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@bellafiori6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for being patient with me, can't wait to get back into the swing of things! 💪🏽 PS. if you're ever wondering what's going on with MM just check my snapchat (bella_fiori) I always post updates there!
Can you not wreck my life with these mysterious disappearances!!! 😍😂😂😂❤
@methulinanayakkara71066 жыл бұрын
Bella Fiori would you please be able to do a case on William Tyrell
@biancaleek65536 жыл бұрын
its 10:54 at night and i know this is gonna freak me out but im gonna watch it anyway love u and ur vids bella !!
@leifllet16304 жыл бұрын
who else got this recommended 2 years later
@jasminevalencia91064 жыл бұрын
leifllet Me!
@Vivicci.x4 жыл бұрын
Hi
@joanna76064 жыл бұрын
Me
@iaiamohamed39694 жыл бұрын
leifllet lol
@symonegomez23884 жыл бұрын
9am here lol
@Misanthropic_hellhound5 жыл бұрын
Imagine the fear they felt when they realized they were lost.
@O_Ciel_Phant0mhive4 жыл бұрын
i know...it hurts me to think about it
@venticat5264 жыл бұрын
What if they weren’t lost? Like some articles said the path they took was pretty clear
@aldzjjj12884 жыл бұрын
Do some research before u comment shit like this and get 800 likes for no reason
@aldzjjj12884 жыл бұрын
If you think they got lost then good for you, that’s what they want you to think so tourist don’t stop going there 👍🏼
@keilidhseashore994 жыл бұрын
@@aldzjjj1288 they gotlost mate. They were in a bloody jungle, at night, in a place they hadn't been before
@rileywilkinson91024 жыл бұрын
Who els is watching this in 2020 while corona is going on
@carolinamartinez52754 жыл бұрын
Lmao mee
@agnethebirch-jensen92614 жыл бұрын
Meh :)
@lucyennis57164 жыл бұрын
Meeee
@mangoasf564 жыл бұрын
Riley’s Vlogs 😳✌🏼
@ChanelFuller4 жыл бұрын
Riley’s Vlogs me 🤣
@jessiehogeveen954 жыл бұрын
Such an interesting case... I remember in the summer after this happened I was about 18 and I had a job cleaning old peoples houses in my town. (Both of them were from the same area as where I live) I was cleaning in the home of a very sweet lady and I suddenly saw Lisannes picture on the wall, of course recognized her from the news. Poor grandma starting telling me that it was her granddaughter and that she never returned from her trip.. it was so heartbreaking!
@kuna78464 жыл бұрын
Oh nee, echt super zielig :( Woonde hun oma ook in nederland?
@jessiehogeveen954 жыл бұрын
Pieei Ja, hetzelfde plaatsje als Lisanne zelf! Inderdaad heel sneu was het!
@meliycon-roma41124 жыл бұрын
Um what are guys saying ( no disrespect) and that is so heartbreaking for grandmother for the family even
@kuna78464 жыл бұрын
@@meliycon-roma4112 ohh im saying like 'does there grandmother also live in the netherlands" and she says 'yes' ;-))
@meliycon-roma41124 жыл бұрын
@@kuna7846 ohhh lol
@aestheticgarbage66715 жыл бұрын
I'm still wondering how the dog managed to find its way home... Smart dog
@aqua_finessa60305 жыл бұрын
Uhhh when has a dog ever found their way home by GPS navigation. I'll wait....
@deficator7505 жыл бұрын
He can smell is way back. dogs are really instinctive
@eve75295 жыл бұрын
aesthetic Garbage also, why didn’t they follow the dog? i guess they wouldn’t know the dog was going home, but if they didn’t know where they were they might as well follow ut
@bagelwhiplash56764 жыл бұрын
or the killer liked dogs? 🤷♀️
@marilouspyrou98854 жыл бұрын
Its eazy.Well if u dint know dogys have GPS ok 😉
@hillaryteapartyy6 жыл бұрын
Strange fact: a taxi driver that drove the girls was found dead not long after this tragedy.
@Nanancay5 жыл бұрын
Really?
@mfstarr15 жыл бұрын
Adds to the mystery
@biancateodoravasilescu83395 жыл бұрын
maybe he followed them and stuff and after he killed them or one of them, he commited suicide.
@amyscreation48515 жыл бұрын
Well that just indicates that the Mexican cartel killed them and sent to kill him so there would be no witness or evidence
@platonichain69375 жыл бұрын
rip to the taxi driver
@ykwtfgdindahtown48754 жыл бұрын
I’m having anxiety thinking about how scared the last survivor was. Super Creepy
@aldzjjj12884 жыл бұрын
The last survivor???? They both got murdered 7 days before the night time pictures. The pictures were taken by the murderer, do some research ya dumb twat
@bumfuzzel77924 жыл бұрын
You need to chill out is there something going on at home or something?
@elinflowers31954 жыл бұрын
Aldz JJJ why would u expect them to do more research than this video?? take a chill pill my guy
@mscoolboi93294 жыл бұрын
Aldz JJJ can you stop acting like you know every single fucking thing and replying to every comment on your opinion. literally no one fucking cares so go do something better with your life then put people down, when your not shit.
@okay59904 жыл бұрын
Aldz JJJ they're saying this bc in the video the girl said that she believed that one of them died first while the other survived for a more hours. They're not dumb, you are
@brownspiderwoman4 жыл бұрын
I can’t think of anything scarier of being lost in a jungle in a foreign country with little food and no water, and then your best friend dying so you’re all alone
@aliciagomez32 Жыл бұрын
omg :(
@AA-le9ls3 ай бұрын
I can easily think of something much scarier, namely being kidnapped.
@arodordie5 жыл бұрын
imagine what these girls went through that’s so scary
@O_Ciel_Phant0mhive4 жыл бұрын
the only comment that matters
@laila64854 жыл бұрын
Anairen Rodriguez fr
@HayDayEveryday4 жыл бұрын
@@O_Ciel_Phant0mhive vtcjsen
@zandra_jon_3 жыл бұрын
Yeah🥺🥺
@jadebordelon69622 жыл бұрын
all these comments are abt the dog…. they should be abt the girls and what they went through ?
@SpiritualSinergyTarot6 жыл бұрын
My dad always warned me against leaving the tourist areas if I visit anywhere. People disappear all the time. Trafficking, cartels, organ blackmarkets, and other crimes.
@shinjiharaguchi54605 жыл бұрын
Cortney Green yes your father is very correct. Panama and mexico central America one big fucking shithole
@_Ph0enixx_5 жыл бұрын
FACTS
@Those.who.stay.silent.consent5 жыл бұрын
@@shinjiharaguchi5460 at least in those "shittholes" you don't get shot for just sitting in class at school or get into pedophile rings while going at Mc Donalds at 3 am after school. America harbors the most serial killers in history compared to all other countries in the WORLD even those as populated as China, when it is the youngest of them all. All the pedophile rings in Thailand had an American either at the head of it or somewhere in a high position, doing their operation from home. I work for the UN I have facts for days on ANY country that you think is safe, dickhead. I live in SWITZERLAND and a young adult lost his life because he refused to give a cigarette not too long ago, and this isn't an isolated incident. Speaking of shitthole country when yours is made of people's flesh and blood is facetious . Have some respect for people's countries, especially when you live in a glass house.
@luckyshow985 жыл бұрын
Egyptian__ __Queen you go girl! please give a run down on ‘safe’ countries what fucked up thing, do they do? x
@luckyshow985 жыл бұрын
Egyptian__ __Queen also what was the young Swiss adult’s name called
@5aturnia4 жыл бұрын
Here are two things I know for sure. The Panamanian government had this attitude of “they are already dead, let’s not let this screw up our tourism industry” hence the mention of wild animals and the natural death in the river. The other fact is there is a group of cannibalistic aboriginals in this exact part of panama. They are called the conojes which is Spanish for rabbits. They normally come out at night, they survive off jungle plants and stray livestock. They have been known to eat people since the first Spaniards who visited these regions. They have a rival tribe who are more civilized and welcoming, this is the tribe that the government recruited for help in finding the girls remains. These girls are the 3rd and 4th tourists go go missing in this exact region. The first being a British man in 2009 and the second being a lone female traveller sometime after that. Not a single bone fragment of theirs was found. I believe the girls were found, abducted and eaten by this cannibalistic tribe, who are well known and very feared by locals. The chirqui is their stomping grounds, it is their home and they know those trails better than anyone else. This explains how the girls stayed alive. Why their money was not taken, and why so many of their belongings were found. They embarked on what would be a 8 day journey into the depths of the jungle. They didn’t do it for fun or out of ignorance. The fact that so many people follow this story and know every minute detail about it, but have never even known that there is a cannibalistic tribe that calls that jungle home is a sign that this has been covered up. That would be a tourism nightmare for panama. Hence the authorities in panama exhausting every alternative excuse even though nothing fits. The reason there was so much evidence left is because this tribe has no knowledge of forensics, criminal trials or evidence. No modernized murderer would leave a boot a backpack and bone fragments scattered around. Even a camera containing photos of where the women were abducted. But a primitive nocturnal tribe with almost no external contact would do just that.
@gmccord19704 жыл бұрын
G Host OK if one was to accept your theory about the cannibalistic tribe then how could it be explained about the pictures? The pictures make no sense whatsoever and they were taken at night. If the cannibalistic tribe is primitive as you say then they must know how to operate a camera
@LuisanaMcbo4 жыл бұрын
You meant "conejos"
@biancam25944 жыл бұрын
380PPK the girls took the pictures. My theory is that they were marking their place so that if they get lost they have pictures to backtrack
@suporacarr43664 жыл бұрын
Do you have *any* evidence that this tribe exists?
@han60614 жыл бұрын
May the pll took the picture wtf do they know about camera and shit
@paulalolohea99674 жыл бұрын
Who’s watching this through lockdown?
@adrienne3064 жыл бұрын
ur 100 like
@unknown-mn9wo3 жыл бұрын
Me lol
@mgparis3 жыл бұрын
2nd lockdown for me!
@brookeclawson95925 жыл бұрын
What if they took the pictures for land markers so they would know if they went in circles
@lenathegawdxd7664 жыл бұрын
Brooke Clawson or took pictures where they had been in case someone found the phone
@lenathegawdxd7664 жыл бұрын
Brooke Clawson but again just a super strange theory. The theory you suggested is much more solid
@mutinyonthekitkat4 жыл бұрын
Makes sense, but why take the photos in the middle of the night? I wouldn't think they'd be walking around in the night on those dangerous jungle trails following a river. The camera flash could have been used to signal to searchers they might have heard. Seems to make most sense to me personally.
@ellamartell7284 жыл бұрын
I think they were killed and the photos were taken to throw off police, why was there a week gap between the photos?
@iamlordvoldemort51894 жыл бұрын
Brooke Clawson That’s what I was thinking!
@sunflowercara86916 жыл бұрын
I'm oddly relieved that the dog returned
@jcqlnr4646 жыл бұрын
Caralee Koopowitz I was too!!
@MakeupWithSmidge6 жыл бұрын
Bubblegumgirl1996 maybe that's why he ran back idk
@tomnook97136 жыл бұрын
Bubblegumgirl1996 I’m guessing because that’s not the dogs alphas dogs r dedicated to their owners not some strangers even in the wild an animal won’t just randomly follow u unless they’re attached to u they would be scared of u , so he retreated back to his owners thank God!!
@evearcana23926 жыл бұрын
If only that dog could talk :-/
@poppyexall-mcevoy75616 жыл бұрын
I know I’m a bit late to this but maybe the dog ran off and then they went searching for the dog and that’s how they got lost but the dog managed to find it’s way back home without the girls
@arthursoesman3 жыл бұрын
the strange thing is that the dog 'blue' was never photographed by the girls. If the dog really walked a long with the girls, they would certainly have photographed him.
@seiyachan3 жыл бұрын
Key is what time the dog got back home. May be the girls didn't really want to bring him along and set him home early at the beginning of the journey.
@user-vs5jg2bg3q3 жыл бұрын
i think the murderer took the photos or the dog got scared by something and went home. i know i wouldve been taking a bunch of pictures of the dog lol
@lo37693 жыл бұрын
Honestly, if you are hiking in a new (to you) gorgeous area, that's what you are going to take pics of. The scenery and you in it. Not sure taking pics of a random dog would be high up on my list.
@standingwithright2 жыл бұрын
I certainly think that one of the owners was with them, they took their pictures, they sent their dog's home because they know that he knows the way, and last but not least, they left the girls in the jungle to die, or be found by cults
@robynghafoor49653 жыл бұрын
This case never fails to terrify me, imagine how scared you would be in that situation. And then if one died first leaving the other alone, horrifying!
@smileygladhands5 жыл бұрын
The photo sequence theory makes zero sense. That camera takes videos with sound. Why didn't they just make a video explaining what happened to them and where they thought they were?
@stopthephilosophicalzombie90175 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Why the fuck didn't they write a note in the Iphone or record a voice memo FFS? None of this story makes any sense without some kind of foul play.
@chihirosun5 жыл бұрын
Most likely cause they were stressed out by being lost/injured/trapped that they focused on surviving alone. I know it's easy for us to say this but I don't think everyone is gonna think about making a video while you biggest concers is finding water/food/shelter.
@maisiethebabyspider92295 жыл бұрын
@@chihirosun then why taking a long series of photos in the first place? :( like, thinking about a meaning/code behind the photos to leave a message with them is so much harder than taking a video etc. Idk :(
@chihirosun5 жыл бұрын
@@maisiethebabyspider9229 I think she was trying to signal a heli or so nothing on the picture made sense
@chihirosun5 жыл бұрын
@@maisiethebabyspider9229 And they probably didn't think about creating a message because that's very confronting to themself cause than you admit that the possibility that you die is big
@clairehuff31196 жыл бұрын
i need to stop watching these type of videos at night im so spooked
@rolandorzabal19555 жыл бұрын
I'm watching it now at 330 on the b morning 😨😨😨😱😱
@yazminestrada13325 жыл бұрын
Me too I get scared easily
@yashaswini77285 жыл бұрын
Meee tooooo
@girlygamerjada13465 жыл бұрын
Claire Huff same
@ninaramos64285 жыл бұрын
Claire Huff sameeeee
@giannadavison23644 жыл бұрын
this is the most confusing case ever
@augustalavenderblue73534 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the dog got away from them and they started going off the trail to look for the dog...dog eventually just went back home but they got more and more lost :(
@TrexDrake3 жыл бұрын
My theories is 1. The dog left them and they went after it and got lost 2. They got lost and the dog ran away. If this happened they could had followed the dog back home 3. They got killed and the dog ran home
@annevries85723 жыл бұрын
Something scared the dog
@annevries85723 жыл бұрын
But why didn't they take pictures of the dog?
@emma-gu7dv3 жыл бұрын
@@annevries8572 yes that is what i think
@kgranger64003 жыл бұрын
That makes sense, otherwise why would they leave a trail in an area unknown to them? I wonder if delirium set in at some point, since they didn't have food or water for nearly the entire time they were lost. Maybe one girl succumbed to delirium first which scared the other girl, and the photos with more distance between them reflects that.
@juliarogers23836 жыл бұрын
My theory is that they got lost on the trail and then they ran into a cartel and they harvested the girls organs. There is a huge black market industry for this in panama.
@nay_xoxo73936 жыл бұрын
Julia Rogers Hi, I've seen a few comments like this but I don't understand what you mean. I'm from Britain could u explain more plz?
@elle42776 жыл бұрын
Julia Rogers maybe the host family was in some way working with a cartel...
@theamelian6 жыл бұрын
Nay_ xoxo I'm also from Britain so I'll explain :) basically in Mexico and other Central American countries there are gangs called cartels. They primarily deal with drugs and there are huge rivalries between the gangs which leads to murders and kidnappings. As well as drugs, they're sometimes involved in other black market (underground and illegal) industries as their main aim is to make more money and gain more power and influence over rival cartels. Central American jungles, like the ones in Panama, are good for the cartels as their criminals can hide or operate without any hope of being caught. What this person was theorising was that a cartel found the girls and killed them so that they could take their organs from the bodies. Organs like hearts, eyes, livers and kidneys can sell for huge amounts on the black market to be sold on to hospitals, used in illegal surgeries or used if someone has to get a transplant urgently and is desperate. If a cartel has 2 entire sets of healthy body organs, which the girls would have, these could sell for millions of dollars because there is such high demand for them in the black market, which would make the cartel lots of money. The bones were probably bleached so nobody could track the cartel or identify the victims and because they weren't valuable for them to sell.
@nay_xoxo73936 жыл бұрын
Amez thank you! I get the theory now and I think that sounds like Somin that could've happened to the girls. I've never heard of cartels and the black market so I've learnt Somin new thanks!
@juliarogers23836 жыл бұрын
Basically they will murder someone in order to sell their lungs, liver, heart, brain ect for 100 of thousands dollars. They sell them on the dark web to sick people or canibals.
@dooreesz6 жыл бұрын
The most bizzare thing to me is that the host family's dog has seen all of things that have happened, but of course he/she can't tell it....if dogs could be able to speak.. :/
@Sasaaa144005 жыл бұрын
Since the dog came back and found the way home, I think they weren’t lost. Something had to happen to them, because if they were lost, they could just follow the dog...?
@conns4445 жыл бұрын
well the dog returned the night of the day they left, so maybe they weren’t lost yet and wanted to keep hiking late into the night???
@justpeachy8745 жыл бұрын
This is why i think animals should have small cameras built into their collar tags or something like that!
@Sasaaa144005 жыл бұрын
Carl Faust who would want that lmao they needed a dog to help them in a daylight, what makes you think they wouldn’t want it when it’s dark af
@jenniferoshea94545 жыл бұрын
I think someone or something must have made them go off trail. The dog would have been barking or occupied by that someone or something else and the girls would have seen it as there chance to escape hence why they would have seen the other trail as a perfect place to go. It also would explain why the dog was able to return and not them.
@redplanet6673 жыл бұрын
Nobody ever suspects the host family? did the dog really just find its way back home?
@standingwithright2 жыл бұрын
I did, iii did
@joyceyt67223 жыл бұрын
I don’t usually get scared by true crime cases but this makes me so so so uneasy
@kylerivers9226 жыл бұрын
These poor girls. I wish they would have waited to hike until their tour guide was with them the next day
@stopthephilosophicalzombie90175 жыл бұрын
He might have been the culprit anyway.
@jeanette52235 жыл бұрын
The tour guide killed them
@a_25024 жыл бұрын
Jeanette Zainine but how would he have known they would go the day before?
@mali01474 жыл бұрын
Anaya K they could have cancelled and said “oh we are going today.” or something like that
@zel30963 жыл бұрын
Madi If that is the case and he lost money then maybe he would of killed them. But for someone knowing the area he was pretty bad at hiding stuff.
@Aristadoe6 жыл бұрын
If the dog came back without the girls, they should have gone back to the jungle with the dog.
@lissanarvaez86295 жыл бұрын
i agree with you
@avafarr67884 жыл бұрын
fax
@franccyacutvr56114 жыл бұрын
dogs don't work that way
@Noneofurbiznsjsbaauabaaahhsbss4 жыл бұрын
Franccy Acutvr ..... yes they do?? Lol do you know anything about dogs at all?
@kenlee14164 жыл бұрын
We don't know that the dog actually went with them. I find it strange the 2 women did not take a photo with the dog. When their parents later went on the same trail, the dog was filmed..
@angelnumber20024 жыл бұрын
Damn the dog coming back could’ve been a pivotal moment in finding them ... like if the host family went and searched right when the dog came back
@christytaylor85112 жыл бұрын
Seriously! Or even the next morning. They didn’t report it until 7 the next night!
@standingwithright2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the family is also involved in their death
@gabrielagocheva76194 жыл бұрын
As my mom says: “If you get lost, hug a tree!”... Why did they have to walk around AT NIGHT?
@lane9284 жыл бұрын
Same with my father he use to say to me when I was little "if you got lost stay in your place don't move so it's easily we can found you .. "
@hanavinter734 жыл бұрын
Someone commented that there (area where girls went to) lives a cannibal tribe...so was thinking that maybe (that's just my opinion) girls got scared and tried escaping those cannibals...idk probably i'm wrong, but that could be the reason they didn't stop at night
@richardsmit83053 жыл бұрын
they were never on that pianista trail this all is a set up with photoshopping , thats why you never see the dog , they were smart girls who should have stayed on the trail , and not go in the forest
@selina76863 жыл бұрын
@@richardsmit8305 yes i agree scary shit
@kaytiespears8063 жыл бұрын
@@hanavinter73 I think that they got kidnapped by a cannibal tribe after getting lost. Probably saw people and got excited and asked for help and they were murdered and eaten.
@christiejones19205 жыл бұрын
No one: Everyone: I’m glad the dog is okay.
@ssearcy7225 жыл бұрын
Christie jones right? Annoying
@ryliemundt37594 жыл бұрын
Beef Sugar, not really.
@sherryscott34444 жыл бұрын
I haven’t seen one
@O_Ciel_Phant0mhive4 жыл бұрын
I actually care for the girls
@corrinearmes19794 жыл бұрын
I felt that
@Homeg0rl4 жыл бұрын
If the dog was smart enough to find its way back - wouldn’t they think to take the dog on the search? 🤔
@olivias71964 жыл бұрын
Emily Nicolle unfortunately no. The dog wasn’t trained to that kinda of extent. Although if it was trained to search and find I’m sure they definitely would take the dog on the search
@jamiesp23044 жыл бұрын
Probably because the dog would have known a way to get back home through smell etc but there would have been nothing to track (apart from the smell of the girls which it probably wasn't used to enough). So even if the dog was able to go back to the location the girls were at, they would have moved since letting the dog go bc they had walked a long way
@PaolaTheTimeLord4 жыл бұрын
i’m sure the dog has training to find people or things. indigenous people are resourceful. there’s no doubt the family trained their dog somewhat. the panamenian government is pretty corrupt/dumb. they aren’t helpful.
@YN-ld3mh4 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY!!! I saw a video from bedtime stories (check them out on this case, I love theirs as well! It's called the "Lost girls of Panama") Which explained that the killer(s) could've been familiar with the route and might be friendly with the dog or dogs in general. The locals say that there is a local your guide who was sush as fuck, he was always flirty with women, esp foreign women and made them uncomfortable, which is the reason as to why he was never hired. (My theory from now on) Maybe he followed them and taunted, like extreme catcalling and stuff, so, inorder to escape him, they could've taken a different route. That's when they get lost. And maybe a wandering serial killer took advantage of that did it (or) the serial killer actually paid this perverted tour guide to deviate from their path so that he can do his deed. About the pictures: if the girls wanted to get help they would flash it in a certain direction, definitely not facing the ground. Idk, I'm not sure about it I'm no expert. But I honestly think they were murdered. Some think the police decided to cover this up because a huge percentage that place was earning was from tourism, that was their major contributor, so obviously they wouldn't let something like a serial killer on loose out.
@utaiwo66314 жыл бұрын
1000th like!
@Ash-xf2ld4 жыл бұрын
ever think that the dog literally knows what happened
@sailordayix2 жыл бұрын
I’m from Panamá, I’ve walked in trails in that area. Without a guide is easy to get lost. People from our country that goes there usually train for a while before doing the trails because it requires some strength and skill. First time I went there my group did a “short” trail, we were working at a fast peace, with a guide, and common sense because some of us were from the countryside, and we still did almost 8 hours of walking. Some of our friends, city people, stayed behind and the guides had to look for them because they got lost in the blink of an eye. My whole group was able to finally get together at night. Some people was dehydrated, wet from head to toes, and since the temperatures drops a bit, some were shivering badly. This is a rainforest where the land is wet, slippery, your shoes get stuck a foot deep in the mud. Not saying there wasn’t foul play. But I remember this case clearly and we were all horrified they went into the jungle by themselves.
@JessicaGale-Cole Жыл бұрын
also so common for murders in Central America it is not safe for two tourist white women to go off alone .
@anarestrepo84025 ай бұрын
man i did it with like 8-11 people and 1 guide and it was so easy to get lost just looking around
@veronica33s454 ай бұрын
This comment is everything. Ive seen this video when it came out and ever since im so intrigued by this case ive researched it for long. But from the very first time it was so evident to me that there was no foul play involved. Very clearly these girls succumbed to the elements:( i commented on it 6 yrs ago my theory that still stands today, i think they had no intention to leave the trail, it was evident they didnt prepare for it from the clothes and the lack of stuff they packed. So i think the dog wandered off trail and they went to look for him, but likely immediately got lost. They did lost the dog at one point because he was home the same day, and dogs find their way home blindly, from anywhere. But they stayed there for 8 more days alive and sadly never returned:(
@PADARM4 жыл бұрын
How on earth their cellphones batteries lasted 11 days!!
@irene.57984 жыл бұрын
They probably only used it for like 1min each day then turned it off to preserve battery
@kalashear96544 жыл бұрын
Portable chargers
@kenlee14164 жыл бұрын
They did not carry portable chargers, so this phone with power for 10 days is just one more of dozens of suspicious aspects of the case.
@hinckleh4 жыл бұрын
Probably a Nokia brick
@olivias71964 жыл бұрын
The battery could last for longer then 11 days considering there is no WiFi, for that reason being WiFi brings your battery down. So if they used it to check times and did not waste time on other apps it is very fortunate that the battery would last that long.
@amymcdaid45306 жыл бұрын
conspiracy: the government are making bellas equipment break because they don't want her releasing all this information..😂😂
@LaKari126 жыл бұрын
Amy Lawless nice haha
@adelebalkauskaite26 жыл бұрын
i read thia in shane dawsons voice
@amymcdaid45306 жыл бұрын
Art hahahahah😂
@samanthawypych25526 жыл бұрын
Art someone should get Shane in on this. Imagine if they made videos together... it would be intense
@amymcdaid45306 жыл бұрын
Samantha Wypych i would love that sm i swear imagine them both speaking in that voice shane uses
@strawberrymilkshake90743 жыл бұрын
Lusanne could have made an emergency call without the passcode on kris's phone. Everything about this case is strange once you look into it
@cakebby183 жыл бұрын
Yes if they had iPhones I was thinking that too
@Ekinnajay2 жыл бұрын
This was years ago, they might not have had that on the phones back then. And it could also be that this country didn't have that option
@strawberrymilkshake90742 жыл бұрын
@@Ekinnajay yeah your right. Or after few days without food or water and all the stress just not in the right mind to do much for themselves which is understandable. So sad. Im morbidly fascinated by cases like this but theyre some heavy stuff.
@standingwithright2 жыл бұрын
I don't think it was her trying to get into the phone
@aautumnbailey25682 жыл бұрын
@@Ekinnajay in 2014 not to long
@btsarmy73574 жыл бұрын
Imagine the fear they had 🥺
@madde5384 жыл бұрын
Title: SUPER CREEPY Me alone in my bed at night: sounds interesting
@l0v3skullz874 жыл бұрын
madde i always do this to myself ;-;
@chur254 жыл бұрын
Look behind you 😲!
@oceanes.gauvreau35404 жыл бұрын
its 2AM haha and ive been watching stuff like that for an hour...watch me have bad anxiety in couple minutes
@janyiajackson86534 жыл бұрын
Same😂
@iihyelle4 жыл бұрын
😂
@peytonclapperton88336 жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry for the stress associated with this videos because of all the people always on your back about them. I appreciate how in depth you go in these videos !! xx
@ninam70956 жыл бұрын
Peyton Clapperton same creating those videos shouldnt Feel like a burder to her
@marye.54866 жыл бұрын
Peyton Clapperton same.
@shereehardin57836 жыл бұрын
some people are just childish
@jessicaishere84164 жыл бұрын
Love you Bella. I’ve DEEPLY RESEARCHED THIS CASE.! I’m talking months.. I do not agree that they died on Theyr own. I believe it was the tour guy. They offered a 30,000$ reward for these girls. The reward said “dead or alive” 🤦🏼♀️🤯 Then suddenly the same tour guide is the one that finds the first remains. No reward was ever issued and all the indigenous people are furious because they spent months helping.! The whole situation is soo tragic.! God bless both Theyr souls/Theyr families and everyone that helped with good intentions. I just love your content and your so gorgeous too. Love your vids
@Meowzers9154 жыл бұрын
Jessica IsHere Yes, I think it was the tour guide too. He was very suspicious the whole time. Wanted them to stay on his ranch with him the night before the tour. Goes to the host family looking for them when they don’t show up for the tour (who does that?) and goes into their room alone. Who knows what he took or messed with in there. His ranch was near where their bodies were found. I think he found them on the trail the first day and talked them into going off trail since he was with them and could “guide” them. Then he kidnapped them to his ranch and held them there for a week. They escaped and that’s when they took all the night pictures. That’s how they survived without food or water, why there is a gap in photos, the deleted photo could’ve had him in it and he had to get rid of the evidence that he was there. Their clothes and especially their shoes did not show signs of rough wear which they should have it being worn in a jungle for a week. I’m not sure if he found them after they escaped and he killed them, or if they did just die from injuries/natural causes at that point and he found them after death and took them. Then he planted all the evidence to be found and bleached one’s bones but didn’t do the other one’s for whatever reason. This is the only theory that makes sense to me. He let them keep their phones knowing they had no reception, or else he made all the calls himself to throw off authorities. As for those who say why would he go to all that trouble when he could just hide everything, misdirection works better. Make it look like they just got lost and died. If no evidence was found at all, no one would give up on looking for them and he was already a suspect. Planting just enough evidence to show they died out there served its purpose of throwing everyone off and shutting down the investigation.
@Arbiter7104 жыл бұрын
They called emergency services multiple times over days it’s sad but they got lost and keep going deeper in trying to find there way out...they prob got injured and died from exhaustion and exposed without anything bugs other shit etc...RIP to them that’s just my theory and no the tour guide actually didn’t find there stuff it was a local tribe that found some of there stuff
@Jessica-ji9lt4 жыл бұрын
@@Meowzers915 this makes so much sense!! thank you
@KrislonR4 жыл бұрын
They could've switched their hike to that day, who really knows?
@nipunkusuma35084 жыл бұрын
Here are two things I know for sure. The Panamanian government had this attitude of “they are already dead, let’s not let this screw up our tourism industry” hence the mention of wild animals and the natural death in the river. The other fact is there is a group of cannibalistic aboriginals in this exact part of panama. They are called the conojes which is Spanish for rabbits. They normally come out at night, they survive off jungle plants and stray livestock. They have been known to eat people since the first Spaniards who visited these regions. They have a rival tribe who are more civilized and welcoming, this is the tribe that the government recruited for help in finding the girls remains. These girls are the 3rd and 4th tourists go go missing in this exact region. The first being a British man in 2009 and the second being a lone female traveller sometime after that. Not a single bone fragment of theirs was found. I believe the girls were found, abducted and eaten by this cannibalistic tribe, who are well known and very feared by locals. The chirqui is their stomping grounds, it is their home and they know those trails better than anyone else. This explains how the girls stayed alive. Why their money was not taken, and why so many of their belongings were found. They embarked on what would be a 8 day journey into the depths of the jungle. They didn’t do it for fun or out of ignorance. The fact that so many people follow this story and know every minute detail about it, but have never even known that there is a cannibalistic tribe that calls that jungle home is a sign that this has been covered up. That would be a tourism nightmare for panama. Hence the authorities in panama exhausting every alternative excuse even though nothing fits. The reason there was so much evidence left is because this tribe has no knowledge of forensics, criminal trials or evidence. No modernized murderer would leave a boot a backpack and bone fragments scattered around. Even a camera containing photos of where the women were abducted. But a primitive nocturnal tribe with almost no external contact would do just that.
@dianac24984 жыл бұрын
My two cents - those girls were murdered. I didn’t know a dog was with them. No dog is going to leave their companions on a hike and just head home. They are either left, or otherwise separated from their humans (ran off and got lost ...l in which case how would the dog find his way home). No deterioration of backpack - means it wasn’t outside that whole time so that’s easy. Someone placed it there. Not knowing the passcode - someone other than the owner was trying to use the phone. I think someone was following them and terrorized them. Eventually they were attacked and the dog was scared off or separated from its humans completely.
@HayDayEveryday4 жыл бұрын
It is said a dog runs off when it sees something terrifying or maybe something/someone it can't compete with. The dog ran off to aware others that girls were in problem
@thomasshelby9004 Жыл бұрын
They’re not 100% sure that the dog was with them… If we look at their photos, we don’t see the dog at all.
@Shuya. Жыл бұрын
The pin code might be explained by one girl dying and the other girl trying to open her phone, just guessing the pin. Good theory though
@elizabethmiars37775 жыл бұрын
I’m scared af but I can’t stop watching these...
@avariley10254 жыл бұрын
Elizabeth Miars fr same
@aliciadahl26154 жыл бұрын
Elizabeth Miars same😂
@shafreennihar48274 жыл бұрын
Ik I wont sleep today 😥
@yztqcarly96844 жыл бұрын
Me too :
@oliviaritchie2474 жыл бұрын
XD same!!!!! 😝😝😝
@lexia21286 жыл бұрын
Maybe, the dog ran off and that’s why they got lost. Hear me out. The dog came home safely, but the girls didn’t. They got lost. I know if I was at a guest house, and the dog ran off, I’d chase the dog because I would feel awful about losing their dog. Maybe that’s what happened to the two girls. Maybe, the dog ran off, they followed the dog hoping to catch him, then the dog was able to find its way home LONG after the two girls had lost him. They then were stuck in the jungle, no idea where they are from running into the jungle after the dog, and tried to find their way back and got even more lost?
@sarahmegatronprime63465 жыл бұрын
Rehpuppy this makes a lot of sense.
@mitsyy11485 жыл бұрын
I def think this is right, my ex boyfriend and I went on a hike and got seperated and I ended up with his dog Nick. After a while he started getting anxious because I'm not his true owner and he didn't know me too well so he took off sprinting for my ex. I got lost chasing him but thankfully I did have reception and I made my way out of the gully.
@jhk73045 жыл бұрын
Yeah this makes sense. They chased the dog and got lost. . So sad
@stopthephilosophicalzombie90175 жыл бұрын
@@jhk7304 Either way it looks like they went too far down the trail under their own power. They should have turned around at the summit but didn't for some reason, whether they got turned around for some reason or because of the dog. That's a good hypothesis. I am really having trouble believing there wasn't some foul play, but that's probably conditioning from watching too many true crime videos.
@lucyd60945 жыл бұрын
If that, then why did they go all the way to the other part of the forest. This doesn't make sense. They would have tried to go back not continue the road
@spectralnighttravel4 жыл бұрын
This case has simultaneously gutted and interested me, so I've watched a lot of videos on it and heard many different perspectives and collections of evidence on it. What I don't understand, which I've seen a few times now, is analysis like yours, which mentions facts about the case that so bizarre and significant, such as bleached bones, finding a shoe with a foot in it, most of their bones being missing, 90 random photos in the dark between 1-4 am on just one day a week after they went missing, someone trying to access a phone 77 times unsuccessfully, their backpack appearing out of nowhere in pristine condition with functioning electronics despite the torrential rains and it being near a river, and then conclude...yep, they surely died of the elements and dehydration. That's all. I mean, what's the explanation for all of those things, then? They should be taken more seriously than just being "weird." Speaking of weird, I also don't know why people omit the guide so much. He was the last one to see them, offered to take them on a guided hike, has a ranch not far from where the backpack and bones were found, supposedly has a history of being inappropriate with women, and also was the one who "found" their bones. I mean...putting all of that together, there's just no conceivable way foul play wasn't somehow involved in their deaths. And the guide also apparently went to their room at their host family's place, when he raised the alarm they were missing, and search their room without police permission. He's fairly obviously involved somehow.
@FengShuiHomewithMilou2 жыл бұрын
4 years later this is recommend to me, i know this story because it was pretty big on the news here in the Netherlands. The whole case is so sad and scary at the same time. Thanks for covering cases all over the world. A thumb up for you!
@nateignacio43686 жыл бұрын
Who goes thru the comment while watching this ?
@kelly897booo36 жыл бұрын
Bc I’m scared
@coralaisly6 жыл бұрын
Me. Usually to see how many people don't understand how to formulate a polite request, and are apparently incapable of using the word "Please." You wouldn't think it would be hard, but comment sections seem to indicate it's quite difficult, as few manage.
@iris3h6 жыл бұрын
ngl its kinda my safe zone
@kate786556 жыл бұрын
zambot3 obviously people care or she wouldn’t do it🤷♀️
@krystalchalmers83595 жыл бұрын
Me right now🙃
@unusedboi92035 жыл бұрын
How is it common for a foot to be in a boot in the middle of the woods 😂😂
@annajohana39825 жыл бұрын
Ikr i was like "wtf?"
@0Flow05 жыл бұрын
I still remember that 😅 Bella has changed so much though. I have subscribed to her again.
@Eamesam4 жыл бұрын
I’m assuming if you die in the middle of a rainforest with tight hiking boots on, the natural decomposition process would make the foot detach from the rest of the body but remain in the tight boot. Animals/scavengers that would then disperse the rest of the body would make the boot and foot inside it isolated. That’s just my theory though.
@amaraberger71134 жыл бұрын
Exactly that’s what i was wondering
@Angel-xv7xo4 жыл бұрын
thats what i was thinking, like how much does such a spontaneous thing like that happen
@emmisu97244 жыл бұрын
Poor young girls.. 😞 So heartbreaking when people die, when they haven't even really lived yet.
@allyparra39903 жыл бұрын
i feel like with the photos they were trying to document their way so that way if they feel they needed to go back they would look at the photos and see the surroundings to find their way back to where they were
@jasminefernandez64946 жыл бұрын
They took the photos to remember wich way they were walking so that they didn't end up going in circles
@angelacanedit6 жыл бұрын
Jasmine Smith that's what I think too
@JoseRamirez146 жыл бұрын
Jasmine Smith holy shit. I never would've thought of that. Damn
@observingobviousness6 жыл бұрын
Wtf this makes so much sense Lol. Why didn't I think of that 🤦🏽♀️
@kalebobo6926 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for her to say that but she didn't... This theory makes the most sense tho?
@caitlynm43236 жыл бұрын
thats such a good theory! it didn't even come to mind
@scarlet39976 жыл бұрын
I find it strange that they would only bring one small bottle of water on a hike
@andreiakyra90586 жыл бұрын
Scarlet Viner-Bird ahhahahah
@evearcana23926 жыл бұрын
Yes! And then NOT drink it when/if they did get lost?!?! .... hmmm
@zoesenpaiuwu26816 жыл бұрын
Unless they were originally just going for a little walk around , not a full blown hike. I mean they packed sunglasses and bikini which kinda seems like they were probably just going to go for a swim or fun look around
@donnk6 жыл бұрын
so stupid not to bring more food and water...always be prepared
@_rainbow.bhabiee_6 жыл бұрын
Scarlet Viner-Bird me to that is strange....
@ni59333 жыл бұрын
feel like maybe the dog ran away and they went looking for it and that’s how they ended up off the path and they obviously didn’t want to return to the family without their dog
@ashleightooth57724 жыл бұрын
to ring emergency services you dont need to enter a password
@iwanttoswimintheswanepoel4 жыл бұрын
ashleigh tooth maybe there was no connection and they tried to call the hostess family.
@sockersss14 жыл бұрын
@@iwanttoswimintheswanepoel but you definitely need a signal.
@ncyutaspillthattea55664 жыл бұрын
Which is how we know the person trying to get into the phone wasn't one of them
@Kristen.The.Girl_3 жыл бұрын
You definitely need reception tho...
@lurnadurna12346 жыл бұрын
I think the dog probably left to go back home because he knew the way, but probably didn't go back exactly on the trail. The girls thought he was running off so they tried to run after him and got lost.
@j-mebernie15264 жыл бұрын
Makes sense.
@hevsworld4 жыл бұрын
And that's why they called so many times to see if the dog was okay and for help
@Alex9-24 жыл бұрын
Wow, wow, wow! Don’t blame that Panamanian dog! Those dogs are smart unlike usa spoiled dogs. The doggie probably divided to return back home since it was getting late and the girls probably just lost track of time (unlike the smart dog)
@ujinpolo80744 жыл бұрын
Alexa this has nothing to do with panamanian OR “american” dogs 🤦♀️
@abbigailcarr27252 жыл бұрын
@@Alex9-2 the girls made the first 112 call at just past 4:50. In April it wouldn’t have even been starting to get dark then. They knew they were in danger for whatever reason early on
@alicevicini72116 жыл бұрын
This case is so creepy and sad! I started thinking about the pain and fear those girls had to go through... I mean... just think about what they could've thought in the moment they were dying... alone in the jungle... so sad...
@iprobablywontseeyourreply.71936 жыл бұрын
Alice Vicini especially if one died first...than the other being alone after seeing that!
@jjohnsengraciesmom6 жыл бұрын
I agree. I wish the dog could talk.
@cryptic36556 жыл бұрын
Alice Vicini exactly. I can't imagine. Especially since only bones were recovered so we don't know what kind of sexual or physical abuse they might have gone through before their death
@lemon_of_truth Жыл бұрын
Too anyone here wondering the "local tribe" that found the remains were cannibals
@sierramooney37004 жыл бұрын
I'm a taxidermist and when I first started a few years ago I would look for raccoon and possum bones and whatnot in the woods near train tracks, so with the bones mentioned here, I'd be curious to know more about what the "bleaching" described. If the bones were corroded and the bone was flaking, you could easily say it has been bleached by human beings. But, there are natural decomposition circumstances in which a bone could end up whitened. It's very very common in places with heavy rain, and it's very common for bones found from the same animal to be not only scattered around by wildlife, and the bigger the deceased animal the bigger the scattering of the bones because the predator or scavenger is likely much bigger, and also, when bones are scattered like this early in decomposition a bone under a tree found in mud could very likely have more remaining flesh or grease (yellow/brown color) that bones found on rock or in the sun not protected as much from the rain. Also, often when someone drowns in water it's common for feet still in shoes to be found downstream because decomposition in water weakens certain joints much faster than the rest of the body so during decomposition feet will often detach in those circumstances. I hope I don't sound crazy, I'm just a taxidermist, I mean no disrespect to these girls. I do think it's very possible they got scared by something and ran off, separating them from the dog, but from what I know of decomposition I think in the end, one girl drowned, the other took photos so search parties might be able to figure it out, and then the other died of the elements, and maybe scavenging wildlife scattered the remains post mortem.
@kawaihito...17753 жыл бұрын
You must be right but what about the shorts found on the rock and neatly folded!?
@im-naw3 жыл бұрын
@@kawaihito...1775 that detail spooked me out too, but my theory is that if one girl drowned, then maybe the other put the girl that drowned’s shorts on the rock as some sort of memorial to honor her friend? and then she just gave up seeing that she probably wouldn’t survive, and succumbed to the elements. but this doesn’t explain why the backpack was found where it was. this whole case freaks me out honestly.
@anzaeria2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting to read. Though I thought it was mentioned in the video that animals didn't interfere with the bones?
@anastasiaburlakova8894 Жыл бұрын
it's also important to mention that the bones were in perfect condition so if it for the animals that scattered the bones,they would at least have some bite marks and stuff like that. Also the cut on the foot was very precise?
@conniestyles2.0256 жыл бұрын
"Losing a foot is a very common thing"............what?!
@alyssac17396 жыл бұрын
Same I was like wtf!!
@trumpugradguate91126 жыл бұрын
It's crazy but it is common. Feet just decompose slower inside a shoe. So it will fall off the body and remain intact. On the northern part of the east coast shoes with feet in them wash up pretty frequently (sounds crazy but google it, it's true).
@xoelise34316 жыл бұрын
conniestyles 2.0 Bish wut¿ 😂😂
@veeemm68036 жыл бұрын
LMAO.. seriously.. I let out an audible ‘what?!’ when she said that too! 😂 didn’t know this was a thing.... like, at all.
@leeandandoy82116 жыл бұрын
TrumpU Gradguate yep. in bc, shoes containing feet in them wash up on the shores for some reason.
@Kristina-zf1vf6 жыл бұрын
People make petitions?!?! Wtf why are people crazy 😂 love u Bella
@bellafiori6 жыл бұрын
Some actual crazy people out there 😂💀
@monikachowdhury91966 жыл бұрын
girl you still up lol
@Saloua.6 жыл бұрын
Kristina S lmao right? How pathetic can they be I bet they have nothing to do in their life and looking for some attention
@MelissaRose4446 жыл бұрын
Kristina S ikr!!! Ppl are seriously insane!! Like get a hobby!! 😂😂😂
@kenetrice6 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. lol People are legitimately INSANE. They need to get a job, a hobby, a pet to focus on or something. Sheesh.
@Vee-ug2rp3 жыл бұрын
i don’t understand how people think this was an accident when there’s multiple things that point to this being a homicide
@EveryoneLovesShelby3 жыл бұрын
phones cant make emergency calls without service! you need service for any call. what you're probably getting it confused with is cell phones that are not connected to a network (the phone doesnt have to be active) and it can still call emergency services. but you need service sadly, either way.
@sophierodgers21544 жыл бұрын
The bone bleaching is throwing me off
@eleanorallan80714 жыл бұрын
Been discovered it was sun bleached, not artificial
@christinehutchins1234 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure why they don't believe animals got to them and spread the bones. Not like the Mexican cartels gonna go through that trouble. There's gotta be animals that would do this.
@BigLipBoy4 жыл бұрын
Christine Hutchins Mexican cartels? Bro this happened in Panama
@christinehutchins1234 жыл бұрын
@@BigLipBoy , someone had mentioned Mexican drug cartel, was thinking that wouldn't make sense...especially since they were in panama! 😁
@ZombieGameZ4 жыл бұрын
People use the term "bleach" too literally, not meaning actually bleached but stripped clean of all tissue and such, it was said lime may have been used, though none was found in the local soil, hence where the Mexican cartel was mentioned because they commonly used lime to strip bones and speed up the decay process to hide evidence.
@carolineforero28636 жыл бұрын
I'm from Panamá and this was a big case here. I think that was one of the weirdest case that had happened. Greetings from Panamá. You're the best Bella.
@carolineforero28636 жыл бұрын
Iqra Ahmed I'm very confused because there's a lot of questions without answers but I think that was a group of bad people who did it.
@PinkieMilkie6 жыл бұрын
I'm from Panamá too and I really think this is a strange case, maybe they got lost and encountered something they shouldn't have, bad people or a wild animal. Still it is pretty sad :(
@Kinzahasan_6 жыл бұрын
caroline forero oh hi. Sending love from Pakistan. Stay safe and never go on hikes :)
@TheSkriot6 жыл бұрын
Im also from Panama and it could be some indigenous tribe that eat people
@lauranichols59624 жыл бұрын
Bella you should make podcasts about these story’s
@TheGrandSilence4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes people get a bit to hung up on the "Bleached" part, making me feel like they suspect some chemicals being used, but a forensic expert made more clear that "sun bleached" is what its meaning. And if it laid on a river back with more sun reaching it, that wouldnt be to outrageous. Some werent bleached because: They were in a shoe, they were maybe in the shade, under plants some werent and got sunlight exposure They had no water - they followed a river? In wet season... kinda lots of water all around
@tm64432 жыл бұрын
But she says it was cause by lime? Would that happen by the sun?
@bzzbbee5 жыл бұрын
there was definitely someone involved. how does someone’s pelvic bone end up away from the rest of the body?
@iwanttoswimintheswanepoel4 жыл бұрын
sophieシ if it was taken by an animal they could be very territorial in areas like the jungle and such ,and probably took it back along with the foot. which might explain why bones were scattered.
@adrienne3064 жыл бұрын
maybe an animal better now?!
@user-jo6xm2dz3j4 жыл бұрын
y’all bitches can’t even spell skinny none of the bones were scratched. no animal was involved
@user-jo6xm2dz3j4 жыл бұрын
adrienne y’all bitches can’t even spell skinny none of the bones were scratched. no animal was involved
@adrienne3064 жыл бұрын
Skeam U i meant an animal could’ve carried the bones not ate them and u can chill with the cussing bc i didn’t do anything to hurt ur precious brain
@Natbat225 жыл бұрын
I literally can’t stop looking at her lashes they’re so beautiful
@elviseinstein59444 жыл бұрын
Nat mmm that’s weird
@alyaalshehri79614 жыл бұрын
They r false lashes ( not real )
@user-zh1kk6io6d4 жыл бұрын
Alya Edits duh
@brandyohair41424 жыл бұрын
I came here to find what lashes they were! They're gorgeous!
@sonicgirl35824 жыл бұрын
7 6 LMFAO THEY FAKE
@mbg1408974 жыл бұрын
I know this video is two three years old but I just heard of this today and it is bone chilling. The fact that their bones were scattered and different parts of them scattered everywhere means someone or something did something to them. What a scary thought.
@HayDayEveryday4 жыл бұрын
I believe they were brutally killed and murdered by a group of indeginous cannibalistic people. Or maybe some serial killer
@mbg1408974 жыл бұрын
Hay Day Everyday I could totally see that. I was thinking indigenous people as well but what threw me was the bleached bones. Because don’t indigenous people just live off of the land?
@sleepyghostgirl3 жыл бұрын
Plenty of indigenous people nowadays live fairly normal lifestyles lol they don’t always just “live off the land”
@mbg1408973 жыл бұрын
sabrina w I’m talking about people that live in the far far depths of the wilderness, like the place that was mentioned in this video.
@redemption1188 Жыл бұрын
The tour guide apparently went in their room while they were missing, searched where the phone charges were, stayed in their room for 30 minutes and then left. He didn't call the police right away but waited 10 HOURS before reporting them missing...that's more than enough time to do what he needed to do and take care of the bodies...One last thing, for some reasons he found most of the evidence even if it was in the middle of a huge jungle in pitch black...sounds like he was the one who put their body parts there from the first place...
@kyliekoss81366 жыл бұрын
2 girls going for a hike in the jungle by themselves in a foreign country without any kind of protection
@jordynnomee24816 жыл бұрын
You know what would be a cool idea! You should do a mystery for every state in the us. Like the craziest on for each state.
@ThePasu886 жыл бұрын
yesss!!! i love this idea!! start with minnesota first!!!
@Carlasan956 жыл бұрын
JordYn Nomee I love this idea!! New Mexico gets a lot of unsolved murders
@akittynamedcat6 жыл бұрын
we know Florida's going to be the worst lmao
@lauragallaher45296 жыл бұрын
Why would she do that when she's Australian?
@akittynamedcat6 жыл бұрын
+Laura Gallaher lol true I completely disregarded that
@AlwaysAndrea4 жыл бұрын
I'm watching this three years after it was uploaded and I still love it. It is so fascinating to me. You did a great job Bella
@isacchernandez76004 жыл бұрын
A show on the travel channel called lost in the wild covered this case recently. The host and camera man actually went and re created the path they had taken including the exact locations two of the photos were taken. The most interesting part of the episode though was the interview with the lady and her husband that found the back pack. According to the both of them a photo that was thought to have bin taken hours after they got lost past the great divide was actually somewhere before the great divide meaning they never went past the great divide but instead turned around and at some point for whatever reason got taken off the path. The wife and husband that retrieved the back pack have to be extremely familiar with that path especially to make such a bold statement as to state the photo was with no doubt somewhere before the great divide.
@kennethmacalpin76556 ай бұрын
Irma and Luis are suspicious. Irma said she found the backpack alone then hiked two hours back to Alto Romero to tell Luis. Luis on the other hand said he was with Irma when she found it. Someone's not got their story straight. Also Irma's explanation for being in that spot at all doesn't make sense, she said she was there doing laundry, but it was also two hours from her village and she'd never been there before. What an amazing coincidence that she decided to pick a brand-new laundry spot two hours away that day, and it happened to be where the backpack was. THEN she also said the backpack wasn't there the previous day, but how could she know that if she'd never been there before?!
@Isaflorido186 жыл бұрын
Maybe they were taking the pictures to be able to find their way back like to mark where they passed through
@laurenthomas28696 жыл бұрын
That was my first thought! Xx
@sarah-xj3xd6 жыл бұрын
Isa Florido that's what i was thinking
@italianxvogue6 жыл бұрын
Isa Florido Didn't even think of that!!! That's such a good point!
@harleylouisa64666 жыл бұрын
That's what I thought too. Thought that would be the obvious explanation 🤔
@eshog89546 жыл бұрын
That's what I said!
@rominaskywalker68806 жыл бұрын
there's a lot of people who thinks those girls were eaten by cannibals, it's the theory that scares me the most
@shathahindawi11786 жыл бұрын
Romina Canneo I was thinking about the same thing :s
@jessicarenae51073 жыл бұрын
*Anyone else become a major crime case addict since covid??! I always was into crime stories but since Covid, it's... well honestly.... I basically watch videos on my phone all day while in doing things around the house so yeah, I'm addicted lol! It's actually hard for me to find cases I haven't heard of these days lol!*
@mina44264 жыл бұрын
irrelevant maybe but i can't stop thinking to myself how pretty her lipstick is aaaagh
@erina44676 жыл бұрын
But at the Same Time i also think it was definitaly Them who did the emergency calls bc they entered 112 First instead of 911 . 112 is the emergency number in netherlands ... so in Panic they probably forgot that & then remembered hey were in a Different Country it's probably 911... if it was someone trying to cover the tracks, they would've dialed 911 instead of 112
@georgie73556 жыл бұрын
Erin A agree!
@erina44676 жыл бұрын
georgiehembury maybe they would've gotten through if they knew the local emergency hotline :( that's kinda sad , but I also think it wasn't them who tried to get into Kris' iPhone , because you don't need to unlock the iPhone to dial emergency plus the attempts to call 911/112 stopped after April 3rd. That's odd
@georgie73556 жыл бұрын
Erin A True. That's what I was thinking as well. Why did anyone try to unlock her phone. But maybe the girls were already dead and someone found them and the backpack and thought they'd take the phone? I don't know. Super strange
@TheMsSweetgabi6 жыл бұрын
Erin A 112 is also the emergency number in sweden
@erina44676 жыл бұрын
TheMsSweetgabi i know , it's in most European countries. It's also in Germany
@averymueller27186 жыл бұрын
I would think that they took the pictures so they could find there way back, like bread crumbs in Hansel and Grettle
@kacie31166 жыл бұрын
Avery Mueller that's what i thought too!
@andreadoyle20336 жыл бұрын
Avery Mueller I thought the exact same
@maisierosesmith5816 жыл бұрын
Avery Mueller that's so likely!
@caitlinwright90446 жыл бұрын
Or even if they realised they might not make it back alive, so they took the photos for authorities to find later to piece together the case
@catscene45896 жыл бұрын
typing their story into notes would make more sense then
@mariammikhail52524 жыл бұрын
Everyone is talking about theories but I want u to feel no stress when it comes to uploading you can upload whenever you want and how ever you want. Don’t ever fee pressured to meet guidelines because it’s your Channel and your choice. The real ones will still be here and never put that type of pressure u were under
@karaheiser94312 жыл бұрын
That is horrible people have threatened you about your channel. I love your channel and you do a great job. It is your channel so when you can post you post. People should just appreciate. Thanks for all.
@morganmiller5646 жыл бұрын
My boyfriend was a boyscout. He knows all about the outdoors and knows ways to survive in the outdoors and he has a conspiracy theory. If they were in a jungle, they would have access to water. All they would have to do is boil it. They had sticks as well. You can make a fire with 2 of them no problem. Kris died first and her bones were bleached and lisannes were not. His conspiracy theory is lisanne was eating parts of Kris because kris's bones were bleached and they would have the same affect as if they were boiled in water (hence, why kris's bones were bleached bc lisanne was boiling her flesh to eat and lisanne's bones were not bleached.) Maybe the reason 28 of lisanne's bones were found was possibly why the rest of her's were scavenged by animals. Idk, just a theory tho 😂 we get into these videos way to much..
@michellemartinez63756 жыл бұрын
Morgan Russell thats scary to think about......
@morganmiller5646 жыл бұрын
If you boil a bone it has a similar affect as bleaching.
@elyseredwine2336 жыл бұрын
Morgan Russell this is literally terrifying but holy SHIET that could totally be it
@Kaaat4086 жыл бұрын
Yikes good point. Shit that's messed up
@veronica33s456 жыл бұрын
Katlovescoffee How did she boiled the water she found fire, saucepan and a stove in the forest? And no the bone wouldnt be bleached through the process and why would she even eat the pelvic area? Thats messed up and disgusting🤔
@eliapi3576 жыл бұрын
omg!! a true fan would never get mad at you for not uploading or for being late... who agrees ???
@NatTy1999_3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, not saying they should of thought of this but..I would’ve like left notes in my notes app on my phone to say what was happening exactly for someone to find
@keptins3 жыл бұрын
Or write a whatsapp message or an SMS etc. There are lots of other ways to leave a message which we cannot see in this case. So suspicious.
@tvtt53806 жыл бұрын
I think the biggest mystery here is WHY THE FUCK do people get so upset when you miss one upload that they threaten to start a petition to take your channel down? What a bunch of psychos, wow.
@azroia70436 жыл бұрын
Right? Like what if they got seriously injured!
@leilaaimee13355 жыл бұрын
how tf is it common to find a human foot detached from the body? Lol
@charlottehmn22924 жыл бұрын
Leila & Aimee i thought the same
@Lexi-zx3qn4 жыл бұрын
actually its pretty common, especially with people who die in water, as the ligaments in the ankle break easier
@alexisbradley17254 жыл бұрын
Have you ever heard of the feet washing up on Vancouver island? Haha
@fortheloveofthiss4 жыл бұрын
Feet are connected by ligaments not bone so it decays and falls off I guess.
@ZombieGameZ4 жыл бұрын
Very common in death near water especially, the body decays, the foot is protected by the shoe and falls off, look up missing 411 cases, a common factor in most of those cases is a foot found in a shoe. What's interesting is they found lisannes foot fractured in many places, which would suggest she fell and injured herself as well and probably succumbed to the elements
@mdiddio3 жыл бұрын
Kris passed away first. That's why hers were farther along and bleached. LisaAnne was the one trying to get into Kris' phone after hers died, to try to call for help. The pictures they took were probably an attempt to mark where they had been so as to find their way back or know if they were going in circles. It's a rainforest, it's easy to get potable water. A person can survive for on no food and just water for quite a bit. As a hiker, that's my guess.
@giannadavison23644 жыл бұрын
my theory: the girls who’s bones weren’t bleached died from a fall or drowned or possible split from the other girl and eventually died of starvation. however the girls who’s bones where in fact bleached witnessed the other girl die and got terrified and continued to try to find her way home but led herself even farther into the jungle. eventually a cannibalistic group found her and killed her then ate her. they may have seen her phone and supplies and realized that she has ppl in her life who would be looking for her and if they find these clues from her they could find out who did it. so they bleached her bones to try and hide there dna or whatever is left on the bones that when you don’t bleach them you could get caught. they must have scattered her bones so that they wouldn’t be all in one place and ppl would start a search in that certain spot. for the pictures that were taken at night i believe that was the girl who was eaten who took those and she took them as landmarks to know if she was or was not going round and round in circles. (i believe this or the theory she mentions at the very end that she personally believes!)
@seanburke74873 жыл бұрын
gianna davison nearly solved it in fairness and was joining the dots. it was one girl KILLED the other not witnessed the other being killed. kris killed lisanne. kris died later.
@giannadavison23643 жыл бұрын
@@seanburke7487 good idea
@haileyrae34266 жыл бұрын
someone was definitely after them or found their dead bodies afterwards its so weird but they were probably lost and delusional at a point before they died
@tianakeegan30876 жыл бұрын
right! i really don't believe they died because of the elements. somebody folded their clothes on a rock\, moved their bones miles and miles away and bleached their bones 100% nature didn't do that lol
@olly31876 жыл бұрын
Tiana Keegan yeah yeah I agree they were killed and if it was an animal tell me which one goes around bleaching bones after it kills you that's what cannibals do not animals
@jjohnsengraciesmom6 жыл бұрын
Tiana Keegan but that doesn't mean they killed them. Maybe they found them dead, did that stuff for religious reasons, so their sould could pass, etc.
@skateranddancer6 жыл бұрын
posted 20 minutes ago I really appreciate your reply. Well thought out response and some truly important info.
@ericp11395 жыл бұрын
The bone was Sun bleached. There was no lime involved.
@mizzbelle976 жыл бұрын
My theory is that got lost on the hike. They turned the phone son and off to conserve battery. The pictures and the method to them was for reference to make sure they weren’t going in circles. The one girls head injury might’ve been from a fall on a rock. One died before the other and she was trying to get into her friends phone after her own phone had died. Natural lime bleaching probably occurred on the bones. Animals ran off with the rest of the remains. I think it was just a sad accident.
@219cem6 жыл бұрын
OB G I think this is the closest thing to what actually happened
@staybeautifulx2856 жыл бұрын
No I think they was murdered
@liz-yn6ou6 жыл бұрын
OB G That makes so much sense actually
@Melodydomeroa5 жыл бұрын
but if she wanted to call 911 she could with the iphone , u don’t need to unlock the phone
@lolheytherejimmy5 жыл бұрын
they don't know exactly where their bodies were, where they died or where the stages of decomposition happened. it's entirely possible that there was lime to cause the bleaching naturally where those incidents actually took place, and then the bones were moved by water or streams etc. there's not enough actually known or studied about that huge area, so there really is no way to tell for sure what happened.
@tc364382 жыл бұрын
3 years late, but don’t worry about not uploading. Take breaks when you need it! We love anything you upload.
@RooftopRecipes2 жыл бұрын
You’re so beautiful. I love the way you do your eye makeup! Your content is awesome. I found it ~ months ago and have been listening to the cases non-stop! So good!
@AnaClarePlus6 жыл бұрын
from memory isn't there an emergency call function on iphone tho which you don't need a password to log into? that would mean that whoever was trying to log on didn't want to log on for emergency reasons tho? Also the bag was spotless which was really weird and if it had been raining it probably would have at least been a little bit dirty, especially since it turned up two weeks (was it two? I can't quite remember?) after they disappeared... Edit: could the photos be taken as check points or markers? like a way for them to discover what way they had came so they could identify places if they needed to? idk just an idea
@doriangray57506 жыл бұрын
AnaClare my guess is both check points. I think the two plastic bags indicate direction of both the river, and the monkey bridge. The Daily Beast found the exact spot where they were. As for the I Phone, maybe it was Lisanne using the phone . She was a Samsung girl and might not have known this. Regardless, what we know about this, is that something definitely happened to Kris from the 6th April.
@kelly897booo36 жыл бұрын
The bag was there for about 8weeks in the rain. And, I might be wrong but in 2014 I don’t think we could call the emergency without the password. Sorry for my english I’m french
@blazereho8116 жыл бұрын
The whole thing where you press your power button 5 times and emergency stuff comes up is super duper new, like within the last couple to few months. Also, we have the same ideas. I was thinking that maybe there were pictures or something that would be useful to authorities, so the killer deliberately disabled the phone so that all information would be lost. It's smarter than burying it or something, where it could be dug up or sniffed out.
@trashbagcoach93436 жыл бұрын
AnaClare that makes so much sense
@lindseyschwartz67296 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with what you are saying. What if the photos were like Morse code. For example, one far away photo could be a line and a close - up photo could be a dot. I don't know much about Morse code but its just a theory.
@myraw80813 жыл бұрын
Foot: *Is detached from body* People: "Yes this is normal"
@ciarah4084 жыл бұрын
New favorite true crime channel, I'm super creeped out!
@hannahphelps36816 жыл бұрын
i think the camera part is the weirdest. i can’t stop thinking about it
@stopthephilosophicalzombie90175 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Me too. It just doesn't make sense. Also the deleted photo gives me chills. I think the Panamanian government dragged their feet and may even have obstructed the investigation to keep the tourist trade from being hurt.
@edgarwho5 жыл бұрын
I think she was using the camera to see if she had already been in the same area. In the jungle everything looks the same cause we cant remember the minute details. But if she took pictures than she would be able to know where she came from, so maybe thats what the sequences are about. They werent for the people who found the camera it was for her to remember where she had been.
@HistMS4 жыл бұрын
One thing about the camera is even missing in the video. Exactly one photo was deleted from the camera - via computer...
@teresafan16 жыл бұрын
I think that while they were taking their hike they got lost and asked someone for help and that someone ended up not being too friendly. And when they realized they were in danger they sent the dog away for safety and to let their host family know something happened or is going to happen to them. So sad...
@ArianaPerez6 жыл бұрын
Kim That would suck since they just assumed they were okay and didn't contact police ☹
@Tina4Jesus4 жыл бұрын
So far this is the best and most researched account I've seen... Well done ! Panama, black magic, witchcraft, wild animals, aliens .... It could a combination of any of these.
@TK-br1tm4 жыл бұрын
I loveee the way you tell these you’re amazing❤️❤️❤️
@Steph-yi4qc4 жыл бұрын
I remember when I was about 15 and we were on a plane coming back from Mexico it was me my mom and sister. We ended up meeting this really nice mother with her two daughters and she stated they had recently escaped from I’m not sure if it was panama, or Honduras, Chile, but the mother said her husband was killed and whomever had herself and daughters tied in trees for many days and they had escaped and literally got a plane and flew to the US literally two days after that had happened, meanwhile they are in the airport probably paranoid as ever, they said now they couldn’t ever go back to where they were from, I wonder how they are doing now we didn’t get their names nor what city they were going to, but it would be cool to know more about it
@standingwithright2 жыл бұрын
Glad u didn't know their names u would have exposed them