obviously it is, but it goes beyond them). Games take MONEY to make. I capitalize because it is a LOT. More than movies, more than multiple movies. They have LOTS of moving parts and LOTS of different technologies needed to make it run. The term "engine" is extremely apropos. It's complicated, needs to move fast, and be reliable to be a workhorse. And, in the world of Capitalism, and in huge megacorps and publishing houses doleing out budget, you are CONSTANTLY harangued to justify the expenditure. And, with games getting better and better, and the constant need to re-invent the tools needed to make it operate because previous tech can only scale so far into next-gen hardware, it takes more and more time and resources to make something. CP2077 took 8 years, and probably needed another 2 in the oven, but HAD to release. Investors had stakes. Marketers built hype-machines that could not be turned off. Commitments were made and people staked livelihoods on them being honored. You need gorgeous sizzle reals to woo execs to keep feeding you funds. You need pre-orders to show enthusiasm and that people are "voting with their dollars" in your favor to secure investment and show there will be a payoff. The corps running the show are beholden to Capitalist principals like return on investment and IP security, and can't thrive on creativity alone. It's not a great world to exist in, either. Crunch is real. Union-busting and the "Hustle" mentality plague the industry. It is, just as much as teaching or nursing, a field of passion that often doesn't justify the compensation. I work in heavy industry and we siphon people away from gaming regularly because we pay better, the tech is more interesting, and we're more responsive. The talent left over for the meat grinder in the gaming world is not always the highest-quality, it's usually people who are just exceptionally passionate about playing games. And, it IS a meat grinder. Churn is huge, and leads to instability, especially at the big studios. This has been exceedingly long, the tl;dr is just that I agree that the industry is ill. Its lungs are black. But my argument is that its because of coal dust. It is a victim of its products. A victim of society. A victim of Capitalism and its vultures. And most of all, a victim of its own hubris.

The Witcher 3 is amazing, one of the coolest games I've ever played. Part of why this is all so disappointing 😞

It's genuinely awesome now. Still not a game for everyone, but holy shit what a turnaround. And for all the stuff I always cared about most, cooler planets, more variety, THINGS TO DO NOW. Its great haha.

Thanks dude!

I think they definitely will make it playable, but I have my doubts that we'll see any major improvements.

@@daniel_netzel what do you mean with major improvements, story wise or technical wise? I just hope that they make the game run smoother, I agree that the probably cant fix NPC behaviour. but can make it at least playable^^

I just think it's worse than bugs. Like, Roach ended up on the roof sometimes or ragdolls would freak out a bit, nothing game breaking. The story was still great, the combat, the RPG mechanics, the open world design and immersion, literally everything. Also, they definitely became more of a household name after TW3 but their first two Witcher games were highly acclaimed on both the art and tech sides. Witcher 2 is honestly still a gorgeous game.

My thoughts exactly. The Witcher 3 is one of my favorite games, it's seriously like Mass Effect Andromeda all over again.

you're vastly overestimating the ability of devs teams to plan ahead

Honestly I don't know what they thought would happen. Imagine buying a blu ray that's like 144p and expecting no one to say anything.

Truth. But here's hoping they at least try to turn things around.

@@daniel_netzel I hope they go under. This industry needs another crash.

@@user-NameName i wouldn't wish unemployment on hundreds of people, but I do hope that companies face consequences for shit like this. Truly unacceptable. When I worked at Starbucks I could lose my job for giving someone the wrong milk in their latte, but these companies can straight up lie to get hundreds of millions of dollars from working class people and nothing happens? Its frustrating.

Every time I think about it, it hurts.

I do end the video with the notion that I am just being naive, but a guys gotta dream 😂 I agree though, I'd genuinely be shocked, but they have the money, they've got the team, so it COULD happen. Its just sadly not likely.

@@daniel_netzel Yes, CDPR, just allocate a team of a couple dozen or so people to quietly work on finishing the broken and unfinished systems over the next few years and give us the game that you told us about two years ago :-)

I'm assuming you haven't watched the full video yet, but I discuss within why I think Cyberpunk has more serious issues than bugs or glitches, and I think they also released a game that was not as it was advertised. I'm also wary of the 90% critical reviews that seem not to care about most of what the community is mentioning, like horrible NPC A.I., promised features cut, lack of dialogue options, awful cop system. There are genuine complaints to be had that stretch well beyond bugs, if you still enjoy the game then I say all the power to you, but I wouldn't so easily dismiss honest criticism of a game people wanted to love.

And after you finish this video, go watch crowbcats video. It's clearly not just bug fixes needed on the pc. There's a whole world missing.

I was so happy seeing him return. No one does it quite like Crowbcat. The montage of Saints Row and Lego City being more immersive really got to me.

Part of the channel name change is because I want to explore other topics I'm passionate about, but rest assured there will be plenty more movie/TV related stuff in the future, my next video in fact is on The Mummy(1999).