If you’re going to show a drummer a Nightwish performance to show off Kai’s drumming, you should show them The Devil and The Deep Dark Ocean performance from Buenos Aires

It starts 6/8, 6/8, 5/8, 6/8, then 4/4, 4/4, 3/4, 4/4 then straight 4/4. The time signatures keep changing throughout the song. Kai has a click track to stay in time with the orchestral backing track. The audio is probably coming from the drum cam audio track.

Kai's drum cam video of "Wishmaster" from this same show really shows off his abilities - Speed, precision, & rhythm!

That is the same here. He has the click track and is responsible for the tempo. I would have loved to see him experience Yukka. That said, Kai is awesome!!

There are no mistakes, other than in the analysis. Hahto is a metronome and they play to a click to match backing track. The audio is just delayed. Watch wintersun "Sons of Winter and sun" and get blown away.

There are some great drum cams out there of Kai. Weak Fantasy and Tribal for Nightwish, Sons of Winter and Stars for Wintersun even his early days in Rotten Sound. He also gives a lesson to a fan from the local area before most shows and has done laods of clinics. Considering his off the scale talent and skill, he's one of the most down to earth and humble guys in metal. His idol is Nicko from Maiden.

Wish they had a drum cam for Devil in the Deep Dark Ocean! 😎🤩🤯

If you really want to impress a drummer check out Kai's previous band Wintersun and their live rehearsal videos: Time and Sons of Winter and Sun. Or even his older stuff Rotten Sound.

There is a superb video of Kai Hahto warming up or maybe a drum cam of him playing on Wintersun's Sons of Winter and Stars. Here is his warm up video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aamKjMuAnNy-nKM.html

For a bit more Kai, do drumming to a song from Wintersun, the other band he and the latest Bassist for Nightwish come from. look at this: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qsiSa9Bk3LS8kqc.html

Kai Hahto is a blast beat god!

Tuomas Holopainen(Keyboardist, composer, band founder) uses in-ears and wedges in many shows. In Wembley he had those.

I am pretty sure that there is no mistakes in the sound of the drums or his playing. He's that professional and accurate. He's studied by some great blues etc drummers in the U.S. years ago. Nicko from Iron Maiden also ranks him high as he has asked Kai to try his kit out too. And as someone said you could say Kai is more like Neil Peart whereas Jukka (the original drummer of Nightwish) is more like John Bonham. This comparison was said by Marko Hietala their former bassist.

My understanding is that the whole band uses a click track and custom in-ear mixes for each member. Kia has a control for his in ear mix beside him.

I love how you found them accidentally. So many of my fave singers and bands I have found in weird and wonderful ways.

Great reaction!

While any song featuring Kai on drums will be a solid performance, Ghost Love Score is not the song I would choose to do a drum cam review...... Its solid, but just not a drum showcase song. Do the drum cam of Kai playing Wintersun....... he proves he is at the absolute top of drummers today.

I don’t think anything is unintentional with Tuomas…

The guys behind the scenes have worked with nightwish for years God bless

you should do "devil and the deep dark ocean" - focussing on kai. He is one of the very best drummer of the world, many times heard. a human metronom

Kai has a Drum Clinic video playing Tribal - awesome!

I was in that concert. ❤

Praw! You really made my day! Kai aka the human metronome is a gentle beast!❤

Really enjoyed this reaction.

Loved this, such a unique perspective!

Should have explained to him right from the start just how huge and old of a band you were talking about. Nightwish is insanely popular and respected outside of the US

Hi Joel Another great reaction, thanks man 😊

I kind of think about Jukka as comparable to John Bonham, someone who beats the hell of the drums, and Kai as Neil Peart, a human metronome with great fill control. Bonham and Peart are considered two of the greatest drummers of all time, so I don't mean my prior statement as meaning that's where I place the 2 NW drummers. I'm comparing styles and then comparing them to each other only. Both Jukka and Kai are amazing drummers, just different styles. You need to listen to Kai in the Wintersun video "Suns of Winter and Stars", the studio rehearsal version. That will tell you how incredible he is.

Winter Suns is where you'll see his best. Kai makes me miss Jakku. His energy was something else.

For drumming videos...Weak Fantasy at Tampere or Devil in the Deep Dark Ocean.

Love this😊 It woul be great if you also show him the whole performance!

🇬🇧 Norfolk reports for duty we are blessed in Nightwish to have had two of the best drummers

There are better songs to highlight Kai's ability. Try the Decades Tour in Buenos Aires which was all recorded ... "End of All Hope" is a good one, of course my favorites are "Greatest Show on Earth", "Poet and Pendulum", because of all the tempo changes ..

If you really want to see Kai Hahto in full Beast Mode, check out "Sons of Winter and Stars" by Wintersun.

"Sons of Winter and Stars" by Wintersun-immediately

super awesome!!

I still like Jukka's drumming a little bit better. For drumming styles, I always preferred more of a wrist technique, like Shannon Larkin of Godsmack, and like Jukka. And of course don't forget the famous Godsmack "Drum Battle" videos with Sully Erna.

This was pretty cool. Never heard it like this before. What I found the most interesting was that it sounds very different than what you hear as an audience. The way the drums and cymbals sound is different in a way.

Lovely reaction do checkout Kai warming up for Wintersun drum cam.

As a former sound tech, you better make sure we remain your friends, especially when you're also singing hehehe, we can be evil when you piss us off :P But i am sure you know all about the evil sound techs can do hehehe. Jokes aside, sound techies come in many "flavors" and many are stubborn as F. That being said, i think i can honestly say i was one of those techies who actually tried to listen to the band and give them the time needed for soundchecks and setups. But then again, it was more of a hobby for me so the love for the job never changed, it never became a drag so to speak. Yet.. i would be lying my arse off if i claimed i never took revenge against annoying musicians lol, i sure have.. especially when i worked monitors, never mess with the monitor guy hehehe. You will know this but.. it is never smart to piss of either of the main sound technicians, pissing of the FOH guy is bad, pissing of the monitor guy is.. deadly.. never ever piss of the monitor guy or girl is what i'm saying lol. (they hold your musicians faith in their hands, do even think about it... lol) Not ashamed to say.. i've cut of monitors just before a big belt by the singer... it never goes well for them ;) Dang you, that tech banter has me all in nostalgia land here ... lol, was fun times anyway ;) Thnx for the video and react from your buddy :D

Kai Hato is machine,wintersun song is crazy

4/4 ain't a big deal with Tuomas

the beat skip...VERY intentional. Yuka already did this

There is slight delay on the rest of the other group members sound. You can hear it clearly when Floor sings. I have heard this song like 10 thousand times (without exaggerating). Maybe that is why he hears some off sound.

Please do Weak Fantasy at Tampere. Great song and shows some Kai skills.

Kai is like on vacation in Nightwish compared to Wintersun. In Wintersun he was creating drum parts and that's why they're so great, while in NW everything was ready and he said he had to follow them so that the fans could hear the songs the same as before

If You want to hear more of the drummer: Kai Hahto performing Wintersun - Sons Of Winter And Stars (Drum Playthrough)

you need to hit the drum cam video of Kai doing Shudder Before The Beautiful... :)

The groove in the beginning is exactly as intended, with a lot of changing meters in it! (and on a click track and synchronised with an orchestral backing tape) So there is NO possibility of beeing "not locked in" (that would have caused a giant mess). It is just that the composer WROTE the music like this.

I'm pretty sure the audio is just from the mic on the camera. I'm pretty sure the delay being heard is a slap back echo from the sound bouncing back from the back of the venue.

Finland isn't that far away from Texas. Music brings people together: "Billy Gibbons of ZZ Top, Aleksanterinkatu, Helsinki, Finland". In Tampere, Finland: "Erja Lyytinen with Heikki Silvennoinen and The Blue Wednesday Allstars - Can't Be Satisfied".

Everything Kai and Nightwish plays is intentional. You should have your drummer friends check out the live performance of "Devil and the deep dark Ocean" live from Buenos Aires. A real drum song with some incredible double base and fills. This song is a walk in the park for Kai! As a musician you hope the sound guy is your best friend.

It's not the in-ears, but either the drum mics or a dedicated mic, possibly associated with the video device recording this. Nightwish plays with a clicktrack, and you would hear that on in-ears.

The beginning was made by Jukka and Kai just keep the tradition.

Kai is called the Human Methronome 😁

You hear Floor's voice coming through.

I'm curious what he would say about Jukka, slaying the drums and being the showman he was... 😁

That beat in start is very much intentional. Even when guitar's come it has same thing going but in different time signature. Then comes the 4/4 beat when Floor starts to sing. Also you should check Kai Hahto drum cam on Winter Sun. Any of those 3 songs they also have Live rehearsal videos too. In one song Kai hits blast beats about 5minutes from that 14min song. Hahah

Tribal (Hellfest), Devil and the Deep Dark Ocean (Buenos Aires), Weak Fantasy (Tampere) and Yours Is An Empty Hope (Wembley) would be great for him to check out. The actual videos. Let him get a real taste of Nightwish and Kai. or

He's not rushing anything off beat, he's The human metronome and machin gun. It just is like that. If you're not into progressive music, I think you could firstly listen to some. E.g Pink Floyd, Kingston Wall, Opeth, Jinjer. It's not an accident but the total mastery of music. Kai also has his background on jazz, so these not all 4/4's are his mastery and on his appetite.

Vocals is from the front, only drums trough the mics

One of my favourite drum clinic vids from Kai Hahto (& this time with Jaska Raatikainen too from Children of Bodom) : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gM5ydNaTudqshGg.html

As an aside, Kai could be doing full-on back flips at his kit, and he'd be hard pressed to distract from Floor. Once she has an audience's attention, ya'll gotta WORK to get the eyes off her lol But yeah, it's not the drummer's job to put on a visual show. I'd rather they tickle my ears.

I think you should try the first drummer Juka Nevelainen. I don't now much about drums, but Kai was compared with machine and Juka with a predator. So there is a song called scaretale - live performance and a fan video. And "High hope"- I know you reacted to it, but it would be interesting to hear a drummer, because Juka is obvioxusly not feeling well, however ...As to Kai - there is a song "Weak fantasy" - that drum intro from the concert in tampa!

He's a technical drummer

Also i hate to say it, but your drummer review guest needs to brush up on Odd meter time signatures..... He seemed confused, and suggested that Kai was "jumping in early" on beats when thats far from the case. The music was scored this way, masterfully.

A better idea of his skills and performances and videos are the warmingup videos from Kai. As a drummer I think he's one of the best drummers. Kai Hahto blow you away.

Would love to hear what he thinks listening to the whole song

They all use click tracts

Kia had to learn Jukka's work for the older stuff this is mimicking him You should show him an old one with Jukka

He is playing a 12/8 and 8/8 in the beginning part

You should try to find it with juka on drums

Should check out Aryeon

Kai did another drumcam for weak fantasy, which is a great song.

Poor guy! Teasing him with only drums and not letting him experience the entire song - look forward to next time when he gets to see the whole thing.

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Here's a drum clinic by Kai Hajto kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qsiSa9Bk3LS8kqc.html

here ya go: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Zp6Pg8emuLGyh4k.html :)

Kai is the G. O. A. T. I think it's time You look at "The Greatest Show On Earth". I can garuantee that it will be fastest 21 minutes ever. Kai is really working his ass off in that, I can't even say song, sonic experience. I love Your Nightwish reactions but this is something different. Please react to this piece of art. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/apuSpd11r7G-Y6M.html

Looking for drumvideos?? Well JUNNA is a absolute must. Check that girl out.

Great song, but this just barely touches on this guys total vocabulary. Agree with the below...Sons of Winter and Stars..

kai is a 6 replacing a 9.5. so do not care