What Happened To The Jets!? & Will Rick Bowness Still be Their Head Coach Next Season? | SDP

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18 күн бұрын

Steve Dangle, Adam Wylde and Jesse Blake discuss the Winnipeg Jets losing to the Colorado Avalanche in 5 games. What went wrong? Is this Connor Hellebuyck's fault? Should the team move on from Rick Bowness?
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@soulknife20
@soulknife20 16 күн бұрын
The Jets played fine. They just weren't prepared for the buzzsaw that is the Avs. I wasn't worried that the Avs would lose this series. I was more concerned with how many goals they would need to score to overcome Georgiev's goaltending.
@10coolfacts
@10coolfacts 17 күн бұрын
Anyone who wants to blame injuries. Don't forget the Avs were without Drouin and Logan O'Connor. 2 Key pieces of that team.
@andysmith719
@andysmith719 16 күн бұрын
No love for the captain!?!?!
@RedRocket204
@RedRocket204 16 күн бұрын
@@andysmith719 AVS fans probably need to start coming to the reality that Landy may not be coming back. I really hope I'm wrong.
@andysmith719
@andysmith719 16 күн бұрын
@RedRocket204 he's not coming back. I just think his name should be mentioned when we brag about how good we are despite our injured players 😃😃😃
@lincolndepagnier360
@lincolndepagnier360 17 күн бұрын
Saying Hellebuck diden't play well becuse of his save% is pretty silly. Watch the goals that were scored. Hellebuck wasn't bad the AVS just score against anyone. Also a ton of pp goals on on dumb penalties.
@neutralsportsfan17
@neutralsportsfan17 15 күн бұрын
Ok he has the worst goals saved above expected of any goalie in the playoffs. Better? Lol
@lincolndepagnier360
@lincolndepagnier360 15 күн бұрын
@@neutralsportsfan17 advanced stats guy lol.
@woahcrash
@woahcrash 15 күн бұрын
horrendous advanced stats 2nd worst SV% vs unblocked low danger attempts above expected 5th worst SV% vs unlocked medium danger attempts above expected 2nd worst in SV% above expected DEAD LAST in WAR
@lincolndepagnier360
@lincolndepagnier360 15 күн бұрын
@@woahcrash the thing about advanced stats is that you can always find one that supports whatever view you want to have. Also who grades chances as "high danger" or "Expected goals". Like where do these come from?
@skyborne80
@skyborne80 17 күн бұрын
The Avalanche are a scary team. Can you imagine if Gabriel Landeskog hadn't been injured for the last 2 years?!
@LaurenHairston
@LaurenHairston 17 күн бұрын
Not to take anything away from Hellebuyck, but Brossoit is also an amazing goalie. My husband and I have been asking ourselves all season why the Jets don’t play Brossoit even just a little bit more. Not because Hellebuyck sucks, because he doesn’t. But because rest is so important! (Especially in your 30s with little kids.) Brossoit barely plays and he got 3 shutouts this season. On 23 games! His GAA this season was 2.00. I think a lot of that is because he doesn’t have to do it every night. I’ve also been frustrated by the coaching team not adapting to what does and doesn’t work and the absolute trash power play all season. Obviously I don’t know what goes on behind the scenes, but several players mentioned the same thing in their pressers. It’s been so sad to watch how good the Jets could be this season and then see none of that in the playoffs. I’d also just like to rant a bit about how Pionk played every single game and Perfetti was out for a really long time AND we got Miller from the Devils and just benched him. Also, let Nikolaj Ehlers do his thing! One more thing-I know we don’t have the big star forwards like Matthews or McDavid or MacKinnon but I like that our goals are more democratically distributed. That’s one of the biggest reasons I love this team.
@The_Card_Place
@The_Card_Place 17 күн бұрын
Brossoit is way more agile and fast . And gets up alot quicker. Once helly goes down it’s hard for him. To recover
@meagainandagain5756
@meagainandagain5756 15 күн бұрын
@@The_Card_PlaceNo.
@danschick4135
@danschick4135 17 күн бұрын
Go Avalanche! Let's get our fourth Stanley Cup!
@andremorissette6896
@andremorissette6896 15 күн бұрын
Go Nordiques Go
@douglasberggren7667
@douglasberggren7667 17 күн бұрын
is a reverse sweep not coming back from a 0-3 to win the series? not going 4-0 after losing just one game?
@red3here
@red3here 17 күн бұрын
Yes.
@crenwrites
@crenwrites 17 күн бұрын
He meant to say Gentlemen's Sweep
@christyouredumb956
@christyouredumb956 17 күн бұрын
@@crenwritesgentleman’s sweep is Win 3 lose game 4 win game 5
@crenwrites
@crenwrites 17 күн бұрын
A Google of "gentlemens sweep" disagrees with your interpretation
@lowtierduster-7254
@lowtierduster-7254 16 күн бұрын
@@christyouredumb956no a gentlemen’s sweep is when one team wins g1 and the other team proceeds to win the next four consecutively
@takaokita4954
@takaokita4954 17 күн бұрын
This series reminded me of Oilers vs Flames from 22 playoffs. Just like the Oilers lost game1 but completely broke Markstrom. Avs lost game1 but absolutely destroyed Hellyebuck.
@marie2274
@marie2274 17 күн бұрын
It doesn't surprise me you guys picked the Jets. You forgot about playoffs MacKinnon, the rest. Bowness was out-coached by Bednar. I saw Bednar made adjustments after game 1, Bowness didn't even the players admitted that. Producer Drew picking Jets in 5, how does he feel now. I'm questioning his loyalty to the Avs.. 😉
@LaurenHairston
@LaurenHairston 17 күн бұрын
I don’t know why Bowness seems to refuse to look at what works and what doesn’t and make adjustments. So aggravating to watch!
@marie2274
@marie2274 17 күн бұрын
​@@LaurenHairstonNot sure either if the Jets made adjustments the team didn't follow them or he resorted back to his original game plan.
@Mylife4hockey
@Mylife4hockey 17 күн бұрын
The jets have, a boat load of super talented young players... Henoila,Sollomonns on D. Lambert,Magroaty,Perfetti, Chibrikov, Barlow that will be used as ether potential spots to take over position in top 9 or bring in big players.... so gong forward it' won't be running it back with the same group it will be fast acting and aggressive. When Chevy signed Schief and hellaybuck is was a un spoken conversation of we're winning the cup whay ever it takes.....
@oozyalmond7079
@oozyalmond7079 16 күн бұрын
yeah until schief and helle contracts are done, we have to compete every year
@jamesruscheinski8602
@jamesruscheinski8602 17 күн бұрын
did goaltender Hellyebuck wear down by time playoffs start? Colorado goaltender Georgiev wore out some during season, was platooned with Anunen the last few weeks of season, then resurged in playoffs?
@RedRocket204
@RedRocket204 16 күн бұрын
Dangle, awesome to hear what you said about the AVS trade deadline adds. The run the AVS had after the trade deadline should have been what the league recognized as which AVS team could possibly show up for playoffs. Seems most underestimated the AVS and only paid attention to the last 9 games the AVS played of the season. I'm not going to sit here and say the AVS backed off during the last 9 games, as home ice advantage going in against the Jets would have been huge, but I'm equally conflicted about what actually went down at the end of the season. Credit to the AVS coaching staff for the first round, dominating win.
@tophercabba
@tophercabba 16 күн бұрын
jets are the first team to allow 5 plus goals in 5 playoff games ? well then arnt the avs the only ones to score 5 plusin the first 5 games lmao like da faq lol
@84knucks05
@84knucks05 16 күн бұрын
The jets setting the record for the first team to allow 5+ goals in 1st 5 playoff games... Nobody saying that the avs set the record for scoring 5+ goals in their 1st 5 playoff games
@Actionronnie
@Actionronnie 13 күн бұрын
Here's a question, do these stupid start times for broadcasting effect a players routine? The Jets actually played their home games on Colorado time. As a fan I just really didn't get into the home games like I should have. During the regular season, these home games would have been half way over with a 7pm start time instead of 8:30 pm. It was just a thought, cause start times could be a part of home ice advantage. And I'm saying the outcome would've been different, just central time teams and fans I feel are getting a little screwed over.
@Slidezy
@Slidezy 15 күн бұрын
I had the avs all the way. I'm not an avalanche fan but they just have such an advantage in terms of team matchup. Like you get the Winnipeg side, you have good skaters and a great goalie and on the Avalanche side, you have a great defense and a great offense. When a team can't produce enough pressure to stop another team from selecting shots and that team can shoot through a screen, the goalie doesn't matter. You could have had any goalie in the league playing with the Jets and if you have McKinnon and my car with space shooting through screens without pressure that goalie has no chance. To me. It was a really bad matchup for Winnipeg. If I'm Winnipeg, the teams I wouldn't want to match in the first round are Colorado and Florida
@John-vp2jq
@John-vp2jq 16 күн бұрын
I think the Jets series was less a matter of Hellebuyck playing poorly, because I really don't think he did, and more a matter of the Jets defense simply being unable to match the Avalanche's stepped-up intensity on offense. Hellebuyck made many excellent saves, but the Avalanche just kept coming.
@jordanstreib3898
@jordanstreib3898 17 күн бұрын
First off Monahan/Toffoli/Miller were waste of picks we could have floated into playoffs without them and locker clean out interviews you can tell are leaving. Brossoit earned starter somewhere,Dillon wasn't happy says wants to win,Hellebuyck seemed like if team has one more season lile this he could ask out. Demelo said he has a family likes it here and wants to stay. The jets need to trade Ehlers for a top 2 dman or get a 1b center examples Sanheim,provorov,Romanov, or take chance younger guy. And centers like Reinhart,Kadri,Horvat,Barzal types I'm not sold Lindholm/Guentzel. Become more top heavy and quit giving AHL players NHL time The last 3 years we haven't been pushing prospects into NHL like Heinola,Chisholm,Lambert,Chibrikov,Lucius,Mcgroarty,Barlow,Salmonsson,Milic.
@jamesruscheinski8602
@jamesruscheinski8602 17 күн бұрын
maybe try Toffoli on top line with Scheiffele and Connor? then Vilardi on second line with Monahan and Ehlers?
@LaurenHairston
@LaurenHairston 17 күн бұрын
Obviously I don’t know what will happen, but in his interview yesterday, Toffoli sounded completely uninterested in staying with Winnipeg.
@rohan5150
@rohan5150 16 күн бұрын
Toffoli was a complete ghost in the series.
@tophercabba
@tophercabba 16 күн бұрын
i find it crazy aswell the 2nd round starts monday , with 1 possibly 3 series going 7 games in the first round like wtf this isnt the bubble
@djcrouton2680
@djcrouton2680 16 күн бұрын
This was a year where they really should have dropped Hellebuyck down to like 55 games. Broissoit was great this season, there’s no point to run your starter into the ground. The rest of the team was a bigger issue than he was but still, this was only round 1. If they were hoping to go deep that would be like another month of hockey.
@thefinaldispatch
@thefinaldispatch 16 күн бұрын
Trading Ehlers and Pionk would free up $12 million to get an unreal defensemen if one was available and willing to play in the peg. I have no idea who that would be though
@sandwichtube
@sandwichtube 16 күн бұрын
In every playoff game it’s the same. They try too hard and stop doing what they did in the regular season.
@Tiax776
@Tiax776 16 күн бұрын
The Jets need to pull their goalie.
@Cajanek026
@Cajanek026 17 күн бұрын
Hellebuyck was overworked in the regular season and it made the Jets Defense look much better that it actually is. Morrissey is the only one who showed up for the the playoffs - everyone else got absolutely fried
@brucebanner2222
@brucebanner2222 16 күн бұрын
I would want my startinh goaltender to play max 65 starts a season. 60 would be better. And 22 for the backup. No point of overworking your starting goaltender unless the backup is horroble.
@jamesruscheinski8602
@jamesruscheinski8602 17 күн бұрын
do the Winnipeg Jets rely too much on goaltender?
@jamesruscheinski8602
@jamesruscheinski8602 16 күн бұрын
acquire second pair two way defenseman?
@millionfish
@millionfish 16 күн бұрын
Hellebyuck wasn't the issue. It was Bowness and Winnipeg putting all of their eggs in one basket by extending Scheifele. Scheifele is good, but he's not elite. Monahan and Toffoli also did barely anything.
@kdmorgan4479
@kdmorgan4479 17 күн бұрын
It was a strange series, it would be tied 2-2 or Jets up 2-1 in 2nd or 3rd, when the floodgates would open. The jets would a) make entirely uncharacteristic giveaways behind the net, and bad line changes (Game 2); take 5 straight penalties in the third in the offensive zone, or puck over glass (Game 3); not show up at all, more bad penalties, and not make the check on Makar who was lined up, coming down the ice (Game 4); ugly own goal and odd man rushes for Mackinnon line in the 3rd when facing elimination after doing a reasonably good job of avoiding that the whole series (Game 5). There was an odd tendency to not get the puck on Georgiev who everyone suspected was the weakest link for the Avs, except in game 1. The jets played their worst hockey of the year in my opinion
@scottwill19
@scottwill19 16 күн бұрын
Jets didn’t have the best defense. It was propped up by Hellebuyck’s goaltending.
@dereknicolson1277
@dereknicolson1277 17 күн бұрын
Winnipeg is pepetually stuck in the middle. They do not want to do a rebuild with their young talent as ownership is worried about fan support (even when they were in 1st). They have 1 great defenseman and 2 solid ones (Demelo/ Dillon) and then they have $12 million tied up in Pionk and Schmidt for next year. Perfetti was on a solid track but did not dress until game 5? You have to give young talent time to grow but also expose them to real NHL time to find out if they will make it or not.
@UncleRosie
@UncleRosie 17 күн бұрын
It’s not so much that the Jets played poorly ( definitely not well enough), it’s more that Colorado is a steamroller wagon that’s gonna take the cup.
@briannorman7415
@briannorman7415 17 күн бұрын
If Bowness goes I think Chevy has to go too. Cannot let him hire the next coach.
@kajpirinen1831
@kajpirinen1831 16 күн бұрын
It could be good to sell Mark Scheifele and Blake Wheeler or change them for some other players and build New Winnepeg Jets team surround other players finally.
@karlmanchur9906
@karlmanchur9906 16 күн бұрын
Wheeler got bought out and currently plays for the Rangers
@chrisbelos2834
@chrisbelos2834 17 күн бұрын
he just got nominated for the jack adams what are you guys talking about?
@AbortedFeti
@AbortedFeti 17 күн бұрын
Stop being dense. The Jack Adams is a regular season award which is why, despite winning 2 sups and 3 straight finals appearances, Jon Cooper has never won it. I guess if the Jets just wanna be a good regular season team every year then keep him. But he's too stubborn in his systems and lineups to ever get it done in the playoffs. Colorado got embarrassed in game 1 and made adjustments. Jets did literally nothing and not once looked competitive from game 2 onwards. So you can either believe the Jets have forgotten how to play hockey in the post season 2 years in a row, or that Bowness is a dinosaur incapable of adapting.
@TheLeftwing71
@TheLeftwing71 16 күн бұрын
Bones is done. He's not coming back. Scott will be the Head coach.
@colink638
@colink638 16 күн бұрын
Sign Scotty ..... wernt we like 10 - 2 Under Scottie ?
@justinreid1986
@justinreid1986 16 күн бұрын
Pionk is trash, Connor defensively is absolutely embarrassing and let’s get serious, Demelo as a first pairing defensemen is silly
@The_Card_Place
@The_Card_Place 17 күн бұрын
My Jets got cooked lol . Helly looked weak tbh
@alexkatsanos8475
@alexkatsanos8475 17 күн бұрын
Jets get better…dont fire coach.
@SugarHillSleep
@SugarHillSleep 17 күн бұрын
Absolutely putrid performance same stuff different year
@Perfectlyhonest22
@Perfectlyhonest22 17 күн бұрын
Bowness has to go
@user-by3nd4rm6c
@user-by3nd4rm6c 15 күн бұрын
If he does, it will be on his own terms most likely
@mcloggerton9185
@mcloggerton9185 17 күн бұрын
This is the laziest take I have seen. Embarrassing. You didn't even watch the games. The AVS ran over the jets. They barely got into the AVS zone and when they did it was from the perimeter. This is a stats review. Didn't even watch the game. You guys are a joke. Just review the leafs
@Steve-bi4ej
@Steve-bi4ej 16 күн бұрын
Nothing "happened". They just got exposed as a fake contender. They were never that team.
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