WHAT DO LEAFS DO IF MARNER & TAVARES DON’T WAIVE NO MOVEMENT CLAUSES?

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Host of OverDrive Brian Hayes joins 7-Eleven That's Hockey on SportsCentre to discuss the what took place at the Toronto Maple Leafs Management news conference, the results of the playoffs, the core-four, and more!

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@SimRacingVeteran Ай бұрын

Hire Babs as a coach and watch Marner waive that no move clause.

@adamson1957 Ай бұрын

Just here to say Hayes is an absolute stud on these panels... we see it on Overdrive but ... he's good! One of the best.

@TheKingOfPuppets747 Ай бұрын

Calm down bro

@John577 Ай бұрын

Actually, he's just eating the low hanging fruit. I've not heard him say a single creative idea. Actually, I think his banter hurts the chance that real moves will get done.

@jdpbk93 Ай бұрын

@@John577alright

@Takhar7 Ай бұрын

@John577 they don't make organizational decisions based on what Bryan Hayes says

@gordonbgraham Ай бұрын

Hayes is good but he mewls far too much about the media getting flack for criticizing players, meanwhile here he’s suggesting making it uncomfortable for those with NMC so as to run them out of town. He’s obviously dull witted

@davidjohnson-fw5co Ай бұрын

7-8 years with the fluff four. I didn't realize its been that long. And just one playoff round win. Brutal! Move them.

@salmanomar7510 Ай бұрын

53% of a team's cap tied to 4 players is ridiculous, no wonder they can't keep other players around how do you use the remaining 47% to get 19 other solid players?

@titanmma101 Ай бұрын

60% in 5 players if you include Reilly, who made crucial mistakes and isn't preoducing.

@stephenkutrip6226 Ай бұрын

This to me is the big flaw with the pay structure. Everyone wants to win but on some subconscious level do the 19 look at the 5 in the playoffs and say "Time to earn all that money."?

@KimBouchard Ай бұрын

Ask Dubas.

@JimmyKnies Ай бұрын

Its dubas that handed those absorbed contracts out. Hopefully the new management will change things but they still have Shanahan unfortunately

@Listman11 Ай бұрын

4 players? 4 forwards. Two of them need to be a stud defenseman and an elite goalie.

@user-ce4tk4ko5v Ай бұрын

When a 21 yrs old guy is you best performer in the playoffs there is something wrong with guys making 11 million not producing and a guy making league minimum playing with a lot a heart taking hits to make plays he is built for playoffs only 21 yrs old knies♥️

@bradhodgkinson7996 Ай бұрын

The biggest mistake made was not signing ZACH HYMAN THIS GUY SHOWED UP AND WORKED HARD EVERY NIGHT

@drunkenastarte5243 Ай бұрын

Hyman was due a minimum 5 - 5.5mil/year payday. The Laughs literally could not afford to sign him because they've locked up 50+mil of the cap in their so-called 'Core 4' + Reilly. But yes, Hyman is *exactly* the kind of heart & soul, true grit player the Loafs need at least 4-5 of to make them competitive in the playoffs.

@johnnygag1 Ай бұрын

I've Been saying that since they let him walk to sign the others, a huge mistake

@johngallagher72 Ай бұрын

Only problem was he couldnt score against Montreal and misssed glorious chance after glorious chance. Granted it was Carey Price and Hyman wasnt the only reason we lost but he missed a ton of chances that series he should have buried.

@AaronStephenTaylor Ай бұрын

I don't think anyone could have foreseen him becoming a 50 goal scorer, but I thought he was great and it was a mistake to let him walk.

@ThePalisky Ай бұрын

their biggest mistake was not trading one of their core to free space to sign Alex Pietrangelo not even close

@daveyboy2497 Ай бұрын

Get Gerard Gallant, who will sit them on bench if effort is not put out

@Beep-Boop101 Ай бұрын

Another rerun of Ground Hog Day for next season

@billboggs6641 Ай бұрын

Put up with them until the end of the next season and let them declare themselves free agents. After they're gone there will be lots of cap room to obtain 3 or 4 physical players with the grit leafs need

@Danstraightedge Ай бұрын

Haysey B crushing it as always

@stug5041 Ай бұрын

You tell Marner he’s not wanted, the fan base gets on him, he’ll waive. He can’t take the fan pressure, we know this. So pressure him outta town. Marner brings a decent return, picks his destination. JT is a different story - you deal with the bad contract for a year and then keep him at a lower price.

@apprenticephil649 Ай бұрын

What return?😂😂😂. Who’s taking an $11 million contract and giving up assets with similar value? Noooobody

@nadia0701 Ай бұрын

Bench Marner until he waives. Retain 50% and pick up a prospect and a 1st rounder for the future. Use cash to keep Domi and Bert. Take a half step back next year. In 2025, you free up the other half of Marner's contract and are out from Tavares. I'd re-sign JT at $2m x 4 yrs to have him on the 3rd line wing. Now you have another $5M + $9m + cap increase of $4m to get a goal and some D. Maybe you get lucky developing Cowan or Minten or Grebyonkin by '25-'26.

@stug5041 Ай бұрын

@@apprenticephil649 a team looking for an all star first line RW who’s in need of offense and doesn’t have a top heavy payroll. You may have to sell him for 75 cents on the dollar, but let’s not act like he’s a 4th line plug. He had a bad series, and has before - and some other GM will think “look at that skill, we need offense, let’s take the gamble.” Happens every summer many times over from GMs feeling the pressure to improve their team or lose their job.

@tylerjohnson8973 Ай бұрын

@@apprenticephil649your an idiot.....for example.....sens would take him in straight up trade for tkachuk no questions asked

@nadia0701 Ай бұрын

I think the only way to force Marner out is to bench him until he waives his nmc. Leafs retain 50%. Leafs will lose the trade, but still get a good return. The '24-'25 season is for retooling.

@occultustactical6138 Ай бұрын

I know they don’t want hear this but the Leafs need to start over. A coach might help, but I think there is too much “set in their ways” with this team. The fact that they might ask them to leave would build a lot of animosity. You better be prepared to buy them out.

@matthoffman6962 Ай бұрын

The frustrating part is look how they played in game 5 and 6. It’s like they have the ability to play well. They just can’t close anything out.

@JohnnyLREACTS Ай бұрын

I think Marner would have no issue waiving if he was asked. I'm sure he would prefer to stay, but if you say we want to trade you I mean, he already has the fan base on him it's probably a relief to leave in the end. Tavares would be more difficult. I can't see any circumstance he accepts to move.

@sc1344 Ай бұрын

I bet they won't even ask him too move cuz they want to resign him at an extremely discounted rate. Maybe 8mill over 2 years. He'd be wrth every penny of that

@petervenier505 Ай бұрын

No changes here ! Bring it all back !!!

@boldstreetlad Ай бұрын

Once new coach in place I think the only possible "core 4" move they can make is to have John Tavares come in for a discussion, not to trade him but to discuss a few things politely and talk about him on third line and mybe the C being given to Matthews

@KimBouchard Ай бұрын

I don't agree about Matthews. He's stared straight ahead with dead eyes while on the bench too many times. I could tell this loss hurt because he was much more engaged.

@bradd.7829 Ай бұрын

Shanahan knew when it was time to step off the ice as a player. Too bad he doesn't know when it is time to step away as a suit.

@motley22crue Ай бұрын

It's not that they don't want them anymore, it's that their contracts are a hinderance. Sit them down and tell them if they want to remain Leafs, they'll have to leave some money on the table so the team can build a good team around them.

@apprenticephil649 Ай бұрын

Their contracts are iron clad. How will they leave money on the table when it’s guaranteed in their contract?

@motley22crue Ай бұрын

@@apprenticephil649 I was referring to when it comes time to talk extensions.

@chrismeade764 Ай бұрын

@@motley22crueI don't think you understand. Taxes is canada suck for players. It might look like they are over paid but they're not. Go look.up.the Tavares situation. They want like 10 million in taxes

@jimlangdon1947 Ай бұрын

Just healthy scratch both of them. Maybe for geriatric health concerns - JT can be moved to Long Term Injury Reserve. JT couldn’t possibly been healthy when he skated slower than Maroon against the Bruins. Matthews on the wing could prevent him from looking so bad - Matthews is a proven playoff disappointment at centre. Of course the Leafs also have a much better record with Morgan out of the lineup. Boy the Core 4 screw up against Columbus years ago and nobody bothered doing anything since back then. 😀

@davidmcnamara8024 Ай бұрын

in one year 23 million comes off the books. Let them play.

@JimmyKnies Ай бұрын

I say trade marner but yes, valid point

@vmi4172 Ай бұрын

And waste another season? You Leafs fan are born losers lol

@TheTHCbaby Ай бұрын

Marners gotta go, and if they don’t trade him they waste a 4th pick, and won’t get another that high for a while

@davidmcnamara8024 Ай бұрын

@@TheTHCbaby if they don't Toronto has 2 extremely motivated players of talent . They'll be playing for their next contract. If Toronto waits Vegas or LA will fork it over. Either was this saga will be a long arc.

@michaelb4590 Ай бұрын

So another wasted year is what you propose

@oldmanbucksaw Ай бұрын

Nothing will change over the summer. They'll have a hot start with a new coach. Plan the parade. Get out out in the first round. And we'll be in the exact same place this time next year kids.

@rickrobitaille8809 Ай бұрын

Nothing else matters 🎶🔥🇨🇦

@richardhayling4339 Ай бұрын

The fans make them so miserable and unhappy that they beg to be traded that’s what we do if they don’t waive their clauses

@scarbourgeoisie Ай бұрын

Can you say Larry Murphy?

@ParryPickleballking-es2el Ай бұрын

It was the same lip service we've always heard. Shanahan needs to be fired. As for Marner and Tavares, why would you want to stay on a team that you're not wanted on?!

@MisterMister5893 Ай бұрын

Like ODog said, MONAY! Who would pay these guys the Leafs paid them? Someone else will be giving him his next contract but at what number?

@markg2307 Ай бұрын

Because they don’t care.

@MadarakiFran Ай бұрын

Marner is the softest piece of wet tissue, he will stay in his comfort zone and not waive it and hurt the leafs another year.

@agi2160 Ай бұрын

@@MisterMister5893San Jose offered JT more, but pajama boy wanted to come home.

@leochirichiello1101 Ай бұрын

@@agi2160and I’m very thankful he did cause he scored the game winning goal to beat Tampa last year

@TheDavidGoldmanphoto Ай бұрын

Amazing how first Keef took responsibility then Shanahan took responsibility then Treliving took responsibility. They can't all jump on the grenade...Unless if by doing that nobody takes any real responsibility. That was hilarious.

@15jstone Ай бұрын

Send them to the Marlies like Ottawa did to Wade Redden if they don’t want to waive it.

@chrispswann6825 Ай бұрын

It was the Rangers that sent Redden to the minors

@johnropac5538 Ай бұрын

No movement clauses

@tplomonte Ай бұрын

There is winning and then there is WINNING. Winning in the playoffs is all about winning ! Winning a Division a Confrence is Winning . Winning to just make the playoffs they have done that with little success! 3 players need to be asked regarding no move clauses. 44 16 91. As for the next Captain who will be a leader on the ice and off who has the qualities of a Captain you want to have . Jake McCabe has those qualities, if they keep Edmondson possible.Domi possible if they can resign him Sorry Mathews does not have those Qualities. As for Alternates Kempf Mathews Nylander Ryan Reaves

@scarbourgeoisie Ай бұрын

Marner needs a good last year of his term to parlay into a well paying contract in a new location. His life could be miserable here, especially if the Leafs keep him off the penalty kill and especially the power play where he gets beau coup points. Marner would have to be put in play way before free agent season in case so interested team would see what that have left after July 1 for another FA interests. Tavares, that move is much harder since it would be pure salary dump. Money would have to be retained and carrot would have to be dangled in order to move him. Marner would go easy if he was available.

@andygrenn680 Ай бұрын

Just an idea but has the time come when Toronto needs, deserves and can support a second NHL franchise….

@apprenticephil649 Ай бұрын

Exactly. That’s the only way the Leafs get competitive. When the eyes and butts fill another teams seats

@andygrenn680 Ай бұрын

@@apprenticephil649 Competition not found on the ice…is an economic force…

@hughjass1044 Ай бұрын

Even if they did convince them to move, I'm pretty sure they're not going to get nearly the return for them they think they're going to get. If you're trying to unload a guy who's not performing, then everyone else knows this and the first question they ask is "if you don't want him, why do we?" And then there are those cap hits. Besides that, neither of them has term beyond the end of next season so any team that took them would be doing so as a rental unless they agreed to an extension first. I agree with Hayes; I think they're stuck with both of them.

@brianfromtheambar7944 Ай бұрын

I'm 67. I saw the last cup win. I know what a real team looks like - but this isn't anything like it. And so I have seen this movie before. Change the world, then hurry up and stay the same. The leafs are a joke from the top down, and we fans are the punch line. Nothing changes, and never will until the fans boycott the team, the merchandise, the broadcasters, and the sponsors. But we won't. So, why would they do anything when the formula seems to be "Do not pray for sun when the storm is drowning us in cash"? This has to be the paradigm of 'getting the clowns to pay the circus'.

@PabloGonzalez-hv3td Ай бұрын

The team with the league's leading goal scorer is a joke? The Toronto fanbase is the real problem. Up there with Buffalo Bills fans.

@briansquitti5419 Ай бұрын

Yes. You need a coach who can make a game plan and go with the flow

@DPHPGF Ай бұрын

How much cap space would buyouts be?. Both of them have to go. If not voluntarily, then by force. Trade them for nothing, or buy them out.

@matthoffman6962 Ай бұрын

Good thing you don’t run an nhl team

@johnsummerhill8323 Ай бұрын

If Marner goes, so do the playoffs.

@forte7991 Ай бұрын

Yeah you tell em

@samdrewbies7883 Ай бұрын

We want Crosby!

@Takhar7 Ай бұрын

Hayesy B always spitting 🔥. Awesome as usual - he gets it

@petermcateer1354 Ай бұрын

Put them in the press box every other game?

@ssarmazi Ай бұрын

Guys…we’re stuck for another season. Marner and Tavares aren’t waiving anything. Our only hope is the new coach can motivate them or get the PP going while Treliving brings on better players. The core four isn’t changing until next summer.

@logan9758 Ай бұрын

I would just buy out Marner and eat that last year, I don’t want that ******* toxic loser in my locker room

@nadia0701 Ай бұрын

If Marner doesn't waive, let him be a healthy scratch. He had no trouble sitting out during the last negotiation

@apprenticephil649 Ай бұрын

@@nadia0701yeah, healthy scratching an 80 pt player will turn the cart around….

@nadia0701 Ай бұрын

@apprenticephil649 Yes, we need to encourage him to waive his mnc to get a few assets back. Dumb to let him walk for nothing.

@dc7442 Ай бұрын

In the end, whenever Marner and Tavares end up leaving, they will end up winning a cup with whatever team they land on, and dominate the Leafs any time they play them again. That’s the typical trajectory of any player the Leafs trade.

@STONE69_ Ай бұрын

All the Leafs did was add one more layer, which just wastes more and holds teams back.

@user-nb9od6dg4v Ай бұрын

They made the easy moves 1st. Winning cups is brutal hard work. After a long winning season, they need to play even better & play a brutal series. Example, blocking slap shots is a dangerous, brutal way to help win the series. Every cup winning team knows it & the leafs started to block shots in 2024 against Boston. They won these couple of games!

@kmash6523 Ай бұрын

A coach should have a say. Not the final decision, but a say.

@wesleyp3579 Ай бұрын

I liked Keefe but at times it seemed he was Marner’s friend instead of his coach. What’s absolutely mind blowing is that Marner will be wanting MORE than his current $10.9 mil when it’s time for his next contract

@apprenticephil649 Ай бұрын

Good luck getting it!😂😂

@yazdani3289 Ай бұрын

Not a Leaf Fan here, but i think Marner has to Go! The Toronto media is hurting him..like this guy matt hayes

@MrNelsonThall Ай бұрын

The Leafs need to do very very little. Keep Entertaining the fans because they are owned by an Entertainment Company not a Hockey Company. In fact private internal surveys from audience studies reveal that even when the Leafs lose by a very small margin especially in the overtime, creates a more entertaining form of hockey for the fans.

@g.u.6897 Ай бұрын

Same thing coming 2025-2026. Will sell some more jerseys I guess.

@RalphAnger Ай бұрын

If they won't accept a trade tell them they are now becoming part of the new "D" core.

@stewardo Ай бұрын

I could listen to Brian Hayes read off car lease contracts verbatim.

@marcosmendosaonyoutube Ай бұрын

They need to run a public marketing campaign to hear what the public has to say. The slogan can be, “If Good isn’t Good Enough, then what will be Good Enough?” They need to promote this campaign all over the city. TTC, Yonge and Dundas Square, Malls, etc Put the people’s opinion to work and listen to what we the fans suggest.

@apprenticephil649 Ай бұрын

Or the public could stop attending games and buying their merchandise if they really wanted to make a statement

@marcosmendosaonyoutube Ай бұрын

@@apprenticephil649 I wouldn’t boycott the games to make a statement. Positive reinforcement can bring the city together.

@thet3504 Ай бұрын

Tavares is not an issue.. Reilly is NOT a number 1 defenseman. Edmonton, Vegas, Vancouver, LA, Tampa, Colorado, Rangers, Dallas etc... all have 1 or 2 defensman better than Reilly

@rickrobitaille8809 Ай бұрын

Hayes nailed it 😁🇨🇦

@TrevorStevens91 Ай бұрын

Just trade em to whoever isn’t on their list and get the best possible prospects and high end draft picks

@MrBananaGiraffe1111 Ай бұрын

I think everyone’s gotta chill out a bit…. It took ovi over 10 years with the same core to win a cup and the whole time before they were getting demolished by the pens

@brianmouland209 Ай бұрын

They could trade one for a quality goalie

@ParryPickleballking-es2el Ай бұрын

It's absolutely what they need to do

@billytessio6326 Ай бұрын

Matthews for Demko

@Diademic111 Ай бұрын

I like Woll and I think he's a pretty decent goaltender, but I don't think he's ready to be a starter, the Leafs definitely need to make a trade for a quality tender (if Varlamov weren't 35, I'd suggest talking to the Islanders because they need a playmaking forward to help generate offense and I don't think there's a chance in hell they'd trade Sorokin lol)... maybe Alex Nedeljkovic from Pittsburgh but they hardly need another playmaking forward, doubt they'd have any use for Marner.

@bradleyhenry2411 Ай бұрын

Leafs only have about 20mil in cap space with around 12 returnees. That doesn't leave a lot of room for good signings at all. Marner and Tavares need to be traded, only way I see it happening is in a 3 team trade to eat some of the cap hits.

@johnsummerhill8323 Ай бұрын

Neither player can be traded without consenting. I doubt that will happen. I would ask Matthews to waive his no trade and trade him to a US team.

@bradleyhenry2411 Ай бұрын

@johnsummerhill8323 there's no way they try trade Matthews after extending him. Those NMCs are killing the Leafs.

@johnsummerhill8323 Ай бұрын

@@bradleyhenry2411 Nothing is off the table. Matthews contract is more advantageous to other teams. Marner has been more important to the team over the last 7 years so moving Matthews wouldn't bother me. After his great season, he would bring back a really good return.

@bindardondat5292 Ай бұрын

Shanahan has not proven he is capable of being in charge

@user-gk7ri1em4x Ай бұрын

They'll send them to the press box.

@frogs256 Ай бұрын

If mitch and jt don’t waive threaten to scratch them for the entire season. Final contract years for both guys so it’s in their best interest to play even if it’s not with the leafs

@johnsummerhill8323 Ай бұрын

Can't be done. Don't be stupid.

@apprenticephil649 Ай бұрын

Yeah just scratch 23 mil in salary and get worse. Good idea!😂😂😂

@99HockeyDad99 Ай бұрын

Run it back !!!!

@carter7944 Ай бұрын

Your a bonehead!

@user-ce4tk4ko5v Ай бұрын

If they sit marner all year his value will go down to 7 million for being in active

@rodbottomley4514 Ай бұрын

Hard on Tavares in my opinion. Marner has way more to answer for.

@ShortsAndSweater Ай бұрын

The fraud makes some great points.

@stuffnsuch631 Ай бұрын

It's wild how long it took people to see dubas was destroying the team. It's wild that shanny was going to rehiring the donkey. The team is epicly screwed for the next 3 yrs and possibly decade if they don't sell some stuff and get some picks again.

@apprenticephil649 Ай бұрын

Who can they sell? To whom? This team is screwed

@gc8620 Ай бұрын

The core 4 need to pull a Tom Brady: take a pay cut for the team to get the players needed to win.

@apprenticephil649 Ай бұрын

This isn’t the NFL bro. Contracts don’t get restructured.

@bryantessier4460 Ай бұрын

If They were to trade Mitch. It should be to Pittsburgh. Crosby has 1 year left and Crosby will be 37.Crosby + 2 players for Mitch & a 4 th .As long as Sidney signs a 4 year deal. Leafs save on the cap. Pit can start a light rebuild. That’s my guess on only deal I would make. Keep Mitch and move him mid season if nothing is working. GRIT GRIT GRIT

@agi2160 Ай бұрын

😂 Other than Sid not going to TO and retiring a Pen, great idea, Tessier 👍

@vmi4172 Ай бұрын

And then throw in JT for Malkin. And then throw in Rielly for Letang. And then throw in McCabe for Karlsson. Then throw in a bag of pucks for one of their goalies. Yea we got this.. CUP CUP CUP

@carter7944 Ай бұрын

Turning the penguins into the leafs good idea

@bellamydrake9343 Ай бұрын

TSN please fix your crappy no one can hear audio.

@razorwire3056 Ай бұрын

$11,000,000... no state income tax... theyll both pick Florida Tampa or Dallas. Guaranteed

@Borderline1988-pv1wx Ай бұрын

Dont kill me…I would give it one more try. I would certainly try to trade Marner. You may have to wait till Tavares come off the books. Matthews and Nylander are in their primes, so you cannot demo this team and tank for future draft picks. They pushed the Bruins to game 7 overtime and a stupid play by Sammy and Marner ended the series.

@fredborowski1943 Ай бұрын

They do alot of winning during the regular season but not during the playoffs

@Rko453 Ай бұрын

your videos are always way too quiet

@agi2160 Ай бұрын

Or you're deaf

@carter7944 Ай бұрын

Yeah your deaf

@rickrobitaille8809 Ай бұрын

LFG BABY 😁🇨🇦😄

@jimlangdon1947 Ай бұрын

Just healthy scratch JT and Mitch until they agree to a trade. In a place Vegas - Mitch might actually have a real chance to win a Stanley Cup. 😀 Sincerely, good luck wherever you are traded Mitch. 😀

@apprenticephil649 Ай бұрын

Yeah just healthy scratch $23 million in cap salary. Good idea!😂😂😂

@jimlangdon1947 Ай бұрын

@@apprenticephil649 Just until they agree to trades.

@jimlangdon1947 Ай бұрын

@@apprenticephil649 My guess is sitting healthy in the press box - they agree to trades quickly. 😀😀

@HeGuyo Ай бұрын

I think Rogers overcharged me on my phone bill. And that is the only impact this company has on me. Move on folks.

@professorfoxtrot Ай бұрын

We boo them... Every... Single... Night...

@paulthompson8793 Ай бұрын

Just suck it up for the year, not much they can really do if both don't wanna go.

@bogdank2790 Ай бұрын

If Marner and Tavares don’t want to their no trade clause…easy BOO them every time they touch the puck..they’ll get tired of it sooner than later

@Givy55 Ай бұрын

Tavares will resign for peanuts after next year and finish out his career as a Leaf IMO. Third line centre for league min. or cut him loose! Marner will not wave IMO and the Leafs will not resign him and will lose him to free agency for nothing! Because a new contract comes with a pay cut and the no wave clause will be not included making a sign and trade very difficult. In any case they are stuck with these guys and they have pretty much no moves to change it. Which is what i think they secretly want. I think Shanahan wants to keep them together and will shrug saying there's nothing they could do!! If anyone gets moved it might be Morgan Reiley!! Or did they give him a no movement clause also? LOL P.S. No movement clauses are stupid and should be outlawed by the league!

@Chima4289 Ай бұрын

Marner is not a physical player, but so is Panarin, and so was Patrick Kane

@michaelprime7621 Ай бұрын

Big mistake Shanahan making Dubas GM biggest mistake in the past 10 years. Waste of money and time FIRE SHANAHAN

@user-sn8sw2vi8z Ай бұрын

Sundin declined a trade before so Marner and JT can do the same? 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

@samdrewbies7883 Ай бұрын

Sundin was actually able to Score on Boston!

@user-sn8sw2vi8z Ай бұрын

@@samdrewbies7883 🙄🙄🙄

@chrispswann6825 Ай бұрын

Trade him to Ottawa for Jakob Chychrun. This may seem laughable at first, but keep in mind that Chychrun has a cap hit of 4.6 million which means the Leafs would get over 6 million in cap space as long as Ottawa takes all of Marner's contract. Money that could be used to sign a good free agent like Steven Stamkos. And Chychrun is a solid 40 point defenseman. He would be the Leafs 2nd best defenseman after Reilly.

@johnsummerhill8323 Ай бұрын

You don't understand what a no trade contract is.

@apprenticephil649 Ай бұрын

Why the hell would any team, even Ottawa take on an 11.5 million cap hit AND give up assets for Marner in an RFA year?😂😂😂😂😂

@johnsummerhill8323 Ай бұрын

@@apprenticephil649 That is why Matthews makes a better trade piece. He is already signed. But again, he would need to agree to wave his no trade clause. The Leafs won more games with Matthews out of the lineup than they won when he was out of the lineup. Unlike Marner.

@chrispswann6825 Ай бұрын

@@apprenticephil649 Chychrun is also a UFA after this season. It's just one team giving up a pending UFA for another. And Chychrun has already said he has no plans to re-sign with Ottawa

@johnsummerhill8323 Ай бұрын

@@chrispswann6825He is not a great defenceman. The Leafs are not going to be interested in him.

@Oldmanflyfishing Ай бұрын

You trash their reputation as greedy SOBS and it will be addition by subtraction the end of next season

@forte7991 Ай бұрын

Change will happen. Mark my word. Keep Marner in the press box, Tavares no longer gets the C

@apprenticephil649 Ай бұрын

Ok dude😂😂😂😂😂

@brandonallen7748 Ай бұрын

i think you extend marner at a good deal and trade tavares

@mastertonef Ай бұрын

Here's another interesting historical fact. Brendan Shanahan was hired on the 24th anniversary of Harold Ballard's death.

@johnsummerhill8323 Ай бұрын

Ballard's teams rarely made the playoffs. Shanahan's teams always make the playoffs.

@mastertonef Ай бұрын

@@johnsummerhill8323I agree. I'm just saying that it could be another reason why they haven't gone further in the playoffs given how talented the core four are.

@johnsummerhill8323 Ай бұрын

@@mastertonef As long as you realize that the only goal for a Canadian team is to go further. They cannot win a Cup the way things are setup in the NHL. It is being run by Americans in order to only allow the Cup to be won by American teams.

@vt1340 Ай бұрын

It will cost you more to move JT than it will to let him walk.

@twitchinjalapeno8929 Ай бұрын

6 Leafs videos in the last 5 hours. Wow.

@StarFinderWebb Ай бұрын

Largest market largest news story. Obviously

@Renegade777-kn2br Ай бұрын

Hire Sutter it’s too bad Torts has a job already that would get rid of them

@johnsummerhill8323 Ай бұрын

They still win with Matthews out of the lineup. Ask him to waive his no trade. Marner has neen more valuable over the years .

@user-fv9nl6bb8l Ай бұрын

Marner for Crosby.

@rvanleersum Ай бұрын

Who's taking JT unless Toronto retains cap and further depletes their depleted pool? Doesn't fix a thing.

@ardenherman4176 Ай бұрын

Then you play the season out.

@Mrunlucky0000 Ай бұрын

Well, the boyz will be sent down 😂

@randyhiusser4581 Ай бұрын

Don't give. What they want to be paid and sit them

@user-qo1gk2kj3e Ай бұрын

Move the team to Quebec City and leave Tavares ana Marner in Tranna

@maxpayne9041 Ай бұрын

They better do something other than make excuses of why the leafs brass couldn't get it done and its not the coach its this core 5 players IT MUST BE CHANGED TO MOVE FORWARDS IF THIS DOSENT CHANGE IM DONE 53 YEARS IS LONG ENOUGH TO BE A FAN OF LOOSERS.

@Oldmanflyfishing Ай бұрын

Neither are going to waive. Mitch walks and JT resigns back on as a 3rd line center

@litgaming2178 Ай бұрын

You see if marner and taveras will take a 3-5 million dollar pay cut 😊

@garycochrane4829 Ай бұрын

Can’t re-negotiate exiting contracts.

@litgaming2178 Ай бұрын

@@garycochrane4829 I was talking about extension

@99HockeyDad99 Ай бұрын

Keeping keeping shanahan is a weak move !!!

@samdrewbies7883 Ай бұрын

Trade Marner,Tavares ,Reilly.....try to get Crosby, some big physical defenceman..and use Woll as starting goalie

@cackoocacho1629 Ай бұрын

They reflect on the garbage contracts that they offered them. Ofc not, they try and force them out, so they can give equally garbage contracts to other players, and then be in the same boat in a few years from now. This is the Leafs we're talking about here.