That is false. You can make the choice to do 100 bad outcomes. out of 100 bad outcomes.

@@rafaelgonzalez4175 wut

@@JoshHitti Enlightenment. Is that not the subject? The experience of enlightenment is only for the person in AP state. In AP state you can choose to do only bad things to the real world. Every choice you make to affect the real world does so only in a negative way. In AP, experiencing enlightenment, you choose what you want to do, to those you do not like. Because everyone else you would not want to do a bad thing to. Enlightenment.

A hero dies one death but a coward dies many deaths

@@rafaelgonzalez4175​​⁠is English your first language cause whatever you are saying doesn’t make sense within the context or even grammatically???? :////

flow state is the hardest drug I’ve ever experienced and it’s truly so rad

So, how does this flow thing feels? I'm kinda curious.

@@lakshaykochhar6799 It feels like you are really connected to the current moment, like everything just feels right. Time passes by really fast and I know I feel a lot lighter physically when I’m in a flow state

@@lakshaykochhar6799 it’s just when you’re not thinking about anything else but what is in front of you. For me it may be trying to fanaggle a wire in a difficult spot but magically you’ll look up and hours have gone by and it’s almost like this electric feeling that you feel completely in control and connected to whatever you’re doing… sorry if this is vague it’s kinda abstract to describe

To clarify it’s not quite the same as hyperfocus but hyperfocus can definitely make the feeling more intense I think

Yeah, translations are awesome. Is KZfaq/Google actually good at translating Arabic/English now? It always seemed to be one of the worst out of the languages I've seen. Chinese usually ain't pretty either.

@@Taima Excellent, you can understand the meaning in Arabic

lol thank u , I was so confused.

"just be happy 4head" Yogis: "yep"

👍👍

5. Dissing incels 22:00

​@CursedZorthan 😂

Depends. Did your journey here start with curiosity or avoidance?

Yes

Seeing as I was 4 minutes ahead of you and my life has never been better, I'd say you're on the right track 👍

@@JakeIsLearning I’d say 60/40 but I wont say which way it’s split in case my subconscious is watching

It means absolutely nothing lmao

"... after getting dispatched, he was able to make a full recovery."

​@@HeyHereTer ☝🏻..where we are now.

Local man

B Presented to the emergency room feeling peaceful

I love you for saying this combination of words

If you believe in the concept of Karma, have faith and keep going No action goes unaccounted for Your points are accumulating like water in a dam - and at some point, the dam releases and it's going to give you returns gushing with force And it does work with just trying your best without only caring for the fruits of your effort. Because even if it doesn't "work out", that's only based on our perception of what a working out situation is supposed to look - there's no absolute truth to what that situation is

My explanation would be the world around you. As many try to be better the result becomes the world around them. How can I be the only one? It doesn't make sense anymore. Then the realization hits. I can only be as better of a person in comparison to others. You are the only one. Until you find another that is doing the same. Compatibility. People are always going to be a box checked off. Am I this type of person, or maybe that type of person. Do I socialize with only those that think like me? The majority rules, YES.

welcome to the world of serendipity my friend

Welcome to the world of serendipity my friend

When you’re actually going through withdrawal,, and post withdrawal these word games dont really mean much 1) you have to really want to get clean 2) you have to be willing to suffer 3) with no promise of “faith” or that god will save you; only that you’ve abused enough so that you finally understand that getting high (in whatsoever way you choose) is always the worse choice (its not wrong, but you deep down know you’re squandering your potential) Main point being; you’re going to have to suffer to get clean: physically; but whats worse is that psychological demons will haunt and chase you (the ones youve been hiding/escaping from) once you are sober…they will come screaming at you. So then your battle begins because you will face mental anguish like no other as the demons arise… but you must accept them and let them ride through you (without getting carried away in anger and resentment, depression) and experience all that pain and cleansing while holding onto your commitment to stay sober and hope to move on to a better life. For a real addict cliches are only so useful…you need practical advice so I hope this helps anyone struggling cus ive been there. A cheat code for cravings is just take deep breaths for as long as it takes for your craving to chill… + the extreme desire to get clean ✌️

Exactly. It's the thoughts, the ideas of the future or the past that haunt and hurt you. In the moment you are doing just fine. In my case - often times I think "man, I'll never find love, and will die alone without even knowing how it feels", and it hurts really bad. Awful pain. But if I stop and think for a minute - am I doing ok now? Yeah, I'm sitting in my office, chilling, enjoying the cool summer day. It's enough to be happy. And if I think further - even if indeed I never find love, and I'll be sitting on my bed in my 70s, and think "hm, I indeed never met anyone" - I am certain that it wouldn't hurt much. Maybe a tingle, sure, but not the crushing feeling I have when I think about it now. That's the paradoxial nature of our brains - the projection, the mere thought we make for ourselves, the future that we make up entirely or the past that is already gone, hurts so much more than the actual life does

My favorite "every day's doomsday"

@@rememberDay1 Facts. Besides, telling someone to be in the present moment is literally the last place they want to be when going through withdrawal. It's liking inviting someone to pull up a chair in hell. Maybe it's best to get comfortable, but you're not really going to, and all you want is to be before or after the anguish.

I agree with @rememberDay1's response to you, but I do also really like the "Be Here Now" quote in general. It also happens to be the name of the documentary that was made about the late actor Andy Whitfield (the first guy who played Spartacus in the STARZ series from 2009-2013) and the battle he unfortunately lost to Non-Hodgkins Lymphoma I believe it was. Very good, very sad. But I digress.

It doesn't work like that, at least not across the whole board. We have natural needs. Those not being met causes immediate suffering that doesn't require conceptualisation. The easiest example for this is pain caused by injuries or sickness, or hunger. You know without even thinking about the future that your present state must change. Your idea comes into play only when the basic needs are more or less covered. When you are thinking about life in terms of more, better, improvement. But once you slip below a baseline, you'll feel that your life is shit, right then and there, and not because you'd rather have a nice car instead of a bicycle.

@@Volkbrecht That’s not true, even when I feel sick or am lacking in food you can still have such a one pointed focus that I can ignore those negative feelings. I haven’t mastered it but I’ve had moments where things were going to sh*t and I was still able to shift my focus on what’s in the moment and even on positive perspectives. It’s very difficult and takes years of practice but I believe it’s possible to be blissful and happy even on the verge of death if you have mastered your ability to focus.

@@Volkbrecht I think you are confusing pain with suffering, you can be in pain but that doesn't necessarily cause suffering

Improvement is also impossible. If you can't be dissatisfied with your circumstances, you can't make them better.

@@baronvonkek8467 Improvement requires comparison and the abstract concepts of "good" and "bad, or "better" or "worse"

I like your name

понимаю

Mindfulness is a great tool for everyone, depressed or otherwise. I've never been depressed in my life, but taking up a journey in mindfulness has still been the most powerful thing in my life

Mate have you realised? No?

@@brovoker34 he’s different bro it’s like he’s saying what I’m thinking

That’s excitement, but that’s different than the actual dopamine hit. A better example might be eating dessert or an orgasm. You cannot simply think about an orgasm and experience the dopamine hit from an orgasm, but you can experience the anticipation of it which is also rewarding.

@@peterrosqvist2480 Comparing apples to oranges. No, you can't experience future dessert or orgasms, but you can also not experience future pain from cutting your hand off. You CAN experience future positive social experiences and any other future pleasure not caused by something "physical" like eating food. I'm not buying the whole claim that you can't experience future pleasure, but you can experience future pain. I'm open to evidence though

Actually, as Dr Robert Sapolsky explained, dopamine isn't actually the reward/pleasure neurotransmitter. The real dopamine "hit" comes with the anticipation of pleasure. Especially in case the reward/pleasure isn't guaranteed, the "hit" is stronger. This is the actual mechanism gambling and casinos work with.

​@@igotbluesdevils well, that kinda explains why dopamine doesnt lead to happiness

@@conscientunit1157 Yup. It also explains why a lot of people keep chasing "the next thing" (job, wage, partner, car, shoes, vacation..). It's never ever enough, and it never will be..!

How did it happen for you?

@@VeritableVagabond A book called The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle

@@sweepingpage1845 what practice did you do in that book? How long did it take you? Were you practicing hours a day before waking up?

@@sweepingpage1845 dude i read the book and it seemed interesting, it makes sense to me (i guess a little counter productive if im validating it through logical thinking when the idea is to get to a place beyond thought). Despite it somewhat clicking i just can't make any use of it. It's like someone saying videogames arent good in excess, explaining their reasoning and you're like oh yeah ur kinda right, but then you go play them anyway. Have you or anyone else reading this thread experienced this before where all these concepts are agreeable but you havent changed despite it? what things can i try?

@@VeritableVagabond Mostly just embracing the concepts in the book as fully as I can. I've listened to the audio book 3 times now, and I'm working through his follow up book, A New Earth. I wouldn't say I'm "cured." I'm still dealing with apathy and established bad habits, but the misery is practically gone. It shows back up from time to time, but quickly leaves again. It doesn't have a home to stick around in my mind and my heart. I was led to this book by Nate Muri, Thrive Like a Viking here on KZfaq. He's big on practices and resilience. I think he prepared me to resonate so much with the book.

That's not happiness. True happiness is only in the present, future based actions aren't. You mix up your words, descriptions and feelings and dont realise it.

Anyone that claims we can't experience happiness from thinking about future scenarios has never once thought about fapping after work Or in a more wholesome light, thought about the prospect of seeing their crush later

@@GhostZeroGZ Or thinking about a meal when you're hungry. But at the same time, thinking about minor annoyance brings more discomfort, than thinking about something good brings pleasure.

He’s not talking about excitement about future happiness or anxiety about future failure. He’s not saying prospects in the future can’t affect your happiness today. He’s saying that thinking about future happiness has huge neurological differences from actually experiencing it in the present, especially when compared to future thinking about unhappiness. When you think about unhappy scenario is playing out, your brain works more similarly to the event actually occurring to you now. This is not true for thinking about present happiness, is is just an undeniable physiological fact. He does not confuse his excitement for helping people as simulating the happiness he will feel when he actually helps them.

@@pookz3067 You're telling us it's not about anxiety, then proceed to describe what is essentially anxiety. And we're saying you can be happy now by thinking about potential happy futures, just as you can be upset now by thinking about potential future failures. I don't know what mystery you think you're solving for us, but this ain't it chief. I deny your "undeniable physiological fact"

Do you have any general advice? What impacted you the most?

Have you become goal-less? Because I have. And absolutely nothing interests me anymore. Maybe it’s just a phase but I can’t be bothered to invest any energy into anything.

​@@KK-sg5glthats just apathy and giving up, its not a good thing.

@@kymbbmI’ve heard some non duality speakers mention it, but not enough to cure my doubts of what you’re saying. Dr. K doesn’t seem like he’s in a “no self” state. So I’m not sure if he’d know what I’m referencing. Has your self dropped away?

@@peeteri95 *What impacted the most, In order:* 0. Purpose / Values Inquiries - For me, the biggest hurdle to overcome after over a decade of misery was Self-hatred and apathy. Very difficult to even want to try to change things when you're your worst enemy... But too bad, we're stuck with us for life! What helped motivate me a bit was Dr. K's journaling prompts for "Dharma / Duty", what and who I truly valued and had a Duty to get better for, even if I didn't feel that Duty towards myself at first. As well as basic stuff like Action-oriented thinking rather than Results-oriented. Gotta realize that the mind is wired to self-sabotage, and figure out ways to circumvent that. 1. Journaling - every single thing that lead to suffering, no longer letting it just be in my head. Every "problem" I've had with myself and my life (Even without fixing most of them, ended up becoming way happier in life), every issue, every repeating emotion, putting it to the page, exploring it. Take it out of the black box and see how much gets hidden by the top-layers and the avoidance. 2. Meditation - Both sitting with that discomfort and emotion that surfaces and isn't as suppressed by distraction as it used to be anymore, but also sitting in PEACE, disentangling from it at times, finding ways to relax from it instead of always pushing and pulling on it. Not reacting as much. Takes a lot of practice, Dr. K's scientifically validated "20 minutes a day for 8 weeks" was a challenge for me at first, but after a few months of having that be my main "goal", started getting close and noticing improvement. 3. Research - Had to stop pretending I know how emotions and thoughts work best anymore, despite being over 20 years old! Or that I was a special snowflake who discovered "true, unsolvable misery" and all the other 8 billion people (or 100 billion throughout history) are wrong or lucky. Started researching my issues more thoroughly, seeing different approaches to anxiety, depression, shame, etc online. So much is available, so much to consider and try to apply. Philosophy (Stoicism, Buddhism, Sartre, whatever interests you), Psychology, Neurology, etc. Dr. K content and suggestions helped a lot. Claire Weekes was a very eye-opening perspective on Anxiety for me. 4. Therapy / Coaching - Then, started bringing up all the shit I wrote with a professional. Didn't find the perfect fit instantly, but eventually found someone I can "use" - the therapist itself doesn't matter as much as how willing you are to engage, IMO. Every session where we dug deep enough to bring up intense, stuck emotions, felt so rewarding, so relieving afterwards, even when we didn't find "the solution". Simply sitting with it, knowing that's okay. Sometimes we DID find actionable steps that helped, started exercising more and finding ways to enjoy nature. By this point, a year after starting, life was pretty relaxed and enjoyable despite not having made many big changes. Kept getting better though! I don't know what path or support works perfectly (or even just well enough) for you, but I hope you keep looking and trying. It's worth it, it's doable.

I had time so i watch a twitch vod of his, and it connected points that ive ignored in myself. A lot to think about

I agree to a point, i've also learned from andrew hubermans podcast, that to have motivation to do difficult things that would lead you to a better life, you need to learn to activate the motivation (dopamine) during the difficult thing, not after or before. So during the thing you might start dreaming about a good future. I've had some success with this, but its too early to tell. (Imagining a good outcome, getting motivated to make it happen and making it happen)

Whoa, genius

Sounds like a good time actually

After ten mcdoubles you're definitely the opposite of enLIGHTENED. 😂

My friend you got mclightened.

Sounds like a regular Tuesday

@@diecar128 ohhhhhhhh

Hey, Im in a similar situation and I feel for you. A big thing that has helped me is the cognitive reframe of "I have the equivalent of Mike Tyson in my kitchen, and I can spar with him whenever I want". Going into it not expecting to win, but to know you're going to not only get thrashed, but also collect the best XP/hr at the same time, made me kind of appreciate the situation from another light

Use the sensations you feel in your father's presence as the meditation object. Don't try to aim for equanimity or use the meditation as a band-aid to feel more relaxed. Instead, accept the feelings so that you can process them. Better yet, practice metta / loving-kindness meditation, send love to your father. You create your suffering by your internal reactions to your father's behavior, this reaction comes about because you have subconsciously, in your childhood, created a narrative about his role and your role. Granted this is extremely hard to break out of -- families are some of the most heavy karmic relationships we can have in this life. I grew up with a narcissist father and took me years of deep meditation and inner work to get to a point where I'm not affected anymore. All the best

I think being able to be calm in this situation would require the meditation skill of a master. However, just the fact that you are able to calm yourself at all is good - you may not be able to remain calm in all situations, but learning to be in control of yourself when away from the stressor is extremely important for mental health. People who can't get out of fight-or-flight mode will end up with chronic illnesses, and you are teaching yourself to return to calmness when you are away from your stressors. Good job, keep doing it!

You’re on the right path, the goal is not to be calm and relaxed, the goal is to not react. When you feel those feelings just observe them. Don’t feed into the feelings or thoughts. It’s very difficult but over time the more you practice the easier it becomes to be able to stay clear headed even when faced with a threat.

@@cliffordgoh Doesn't acceptance of a bad situation just give way to it appearing more often?

I think that has to do more so with anticipation, as Dr. K described

Watch Matt Kahn...

As the buddha said, all fabrications fail and fade so practice diligently to achieve enlightenment. If you truly achieved it, you are on the path of awakening within 7 lifetimes, guaranteed. If you've actually achieved stream entry and thrown off the first 3 fetters, you can get it back. If you haven't, well, you should still endeavor to do so.

I'm on a similar path right now. I wish you all the luck there is in your journey bro. Don't forget a saying by many enlightened people of the past: The harder you try, the harder to attain. And the less you try, the less you attain. ❤

why don't you just enjoy life as it is and stop wasting time messing with yourself and inducing psychosis?

All these "wise" people trying to sell us permanent happiness think we're morons. Ain't nothing permanent.

Type shit

Don't chase your psychosis. Please, be safe.

@@Jack-fw7wdnah cuz what do these dudes be talking about fr ☠️😭

@@themudpit621 do not worry, it just appears when I am stressed out of my mind. I didn't have one since then

I did experience that. As I looked at reality I was the only one there. The people all around me were not aware at what seemed to be a distance, But I was aware that I am somewhere no one else is.

Maybe your brain starts adapting to Dr. Ks upload schedule 🤔

I’m like that 24/7

If you're thinking like that about your next response to someone you're talking to, and taking notes of how they are reacting every time, isn't your conversation happening noticeably slow?

@@EyeOfTheTiger777 That's not really how that works. Not in a literal sense. Granted, I also didn't describe it the best. It's hard to explain, it's more like "if you know you know" type thing.

I too, would join his cult.

@@Jumpingjackflash123 well, since the state of enlightened is pretty much subjective, as the notion is about how you understand the world around you.. it is for me, prolly not for you.. but it's the same thing that I don't believe in Siddhartha is being enlightened as Buddha, but that's my atheist side.. which I do not put out on everyone's statement just to hurt their feeling, so I could feel a little better or superior.. good day, mate

it's not enlightenment if there's doubt. Check out the channel Simply Always Awake or Frank Yang

Haha nice

😂

I am levitating right now

I mean, why not? Try and find out :D

If anyone does know how, please let me know.

I, as someone who is the personification of a random ass dude in the internet, can say, enlightenment is permanent because it is not an emotion. It is rather the absence of the weird ass bad shit your brain does 😂 also I think the description of "permanent happiness" is kinda misleading, because, as I said, it is NOT an emotion. It is more like enjoying existing or something, it's kinda weird to explain 😂

ok

If I remember well, an explanation that I liked about the permanence of enlightment is that it is a way of seeing the world and yourself, that once you can see it you can't unsee afterwards. Another analogy is that losing enlightment would be like forgetting how to walk or how to speak your native language. The enlightment would not be a state of mind in this sense, but how you will relate with the states of mind you will have afterwards.

It’s growing and always evolving

Nah... that would defeat the purpose. The rock inside which no external wind or waves can stir... that's enlightenment. If it can be stirred and we can go back into our petty and shitty lives, then it is meaningless. It's as meaningful as playing League of Legends

I'm glad that we can all think together and share ❤

I don't think that's enlightenment? enlightenment is like oneness with the self and the world that exists regardless of what's going on externally. it's more than just a feeling, idk. to me it's detachment from everything - happiness, sadness and suffering

@@MusiicRoolz I think both can be correct. The realization, and the feeling of bliss.

lol

the reason I am able to bliss out like I described in my original comment IS that oneness that I have achieved 🤷‍♂️. That should have been self-explanatory but I guess not for you - once you experience enlightenment you know what it is and how it feels and you have no doubts about it. You literally feel "lightened" like you weigh less and are in a state of flow. I don't think you've got there kid, long ways to go for you it seems 😉 carry on

The two are inseparable, idk what this dufus is going on about. The oneness part should be self-explanatory, that is the source of being able to bliss out as I described. Some people, like this NPC, are just stuck in a box

it's not enlightenment if it was just one week. Check out the channel Simply Always Awake or Frank Yang

Lol it’s not something you can switch on and off.. so question if it was even on to begin with..

@@TrTriTrippin given your name I'm going to assume your familiar with how I got it to turn on. I've got 20 years of experience with these things, but nothing like that had ever happened to me. I can assure it was real. Changed my entire life's trajectory. I'll probably never achieve that state again but I feel very fortunate to have experienced it.

yeah that part of the video seemed off.....

That’s the craving for the pleasure that the Xbox games would give, not pleasure. You were super hungry to play so u ran home, there’s no pleasure there.

​@@cypider2274it's like saying the hunger for your fave food is the same as eating it

You don’t get dopamine from thinking about it, it sounds pleasurable but actually feeling the dopamine won’t come until you actually turn on the console and play the game.

@@prismatic1239in germany we have the saying that "vorfreude"/excitement is the biggest "freude"/fun xD well it just seem that it´s impossible is not true. it rather depends on how much you can go into your imagination to feel it. for example if you dream there is no problem to feel pleasure from imagination but i gess thats a bit diffrent. maybe we are taking more about satisfaction than pure pleasure here. and don´t get me wrong here i agree more with what the video sayed then not. but impossible ? i doubt that

Yeah, I noticed that too. Not sure I want yellow brainitis.

Whaat?

Four times, I got once and then realized how screwed up others and society were. How did you do it 4 times.

@@DaveE99 Long story short, I've been through extreme suffering for the first two decades of my life and all I had was my own mind - nothing else. Thinking was my constant. It destroyed me as it would for any abused child, but I adopted a military mindset of discipline at a young age and was smart enough to learn the correct lessons. This along with infinite time to think for myself tore me apart multiple times, however getting out of the abuse and dealing with my mental injuries and continuing to think logically and understand others' perspectives, and the reality of mine, over the years was how. There's so much information and feeling to portray in this I hope that made some semblance of sense. I hope to publish some novels and release some music once my health permits me to work on them.

Same here, this whole video is priceless

That was SAVAGE lmao

He’s got a point tho, I was depressed before it was an option and I’m still depressed with it as an option, gotta cultivate the gardens of the mind before we get to that next stage of our life that we’re trying to get to

Same lol

If you try to chase enlightenment, you will never get it. Instead, look to the present.

watch a funny movie?

Yeah man. People who get's enlightenment usually laughs because they see suffering as a joke

Shush