are you Team Atlas or Team Reboot?

Reboot Royale was so good. I wish people would have kept playing. The guy who made it was very transparent and talked with the players a lot. He really wanted what’s best for the players.

Atlas and Reboot failing lies heavily on Epic Games imo, because holy, UEFN can sometimes be an absolute pain to work with, random freezes for seemingly no reason that have me force closing UEFN via TM, UI elements Epic Games have added themselves that just won't function, like the top center scoring system (the one used in the Domination map Epic released to show the capabilities of UEFN) that just doesn't work on a Team vs Team map i'm working on and there's absolutely no logical reason for it to be the case.

Its pretty unfortunate and extremely unfair how Atlas only became the more popular and more played one because they rushed theirs out first and it came out horrible while the Reboot team took more time with theirs, it came out a lot better (still not perfect) but people didnt play it more than the Atlas one because Atlas is the one that came out first. Kids just continued playing the one that came first without even knowing that the other one was way better and had more care put into it.

The main problem with UEFN is the lack of support from epic who still haven't addressed the memory issue.

The main fault of their downfall was epic games themselves.

I honestly thought reboot was much more accurate and higher quality, wish it came out on top

i feel like the lack of UEFN info before its release gave everyone higher expectations than what is currently possible., which lead to the downfall of both OG map remakes, not to mention that there are definitely not as many people that worked on either one, which lead to the numerous amount of bugs

And then epic announced "fine ill do it myself"

And then epic just did it themselves

This is why Epic needs to make a official but seperate Fortnite Classic that rotates between all 10 season on the C1 island. As if it just kept going and looping endlessly. Obviously, it can't let people get the battlepasses from back then. But they could let us link our accounts to it so that we can still use all of our skins AND get the same amount of match exp as regular Fortnite or progress toward challenges if the island has whatever is needed to complete it. So that means if you have a challenge that requires something like "kills with an MK7 or combat smg", you can't do it in Fortnite Classic because it wasn't featured in any of C1's seasons. But if it's something like "Kills with shotguns" then you can do it in Classic if you want. For those who would think it would get boring and repetitive, keep in mind that not all post C1 seasons hit their mark as we saw with C2S6. If players get unhappy enough but still want to play Fortnite, they probably won't care. Fortnite Classic could be something for players to fall back on if they don't like the current season. It would essentially be the Teen Nick of Fortnite and could give players something to escape to if the current season has bugs or content they just don't like. Meanwhile, people can always count on Classic to have their back with the exact same weapons, items, and POIs as it did back in the day for whatever season is in rotation. In PRE-NERF condition in fact! Yep, that's right. All guns that got nerfed throughout those seasons would have their stats reverted to when they were at their strongest. So that people, especially casuals and OGs alike, can once again enjoy those things in their prime as they once were.

The funny thing is that when season OG released there was still thousands of players on atlas OG royale

Epic knew what they were doing messing with the creators. especially since the OG map comes back in 2 days they knew if they let the creators make a high quality repilica people wouldnt have been as hyped as they are for the real OG map. sad but oh well

I think after the new season drop, atlas's map might die for the time being.

Creative 2.0 has been underwhelming and it's because Epic put restrictions on what you can create. I get putting restrictions on other video game maps people make as they don't wanna get sued by other gaming companies, but to not allow people to make other chapter maps is stupid. I was looking forward to going back to the chapter 2 map only to then learn Epic put restrictions on recreating the map. Nobody has been creating original maps that look as awesome as the maps Epic showed in the trailer for creative 2.0. I went from being super excited when I first heard about creative 2.0 coming to now giving zero f**ks about it.

I think it’s a combination of Epic games AND in general the way the game works. Both maps look great and did an amazing job. But the pace of the old style of playing isn’t there anymore We have A LOT of brand new mechanics and weapons that came out since Chapter 1 Sliding, Sprinting, Mantling, etc. Different guns, cosmetics, Mythics, it’s a lot. Reboot Royale and atlas was fun to play! Like really felt good playing those games. We’re just in a different time now and you can make the map as much as you want to, but you can’t recreate those same memories or keep up with the progress the game has made since chapter 1.

Honestly wish we could've had remakes to Chapter 2 and 3. Yes Epic has the right to not allow it. But if Chapter 1 maps can't be monetized, Chapter 2 and 3 can't be monetized too. Just my opinion, I understand the legal circumstances.

Epic : "fine,ill do it myself"

They got destroyed after the new season OG 😂😂

I love how Epic games was like: "You can make anything in UEFN!" "What about our favorite OG maps?" "Everything besides that."

I think it only makes it worse that the og island it back now

I enjoyed reboot it sucks you can't get past the spawn island I liked the graphics and the vibes it gave hopefully it gets a update soon

Chapter 4 Season 5 moment.

Idk why atlas got so big when reboot royale was so much better

They fell so fortnite og could walk

this aged well

The second I saw fortnite cut off payment to those maps I thought for sure og was coming back and I was right i guess

3:04 The Fall of 76 reference?

I love the reference to internet historian with the bugs section having the same music and style of delivery

they crying rn

shame the og season only lasted ONE WHOLE MONTH.

If you liked these maps, i recommend playing era fn, its actual og fortnite

They really did all that just for Fortnite to bring back the og map 😂

We won't need them anymore once the chapter 1 map comes back

im sure it also has a lot to do with the fact that playing the same thing with no changes gets boring (im looking at you, "they shouldve left the game in chapter 1" meat riders)

Epic games: Who needs fanmdmade Recreations when we can do it ourselfs?

With all the emphasis fortnite puts on creative mode, is there a single user created game that is like.. playable???

The OG heavy shotgun came back in the OG season which I'm happy about.

have you seen what discrace Atlas has become its become one of those clickbait og battleroyale pit mapsreally awful

Lol all I did was upload the map on twitter and suprisingly it blew up 8:27

The issue i have with people making their own battle royales within creative is that the queuing is ass compared to queuing up into solos, duos, trios, squads, and any competitive mode made by Epic. What i mean by that is you could have 8 people in ur party and load into a public match and team up on anyone who is actually playing solo. Before Ninja and them make their own BR if that still a thing Fortnite has to fix their queuing. Cause if we tried to have two people play solos it’ll say we have too many people in our party. Wish creative queuing was like that too.

Holy cow, I remember a lot of those bugs for Altas and reboot. I didn’t know they were actively fixing them though!! I agrue that it was because of the bugs that stopped me from playing that game mode. Likewise I’m a grown adult, I have life to tend to but id love to see a fully fleshed out OG map, with OG movement. I’d play that more than regular BR. I want to see an update video on what the reboot team is doing. Cheers!

Epic should’ve just been up front and said “yo don’t remake the chapter 1 map cuz we plan on doing it at the end of chapter 4…”

Its funny to see the maps when u realise that Fn themselves brought back the map now😂

It still annoys me to this day when they took sooo much time delaying creative 2.0, now I feel like I just have a tab of Roblox inside of Fortnite 😂

3:06 nice internet historian reference

tbh uefn should allow us to use all the classes and entities, and only block Account/quests related options because if you think about it, they are just items/entities, but they just restrict us like CR 1.0 if they don't give us more freedom (like custom items/cars etc) we can't really make unique experience's other than maps

Yet another thing i am still raging at epic for lately. I personally wanted chapter 2 map. They just point blank said no to ch2 and 3. Why couldn’t Epic have done these maps seeing as they owned the copyright, memory limits everything. They never wanted old maps to return in UEFN

It was Hyped way too much to be honest. Trying to bank on the feelings of longing for the past. I played the OG map a few games and after awhile I was like MMMHH 😐 I REMEMBER IT BEING A LOT BETTER BACK IN CHAPTER 1 I guess its good to reflect on the past but also willing to move on also. I also think most players moved on from OG themed maps too for the same reason

The real reason why they had their downfall is because of this reason, and this reason is the truth, I don’t really care what anyone says. Chapter 1 wasn’t as good as people say it was, it was the memories they want back. It was never the game itself that the people are nostalgic for, it’s the time they had with their friends. It wasn’t Fortnite’s prime, it was your prime.

Yeah, that was me asking reboot what they were working on, he said a while back that 3 weeks would be around the time he anounces the thing he was working on. Glad you saw the questions i asked him

The issue with Fortnite is that people can’t stop looking back on the past. Fortnite OG was fun without a doubt, but people keep looking for the same experience they had 6 years ago when in reality they’re never going to get that feeling again. As much as I loved chapter 1 the game needs to move on and if you don’t think that too you also need to move on.

The internet historian energy is immense

5:13 oh hey that’s me!

Then eventually, Og Fortnite comes back.

The real problem is people constantly searching for that 2017-2019 Fortnite vibe, but that's impossible. Even if Epic decides to release an official old version of the game, it would never be the same.

crazy how 9 months later we got exactly what we wanted

surprisingly, this aged very well! holy shit epic did something good this time. REBOOT ROYALE AVG W

The reason Reboots matches dont start is not the lack of players, rather the matches stopped working. This is Epic Games fault for not updating UEFN.

I really like this type of video, you should make more videos of this type

Just recently Atlas updated again, they added back Paradise Palms and that’s it. If you go into a reboot match and then go into replay mode, you can go to the island and see all the locations have been completely removed (and no it’s not because they aren’t rendering, as I myself have gone into replay and they render even on pause after a few seconds) so I think that Reboot had given up until they figure out a new system, which I find to be a shame as Reboot I found was WAYYYY more accurate, with the locations being 100% accurate to their OG counterparts. I don’t know, it just bothers me.

Epics fault. If epic let them bring in duo/trio/squad and an actually working storm circle and minimap and map, i think alot would been different

uefn is the future!!! uefn: grimacd vz skibidi toilet red vz blue

And then Fortnite did it themselves

I’m making the chapter 1 season 8 map, I think it’s going quite well

This really took a turn

Fortnite probably wanted to kill these maps so the could do there own later

And the OG map coming back cussed them to delete or completely rebrand the maps. I think fortnite also brought back OG so they could officially copyright it. Reboot is gone and Atlas was rebranded in OG Hero zone wars 💀

I had never heard of Reboot Royale. I found Atlas while looking around for anything to play. I literally exclusively play Atlas OG FN because the base game is so shit now. Atlas has a lot of things missing, a lot of which is outside of it's control. I've yet to play Reboot Royale, but it has ammo crates, which is something Atlas doesn't have. Edit: don't let this video fool you man, Atlas is super fucking good now in mid August 2023. They have done a lot to make it more and more accurate.

The reason I stopped playing it was because of how sweaty all the kids were that had likely never played on the old Island.

guys there is a new team trying to remake og fortnite and their name is Legacy Royale and its going pretty good imo

Great vid bro, did you watch The Engoodening of No mans sky by any chance? 😂

This aged badly

Prime example of being blinded by nostalgia there’s so much more to due in the current Fortnite yea is cool to reminisce but the fever doesn’t last long

well now we know what happened

half of the maps are Only Up and Red Vrs blue

3 months later we have og

The main reason these did not succeed is because of projects like FMOD, NOVA, and other third parties creating their own more accurate battle Royale.

Bro the hype for creative 2.0 was fucking crazy and seeing it now it’s not hyped and no one talks about it no more

Good video, some very similar editing to someone’s fallout 76 videos haha

Loved the video, was very thorough! I've been a viewer of your channel for a decent amount of time now, and really enjoy your content, but I've never considered commenting. I agree with all of the points you make in this video, everything you said was very accurate (especially with the creative jank, sadly). (GIANT TEXT BLOCK INCOMING, TL;DR AT THE END) One thing that I stand by and feel like people should realise is that you can't just bring back something that gives you nostalgia normally. One of the key reasons Fortnite is still alive to this day is its relentlessness with evolving. Epic Games have been technologically in the upper-ranks of game development (and even movie development in places) for quite a bit now. The Unreal Engine has constantly been getting better and better, and thus, so has Fortnite. Fortnite is really one of the big poster boys for Epic Games, and certainly seems like their go-to place to test out and implement new UE features. When watching live events, I've often felt they were more of a flex of new UE capabilities than actually trying to further the game. With Chapter 4s release, the graphics to me felt more like a "we're doing this because we can, not because we need to" kind of move. Not getting sidetracked, though, Fortnite wouldn't be alive if it wasn't for the constant upkeep of the game and introduction of fresh new content. Even if the content is bad, it helps the Fortnite KZfaq community still. But making a faithful recreation of the old Fortnite map and expecting it to survive-let alone THRIVE-for a considerable amount of time is just unrealistic. People came back, played it, got their nostalgia hit, and then had no reason to return. It's not getting constantly updated, you can't really revolutionise the video game industry with a giant technological leap in UEFN and have your map be the mascot for it. But the biggest reason that these maps didn't perform well is because they are recreations of the old Fortnite MAP, not the old Fortnite EXPERIENCE. They might seem the same if we're talking about creative, but the player base was extremely different back then in contrast to the current player base. As much as a UEFN creator can try to carve their own community standards and make their own skill ceiling and such, it will rarely be successful. When you look at it like that, It's pretty evident why Epic Games disallowed Chapter 2 and Chapter 3 remakes. They want a constant stream of fresh new content, not content that is already locked away in a vault and has run its course. If Fortnite never changed, it would not be alive, obviously. But it also wouldn't have as much of a nostalgia contrast. If it didn't change, how are there things to miss? How are there things to want to go back to? My point is: You can bring back things from the old times, but you'll never bring back the old times themselves. It's sad to see Epic supressing maps like these, and It's sad to see people move on so rapidly. I admire the work these creators put into these very accurate recreations of OG Fortnite, and wish that they could have profited more from it. But if this was indeed the future of creative, we would literally be living in the past. I'm sad that I didn't get to play Chapter 1 Fortnite; I joined in early Chapter 2. I hate sweats being everywhere, I dislike the seeming lack of ideas for new content that Epic Games seems to have, but these aren't things that can be changed. I'm very happy that you made this video, I've been looking for something like this for ages. I enjoyed every second of this video and agree with your points! Well, now that we've got the OG Map technically back, I just have to wait for people to stop complaining about the Pump Shotgun being vaulted as well 😭 Note: Sorry if this is a bit disjointed or not smooth to read, I've got lots of points that I'd like to make and not much vision on what categories they fall into, sooooo this is kind of just 50% a half-baked message about OG Fortnite remakes and 50% a rant about random things 😅 Rant aside, love the content! Keep it up ! TL;DR: You can bring back things from the old times, but you'll never bring back the old times themselves. Fortnite survives because of its constant upkeep and revolution in the video game industry, a UEFN experience just can't match that to the same level. I'm sad that these maps didn't succeed and that these creators didn't profit from it, although I understand Epic Games' POV. Love the content and thoroughly enjoyed this video! Keep it up !

Honestly, as someone who’s been using Creative since launch, UEFN itself was largely disappointing, outside of the Chapter 1 remake, the issue is that they cut off more than 50% of the creator playerbase with UEFN, which is understandable because console just can’t run it like a PC can, but still, it’s a fact, and the tool set currently still can’t make THAT much better maps than 1.0, it’s better sure, but barely, UEFN is still very barebones, besides that even months after UEFN launched, so far we’ve only seen one successful map, that being a remake of Only Up, an already terrible game 😂 So in my opinion nothing UEFN can deliver right now will propel Fort’ forward for at least the next two years, which at that point the dev tools will be great enough to create real proper experience, like an open world RPG for example, which is something Fort’ needs right now in my opinion, until then it’ll just continue to be copy and paste maps for a while

guys, this comment is not about the video. I want to say that as a fortnite player under the age of 18, I can't publish pretty awesome content, I have more than 5 maps in development that are comparable in scale to the maps released by epic-games after the launch of UEFN. Another most important fact is that it is impossible for underage players in UEFN to create maps together (all this can be read in the authors' portal)

Honestly, the chapter 1 maps were gonna fail bugs or not. People would eventually get bored with the same thing yk?

The thing is people over hype nostalgia for chapter 1 and ´´OG`` stuff. I get it those were hype times but reality is that the game wasn`t better or as good back then as it is now. (and yes i´ve played through all those OG times as well ) Most people go to maps like that play them a few times and then realize is not as fun is just nostalgia and go back to the new stuff. The future of creative 2.0 is in creating actually new experiences not trying to desperately go back to a rose tinted past.

The answers simple, everyone played it for a week to relive memories and got bored because they already have played the chapter 1 map for 2 years

To this on November 9 2023 7 months later reboot has still not posted anything

To me just remaking the old map is just boring I mean now it’s not that good due to size and the mechanics of nowadays not working on it

Atlas is removed, and Nobody plays Reboot anymore….

It's none of their faults it's epic's fault for not telling them plus this also sees how money hungry Atlas is dilly tried but as you said dilly couldn't because of the UEFN updates

As I'm making this comment Atlas Finally released something on their Tiktok talking about a new update they are releasing like adding the desert biome

This was a bit surreal to watch lol I didn't sleep very much the first week or so. Thanks for sharing it's good to see some coverage. Some good stuff coming soon :)

Epic really just needs to give us some way to play Chapter 1 without bugs and to the full experience we had in 2017-2018. I don’t want any of the season 9 or 10 stuff though.

Lol we don't need it now do we

i trust this man so much for the chapter 2 late game

Now we are getting it in battle Royale

My big problem with the game is discovery. It promotes the same maps day in and day out. Most of them are rip off’s of paid games like only up and gta. Also, don’t get me started on the whole red vs blue bull squash. It’s so lazy and it’s unfortunate that creators who are doing something CREATIVE have to be overshadowed by the same recycled game modes. It’s what is stopping me from playing because there’s no variety. Maybe I’m just burnt out on the game, but I feel things need to change to bring more people in. Realistically, how many people would want to invest in a game where there are a thousand tdm matches. Just my opinion.

I miss chapter 2 badly😢

At least we still have project nova until that gets taken down

Well those maps didn't age well