What gear do I pick for my Classic Protection Paladin?

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Holyfrog

Holyfrog

4 жыл бұрын

Not sure which stats to go for on your Paladin? This video might help you decide. I attempted to cover gear as you progress from starting 5man until you have most of the gear you can get.

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@MasterMacaroni
@MasterMacaroni 4 жыл бұрын
You are heaven sent... this is the info that I’ve been looking for
@vvbloodrushvv
@vvbloodrushvv 4 жыл бұрын
Brother this is by far the best video on this subject I've ever seen. Especially thank you for the pre-level 60 gear selection. I've been looking for that sort of content for a while now.
@Sultx
@Sultx 4 жыл бұрын
Holyfrog! Thanks for the next video! Could you look at the next video being what items to prioritize from MC as a direct upgrade from the last loot list you showed here? Also regarding 6/8 Lightforged Set: the I've heard conflicting reports if the set bonus proccing off SoR (or not) or being ProcPerMinute or Completely Random%... have you been able to test this?
@romanw5055
@romanw5055 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Would you be so kind to post your stat weight suggestions? I'm curious about the value of armor compared to stamina, for example. Is weapon damage secondary, focus on weapon speed and proc on hit?
@jacquessoudelier
@jacquessoudelier 4 жыл бұрын
@holyfrog Great video! Gives me hope I don't have to re-spec for raids. Can you post a link to your talents and/or any hybrid builds you've tried? Thanks and keep it up
@matthewkeating6970
@matthewkeating6970 Жыл бұрын
Great vid
@frede1k
@frede1k 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Holyfrog Great video. What are u thoughts on Drillboar Disk. Just got it today, but the defence and stam from draconian deflector is also very good. I have also been using Malistar defender a lot and it also have some good stats too. And then i just found Barrage Girdle from Cannon Master Willey in strat. It is mail, but has 23 spell power and that is pretty har to come by:)
@travisc4256
@travisc4256 11 ай бұрын
Hey @Holyfrog, big fan of the videos. I think they are great. I recently started playing WoW Classic (vanilla) again & I'm maining Dwarf Prot Paladin. One question I had is being a Dwarf, where/how do you prioritize or balance getting hit chance capped (9%) while taking into consideration the many other stats needed as a Prot Paladin? Hope to hear back from you on this. Thank you!
@Bdubsy
@Bdubsy 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Don’t know if I missed it or you didn’t include it but hand of Edward the odd is pretty amazing from what I’ve seen. Good dps, fast speed, and proc can be used for heal, self or off, which is a lot of extra threat. And in undead dungeons can insta cast the holy wrath aoe
@Avoidling
@Avoidling 4 жыл бұрын
I suppose I should have yes. It's a pretty ok weapon. It has good speed, but the proc generally isnt doing much for your tanking. You can occasionally heal yourself with Holy Light but its unlikely to proc when you actually need the heal, and Holy Light cost a lot of mana so its not great for producing threat either.
@PushIt2287
@PushIt2287 4 жыл бұрын
Holyfrog would you use azuresong mageblade as a tank weapon if you had it?
@Avoidling
@Avoidling 4 жыл бұрын
@@PushIt2287 Not really. Mageblade is pretty slow, and I dont think the 40 spellpower make up for the loss in mana regeneration from Seal/Judgement of Wisdom. Mageblade would still be pretty good for aoe pulls with Consecration where you want more damage.
@scotty1436
@scotty1436 4 жыл бұрын
Leveling a paladin atm I'm 53 i was thinking at 56 I'll go prot and farm BRD till 58 then scolo for Full deathbone (5set) and buy skullflame shield and def neck from Ah, And use the agrents defender shield from lvl 56 quest in WPL
@PushIt2287
@PushIt2287 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for a new video! Are there any good solo gold farms that you could recommend for a Prot or 30/21 Paladin outside of professions?
@zelden666
@zelden666 4 жыл бұрын
You can solo DM East Lasher farm very easily
@Zachlight78
@Zachlight78 4 жыл бұрын
really helpful vid thanks, can I ask what is the name of the buff watch addon you have for your pally buffs, been trying to find one but not found a good one yet, thanks.
@mrgravyman
@mrgravyman 4 жыл бұрын
Is called pallypower :)
@yuong9921
@yuong9921 4 жыл бұрын
How Long will you be using the flurry axe till? And what will replace it ?
@ParallelBars
@ParallelBars 4 жыл бұрын
Holy frog can you do a video on the best gear for AoE farming as prot?
@glawk40
@glawk40 4 ай бұрын
Great video, can you post your talent tree please. I need to respec out of my aoe leveling build. I just hit 60. Thank you.
@papaSMURF204
@papaSMURF204 4 жыл бұрын
YES HOLYFROG!!!
@zeddevalons
@zeddevalons 4 жыл бұрын
love it!
@smoke12316
@smoke12316 4 жыл бұрын
What about thrash blade? i feel like it's a good single target threat generator, especially considering the fact it instantly swings on procs and doesn't affect your swing timer whereas flurry axe does.
@Oscar-pm9bx
@Oscar-pm9bx 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but flurry procs 24/7. I have gotten ironfoe and flurry is only slightly worse because of The rate it procs. Granted IF proc is better than expected ( better than thrash blade - not only overall but also for proccing )
@JavierLopezElMagnate
@JavierLopezElMagnate 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a flurry ax, but had a lot of issues with aggro. Swapped out to a slower weapon and things got better. I have all the deathbone pieces, minus the legs. None of it has intellect or spellpower on it, so i'm only equiping the belt and gloves. at 3900 health unbuffed i'm about as low in HP as i feel comfortable. Just wondering if I should be going for full deathbone or not?
@michaellewis1884
@michaellewis1884 4 жыл бұрын
Javier Lopez no u want the spell power chest from omok and the spell power helm from fineois
@JediFrog
@JediFrog 4 жыл бұрын
Ok, this feels really weird Both of our names are extremely similar, and both of us main Pallys in classic Wtf
@astokki9481
@astokki9481 4 жыл бұрын
When will we see a gearing for raids videos now that we know that gbok is sticking? Huge thanks for both these videos and guidance on the discord!
@xgreedxx
@xgreedxx 4 жыл бұрын
Gbok?
@JustAddGarlic
@JustAddGarlic 4 жыл бұрын
@@xgreedxxspamming greater blessings of kings (gbok) for threat :)
@julithun4576
@julithun4576 4 жыл бұрын
I think argent defender is your best option for a shield, and it is a quest reward
@Avoidling
@Avoidling 4 жыл бұрын
I dont like it. No stats, has no additional modifiers such as block value that you find on Barrier Shield/Intricately Runed Shield and no block value. Argent Defender is nice enough for boosting people or something like that, but with 1% procrate and a duration of just 10 seconds I dont really think I get that much out of it.
@waterface111
@waterface111 4 жыл бұрын
hey holyforg, testing myself as a prot paladin, but i cant find a proper balance between being tanky and having enough mana and spellpower to keep up agro. what gear would you use as your BIS?
@ToxicLadyBG
@ToxicLadyBG 4 жыл бұрын
Full t1, ironfoe with blazing enchant or lifestealing, 5 return dmg boe cloak, rag trinket, Uther's strength/heroism card, naglering, skullflame/argent defender with thorium spike from bs, crystal spire buff, neck and 2nd ring with high int/sta/sp, 20/31 spec. There u go, ure the ultimate dungeon tank with high self healing and aoe dmg/threat. Note that self healing from t1, lifestealing, heroism card and holy seal add so much threat that no t2-t3 dps can get off of u in any dungeon fight (except maybe some caster mobs)
@mrillis9259
@mrillis9259 4 жыл бұрын
Spec into stone skin at the character selection page.
@nacujo
@nacujo 4 жыл бұрын
What about skull flame shield? I never heard you touch on this item and many guides talk about how good it is on a prot pally. Is it only good for boosting and farming low level dungeons or can it be good at end game?
@Avoidling
@Avoidling 4 жыл бұрын
Its pretty much just an aoe farming shield/boosting shield. For raiding and 5man dungeons you would be better off with a Draconian Deflector for the stam+defense, or a Barrier Shield for the Block chance+value, or even the Alterac Valley shield for more armor. Skullflame is very good for AoE farming though once you get some spellpower, but for actual raids it has limited use.
@crolvarsk4901
@crolvarsk4901 4 жыл бұрын
I gave up on my prot pally. Aggro dumping mobs in strath and in fact all over the game basically made the prot pally much weaker than I found it throughout my leveling experience to 60. Threat was a major problem if you dont want to be drinking at the end of every pull. The last straw was in BRD when it was virtually impossible to hold aggro from two aggressive fury warriors.
@michaellewis1884
@michaellewis1884 4 жыл бұрын
Crol Varsk your doing something wrong then hit me up I you wanna go over what you may be doing wrong
@SenpaiTheExplorer
@SenpaiTheExplorer 4 жыл бұрын
Had the same issue as well, but this took my tanking to a whole new level. Also a guide by holyfrog. Now, I hardly ever lose aggro and drink WAY less. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ptOZirOaspe7n5s.html
@rod5040
@rod5040 2 жыл бұрын
@holyfrog what Addons do u use?
@TheOnlyValken
@TheOnlyValken 4 жыл бұрын
What do you think are the most valuable professions for a paladin tank? I was going to level alchemy and herbalism but I'm wondering if I should just eat the cost and buy my consumables to be able to craft my own explosives.
@Avoidling
@Avoidling 4 жыл бұрын
Engineering by far. Just the dynamite alone so you can do ranged pulls more easily makes the profession worth it. Then there's all the other utility like Force Reactive Disk, Sappers, and the PvP items on top.
@TheOnlyValken
@TheOnlyValken 4 жыл бұрын
@@Avoidling thanks! What is your ui addon? I like the little threat meter to the side.
@MrDigitop
@MrDigitop 4 жыл бұрын
32:29 would you still choose block % over spikes?
@tiggerhc
@tiggerhc 3 жыл бұрын
gearing up a pally before tbc, and this is still the best gearing/intro prot guide around. Not everyone can get carried in BWL/MC/AQ every week to catch up. Sometimes you gotta wear green Eagle gear!
@Fiaskooff
@Fiaskooff 4 жыл бұрын
thx!
@ZZ-cr9pz
@ZZ-cr9pz 4 жыл бұрын
I guess it's not worth putting spelldamage enchant on flurry axe, perhaps lifesteal is an better option then since it's cheaper?
@Avoidling
@Avoidling 4 жыл бұрын
I plan to eventually. You will be keeping the Axe for a long long time, so I think its worth spending the gold enchanting it with 30 SP.
@ZZ-cr9pz
@ZZ-cr9pz 4 жыл бұрын
@@Avoidling Ah thanks for quick answer, and gj on the video btw.
@Pupperino7773
@Pupperino7773 Жыл бұрын
Is soulforge a decent set?
@joshdothage8773
@joshdothage8773 4 жыл бұрын
What do you think of the 1h mace from Mara? 1.8 chance on hit restore 50 mana.
@vvbloodrushvv
@vvbloodrushvv 4 жыл бұрын
Apparently the proc chance on this is very very low
@alexchism5192
@alexchism5192 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed, running it right now and the proc chance is incredibly low.
@mirmak2470
@mirmak2470 3 жыл бұрын
As i see, acc to my experience, the weapons procs according to the mob's level. If i am wrong, pls correct me.
@anon7661
@anon7661 4 жыл бұрын
Does Thrash blade work the same way as Flurry axe?
@RC-go2kl
@RC-go2kl 3 жыл бұрын
The point was to have a fast main weapon wep. The Thrash Blade is a full second slower, but yes, it grants an extra attack chance.
@gregoryk1759
@gregoryk1759 4 жыл бұрын
how did you switched on 5 second rule on your SUF ?
@Oscar-pm9bx
@Oscar-pm9bx 3 жыл бұрын
@holyfrog what this man said
@mirmak2470
@mirmak2470 3 жыл бұрын
i got ''bettercharachterstats'' addon, so that addon shows to me that i have 317 defense and you are saying that 30 to 40 and for spire and dire maul runs u say that 60-70 defense. That's confusing. How can my defense stat be 30 or 60? Would you pls explain about it?
@Avoidling
@Avoidling 3 жыл бұрын
Defense from gear, not total defense. You always have 300 from being level 60.
@mirmak2470
@mirmak2470 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for reply.
@zelden666
@zelden666 4 жыл бұрын
Hand of Edward the Odd should be considered with weapons. I've been using it, it's very quick, has decent stats on it, high dps, and the proc happens regularly. When it does proc you can throw a low rank flash heal instantly for extra threat. It's also great solo for instant heals, instant holy wrath, even instant mount if you get a proc on a killing blow. In PVP it makes you impossible to interrupt.
@korthosen949
@korthosen949 4 жыл бұрын
we getting a how to backpaddle guide soon too? ;)
@IShallCallHimTaders
@IShallCallHimTaders 4 жыл бұрын
Sick of seeing other pallies with T2, when I lose it constantly. Fuck this shit.
@lingdongkong9779
@lingdongkong9779 4 жыл бұрын
We need damage meter :c
@Avoidling
@Avoidling 4 жыл бұрын
I dont use one. There's no information provided by damage meters that make you do more damage, and in my experience It just makes people tunnelvision on the DPS numbers instead of properly playing the game. Like when rogues will switch away from the mob at 5% health so they can start building combo points on the other mob at 100% health, and then you wipe because the mob didnt get killed off and the healer runs out of mana.
@lingdongkong9779
@lingdongkong9779 4 жыл бұрын
Holyfrog right! I fully agree on you, Holyfrog you rock!
@michael96412
@michael96412 4 жыл бұрын
Doesn't the information on damage meters highlight where most of your damage is coming from? You know, that way you can work on improving based off of it
@Avoidling
@Avoidling 4 жыл бұрын
@@michael96412 If you use the data to review your performance and improve for next time, great. Most of the time though, meters just make people cheese the damage at the expense of actually clearing the pack of mobs faster and more efficiently.
@dennis8972
@dennis8972 4 жыл бұрын
@@Avoidling I will be using the latest dmg meter i can find to guage for mana gain, proc rates, and dps( specifically a breakdown on dmg sources, Auto Attacks, Holy dmg, etc). I get the tunnel vision people get, but playing a protect paly and concerning myself with higher dps would be laughable, but it would not surprise me if some do it. good vid btw, just confirms my views on prot paly stats.
@toymaker5662
@toymaker5662 4 жыл бұрын
holy because prot is trash and ret is just auto attacking.
@59Lemony
@59Lemony 4 жыл бұрын
You don't have to play meta build. Just pick what ever feels more fun. Prot is great for mob grinding, big pulls and dungeon tanking. In pvp prot destroys melee dps :)
@HelloYersoGae
@HelloYersoGae 3 жыл бұрын
I play holy for raids and on off nights from guild runs I sell tanking speed runs for 5mans. Being a tank doesn't mean you need to raid as one. I'll let warriors have raid tanking while I am king of aoe speed running 5mans
@glawk40
@glawk40 4 ай бұрын
@@HelloYersoGae What aoe gear would you reccomend pre MC.
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