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What Else Killed Hair Metal?

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In Ep. 7 of "50 Years of Heavy Metal," Joe DiVita explores the idea there was more that killed #HairMetal than just #Grunge with help from #DuffMcKagan of #GunsNRoses, #TomKeifer of #Cinderella, #MikaelAkerfeldt of #Opeth + more.
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@TailgunnerATC
@TailgunnerATC 4 жыл бұрын
I always said the sound grunge in the 90s was like waking up the next day with the hang over from the partying in the 80s.
@mmmodafoca
@mmmodafoca Жыл бұрын
absolutely, it was a sobering experience where you realize oh damn all this self medicating with alcohol is doing more harm than good.
@azeiras
@azeiras Жыл бұрын
When you get sobber the day after the party then you realize that euphoria and happiness that happened last night were just totally fake and absurd and you have to face reality again...
@AdvancedLiving
@AdvancedLiving 4 жыл бұрын
Calling it “hair metal” probably helped too...
@LuchaLibertaria
@LuchaLibertaria 4 жыл бұрын
Actually There's no music as "hair metal", that music was known as glam metal or Pop metal in the 80s. Not surprised to see Loudwires hipster douchebags regurgiating "nirvana killed hair metal" cliches tho.
@billbright100
@billbright100 4 жыл бұрын
I loathe the term hair metal. You'd think rock and roll bands looked like a bunch of marine recruits before the 80s.
@jor-el1298
@jor-el1298 4 жыл бұрын
Fuck your "hair metal". It's glam. Also, nobody killed metal. People who loved metal continued to love metal, great albums continued to be launched and great bands continued to appear. Bands like Priest, Maiden, Metallica and so on still play to this day in front of full arenas. Whatever happened to grunge I wonder...
@red_rogue73
@red_rogue73 4 жыл бұрын
It was called glam or sometimes glam rock. Nobody associated it with metal, period.
@johnrogan9729
@johnrogan9729 4 жыл бұрын
Jor-El you said it bro! Agree 1000%.
@denissealmela959
@denissealmela959 4 жыл бұрын
why do everybody act like they didn't enjoy hair metal.
@LuchaLibertaria
@LuchaLibertaria 4 жыл бұрын
It was still not ok for hipster douchebags to say they like glam metal. Until a few years ago they were also talking shit about prog Rock and they were saying how 1977 is the year zero for music but after the vinyl boom and resurgence of prog Rock, they started to say how they always liked Prog Rock.
@billbright100
@billbright100 4 жыл бұрын
Unless you don't like 80s metal don't call it "hair" metal. Hard rock performers typically had long hair long before the 80s.
@nemesiszer0708
@nemesiszer0708 4 жыл бұрын
Alexa Almela It’s cheap and mostly worthless
@LuchaLibertaria
@LuchaLibertaria 4 жыл бұрын
@@nemesiszer0708 hey moron grunge literally means cheap and worthless.
@nemesiszer0708
@nemesiszer0708 4 жыл бұрын
@@LuchaLibertaria Ok
@adityamukhopadhyay6712
@adityamukhopadhyay6712 4 жыл бұрын
Heroin and cocaine killed hair metal
@sidthejovian5105
@sidthejovian5105 4 жыл бұрын
Nooo 😥😓
@loganscheivert8778
@loganscheivert8778 4 жыл бұрын
I think heroin killed grunge more so than hair metal but cocaine definitely
@Janine.Najarian
@Janine.Najarian 4 жыл бұрын
And grunge
@hinjurock
@hinjurock 4 жыл бұрын
And pretentious poser guys dressed like female porn stars playing lame shitty cheesy songs with weak whiny vocals, i.e. Poison, Warrant, White Lion, et al.
@mattmidnight.666
@mattmidnight.666 4 жыл бұрын
@@hinjurock You're an ignorant
@CC-sj8hd
@CC-sj8hd 4 жыл бұрын
Once Pantera made the change, there was never going back.
@LuchaLibertaria
@LuchaLibertaria 4 жыл бұрын
In 1993, American Record labels dropped ALL Classic Hard Rock and Metal bands from their roster. Atlantic Records dropped Overkill, Testament, Savatage, Manowar etc from the label, not just the "hair bands" . At the time the Narrative was "Grunge killed Metal". Pantera was the only remaining mainstream metal act by the mid 90s and they and their fans were treated as trailerpark trash by the Mainstream Media. Alternative bands were the smart politically correct college Kids, and Metal fans were sexist, obnoxious trailerpark trash. They continued with this Narrative until the Metal/Classic Rock resurgence in the mid 00s.(In early 00s Mtv was still refusing to play Iron Maiden videos) Dont let Loudwires hipster douchebags manipulate people.
@red_rogue73
@red_rogue73 4 жыл бұрын
@Default User They weren't alone in that - there was the early 90s Grind/Death wave - Bolt Thrower, Morbid Angel, Deicide, Nocturnus, Napalm Death, Carcsss, Entombed, etc. The Scandinavian Death/Black bands, Emperor, Mayhem, Immortal, Dismember, Amorphis, etc. In the US there were Machine Head, Biohazard, Hatebreed, Type O Negative, etc. Metal never even "died" in the 90s, & is still with us in 2020, to bang heads to in the COVID era. Great bands emerging all the time. We'll only get more excellent studio albums, with all the social isolating, watch.
@AtlasCompleXtheProd
@AtlasCompleXtheProd 4 жыл бұрын
@@LuchaLibertaria early 2000s, don't forget System of a Down!
@naughtygawd3269
@naughtygawd3269 4 жыл бұрын
"Metal fans were sexist, obnoxious trailerpark trash" That statement is kind of true
@LuchaLibertaria
@LuchaLibertaria 4 жыл бұрын
@@naughtygawd3269 There are certainly quite a few people that fit into that stereotype but most of the metal fans are quite intelligent people who are well read in history, mythology, science fiction etc.
@brickspace8617
@brickspace8617 4 жыл бұрын
Hair Metal ended because of the ridiculous lifestyles they lived. Don't get me wrong, I like hair metal but if they didn't do all that controversial stuff in their lives people wouldn't have deserted Hair Metal.
@thebestgeorge5483
@thebestgeorge5483 4 жыл бұрын
Hair Metal bands kill myself copy The sound Of Def Leppard & Van Halen.
@Wheelio
@Wheelio 4 жыл бұрын
This is definitely part of it. By the beginning of the 90's so many hair metal musicians were destroyed mentally and physically. That "party 24/7" mentality catches up with you fast.
@akarshshekhar5233
@akarshshekhar5233 4 жыл бұрын
If anything, it's more of the grunge characters who died because of drugs.
@azim85
@azim85 4 жыл бұрын
Gnr and mötley ruled but are just as drug induced as each other, that's the problem I think
@LuchaLibertaria
@LuchaLibertaria 4 жыл бұрын
Every music genre gets popular and then loses its popularity as music tastes change. By 1990 glam metal was already losing popularity, this is natural. Loudwires hipster douchebags put these clickbait titles to Sensational ize it.
@bodenlosedosenhose1590
@bodenlosedosenhose1590 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't screw Hair Metal. Bret Hart screwed Hair Metal.
@ldlrdrllrr
@ldlrdrllrr 4 жыл бұрын
And he can look in the mirra....
@GuitarnoobJulian
@GuitarnoobJulian 4 жыл бұрын
ARE U SURE ABOUT THAT?
@kiprandom7208
@kiprandom7208 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. Bret had some of the best ring music
@maxmustardman298
@maxmustardman298 3 жыл бұрын
Too bad that name is already taken, would love to name my kid brett hart
@rodneywoodcock8235
@rodneywoodcock8235 4 жыл бұрын
"Hair Metal" wasn't even a term that we used back then. That genre of music was either called "Glam Metal" or just lumped in generically with "Heavy Metal". Back then, my friends and I usually referred to the bands as "Glam bands". It is a complete myth that Grunge "killed" Glam Metal. The truth is that the genre was already waning by the time Nirvana and Pearl Jam hit, and even then it didn't just automatically die, but it was on life support and people just lost interest in hearing basically the same formulated three songs being put out by every band in the scene. Also, there was a lot of tripe like "Trixter", which was basically the "New Kids on The Block" with guitars. It just became formulated, predictable, corporate, bloated, pompous, egotistical and pretty boring. Like all scenes, Glam Metal just ran its course, and for what it's worth it had a good long run. By that time, a lot of us had already moved on to stuff like like Faith No More, Jane's Addiction, Red Hot Chili Peppers, even renewed interest in bands like the Ramones and the Misfits. Nirvana, Pearl Jam, et al was just the next logical progression from the transitional bands we were already listening to.
@mikepineda4713
@mikepineda4713 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah you're right there's a lot of reasons that killed glam metal grunge just was a Shotgun hit on a junky and drunk bodie on the decade ground scene
@67lilbear
@67lilbear 4 жыл бұрын
Actually the music industry killed the hair bands they way they signed as many bands they could that fit the image and thought they could make a few bucks on. You take two bands like Cinderella and Britny Foxx...you could mix up the members and not know that you changed them - same wardrobe, same teased aqua-netted hair etc. The same thing was happening to grunge until Kurt Cobain blew his brains out and rock music was left with various alternative music - industrial, nu-metal, etc.
@Gregbaltzer
@Gregbaltzer 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly most music only has a shelf life of around 10 years. Disco had it's time, then punk had it's time, then Hair metal had it's time, Thrash metal was pretty much dead by 1992 and people were showing interest in Death/Black metal, Alt Metal, or not even metal at all. I grew up on Thrash in the 80's and was a full on thrasher/hardcore punk. I started out on Priest, Dio, Maiden but that stuff just got too soft and I wanted heavier. By the 90's thrash was really stale. I was more into Death Metal, Hardcore, Industrial metal, Doom metal, all kinds of heavy stuff..just not thrash(except Slayer). Then Grunge died out, then Nu metal died out, Thrash came back. Point is everything has a shelf life. Music needs to remain fresh and vital to stay around.
@Dehumanizer3000
@Dehumanizer3000 4 жыл бұрын
yet def leppard with Adrenalize destroyed grunge and Nirvana nevermind, also hair metal was already changing, by 1989 or late 80s in general, the scene was moving to a 70s blues hard rock sound, with bands like badlands, skid row and Guns 'n' roses and in Europe, 80s metal never went away, Europe in the 90s was having its 80s, all hail Power Metal!
4 жыл бұрын
Right on dude. I wrote a long comment about it before I got to your take on it. It`s weird how a channel like Loudwire does this. I know they are the tabloid metal show but come on.. How can you keep on spreading this myth in 2020?? I was 18 in 1987 when Guns n Roses released Apetite and I jumped from a glam metal band to start a band just like Guns. The way I see it Guns almost killed off the hair metal scene by themselves. And by 1991, when Nirvana released Nevermind, the hair metal scene was already dead. And.. how can any music journalist say that grunge bands like Nirvana was influenced by Aerosmith and Led Zeppelin??? LOL that`s just crazy talk.
@sherrigaskin5656
@sherrigaskin5656 3 жыл бұрын
To be a teen in the 80s was the greatest. Graduated in 87 and started playing guitar in 85 as a result of seeing a garage band kick the shit out of Over The Mountain by Ozzy. 2 weeks later I had my first guitar, a Charvel model 2, and 30 plus yrs later, I still love tons of distortion, reverb, and delay. Steve
@Squishyring
@Squishyring 2 жыл бұрын
You were lucky!!
@LilMissSmartyPants.922
@LilMissSmartyPants.922 2 жыл бұрын
hair metal sucks
@FBI-lu3wf
@FBI-lu3wf 2 жыл бұрын
@@LilMissSmartyPants.922 nah rap sucks
@firebirdlover4460
@firebirdlover4460 Жыл бұрын
This video hits the nail on the head. The record industry couldn't wait to dump these bands and the grunge thing provided that opportunity. Those grunge bands were real cheap to promote and didn't have any of the controversy. But, only a few of them were actually worth listening to. The music industry has never appreciated any form of heavy metal from day one. Yet, it just keeps rearing it's ugly head and flashing its black toothed grin right back at them. Ozzfest is what proved to the world that heavy metal didn't die, despite every effort by the industry to kill it.
@maxkaffeine4225
@maxkaffeine4225 Жыл бұрын
Spot on! Record companies pushing ballads killed it. You can't wear highheels, lipstick and makeup and cry about how some chic broke your heart. AC/DC didn't have any ballads. Def Leppard, however, was able to repeatedly pull it off.
@ChickenJoe-tq6xd
@ChickenJoe-tq6xd 10 ай бұрын
Pantera is partially responsible with saving metal in the 90s, it would be a lot more grim today if they didn’t save it
@privatecitizenguy2640
@privatecitizenguy2640 4 жыл бұрын
If it was grunge, then grunge killed itself.
@StarSail63
@StarSail63 4 жыл бұрын
Private Citizen Guy grunge didn’t directly end it but when Kurt died grunge died.
@thebestgeorge5483
@thebestgeorge5483 4 жыл бұрын
In My opinión Nu Metal & Happy Punk kill Grunge
@hughmunro4577
@hughmunro4577 4 жыл бұрын
thanks all those traaaash grunge bands and albums after 1994 amirite
@LuchaLibertaria
@LuchaLibertaria 4 жыл бұрын
You guys are talking about morons who jumped on to every bandwagon MTV spoonfed to them. Hard Rock/Metal audience was listening to Helloween, King Diamond, Iron Maiden, Iced Earth, Blind Guardian, Death, Moonspell etc in the 90s and nobody gave a fuck about Blink 182 or what was on MTV.
@Nictric1
@Nictric1 4 жыл бұрын
@@hughmunro4577 some pretty good albums came out in '94 like Vitalogy, Superunknown, Jar of Flies, and In Utero
@tomasagustinveravicentin7789
@tomasagustinveravicentin7789 4 жыл бұрын
And Grunge died even faster than Hair Metal (glam in general)
@nolanrandall4242
@nolanrandall4242 3 жыл бұрын
After Grunge it was Post-Grunge. It's not like there's a Post-Hair Metal.
@somethingsomething9008
@somethingsomething9008 3 жыл бұрын
Not exactly elements of grunge bleeded into nu metal and post grunge if you listen to most popular rock (well when rock was popular) you can tell grunge happened but you cant do that with any hair metal band
@jpbart1390
@jpbart1390 2 жыл бұрын
@@nolanrandall4242 post grunge a.k.a. butt rock. (i only learned the term last year)
@hardnewstakenharder
@hardnewstakenharder Ай бұрын
Grunge bleeded into Korn, Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, Staind, Zao, etc. Hair metal literally died overnight. And I hate that it did.
@XxSEETH3RxX
@XxSEETH3RxX 4 жыл бұрын
Over-saturation and usually a certain genre only last about 10 years. Had nothing to do with Grunge. Most Metal was dead before Grunge. What also helped kill it was MTV changed it's format to mostly Hip Hop/Rap as well. Honestly that did it more than any other music.
@hinjurock
@hinjurock 4 жыл бұрын
"Hair metal" (or to be accurate "glam metal") is a sub-genre, not a genre.
@somethingsomething9008
@somethingsomething9008 3 жыл бұрын
Glam metal is not even metal calling it a "subgenre" is weird
@Mario_N64
@Mario_N64 2 жыл бұрын
MTV support was key. Once they withdrew it, things went south.
@thevfxmancolorizationvfxex4051
@thevfxmancolorizationvfxex4051 4 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, there are a number of factors that killed Hair Metal 1. Guns N' Roses' Appetite For Destruction album. While they did have some Hair trademarks when it came to fashion, their music was much more raw and organic. In a Hair Metal song, every instrument (especially the drums) sounded artificial, in a GNR song, they sounded more realistic. 2. The Thrash Metal scene. Bands like Slayer, Anthrax, Megadeth, and Metallica provided some escapism from mainstream Rock 3. Everybody deluding themselves into thinking that Kurt Cobain was a prophet or genius of some sorts
@TH3F4LC0Nx
@TH3F4LC0Nx 4 жыл бұрын
I will give you a like for point #3 alone. Finally! Someone with some sense! Like the dude who didn't even graduate high school and never worked a day in his life was really someone to follow like a religious leader!
@KikoJonesUSA
@KikoJonesUSA 4 жыл бұрын
#1 is gold. #2 I won't debate. #3 is erroneous. 1. So many fans of the heavy rock persuasion found Winger/Warrant/Poison, etc to be lame. And while they respected Metallica, Slayer, Anthrax, etc. it was too heavy for them. Along comes GnR sounding like prime Aerosmith when those guys were wimping out and BOOM! Right place, right time, right tunes. 3. Millions of people loved the dude's tunes and a lot of disaffected youth identified with him. But NO ONE thought of Cobain as "a prophet or genius"; that was something mostly espoused by Nirvana/Seattle/alt-rock haters who resented that the likes of Warrant had been supplanted by Alice in Chains. Cheers.
@kingzuna8007
@kingzuna8007 4 жыл бұрын
TH3 F4LC0N Kurt was just a more relatable person to teenagers and he still is, he was a down to earth laid back person who was an outcast in highschool and he wasn’t popular, he was creative though and he loved drawing and making art which is the same story for a lot of teenagers now including me😂. Not every teenager relates to banging 1,000 girls per day, some of us spend most of our time at home. I appreciate hair metal but Kurt is always going to be someone who’s relatable to a pretty large majority of teenagers because he didn’t ask to be famous, it kinda just happened. All he wanted was money to be able to survive and live comfortably but he ended up getting a bunch of hate just because his band just happened to be the band that ended a generation of sex influenced and party influenced music. That’s not his fault, I’m sure he was just as surprised by it as everyone else was.
@thevfxmancolorizationvfxex4051
@thevfxmancolorizationvfxex4051 4 жыл бұрын
@@KikoJonesUSA Here is my opinion on things. I think that Kurt Cobain is a very fascinating person, but he is not exactly a prophet in the same way as John Lennon or Sly Stone was. And anyway, if you think I like Hair Metal, I don't. I don't like partying, or music with cheesy lyrics and artificial drumming sounds. And I don't like GNR that much either, although I do enjoy listening to Appetite for Destruction.
@LuchaLibertaria
@LuchaLibertaria 4 жыл бұрын
1- Nobody called it "hair metal" in the 80s, it was glam metal. GnR started out as a glam band but by the end of the 80s moved towards a more traditional Hard Rock sound and image, a lot of glam bands followed their direction. By 1990 glam was already on its way out. 2- Poison and Warrant were not the only bands, they were Mtv driven Pop metal acts, most of the rockers and headbangers didnt give a shit in the first place. 3- I agree. MTV just replaced Poison with Nirvana and u Got these douchebags saying nirvana killed metal, bitch we didnt give a fuck about nirvana, we were busy rocking out to Judas Priest and Iron Maiden.
@Frodojack
@Frodojack 4 жыл бұрын
I graduated high school in 1981 and the top songs in my senior year were from AC/DC and Pink Floyd. It went from the Jimmy Carter era to the Reagan era. L.A. and then Huntington Beach developed a great punk scene. Real metal bands like Black Sabbath, Judas Priest and Iron Maiden were popular throughout the decade. Glam metal as it was known didn't develop overnight. KISS helped create it. KISS went after girls and had a huge ballad with the song "Beth." Cheap Trick and Aerosmith could also be counted as ancestors of 80s glam metal. Motley Crue came out as a dark heavy metal band before it went hair metal. Then bands like Poison and Cinderella came out with girl's make up and huge hits. Other bands started imitating them. Def Leppard, which was a NWOBHM band, was one of the bands that changed their sound to increase popularity. On the other side of glam metal, there were some great guitar bands, many influenced by Van Halen. Dokken, Stryper, Mr. Big, Ratt and Winger featured top notch guitar players and their songs can still be listened to today. On the harder side of metal there was Ozzy, the Scorpions and thrash bands Metallica, Slayer, Megadeth and Anthrax. In Southern California we used to listen to them on KMET and then KNAC. Then came Guns N Roses with a grittier hair metal that was proficient, listenable, and a rejection of the effeminate hair bands. A lot of guys turned away from the Poisons and Cinderellas. I couldn't stand listening to them myself and always liked the harder bands more. Grunge came out, but Metallica and the other thrash bands were as popular as ever. Pantera pretended its old catalog of hair metal didn't exist, although it was a lot harder and more serious than the effeminate glam bands, and went from sounding like Judas Priest to groove metal. Meanwhile, KMET became The Wave and KNAC became a Mexican station. The big music corporations started pushing hip hop and ditched a lot of the hair bands except for a handful. Van Halen, Def Leppard, and Bon Jovi survived. Metallica, Megadeth and Slayer kept putting out top notch thrash, but Anthrax decided to become a grunge band. Meanwhile, industrial and death metal started growing in popularity. It wasn't grunge that killed hair metal. Grunge was an antidote. Hair metal was unserious, effeminate, and nauseating sex fantasy music. Grunge was serious and realistic, and its music hearkened back to Sabbath and Zeppelin. It was just better.
@LuchaLibertaria
@LuchaLibertaria 4 жыл бұрын
Agree with You, except: Rock n Roll was always unserious, always un-pc right from its start in the late 40s. Rock n Roll meant having sex in African American slang. So, 80s Hard Rock and Glam bands were not doing smth different. Also Nirvana(and most of its copycats) lyrics were absolute garbage. Its known that Kurt Cobain were singing 'Load up your drugs and kill your friends' at some concerts, how is this shit any meaningful? 90s "i wanna Die everyday" or self-pitying "i hate my parents" lyrics were cringy at Best.
@andrewmcintosh2703
@andrewmcintosh2703 Жыл бұрын
​@@LuchaLibertariaIf cringy lyrics bother you, then why would you defend Glam Metal? You don't get more cringe than that.
@LuchaLibertaria
@LuchaLibertaria Жыл бұрын
@@andrewmcintosh2703 Glam Metal lyrics were often goofy; but it wasnt as bad as self-pitying victimhood culture that was promoted by the Grunge scene.
@HeavyMetalNerd
@HeavyMetalNerd 4 жыл бұрын
Hair Metal killed itself. The genre at some point was just flooded with 3rd rate copies of big names like Mötley Crüe, Def Leppard, Bon Jovi or Poison.🤔
@thebestgeorge5483
@thebestgeorge5483 4 жыл бұрын
Def Leppard are not Glam Metal they Hard Rock
@luvittodeath7031
@luvittodeath7031 4 жыл бұрын
The Best George true but they were still under Hair Metal.
@thebestgeorge5483
@thebestgeorge5483 4 жыл бұрын
@@luvittodeath7031 Def Leppard is from NWOBHM In first 2 álbums And Hair bands are From California. Def Leppard In My opinión is More Like Journey, Foreigner, Survivor.
@LuchaLibertaria
@LuchaLibertaria 4 жыл бұрын
None of these bands were hair metal bcs such a genre doesn't exist, Def Leppard was Heavy Metal on the first two albums, then became Pop metal.
@joshalan5125
@joshalan5125 4 жыл бұрын
Hysteria was still pure garbage. I cant think of a better example of "pop metal" or selling out than that album.
@ohhellno8439
@ohhellno8439 4 жыл бұрын
I will always love hair metal
@LeoMessiGoat1986
@LeoMessiGoat1986 4 жыл бұрын
Oh hell no Same here. For me, there were way more awesome hair metal bands than there were grunge bands. Skid Row, Dokken, Crüe, Whitesnake, Def Leppard, Ratt, Poison, Warrant, Twisted Sister, Quiet Riot, Cinderella, Wasp, etc were insane in their prime. And Van Halen circa 1980 were unbeatable 🤘
@GustavoSusFring
@GustavoSusFring 4 жыл бұрын
@@LeoMessiGoat1986 You should check out Black 'n Blue's first album if you haven't heard it. Same for War Babies
@user-ei9ns9hq6b
@user-ei9ns9hq6b 4 жыл бұрын
OK boomer
@LeoMessiGoat1986
@LeoMessiGoat1986 4 жыл бұрын
Nathan B I’ve heard of Black n’ Blue but not War Babies. Will check em out, cheers!
@LeoMessiGoat1986
@LeoMessiGoat1986 4 жыл бұрын
Danny Dircio Yeah that was a sad case but Uncle Tom’s Cabin is my fav Warrant song by far!
@mistermackey638
@mistermackey638 4 жыл бұрын
Appetite for Destruction delivered the first blow to glam metal, the Black Album knee-capped it, Nevermind shot it in the head, and then Ten danced on its grave.
@rocket4189
@rocket4189 4 жыл бұрын
Gnr is is hair metal as their vocals are identical to every hair metal band's. The black album was Metallica about to sellout and become grunge. Nevermind was wild and free the way rock should be. They're unique. Pearl Jam sucks. They just ripped off Creed and bands like that. Cookie cutter crap.
@mistermackey638
@mistermackey638 4 жыл бұрын
@@rocket4189 Get off my comment you goddamn troll. Go spam someone else.
@danielolsen1566
@danielolsen1566 3 жыл бұрын
@@rocket4189 what
@atullalwani1960
@atullalwani1960 2 жыл бұрын
@@rocket4189 creed came out a decade after pearl jam
@screamrad218
@screamrad218 Жыл бұрын
@@rocket4189 GNR was glam metal? WTF! Those guys hated what Rock music was becoming with all the glam metal acts.
@musicman1977
@musicman1977 4 жыл бұрын
The LA Scene looked badass in the 80s, Hollywood sunset strip to be specific. My pop wasn’t a part of the scene cus he was a rockabilly/50s/Stray Cats dude however he did party up there several times. He said it was fun and the girls back then with the chacha hair we’re gorgeous. His buddies in the greaser rock n roll crew also appreciated bands like Mötley Crüe, Ratt and Poison. It was party music, who doesn’t like to have a. Good time. I don’t care what anybody says, it has its fans and you’re gonna have to deal with it. They have great music too just go look for it! I find it ironic how people always shoot down hair metal because of the image, but yet they listen and praise DAVID BOWIE, ELTON JOHN, FREDDIE MERCURY AND MARC BOWLEN.??? Hair metal came from those guys!
@luvittodeath7031
@luvittodeath7031 4 жыл бұрын
MusicMan197 ! Yup, those guys you listed who weren’t shot down are legends. So is hair metal bands
@eljefemaximo5420
@eljefemaximo5420 Жыл бұрын
It was a complete joke by 1989 1990. I remember these lousy bands that played the strip at that time. Cheetah, Juliet, Fire Fire, and the worst of the worst Pretty Boy Floyd.
@zackzallie8735
@zackzallie8735 11 ай бұрын
Its not the music itself that was shoot down, but there are generic glam bands around that time like Poison and Bon Jovi let people believe the venre had died out. It was until Guns N Roses revived the rock n roll lifestyle into the danger zone.
@TheBlackQueen
@TheBlackQueen 4 жыл бұрын
Just watch the VH1 mini-series "Heavy; The Story Of Metal". Episode 3; Looks That Kill will explain it perfectly.
@beersnarkunbleached5660
@beersnarkunbleached5660 4 жыл бұрын
It sucks because you can't really watch the entire series anymore online. I looked for hours trying to find an english version of the first episode, as they were all in either russian portuguese or spanish
@TheBlackQueen
@TheBlackQueen 4 жыл бұрын
@@beersnarkunbleached5660 If you're interested, I have all four episodes in one long video on Google Drive if you want a link.
@beersnarkunbleached5660
@beersnarkunbleached5660 4 жыл бұрын
The Black Queen hell yeah I'm interested!
@TheBlackQueen
@TheBlackQueen 4 жыл бұрын
@@beersnarkunbleached5660 I went ahead and uploaded it to my Odnoklassniki channel. It's a Russian website that has almost no Copyright security. I'm not Russian but I was able to make an account. Here's the video link. I hope it works; ok.ru/video/1564702608005
@reubenseldo1048
@reubenseldo1048 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, those eyes, they pierce into my soul.
@hinjurock
@hinjurock 4 жыл бұрын
Who's eyes?
@danielolsen1566
@danielolsen1566 3 жыл бұрын
@@hinjurock your mom's
@pheonix5597
@pheonix5597 4 жыл бұрын
Concerning the point made at 8:07, ahhhhhhhhh what about Warlock, Vixen, and The Runaways?
@morisco56
@morisco56 4 жыл бұрын
Nice now do what 'killed' rock in the 2000's
@1mlb704
@1mlb704 4 жыл бұрын
Pro Tools
4 жыл бұрын
There is no doubt Pro Tools and the digital revolution inside studios over-perfected rock and made it cold, but it`s a bit more to it than just blaming the nerdy sound engineers for it. Rock isn`t really DEAD but it had to lose it`s grip at some point. The 90s were the decade that rock bands from the 80s got lost and it got narrowed down to some few alternative rock bands and some new genres like industry metal and electronica bands like Prodigy. Electronica stole A LOT of headbangers back in the early 90s. So rock, from having owned the radio stations for about 35 years, the alternative rock scene got too difficult and experimental for the mainstream audience. Even songs like Black Hole Sun, even tho it is a commercial hit song, was a strange radio hit song but had a killer chorus that sold it. But I remember even then I thought it was strange it got so big because it`s very dark and complicated song. Even 4th of July got big, and that`s almost an impossible song for the mainstream listeners. I believe it was a combination of perfecting the bands in studio, and the DJs who held on to the grunge and alternative rock bands for too long. When Alanis Morissette came along with her mainstream alternative music on 1995s Jagged Little Pil, alternative rock was already dying and classic rock or rock and roll got dragged down with it in the late 90s as so many older rock musicians didn`t know how to make alternative rock, grunge or make up a new genre. So we didn`t get the comeback bands like we had in the 80s. Jane`s Addiction came along in early 00s but then it was already too late.
@hinjurock
@hinjurock 4 жыл бұрын
Rap/hip-hop. But mainly the fact that rock completely lost it's edge and sense of danger and rebellion and became lame, conservative and PC.
@soulcrusher807
@soulcrusher807 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing. Only old people think that.
@PianoMan-hx3ev
@PianoMan-hx3ev 3 жыл бұрын
How about, What Killed Music in Total?
@TheBoomBoxGuru
@TheBoomBoxGuru 4 жыл бұрын
What killed Hair Metal was that Penelope Spheeris documentary. Now your next video should be what killed grunge, seeing as it'd life span was only half of Glam Metal's.
@thedanksavatron7782
@thedanksavatron7782 4 жыл бұрын
That documentary definitely was the nail in the coffin! I always hated the director for that!
@TH3F4LC0Nx
@TH3F4LC0Nx 4 жыл бұрын
That first documentary she made about the punk scene is still some classic shit, tho.
@alexandergilles8583
@alexandergilles8583 4 жыл бұрын
Mr. Nelson89 grunge killed themselves
4 жыл бұрын
Grunge was just a hybrid of post punk, alternative rock, punk and metal and it didn`t really have a chance to survive for long. That`s why bands like Pearl Jam got big too because they had the pop sound to it that the mainstream listeners needs. Nirvana had the one album, Nevermind, that even Kurt wasn`t very happy about even tho it made him into a multi millionaire. He always thought it to be too commercialized, and it was.. So the grunge scene, as the REAL grunge scene was waaay too experimental to survive for longer than it did. Your "ordinary Joe" listening to the radio at work does`nt want to get challenged when listening to music and to challenge the listeners is what grunge was all about. That`s why bands like Pearl Jam got thrown into the grunge genre even tho they were never a grunge band. The industry had to keep the grunge scene alive so they labelled not grunge bands as grunge, because they knew Kurt was going back to the style they played before Nevermind. And Bleach was not a commercial hit. Kurt didn`t give a flying f* and good on him, but it had to be hell going up on stage, watching buffed chads in their football team shirts shouting for Teen Spirit night after night. He probably wanted success but he was maybe too naive to what he was getting himself into. Most people don`t know anything about music and a lot just throw themselves on the wagons. I remember when Nevermind hit, so many guys who was sport fans and never liked anything else but pop music on Top 10 radio suddenly became "depressed" and started wearing grunge clothes LOL. So I would say the mainstream audience killed grunge with good help from it`s own self destructive core.
@LuchaLibertaria
@LuchaLibertaria 4 жыл бұрын
That documentary didnt have an effect on bands. Hard Rock continued to be popular until 1992 in the US.
@jackvylares3075
@jackvylares3075 4 жыл бұрын
Fortunately Duff stayed alive 🙏🙏🤘🔥
@nikolaprango2552
@nikolaprango2552 4 жыл бұрын
The "Hair Metal" era, roughly '83 to '92 or so, represents the last time Heavy Metal was truly relevant. It represents the last time rock was culturally 'dangerous' and also fun as a genre - when rockstars still roamed the Earth.
@LuchaLibertaria
@LuchaLibertaria 4 жыл бұрын
That was the Hard Rock/Heavy Metal era,that era ended not bcs of grunge, greediness of American Music Industry killed it. In 1993 Atlantic Records dropped all the metal/Hard Rock acts inc. Overkill, Testament, Manowar, Savatage from its catalogue, none of these bands were "hair metal", Record Companies figured it out they can make more money with Hip Hop and Techno so they pulled the plug on Heavy Rock acts. Same thing didnt happen in Europe and South America where metal and Hard Rock continued to be popular throughout the 90s.
@nemesiszer0708
@nemesiszer0708 4 жыл бұрын
nikola prango Hair Metal died the moment Nevermind was released.
@Zero_Ninety
@Zero_Ninety 4 жыл бұрын
" It represents the last time rock was culturally 'dangerous'" Lol, hair metal bands were all mainstream corporate sellouts. There was nothing dangerous about those assholes.
@LuchaLibertaria
@LuchaLibertaria 4 жыл бұрын
@@Zero_Ninety It was Motley Crue and Twisted Sister that made into PMRC's filthy 15 list, not Nirvana and weezer.
@heavymetalrules436
@heavymetalrules436 4 жыл бұрын
@@LuchaLibertaria what kind of name is Weezer???? Sounds like a Chainsmoker on meth and whatever
@luvittodeath7031
@luvittodeath7031 4 жыл бұрын
Stones surviving the 60s and going into 70s wasn’t all, dude they outlived about every other band. They’ve always been there as long since the Beatles “changed” rock and outlived them.
@Mario_N64
@Mario_N64 2 жыл бұрын
They still had top 10 hits in the 90s. That's insane.
@Jamestele1
@Jamestele1 3 жыл бұрын
I know the host is young, but Guns n Roses was not really part of the Glam band scene-- They were what helped kill glam
@LuchaLibertaria
@LuchaLibertaria Жыл бұрын
They were totally part of the Los Angeles Glam scene & were influenced by Hanoi Rocks. Towards the late 80s, they started to evolve into a more traditional Hard Rock band
@SaintMartins
@SaintMartins 4 жыл бұрын
1. MTV (+ other music video channels) - stopped playing Glam Rock music videos. 2. Rolling Stone (+ other magazines) - stop covering Glam bands. 3. Aside from Alternative Rock, other forms of Metal started stealing fans in the late 80's & early 90's like Thrash & Death Metal & the European Black Metal scene. 4. By 1995 is was all about Rap-Metal & Nu Metal, like Rage Against The Machine, Limp Biskit, Korn & Deftones.
@8barbies779
@8barbies779 3 жыл бұрын
This. so, so under rated and simple. you and BD (below a few comments) really managed to sum this up in so little words. i was 21 in Seattle when nirvana etc. dropped and i can't explain how huge your points were. and it's really hard to explain how huge MTV, magazines & the radio was to us non-musician kids without the internet. those 3 things and bars were how we got our music. fucking crazy dude...we didn't yoosta have the internet. whoa
@francescov.3610
@francescov.3610 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a huge fan of 80s metal and 80s music as a whole and being only 27, I obviously wasn't around when hair bands where huge but from what I've been told by other metalheads by that era. The market was already being completley oversaturated with hair bands by 1989-1990 and most music fans were beginning to get sick of it, which is why when Nirvana hit the scene around '92, it offered something new and fresh to the table and it really marked the end of "the 80s" as a whole and the birth of the 90s as we know colloquially. The thing that I have always taken issue with was not "the death of hair metal and the rise of grunge" it was the fact that when hair metal died, it took traditonal metal down with it. By 93-94, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, and Dio were having major issues selling tickets for their shows, playing to half-empty venues (albiet there were lineup changes in those bands that didnt help matters much). Van Halen was probably one of the few bands completley unaffected by rise of grunge as Live Right Here Right Now and Balance sold huge, in fact Balance (released in 1995) was their fourth consecutive No. 1 album. And speaking of Van Halen, after Grunge's fall around 1995-1996, that's when you had this sudden demand for 70s nostalgia as the 80s was regarded as "outdated" but the 70s were considered "vintage". That's when the reunions of 70s bands started to take hold, KISS reunited, Styx reunited, Yes reunited, and Van Halen ATTEMPTED to reunite.... Another thing that always bugged me as a metalhead is the fact that there were and still are MANY great metal bands from the 1980s that are being unfairly mislabled as hair metal simply due to the clothes they wore, one of the most flagrant examples being Queensryche. The only time I hear Queen Of The Reich, Walk In The Shadows, Jet City Woman, or Eyes Of A Stranger being played on the radio, they're part of the "hairspray" special. There was one time that Hair Nation played Unskinny Bop followed by Eyes of A Stranger...In what universe are those two songs the same genre?
@sendnukes7810
@sendnukes7810 4 жыл бұрын
the balding destroy hair metal!!
@Janine.Najarian
@Janine.Najarian 4 жыл бұрын
Ye
@billbright100
@billbright100 4 жыл бұрын
There's nothing cool about a skullet
@johnmcminn8288
@johnmcminn8288 4 жыл бұрын
@@billbright100 scullets are cool!Ben Franklin started that!
@billbright100
@billbright100 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnmcminn8288 lmao
@Wheresthepepsibismol
@Wheresthepepsibismol 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnmcminn8288 Lars has a cool skullet.
@joshmarquis3536
@joshmarquis3536 4 жыл бұрын
80's hair metal wasn't the most Sex-Drugs-n-Rock and roll version of Rock. I don't know if there was any period that stood above the rest, since every era was drowning in it; But there's a good argument to be made for the late 60's/early 70's hippy scene might take the cake, since there were almost no sober musicians, all the big drugs were prevalent, and the audience was probably a higher percentage of users, and it was the free love generation. Punk and Grunge both made good efforts to be less sex-driven,/sexist, but both were full of drugs. But if any era wins, it's by an inch
@duane_313
@duane_313 2 жыл бұрын
But 80’s hair metal put a huge focus on the debauchery. They bragged about it. Much like how rap music does now lol
@reubenseldo1048
@reubenseldo1048 4 жыл бұрын
Hair Metal imploded from it's own sheer ridiculousness; and the shallow, sappy ballads didn't help either.
@henrikthorsen5971
@henrikthorsen5971 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, that's really it.
@LuchaLibertaria
@LuchaLibertaria 4 жыл бұрын
Hard Rock and Pop Metal was replaced by Hip Hop, Techno and Pop in the charts, all these genres are full of sexism and shallowness.
@VintagegainzNartistic
@VintagegainzNartistic 4 жыл бұрын
It was awesome catching, fun,melody screaming solos ! The vocals and not all ballads
@pantera89
@pantera89 4 жыл бұрын
couldnt agree more...
@ACETYGRA
@ACETYGRA 4 жыл бұрын
Plus all of those corny knockoff bands like Brittney Fox, Firehouse, Nelson, Slaughter, Steelheart, Trixter..etc etc didnt help matters either. Meanwhile Grunge, Thrash, and Gangster Rap was dangerous and intriguing to alienated teens in Bush Sr.'s America.
@normsmith5277
@normsmith5277 3 жыл бұрын
There was also a rap group running around called NWA who brought a new type of urban sound which took off like a ....
@anthonycoscia5501
@anthonycoscia5501 4 жыл бұрын
I love HAIR-METAL!...if you didn’t experience it, you just won’t get it. FOREVER 80s!!!!!!!!!!.
@mack7235
@mack7235 4 жыл бұрын
I will always love hair metal, anyone ever feel like Loudwire is the IGN of rock music
4 жыл бұрын
I have become to dislike Loudwire. They are spewing out myths and making young rockers believe the myths that we, the elder rockers have exposed a long time ago. This guy is probably in his early 30s, and a rocker wannabe with that stupid T shirt. You just don`t stand there, reading a script that sounds like snippets from Wikipedia spewing out myths like grunge was influenced by Aerosmith and Led Zeppelin. If you can`t even do research and come up with an answer to your own question other than the old "grunge killed hair metal" myth you shouldn`t be doing videos like this at all. They are just doing what every mainstream media news channel is doing. Creating a story they know little about, getting some "experts" to back up what you are saying and presenting it as facts. Fake news.
@LuchaLibertaria
@LuchaLibertaria 4 жыл бұрын
These hipster douchebags are just repeating old cliches. Glam Metal was already losing popularity by 1990 and those bands were moving towards a traditional Hard Rock sound/image. In 1992 Def Leppard was outselling Pearl Jam at theheight of grunge era, there goes this dipshits grunge killed hair metal cliche.
@LuchaLibertaria
@LuchaLibertaria 4 жыл бұрын
@Jka Vill 80s Hard Rock is replaced by Hip Hop, Techno and Pop in the charts. Enjoy your Kanye Wests and Justin Biebers.
@saintrhoads3375
@saintrhoads3375 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. Everyone watches and reads, but it's really fucking stupid
@heavymetalrules436
@heavymetalrules436 4 жыл бұрын
@Jka Vill shut up poser, you have to like ALL KINDS OF METAL to be a metalhead, you can't just like ur ONE genre and call urself metalhead
@ML-iq6pe
@ML-iq6pe 4 жыл бұрын
nothing killed hair metal actually. it's still alive. I listen to hair bands every day, still buy their records and still buy tickets to their shows, 30 years later.
@Ludvig377
@Ludvig377 Жыл бұрын
Any good new hair metal?
@ML-iq6pe
@ML-iq6pe Жыл бұрын
@@Ludvig377 Crazy Lixx, Crash Diet, Santa Cruz which I like the most
@skeezix8156
@skeezix8156 Жыл бұрын
Believe it or not Steel Panther got me back into it around 2008 or so
@camiloespinoza1874
@camiloespinoza1874 4 жыл бұрын
Good music survive the test of time. Never died. The 90s was a hard decade for almost all metal bands from the 80s not only glam metal. But in the 2000s recovered form
@RabidWolf1966
@RabidWolf1966 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing killed hair metal, it still rocks
@oshirockingham9655
@oshirockingham9655 4 жыл бұрын
yeah, nothing kills it but it's barely alive everywhere, small venues and barely sells tickets for the new generation of hair metal bands, people only go for the hair metal legends because of the nostalgia.
@nabilyassin1742
@nabilyassin1742 4 жыл бұрын
@@oshirockingham9655 yeah like the final countdown
@jaggedstar1537
@jaggedstar1537 4 жыл бұрын
Look, I'll admit some was good but most of it was kinda cringy
@VintagegainzNartistic
@VintagegainzNartistic 4 жыл бұрын
@@DragonFist9323 more
@nicolassosolic3760
@nicolassosolic3760 4 жыл бұрын
On You Tube lol Stop dreaming my yankee chum,it's over! The dream is over!!!
@twilitekid
@twilitekid 4 жыл бұрын
I can't believe the 2 actual murderers of hair metal have not been mentioned. They relentlessly did it on MTV every single day.
@BD-xn2dp
@BD-xn2dp 4 жыл бұрын
As one who started my teens in the hair metal genre and ended my teens in the grunge era...I agree with a lot of what's been said here. If I could expand on a point or two I'd talk more about MTV and how powerful that medium was concerning style, culture and even lifestyle decisions. When MTV started airing the hair metal guys we loved it, but soon realized we couldn't "be" it. There was no way that the vast majority of us are going to dress in leopard print, tease our hair to the sky, wear makeup and bang 3 different chicks per night. So it along with the music & the message both artist and MTV were preaching - it turns out it was fleeting. Then grunge comes around and we thought not only can we "be" it...We are it. Disenfranchised by the shallow empty excess of Poison, Winger, Nelson and alike, suddenly we see that being pissed-off & dressing like a lumberjack in July was achievable. Eventually it died out as well because grunge as it turns out was excess too. If suicide didn't get you then the overdose on black tar heroin probably will. In the end I grew up, I enjoy both genres. Oddly enough, It's not uncommon for me to crank "Nothin but a Good Time" on one day and "Pennyroyal Tea" the next. Are both the hair and grunge genres dead? To many - yes. But not in my speakers - nor in my heart.
@BD-xn2dp
@BD-xn2dp 3 жыл бұрын
Jeez - I wrote that nearly a year ago. Talk about a confusing mess of pretentious drivel
@mauve9266
@mauve9266 3 жыл бұрын
@@BD-xn2dp I’m doing a dissertation for school on hair metal’s decline in popularity and I came across your comment a couple days ago and found it pretty insightful as far as the grunge subheading goes so it wasn’t too confusing if it’s any consolation :)
@BD-xn2dp
@BD-xn2dp 3 жыл бұрын
@@mauve9266 Thank you - that does make me feel a bit better. Glad you found it insightful. feel free to use anything you like for your dissertation. You'll find a lot of my comments scattered throughout the grunge and 80s music posts all over KZfaq - some even more "winded" than this post from a year ago. Enjoy and DM me for more insight if you like.
@mauve9266
@mauve9266 3 жыл бұрын
@@BD-xn2dp will do :)
@8barbies779
@8barbies779 3 жыл бұрын
This! so underated. BD-you're one of the first i've read that really, really hits on the point that MTv AND the grunge style was Huge. it's hard to explain to you younger guys (i wish i was one) but MTV basically told us what to like. i think it's important that i say this coming from a non-musician, i was just your normal kid who grew up in a small town an hour north of seattle. i wasn't a musician so none of this is based on what is considered good musicianship, just on what we liked. and it's weird but - i think the age that you were when "grunge" came around can be really important. i had just turned 21 - in seattle, so i could finally get into bars. but where BD really hits it out of the park is the clothing/style that grunge brought with it. i had to make a new account just to reply to this because he/she really nails this. at our age at the time, of course we couldn't dress or have hair like the hair bands, not that we wanted to at the time because it had become a joke. but even a couple of years before nirvana dropped, vintage clothing stores had become huge for us college kids in seattle and faded 501s thankfully came back in style after the neon of the mid to late 80s. so...when PJ, Nirvana etc. hit and they were wearing shitty holy jeans and vintage shit, along with really sorta simple hooky tunes and not the fucking whack glam clothes and every band sounding & looking like poison...it was huge. damn, BD and Mauve i could go on for hours, but sometimes these 'grunge killed hair metal' docs try to get too cute and in the weeds. but when MTV started changing, the radio playlists followed, the fashion was more in line with what we were wearing and the music got more interesting (or at the very least different)...not for everyone, just sort of my group of friends who weren't musicians. go up a little and find a post by Saint Martins, he made some great points without going down my TLDR rabbit hole, and i feel ya on your edit BD, i have so much i wanna write but fuck...i get off track and confusing:)
@davidellis5141
@davidellis5141 4 жыл бұрын
Way to many mediocre bands were inked to deals. Bands that had no ❤. Stale imitatators.
@thedanksavatron7782
@thedanksavatron7782 4 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what happened!
@bassman0704
@bassman0704 4 жыл бұрын
All a formula. All followed that formula.
@billbright100
@billbright100 4 жыл бұрын
And too many power ballads.
@tomasagustinveravicentin7789
@tomasagustinveravicentin7789 4 жыл бұрын
@@bassman0704 I think forced to follow a formula just to sell records.
@tomasagustinveravicentin7789
@tomasagustinveravicentin7789 4 жыл бұрын
@Victor R. Yeah, I fucking hate Nirvana, but they had the punk from the 70s that 80s glam rock bands had lost.
@davidnissim589
@davidnissim589 4 жыл бұрын
Just a lot of softer ballads in the 80’s that didn’t resonate with the fans who wanted things to stay heavy, so when heavier bands like Pantera and Alice In Chains emerged, around the same time that the “Big Four” of thrash broke into the mainstream, there was no going back for hair metal.
@LuchaLibertaria
@LuchaLibertaria 4 жыл бұрын
80s Hard Rock is not replaced by smthg Heavy in the charts, it was replaced by Hip Hop, Techno and Pop. In 1993 Atlantic Records dropped Overkill, Testament, Savatage, Manowar etc. from its roster, Mtvs Headbangers Ball completely turned into an alternative Rock format. There was no room for metal acts at alternative festivals. Next you are wondering why you are surrounded by Hip Hop and Pop music, think about that.
@psychedoutmike5957
@psychedoutmike5957 4 жыл бұрын
Late 2000’s crabcore/crunkcore was basically a hair metal influenced scene CHANGE MY MIND
@forgemastermetal
@forgemastermetal 4 жыл бұрын
I think it was a bit more pop inspired than hair metal, but I see where you're coming from. -BenFo
@TH3F4LC0Nx
@TH3F4LC0Nx 4 жыл бұрын
Crabcore? WTF is that? Is that because they all have STD's?
@zadiannelovessnakes8899
@zadiannelovessnakes8899 4 жыл бұрын
the real question is Who else killed Kurt Cobain?
@joshuagibson2520
@joshuagibson2520 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha. Fuck yes. This.
@drewperry2994
@drewperry2994 4 жыл бұрын
Lavvender Productions Courtney a bish
@zadiannelovessnakes8899
@zadiannelovessnakes8899 4 жыл бұрын
@@joshuagibson2520 XD
@zadiannelovessnakes8899
@zadiannelovessnakes8899 4 жыл бұрын
@@drewperry2994 lol
@Kinnakeeter
@Kinnakeeter 4 жыл бұрын
Courtney Love
@davidvondusseldorf1208
@davidvondusseldorf1208 4 жыл бұрын
I remember in the early 90's when Alice In Chains, Soundgarden, STP, Nirvana, Candlebox - bands I still like, were getting big. I was still buying new Skid Row, Motley Crue, Cinderella, Tesla, LA Guns in the early 90's. Good music never dies. I've never been fad oriented in my music buying. Alice In Chains still makes really good albums, but they're not as popular as they once were. I think most people who buy music, unfortunately, are into whatever they feel is new or hip at the time.
@Dehumanizer3000
@Dehumanizer3000 4 жыл бұрын
yet in 1992 def leppard with Adrenalize destroyed grunge and Nirvana nevermind in the charts, also hair metal was already changing, by 1989 or late 80s in general, the scene was moving to a 70s blues hard rock sound, with bands like badlands, skid row and Guns 'n' roses and in Europe, 80s metal never went away, Europe in the 90s was having its 80s, all hail Power Metal!
@ball8182
@ball8182 Жыл бұрын
Imo Alice In Chains isn’t Alice In Chains without Layne. I love Jerry. But man, DuVall and Jerry’s voices just don’t sound as good as Layne and Jerry.
4 жыл бұрын
The tabloid story is Nirvana showed up and killed hair metal. The real story is that Nirvana was just one of many underground alternative rock bands in the mid/late 80s that WAS NOT influenced by Aerosmith, Zeppelin and that scene AT ALL. Grunge was a hybrid of punk and heavy metal, new wave and post punk bands like Sonic Youth, Violent Femmes, Dinasour Jr and even R.E.M. Before Nirvana released their debut album Bleach in 1989, bands JUST LIKE THEM had created the grunge scene already from 83-ish, so Nirvana really just polished the sound and made hit songs and when they released Nevermind, the hair metal scene was already dead. Grunge didn`t kill hair metal. Guns n Roses did it almost by themselves in 1988 but because of the insane success Nirvana got over-night in 1991, it looks like they flipped the table all alone. But look at the numbers. Guns n Roses released Apetite for Destruction in 1987. That`s 4 years before Nevermind. Nirvana was already late to the party! Keep in mind: Bleach, Nirvana`s debut album is grunge at it`s core but it didn`t sell much. It was too dark for the mainstream. Nevermind was a polished grunge album and was a mainstream album for the mainstream audience. And as always, mainstream sells because ordinary people don`t like to get challenged by music. If grunge really would have killed hair metal, Bleach would have done it or the alternative rock and post punk scene looong before Nirvana showed up. But it didn`t. Why? Because it was already dead when Nevermind was released! The timing of the release was perfect. The table was cleaned. They could just waltz right in and take over because hair metal left a big space for another genre to fill.
@thedevilsoffspring6575
@thedevilsoffspring6575 4 жыл бұрын
Saying that even ballads were easy to make shows you aren’t a musician. What seems easy, is still hard
@idolcesar7124
@idolcesar7124 3 жыл бұрын
It was an amazing genre, catchy riffs, virtuoso guitarists and amazing singers. People only hated it since it had "metal" attached to it.
@mmmodafoca
@mmmodafoca Жыл бұрын
It had it's moment, but like the dudes in the video said.. it played itself out.. it became a caricature of what it was meant to be. That was in part of the time, and the record labels. The problem with this time in music is those bands were creating songs about fantasy, there wasn't a kernel of honesty in any of that.. hence the reason why alternative/grunge just arrived with a sludge hammer and basically smashed it out of existence.
@Jason21012
@Jason21012 Жыл бұрын
The skill it took to play guitar that way was insane, but it got too over the top when every show had to have fireworks, fake blood, costumes and explosions. It was basically like a parody of itself and it became more of a show than music.
@neugey
@neugey 4 жыл бұрын
This video somehow didn't get into some of the real reasons ... the scene got over-saturated and too many bands were getting signed, all with expensive tours, promotion, production and videos. A lot of the material was getting overproduced and losing its grittiness. There were a few notable exceptions like Skid Row's Slave to the Grind where bands actually were getting ahead of the problem. But it didn't help them for long as the the bubble was still due to be burst and right or wrong they would get lumped in with the naive bands still doing the cheesy/ballad/pop way. But in this case, the bubble didn't burst but instead there was a systematic plan to pop the bubble by MTV and the record companies. Kiefer's recollection of dealing with the record company midway through Heartbreak Station illustrate this.
@LuchaLibertaria
@LuchaLibertaria 4 жыл бұрын
THIS. Record Companies wanted to focus on cheaper productions and a guy rapping over a sampled beat is cheaper than 5 guys in a studio recording a Hard Rock album. And it wasn't only the "hair bands", in 1993 Atlantic Records dropped ALL metal acts (Overkill, Testament, Savatage etc) from its roster. Instead they focused on Hip Hop, Techno and Alternative bands (where cheap productions are celebrated as being 'real') At time all Classic Rock&Metal was dismissed as dinasour music. First in early '93 Mtv stopped playing videos by Classic Hard Rock&Metal bands, then later in the year Record Companies pulled the plug saying' they are not fashionable anymore. It's the greed of American Music Industry that killed 80s Hard Rock Bands.
@garrettramsey643
@garrettramsey643 4 жыл бұрын
Guns N’ Roses killed hair metal
@mack7235
@mack7235 4 жыл бұрын
Garrett Ramsey nahh
@garrettramsey643
@garrettramsey643 4 жыл бұрын
Mack Williams slash has came out and said that they hated the hair metal scene. Listen to afd, it has a much different sound than anything by poison or ratt, or motley, etc.
@jimherleva4541
@jimherleva4541 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, but whisper it otherwise you'll offend the cardigan wearing Nirvana purists.
@thedanksavatron7782
@thedanksavatron7782 4 жыл бұрын
GnR started out with the hairband image! Why do people forget that?!?! Axel's hair is all teased & wearing makeup in the welcome to the jungle vid!
@funcooker3029
@funcooker3029 4 жыл бұрын
@@jimherleva4541 Nirvana and Guns and Roses hated each other though :)
@matthewbrindley578
@matthewbrindley578 4 жыл бұрын
The best Hair metal power ballads came after its stopped being popular. Like more than words, to be with you, and love is only a feeling by the darkness.
4 жыл бұрын
True. I believe it is because of Unplugged and people wanting the blues back into rock.
@DenniWintyr
@DenniWintyr 4 жыл бұрын
The Black Album had a pretty big part to play in it
@Omar_E11
@Omar_E11 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was expecting him to mention it in the video.
@eyesofnight
@eyesofnight 4 жыл бұрын
Eh, that’s album was pretty commercial
@Omar_E11
@Omar_E11 4 жыл бұрын
@@eyesofnight Commercial =/= bad Commercial =/= glam metal Metallica's eponymous release was the first heavy metal (and it IS heavy metal) album in years to actually become huge, after all that Motley Crue and Bon Jovi stuff. They did it without hot girls in their videos, and without sparky glittery clothes. They did it with good, heavy, music.
@eyesofnight
@eyesofnight 4 жыл бұрын
@@Omar_E11 it's a hard rock record. They hired Bob rock to produce it because they liked the commercial sound he did on Motley Crue's Dr feelgood. Plus they wanted to have songs that would get played on commercial radio cause they weren't making as much money as other bands. Still a great record thought and threatening to leave their label after it went big was a genius business decision.
@DenniWintyr
@DenniWintyr 4 жыл бұрын
eyesofnight it outsold all the glam stuff by a mammoth margin, & did it with a stripped back, music over partying attitude. It pretty much closed the door on the whole sunset strip scene
@luvittodeath7031
@luvittodeath7031 4 жыл бұрын
7:31 trashed hotel rooms was invented by Keith Moon by The Who
@jamesdean3014
@jamesdean3014 2 жыл бұрын
80's rock star: Dies from a happy excess of drugs or alcohol. 90's rock star: Dies from excess depression.
@jaimeres
@jaimeres 4 жыл бұрын
80’s bands rule. 🤘🏼
@Hawiianlion67
@Hawiianlion67 4 жыл бұрын
Hair metal was great, like every band was amazing.
@yourfriendlyneighborhoodsm4708
@yourfriendlyneighborhoodsm4708 4 жыл бұрын
Hair metal was great but the talent roster of bands wasn’t that deep. There were like maybe 15 good bands at it’s commercial height and only around 5 great ones. Everyone else we’re just copy cats looking for a quick cash grab
@forgemastermetal
@forgemastermetal 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely! Well put!
@chrishenniker5944
@chrishenniker5944 4 жыл бұрын
I'd also add Acid House and the second summer of love, but also the corporate cooption of indie bands like The Stone Roses, The Inspiral Carpets, Pulp, Suede, Blur , Elastica and Oasis to the mix.
@littlefrogwithacoolhat
@littlefrogwithacoolhat 4 жыл бұрын
what killed the 70's, 80's, 90,s, 00's? the fact that its a business move to drop your artists and promote something new. The music industry doesn't care about the artist they care about money. That's the reality of it. I hear artists from the end of every decade say the same thing, they just weren't getting the same support anymore (gig, music and merch advertising)
@panturbofanger8424
@panturbofanger8424 4 жыл бұрын
Grunge didn't kill 1980s metal, the markets industry & excess did + the new gen.-times change the music & its meaning doesn't it only evolves.
@CptPandy-tj9ty
@CptPandy-tj9ty 4 жыл бұрын
Oof the word kill and a pic of Kurt Cobain might not go well together
@soulcrusher807
@soulcrusher807 4 жыл бұрын
Best thing he ever did.
@unicornsteaks6769
@unicornsteaks6769 4 жыл бұрын
To me it seems like GnR came along and were such better musicians and song writers than hair bands that came before them, they kind of blew up the hair metal scene, much the same way Pantera blew up the thrash scene. I remember when GnR put out Illusion I & II remarking to my buddy they were trying to be as big as the Beatles. And he said "They're doing a pretty good job so far." They had transcended the subgenre of hair metal.
@Ob1tuber
@Ob1tuber Жыл бұрын
I thought Metallica made Thrash popular
@mattcrumbley6923
@mattcrumbley6923 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t exactly agree with what he said about Steve Clark. He continuously struggled with depression even throughout Def Leppard’s success. His drinking/drug consumption was more escapist than celebratory. I wouldn’t say he in any way exemplifies the hallmarks of hair metal. From his modest personality to his toned down playing focusing more on feel than technical prowess
@22ndcenturymusicmansage35
@22ndcenturymusicmansage35 4 жыл бұрын
I think hip hop killed glam metal as much as grunge. Grunge cleared the slate, but rap was already bubbling to the surface as the next big commercial genre.
@LuchaLibertaria
@LuchaLibertaria 4 жыл бұрын
In 1992,at the height of grunge era Def Leppard was outselling Pearl Jam, GnR was the biggest band on earth and Bon Jovi was selling out stadiums, there goes this hipster douchebags grunge killed"hair metal" bullshit. Truth is by 1993, record industry figured out that they can make more money with hip hop and techno rather than Heavy Rock, so they pulled the plug on Heavy Rock acts. In 1993,Atlantic Records dropped Overkill, Testament, Manowar etc from its catalogue, none of these bands were "hair bands". So it was the American Music Industry that killed Hard Rock, the same thing didnthappen in Europe and South America where Hard Rock Bands continued to be popular throughout the 90s.
@Gourgandise
@Gourgandise 4 жыл бұрын
Why that second cam on the angle of your host? How do you want us to connect if he doesn't even look at us? Don't mind me though, I'm annoyed right now. Going through a rough time because I can't punch Trump and boy oh boy do I need this.
@rockclimbing3844
@rockclimbing3844 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! how did bands like Good Charlotte, simple plan, AFI come to be
@PartyNiga
@PartyNiga 4 жыл бұрын
R.i.p. rock n roll 1954-2010
@Dehumanizer3000
@Dehumanizer3000 4 жыл бұрын
yet def leppard with Adrenalize destroyed grunge and Nirvana nevermind, also hair metal was already changing, by 1989 or late 80s in general, the scene was moving to a 70s blues hard rock sound, with bands like badlands, skid row and Guns 'n' roses and in Europe, 80s metal never went away, Europe in the 90s was having its 80s, all hail Power Metal!
@mikepineda4713
@mikepineda4713 4 жыл бұрын
The truth glam metal era was the shamest moment on the 80s because everybody a simple garage rock band was taken like glam just with the hairstyle just mötley crüe have a different Sound for that reason two examples of change Alice in chains and pantera both glam metal bands change of decade and change everything with this two a groove metal band and the other a grunge with pulish sound
@Endo-uu8mo
@Endo-uu8mo 3 жыл бұрын
haha Metallica make that change thats also called sells their souls for money from trash metal force to a Big rock band,fuck fenimism fuck PC all that is for pussys and pantera was never so big as you say
@MdlAgedHeadbanger
@MdlAgedHeadbanger 4 жыл бұрын
I worked at a record store from 88 - 92 and hair metal was one of the biggest trends during that time. What I saw that killed hair metal was: All hair metal all the time - everything became hair metal. Most hard rock or metal bands got a makeover and a producer would adapt the sound. Overcrowding - There were A LOT of hair metal bands that have been missed/forgotten. It seemed every week we got the debut from a new band. Impossible for new bands to get a foothold. Bands got ambitious or creative well ran dry - If a band had at least 2 successful albums, by the early 90's one of two things happened. Either they had "writers block" ...interpret as you see fit or they decided they were AN ARTISTE! They put out new music that was above their ability or at least too far outside their comfort zone. Too much too soon - the bands that influenced the hair metal bands had years of experience before their debut. Van Halen had 4 years between formation and debut. Motley Crue had a couple years but all members had a few years experience on top of that. The later bands barely had a full set written when they debuted and not used to playing together. A Lot of it wasn't very good - This is really subjective, but some of these bands either were not ready for a major label deal or were just not very good. Either way they ended up dragging everything else down.
@LuchaLibertaria
@LuchaLibertaria 4 жыл бұрын
If you worked at a music store at that time you'd know that nobody called it "hair metal" back then. That term was made up in the 90s to lump all 80s Hard Rock and Glam bands together so that People would look down on 80s Rock Bands and start consuming the 'New products' Mtv was putting out. You'd also know that in 1992 (at the height of Grunge era) Def Leppard, Bon Jovi, Kiss etc. were still very popular. In 1993, Record Companies pulled the plug on ALL Classic Hard Rock and Metal bands not just the "hair bands" to make more money with Techno and Hip Hop acts.
@LaurentCourtin
@LaurentCourtin 4 жыл бұрын
Pop Metal, Glam Metal, Hair Metal, Teeth Metal... call it however you want, some bands still managed to produced a few catchy feel good songs, and I don't think anyone ever asked them to do more than that. The whole thing simply blew out of proportion thanks to/because of MTV. Had the network been a lot more open minded back then, heavier forms of metal could have shared more of the spotlight. I agree it was very formulaic, but every genre become formulaic after a certain point, musically and/or lyrically tbh. Sebastian Bach even gave a quite cynical interview once, in which he explained the formula (can't recall exactly but I think it was along the lines "First a kick ass rock song or two as singles, then the ballad, and you sold 2 million records". I think he also explained it was much tougher to reach the 3 millions mark). Still, it was also a little bit more, you know, uplifting than listening to countless 2nd and 3rd wave 90's alt-rock bands singing about how the world sucks and life is shit. Ultimately, as with any wave that preceded, and any wave that followed, it was a mix of over-saturation and limited shelf-life that killed it. There's always a window-span of only a few years, and you always soon end up with a copy of a copy of the few originals. It was actually almost a miracle that 80's Pop Metal managed to last that long.
@juanjoc7898
@juanjoc7898 4 жыл бұрын
Alice in chains is more metal than hair metal
@thebestgeorge5483
@thebestgeorge5483 4 жыл бұрын
Primus is More Metal than Glam Metal.. Hair bands I Like Pop Rock
@mymomsucksful
@mymomsucksful 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer “grunge” over hair metal, hair metal really only has songs of strippers cocaine and alcohol
@jimmydroid7838
@jimmydroid7838 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know about you guys but I still listen to old school Queensryche.
@kiprandom7208
@kiprandom7208 4 жыл бұрын
It was glam when I was a kid. I love it. Dokken is still one of my favorites
@petraphobic9626
@petraphobic9626 4 жыл бұрын
Hair metal still kicks
@dillonmacpherson3350
@dillonmacpherson3350 4 жыл бұрын
I need that shirt
@konstantingrujevski7358
@konstantingrujevski7358 4 жыл бұрын
Same!
@jasonpearce8401
@jasonpearce8401 4 жыл бұрын
RIP Reed
@bassman0704
@bassman0704 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
4 жыл бұрын
That T shirt is stupid dude. If you show up with that on a concert, metal heads over 40 will laugh at you.
@sherrigaskin5656
@sherrigaskin5656 3 жыл бұрын
I don't recall Ratt putting out a stadium ballad.
@garybrigham9538
@garybrigham9538 9 ай бұрын
And less than a decade after Grunge hit, band members started killing literally themselves whether by choice or not. Depressing music. Depressed people. No wonder that today 80's rock is more popular. The 80's bands actually had FUN!
@LuchaLibertaria
@LuchaLibertaria 4 жыл бұрын
There's no music genre as "hair metal", thats glam metal. It was popular in the 80s and people moved onto the Other genres in the early 90s. Nothing killed it, those bands are still selling out stadiums.
@heavymetalrules436
@heavymetalrules436 4 жыл бұрын
Poison🤘🤘, Motley Crue🤘🤘 are the glam metal bands about to sell out touring with Def Leppard🤘🤘 and... LOL.... JOAN JETT????? 😂😂😂. I love Motley, Poison, Def but hate Joan Jett
@duane_313
@duane_313 2 жыл бұрын
They sell stadiums as legacy acts. You can be objective and admit the “glam metal” look and sound hasn’t been relevant since the early 90’s. It’s not a bad thing or a good thing. Things change, people move on culture shifts…
@LuchaLibertaria
@LuchaLibertaria 2 жыл бұрын
@@duane_313 Thats true for most of the bands from the 70s/80s/90s, most people go to those concerts to hear the hits. Your right, Glam and Melodic Hard Rock bands are not part of the mainstream, American Corporates don't produce this kind of music anymore, however you can find a lot of these bands on indie European labels such as Frontiers and AFM, and some of them are really good👍
@yaboiwarp
@yaboiwarp 4 жыл бұрын
Hair metal isn't even metal. Whereas Alice in Chains and Soundgarden are definitive heirs of Black Sabbath. Or the Melvins for that matter.
@yourfriendlyneighborhoodsm4708
@yourfriendlyneighborhoodsm4708 4 жыл бұрын
Warphead Aye. Haven’t heard someone mention the Melvins in a while. They’re a great truly underrated band
@thevfxmancolorizationvfxex4051
@thevfxmancolorizationvfxex4051 4 жыл бұрын
I agree about Soundgarden, they are a good Stoner band
@LeoMessiGoat1986
@LeoMessiGoat1986 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe true but imo few tunes are as ‘metal’ as the likes of Slave To The Grind, Burn In Hell, Fuck Like A Beast, Tooth And Nail, Metal Health, Shout At The Devil, etc. Glam has its metal moments 🤘
@LuchaLibertaria
@LuchaLibertaria 4 жыл бұрын
These idiots call 80s Melodic Hard Rock Bands as "Hair Metal", nobody was using that term in the 80s.
@jonldavis
@jonldavis Жыл бұрын
Another problem back then is that we went from these very expensive stereos made for big sounds like Def Leppard to our PC speakers. Def Leppard did not sound as good on your PC speakers as did some more stripped down version of rock. I think that is why lower vocals also became more popular. Bring back the huge expensive stereos and you will want that high screaming with loud guitars again.
@unconditionalprong
@unconditionalprong 4 жыл бұрын
Most see grunge as the only thing that took out hair metal, but that's just one part of the pie. I argue that country had just as much to do with it. Keep in mind that an OSU marketing grad named Troyal Garth Brooks had exploded in popularity and sold albums to Beatles levels. Something even the grunge acts didn't accomplish. Even established country stars like George Strait saw booming sales. Shania Twain married producer Mutt Lange just before her popularity exploded. Country had a closer sentiment to hair metal that grunge did not. Country became party music. Compare Friends in Low Places or I Cross My Heart to something like Outshined or Heart Shaped Box.The sentiment is quite different. Some of the folks that got into hair metal also got older and probably didn't want something so heavy. It's something so rarely talked about, but needs more attention in my opinion.
@chrishenniker5944
@chrishenniker5944 4 жыл бұрын
unconditionalprong You're not wrong there, but I'd also add stuff like the second summer of love and Acid House too. I also think the corporate co-option of indie bands like Stone Roses, Happy Mondays, Inspiral Carpets, Pulp, Suede, Blur, Elastica, Kenickie, Morrissey, etc, had a role in it. Suede were very much glam rock, but closer to the T-Rex, Bowie and RoXy Music model.
@stevenbaksh5545
@stevenbaksh5545 4 жыл бұрын
Thrash also in 1990s was on life support
@forgemastermetal
@forgemastermetal 4 жыл бұрын
Some of the thrash / speed bands of the 80's were definitely struggling, while others like Sepultura were really just starting to get going. -BenFo
@thedanksavatron7782
@thedanksavatron7782 4 жыл бұрын
All metal was on life support in the 90s! Europeans & Japanese kept it alive!
@TH3F4LC0Nx
@TH3F4LC0Nx 4 жыл бұрын
@@thedanksavatron7782 Not Metallica or Pantera.
@Wheresthepepsibismol
@Wheresthepepsibismol 4 жыл бұрын
I'm 16 and I love Thrash Metal I own some Metallica cassettes and a Walkman Thrash Metal is coming back slowly in Connecticut you hear Thrash Metal on one of the rock stations that I listen to I heard that they are holding a battle of the bands I'm starting a Thrash Metal band called Killer Chihuahua
@stevenbaksh5545
@stevenbaksh5545 4 жыл бұрын
@@Wheresthepepsibismol cool that's great if you like the progressive thrash from AJFA you should check out Heathen Victims Of Deception if you haven't already
@patrickbevelock2171
@patrickbevelock2171 4 жыл бұрын
The first riff of Smells Like Teen spirit killed hair metal
@LuchaLibertaria
@LuchaLibertaria 4 жыл бұрын
Def Leppard was selling out Pearl Jam in 1992, Bon Jovi was selling out stadiums and Kiss was selling out arenas, there goes your grunge killed "hair metal" bullshit. Btw, do you also think that Sex Pistols killed all Classic rock in 1977?
@ponraul1221
@ponraul1221 4 жыл бұрын
That’s a good riff, but hair metal had great riffs. Just look up “Frankenstein” by Saints & Sinners (1992). Better yet, their entire album, which is great song after great song.
@LuchaLibertaria
@LuchaLibertaria 4 жыл бұрын
@@ponraul1221 Actually that riff is a total rip off of Boston's More Than A Feeling lol
@LuchaLibertaria
@LuchaLibertaria 4 жыл бұрын
@Don Not really, You can create millions of songs Without ripping off Other songs otherwise none would have been able to release any New music, Btw, Nirvana's Other big hit "Come As You Are" is a rip off of Killing Joke's 'Eighties', they were Taken to court and had to pay royalties to Killing Joke.
@forgemastermetal
@forgemastermetal 4 жыл бұрын
Loving this series!!
@davidvondusseldorf1208
@davidvondusseldorf1208 4 жыл бұрын
Never understood the constant naming of sub genres of rock and metal - Nu Metal, Hair Metal, Grunge. Stoner, Sludge etc etc. Its rock or metal that's it.
@jonnuanez2843
@jonnuanez2843 4 жыл бұрын
Hair metal: Artists having issues with chemicals. Grunge: hold my beer. Grunge got too sanctimonious, too proud of itself cause of the p.c. attitude. And chest puffing is chest puffing, no matter what side it comes from.
@tbury2516
@tbury2516 4 жыл бұрын
What killed hair metal? TIME. What killed the 60's music? The 70's music, What killed the 70's music, the 80's music. What killed the 80's music, the 90's music and so on. Different generations have different tastes in things. These guys have no idea what they are talking because they weren't there, I was and it was the greatest times of my life and I still listen to that music and newer metal everyday. It never "died" just all the posers left, which made it disappear from the mainstream but it never really went away. Almost all the "hair" metal bands are still around and touring and having a great time, meanwhile most all of the depressing grunge bands are dead (literally).
@PianoMan-hx3ev
@PianoMan-hx3ev 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. You said it: Time. Everything has a beginning and an end.
@Fregulus5
@Fregulus5 3 жыл бұрын
The teens who were partying to hair metal in the '80s were now growing up, going away to college and moving on to different tastes in music, as most 20-somethings are wont to do. The new generation of teens saw hair metal as their older brothers & sisters music, and so they latched onto grunge and made it THEIR music.
@ethanbenson563
@ethanbenson563 4 жыл бұрын
I kinda think poison was the personification of everything wrong with hair metal. Also, it seems like nevermind gets too much credit. It's good, and vastly different than hair metal, but Pearl Jam released Ten right around that time too.
@camiloespinoza1874
@camiloespinoza1874 4 жыл бұрын
In 1996 grunge was dead and buried. Next video "WHY GRUNGE DIED SO FAST AND WHY IS SO OVERRATED BY THE AMERICAN MEDIA"
@screamrad218
@screamrad218 Жыл бұрын
Why does Guns N Roses and Thrash Metal always get left out the things that helped killed Glam Metal? Alot of teenagers in ‘87 wanted something more harder edge. Guns N Roses brought back that feeling of songwriting and playing music. And not just fluffing your hair and how much makeup you have on.
@LuchaLibertaria
@LuchaLibertaria Жыл бұрын
GnR's debut album was hugely influenced by Glam Rock, Hanoi Rocks in particular. It didn't kill Glam but ushered an era of Sleaze Rock/Metal - 2nd wave of more punk influenced Glam Metal.
@polysteveshusbandandboyfri644
@polysteveshusbandandboyfri644 4 жыл бұрын
I see Kurt Cobain, I click
@twilitekid
@twilitekid 4 жыл бұрын
Jane's Addiction hammered a few nails in the coffin as well.
@twilitekid
@twilitekid 4 жыл бұрын
And White Zombie
@metalmellie4371
@metalmellie4371 3 жыл бұрын
I want your shirt! Where can I get one??????!!!!!!!
@MrSolracable
@MrSolracable 4 жыл бұрын
Appetite For Destruction
@UKSportsFan
@UKSportsFan 4 жыл бұрын
Appetite came out in '87, Hair Metal was still going strong in early '91.
@alexm5764
@alexm5764 4 жыл бұрын
Appetite was a little hair metal on itself, just look at the video of Welcome To The Jungle
@adamgriffith-smith9106
@adamgriffith-smith9106 4 жыл бұрын
@UKSportsFan I’d say appetite was the beginning of the end for hair metal then Nevermind was the official end of it
@LuchaLibertaria
@LuchaLibertaria 4 жыл бұрын
GnR was a glam band in the mid 80s,just Look At their early photos. Towards the end of the 80s,they went for a more traditional Hard Rock sound and image, just like many of the Other bands.
@kooshashahvar1320
@kooshashahvar1320 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexm5764 there way to bluesy to be considered metal even hair metal
@LeoMessiGoat1986
@LeoMessiGoat1986 4 жыл бұрын
I’ll take the likes of Crüe and Dokken over Nirvana and Pearl Jam any day but Alice In Chains is better than all of ‘em! 🤘
@denied584
@denied584 4 жыл бұрын
If you think you're getting in trouble with alcohol it only gets worse find a way to avoid throwing away your life it's more painful than you might imagine
@RunsLikeMays
@RunsLikeMays 4 жыл бұрын
A lot of factors went into the Hair Metal scene falling apart. I think the big thing was that once it became THE big thing, every record label signed every Hair Metal Band that they could to capitalize on its success. Each band signed had to have the big anthemic song, followed by the sensitive ballad. By 1991, there was no difference the biggest bands and the smallest bands. While this was happening, Alternative and Heavy Metal began to rise. Jane's Addiction proved that you could be artistic, androgynous, and heavy, all while doing your own thing. The fact that they rose on the streets of Los Angeles, like almost every Hair Metal band, should've been the sign of things to come. Then, the Red Hot Chili Peppers, another Los Angeles band with a distinctly unique sound, went Gold in 1989, and followed that with their most successful and beloved album. Then, Metallica put everything together in 1989, going 5x Platinum with an artistic album where all songs were 5+ minutes long. Then came their self-titled album, which became one of the highest selling albums of all-time. You could be heavy, unique, and sell records. All of the sudden, people who love metal but hated the Hair Scene had an outlet. Then came the rise of grunge, where this little band from Seattle unseated Michael Jackson as the #1 album on the charts of 1992. All four "grunge" bands came to rise at the same time, and despite them being labeled the same genre, they sounded very different. The freedom to be yourself is something that Hair Metal couldn't offer and once the public found truly great, unique rock music, Hair Metal couldn't compete.
@LuchaLibertaria
@LuchaLibertaria 4 жыл бұрын
What you call as grunge is Alternative Rock that co-existed with Hard Rock throughout the 80s.No, it didnt kill Hard Rock. In 1992 Def Leppard was outselling Pearl Jam and Bon Jovi was selling out stadiums. What happened was American record companies pulled the plug on ALL Classic Hard Rock and Metal (which requires big production) and jumped on the Hip Hop and Techno Train, since a guy rapping over a sampled drums is cheaper than a Heavy Rock act. Classic Hard Rock and Metal continued to be popular in Europe and South America.
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