you're technically right

haha underrated comment

Ha! 🤣

I say bank angle when I’m going around a tight bend!

@@robsmithracing lmao I do that too

Yeah :D "If this ever happens to you... do this and that" haha

i guess he's doing this for future airline pilots...

If there is a 100.000:1 Chance for every viewer to ever sit in a cockpit, then there are at least 7 people who watched the video that should remember...

To be fair, it's not like I haven't tried to do this in a flight simulator.

Last flight before retirement :p

yaa thats my flight in xplane when demo mode ends.

A proper 1G roll would be barely noticeable. Might be a bit shaky, but everything stays roughly where it is.

@@HappyBeezerStudios Actually if you think about it, a "proper" 1G roll technically varies up to as much as 2G on the airplane itself. In order for you to feel 1G through the floor of the airplane while fully inverted you'd need to be doing 2G to counteract the force of gravity. Sure you can make it "feel" like gravity spins with you but the plane has to tolerate twice that. A true 1G roll in terms of the aircraft would have you feeling weightless when you're inverted.

@@HappyBeezerStudios I disagree. If anyone had their windows open, seeing the horizon corkscrew around, invert, and hopefully un-invert all in the absence of horizontal force would be terrifying. If you were more slowly rolled, the feeling of dangling by your seatbelt would at least feel like the plane was being supported on its current heading. It would be nauseating as your inner ear would be telling you (quite rightly) that you were accelerating at insane speeds in an uncontrolled way directly at the ground, coupled with presumably freaky shuddering and groaning as all manner of structural and aerodynamic chaos was happening to the airframe around you. I'm thinking people would be passing out and vomiting immediately.

I thought of something like the inverted 707

Rip sky king

Fly high sky king

Some heroes don't wear capes.

None of these popular aircraft channels have went over that flight. Maybe it was only a big story because I live in Seattle, but I'd like to see a breakdown of that flight. I mean it looked like he skimmed the water just about coming out of his maneuvers. I get they probably don't want to give attention to such a stunt, but that flight still fascinates me all these years later.

@@PowerScissor It's been a while, but I have watched YT video that did a breakdown on the Horizon/Alaska flight.

That doesn't seem very steep for me

@@spacemapper1127 congrats bro

Draw a circle, draw a 30 degree bank angle in it, hold it up and see if it matches what you're experiencing.

I agree. When all you can see through your window is ground or sky, you have no good basis for comparison, as you don't have a horizon to compare to. They hog all the horizon up in the cockpit.

why does being in the back matter in a roll?

Nimrod is hardly an airliner

@@testboga5991 It is the size of one.

@@testboga5991The airframe of the Nimrod is based on an airliner, the first jet airliner in fact. Nimrod is a heavily modified version of the De Havilland Comet in fact.

Thank you for your service!

They also stuffed one into Toronto harbour when they tried it at too slow an airspeed.

They like " don't do it"

Dang, I swear I kept hearing from the Airliner's flight deck, "annnt- must roll- annnt- must roll- annnt- must roll...

That because the flight computer ejected just after it said "you're on your own now, cowboy!"

So when they download the Flight Data it will have deniability. 🙄

The man has four stripes. If he can make a video on it, that means he can as he pleases

Captain Murilo unfortunately passed away August 26, 2020

Wow!! 😯

Would love a final report on that by mentor pilot.

We need a movie on THIS!!! This sounds wild!

You only lost about 1000ft :-) Wow!

Whatever

I would pay the pilot to do some air show rolls.

Lol, more like you'll fly one more time...

You'd eventually probably spill your soda, unless the pilot maintains inertia for gravity.

@@kaneo1 And that is exactly what that bloody experienced and talented Boeing 707 test pilot did. Textbook roll. Load factor one, and perfectly coordinated. How many pilots are cleared to do that in an airliner? One? Two?

You must be new to mentour pilot

@@SomeNot Nah. It was rhetorical

Just look for the huge white rabbit, Dorothy; he will escort you back thru the Looking Glass... *

Aaaah... reminds me of the old days of the internet.

the dimension where KZfaq is a normal place. actually sometimes happens in our dimension as well

I've got the Antonov 225 in my yard. My A380-800 is on back order.

I’ll lend you mine A380 but I doubt it’ll fit in your home.

Is this Emirates, Qatar and Ethiad meetings on whose buying whose 380's

@@v2snake Lufthansa wants to get in on this conversation

You should get the C5 galaxy. I tried it with a 100Ton load had to reorganize the apache helicopter and the M1 i was carrying. Sort of a messy job. Also a crew member accidentally dropped a grenade while holding it by the pin when we rolled over. It wasn't a good day at the backyard.

There is no truth in the rumour that Mentour Pilot gets his hair transplants from the dog!

You must have given dog some cat nip. Its the liveliest I've seen him.

hes permanently banked on the couch

How does a commercial airline pilot have a dog? Aren't you away from home most of the year? Who takes care of it daily?

@@anathardayaldar Look at the pictures in the background, I'll let you figure out the rest :)

Every commercial flight in good weather should come with a nice 70° bank at some point. Bring back the fun in flying commercial.

Excellent! That’s the way to do it! Good stuff.

@@MentourPilot many many thanks to you for sharing this lifehack!

You landed and didn’t die??

@@MentourPilot will it work for every company? :)

Really? I'm gonna take three flights with Ryanair this january, i'll give it a shot! :D Can you point me to the vid btw please?

The answer I came for. Thanks for saving me 25 mins.

that was Tex Johnson

@@ranchrods1 I’m sorry but I don’t know his name. Apparently the chief pilot called him into the office and told him rather drily not to do it ‘anymore.’ 😉

In Germany Werner Baake did the same twice with the Boeing 720 D-ABOP near Ansbach. But he did it on the second atempt wrong, overloaded the airframe and the plane disintegrated midair, killing everybody onboard... "Ladys and gentlemen, if you look out the window you can see that the ground is above and the sky beneath you. Enjoy that flight..."

Sky King did that too in Seattle with zero training.

Can't imagine that being good for the structural integrity of the rudder at that size of plane.

I wondered about this too, he doesn't mention top rudder input during the high bank maneuver to keep the nose up. An Airbus lost a vertical stab and rudder and crashed due to overly aggressive rudder input by the co-pilot, so maybe there is a structural risk to the tail in aircraft of a certain size when using the rudder/v stab this way.

At the size of the 737, rudder wouldn’t provide anywhere near enough lift.

Speaking of ww2 fighters…. I had the immense pleasure of flying in a AT-6 trainer fighter…and amongst other things, I did the peel off you see in movies when there’s a squadron of planes needing to dive bomb (forget actual term)…. And it stays 1g all the time… ie youd never know your on such a steep angle

Yes he said & remember he was chief test pilot at that time, that it was a 1g from memory.

"What are you doing?" "Selling planes." "Okay....let's never do that again, tho, okay??"

It's not well known but rolling the 707 was practiced, I think the day before, on a test flight over the Olympic Peninsula. It wasn't a hazardous impulsive act. Johnson had already done it as testing the flight characteristics of the plane. He knew before showing off over Sea Fair that it was a safe maneuver for the plane. I would love to have been there but was only 7 yo and living in NC at the heyday of Sea Fair and the hydroplane boat races.

I think the issue was that Boeing didn’t want to freak out the public who would be flying in the plane when it entered service. Most modern commercial jets should be able to perform a barrel roll in level flight without any problems. I believe the Alaska Air plane (an MD 80, Flt 261) that crashed off of California attempted, and may have succeeded for time, to fly inverted.

Johnston....Johnston...

Best answer of all time.

@Michael The American Patriot : No, Tex Johnston didn't do an aileron roll, he did a barrel roll. It is very different. A barrel roll is a +1G maneuver, an aileron roll is a +1/-1G maneuver (at least).

@@PeterPan-iz1kk I stand corrected, bottom line is, the ailerons are used in both maneuvers.

I was here to comment that too! The Flight Channel simulation of that was one of the most depressing videos I’ve ever seen. RIP those brave pilots and the passengers.

Should we add one?

@@MentourPilot i suppose so

Thank you for your excellent feedback, the answer is, yes. I could teach you to fly without explaining the theory behind. The problem would come when you need to do something I haven’t shown you, that’s where knowledge is important,

He is a military pilot as well, and they learn it wery good!

Piers Trindal I’m an amateur pilot and I never think about what the ailerons or rudders are doing. However, when wing tipping (because the instructor wants you to), you gotta push the rudder in the direction you’re tipping,which intuitively would make you think you’re steering yourself into the ground!

@@MentourPilot You're brilliant. Not just any pilot will come and explain all these things about being a pilot and enjoy it too, but I think you might be wrong about one thing. There was once not too long ago a tv program series which tells the true stories of plain crashes, the pilots who flew them, from take off till point of failure, what the cause was and when contact was lost and who were on board. They get the info on the black boxes and the controller(s) who had contact with them. They actors play the rolls of what happened and the true evidence get shown on video clips and photos as well as pictures of the real pilots who died. Two pilots who flew an A320 had to come in for landing but the ground below had a lot high rocky mountains and the airport was on the other side. They were already too low and had to work their way through the mountains and thus had make a lot of sudden fast steep turns to avoid crash into the mountains. Both pilots fought for all the lives on board when the pilots saw an opening in the mountain which the turn that to make to the left caused the plane role over a complete 90 degrees. They had to get the plane upright immediately so completed the role as soon as they could and made it through the mountains to the runway. It was only because they were lower than they should have been. They were supposed to come over the mountains.

@@Pantbera, the actors play the 'roles', not 'rolls'. The plane 'rolls', it does not 'role'. But I give it to you that you were perfectly logical in that inversion.

Nichales Price kk

@@ha6590 kkk

HAve you continued flying? It is very safe, fast and can be a fun experience!

Well, you’re not alone my friend. While flying doesn’t actually terrify me, it does make me nervous and anxious. You guys know that cockpit voice warning that says “terrain ahead, terrain ahead, pull up, pull up,” yes? Well some of my instincts are convinced flying is both dangerous and unnatural despite the evidence otherwise. So when I approach and aircraft I intend to board and ride on I have the biological version of “aircraft ahead, aircraft ahead, turn back, turn back.” 😄 The difference is that I can override its objections, board, sit, belt up and stay quiet for the entire flight. It is unpleasant though as I’m so on edge with white knuckle syndrome, I’m probably going to leave finger shaped grooves in the seats somewhere. 😉

Jeffrey Powell well said, I watch Mentor because it eases my flying fear. I have no intention of getting my PPL

Just for completion, most airbus aircrafts and the larger aircrafts, like the Boeing 747 do not have a cable connection to the ailerons (they have for the THS (trimmable horizontal stabilizer) though. Instead they are controlled by electric signals and have one or more additional hydraulic systems that will work/start operating if the engines would fail.

Jeffrey, I’m glad watching these videos ease your “white knuckle syndrome” when flying. I probably have a pretty good idea of how you felt. I seem to have some instinct deep inside that doesn’t like flying. It’s like… ah you’ve heard the “terrain ahead, terrain ahead, pull up, pull up” warning in these videos? Well, when I’m approaching an airplane I actually intend to ride on, I’m pretty much experiencing. “Aircraft ahead, aircraft ahead, turn back, turn back.” I suppose it’s not all bad, because I can override it and make myself board, sit, put the seatbelt on and stay quiet for the entire flight. It’s not pleasant but I’m usually okay due to a couple things I’ve worked out from previous experience, such as not sitting near the windows. Seeing clouds below me along with traces of ice outside reminds me of my situation-crammed into a big pressurised metal tube with wings and engines so high and fast that if anything goes wrong we’re toast. Probably quite literally given the tendency of aircrafts to burn once they crash. And the reminder ramps up the anxiety lurking in the background. Granted during my first ever flight at thirteen years old I was experiencing bouts of vertigo anyway, but looking out the window finished the job and I ended up making good use of a sick bag. The other trick is to get a seat where I can observe the cabin crew for most of the flight. Again from my first flight I got spooked during landing when the reversers deployed. But somehow I remembered to look at the flight attendants in their seats and my fellow passengers and when I saw everyone completely unphased and almost bored I concluded that whatever this ungodly noise was, it was normal. It took me a little bit longer to come to the obvious conclusion. But the theory is still sound. Pay attention to the flight attendants if you can. They’re not professional actors so it’s probably not a stretch to think that if there is a real problem even if they try to hide it so as not to panic all these people crammed aboard a pressurised metal tube with wings, they’re still going to give off little tells of fear or stress that being in a life threatening situation inevitably leads to. Other passengers? Not so reliable. But for when the day comes that I have to fly again, because at least there are a few places I’d really like to visit someday I have a new plan. A foolproof plan if I can get my GP to agree. Medication. There’s got to be something out there that can silence my inner aircraft warning for good, and maybe even achieve that mythical “pleasant ride” mentioned just after the three minute mark in this video. 😁

@@mikoto7693 the "if anything goes wrong we're toast" actually is far from true. If anything, watching this channel has taught me how much really must go wrong for anything bad to happen. It's usually at least 4 or 5 failures all at once to cause anything really bad.

They are never happy anyway :)

plenty of complaints will be coming up if you did that..might not fly again commercially after that

They’re gonna sue the pilot’s ass.

@@ItsJustMeMusic they will become Uber driver after that....

If you do it right then you maintain 1G and nobody would even notice unless they looked out of the window.

Not a clue what he's talking about half the time but I'm at least 20 episodes down.

@@dncrht I thought he was at 10k, not 14 !

So, with that aircraft -weight, speed etc.- a safe roll recovery as shown will require about 5k feet to recover without over-stressing the aircraft. Performing a proper barrel-roll, and maintaining 1G, should not over stress the aircraft, but that would be an intentional manuever. It could be done, but the pilot would soon be looking for another job.

@@millomweb The roll started at 14,000. (Look at the altitude on the right hand side.)

@@therealax6 I'd only glanced at the altimeter part way through :) Having wound back to the start of the roll yes, it was 14k :) It wasn't a very good roll, was it ! No need to lose that altitude - he let the nose drop.

@@millomweb Look at the speed (stall speed and over speed) indicators. This is probably as good a roll as this plane is capable of. As pointed out several times, the controlled barrel roll is a completely different manuever.

That structural overload is a real thing. You get to survive to lose your job - if you're lucky.

@@Lucien86 Not really, yeah might be unpleasant in the passenger seat, but the aircraft will be just fine. The safety factor is more than 1. The B707 test pilot even did a barrel roll with it. B747 was tested at mach .99, but never ever goes that fast normally.

@@janosmucha4897 I'm sure you're right. But in a structure that big physics is always against it and rolling puts some very abnormal loads on the airframe & wings. Heavily laden, full of fuel, and maybe 10 + years old, not quite so confident.

You Will have an appointment with the Wind Commander for sure.

World is boring.

You just got me to look that up. It's quite an interesting story on Wikipedia. The perp got two consecutive life sentences. The crew he injured with his hammer were still not medically certified to fly ten years after.

I was expecting that to be mentioned in the video.

I don't think he quite managed a full inversion but he did get it to about 140 degrees. I think first he put it into a crazy steep climb to try and throw the hijacker backwards out the cockpit door.

Can anyone link the Wikipedia article?

full video simulation

or "both of our pilots are dead, is anyone FSX:SE certified in here?"

@@ibis8566 that works.

ö. . , LOL!

This thought passed through my mind not even 2 minutes ago 😂😂

Capt Joe agrees

That was no barrel roll.

Haha, thats the only way to calm people down after such an incident :D

Hahahahaha!!!!!

I hate to be that guy and I’m sorry, but it’s called an Aileron roll..

"This is the captain speaking. Nothing to worry about, I just needed to put in my eyedrops."

Best of luck!

There's a replay flight-sim of that with cockpit audio and subtitles telling the story somewhere here on youtube, just watched it recently. I'm sure you saw the same vid. Scary shit, what a dick, almost taking 2 innocent guys with him for his selfish reasons. Super intense video.

kilmer009 I think it was 3. The cockpit had 3 pilots. Unfortunately, all three of them sustained injuries such that they will never be able to fly again.

@@XPlaneAviation - One man did continue flying IIRC.

@@bruzote Privately, in his own plane. He could never get his ATP back due to the injuries. There were 2 pilots and a flight engineer on board.

yo just punch them in the face instead of doing acribatics.why are these pilots so dumb?

@I am not a bot I’m a real boy - That incident results in a posthumous award for both pilots. They kept their cool. It's so unfair they did everything they could do and still perished.

“BANK ANGLE, BANK ANGLE” “Yeah yeah, fookin computers telling me what to do…”

My stomach would not have been pleased 🤑

@@marcomontanarini1836 It's a hell of a ride on a Boeing 777, I'll tell ya!

Notice the balls have a dull finish. Cats love to destroy the shiny glass ones.

Kill and eat the kitten. Enjoy your tree. I love trees too much to cut them down.

If you anchor the tree, it should be fine. We used to have cats in my family and we'd use some nails and fishing wire to stop the tree from falling. They'll still play with ornaments and try to climb, but it should keep the tree up.

Poor dog is stressed out. It's been a ruff day of breathing. Lol

Get a poodle.

Excellent! I’m happy you think so!

18:24 Successfully rolls the aircraft. Legend.

EveryTypeOfVideo Legendary 🤓

@@Menstral - Not only that, afterwards immediately levels it up to 10K ft

superdupergrover - Johnston

Aviate > Navigate > Communicate

@@DaedalusYoung Yes, I know. I was just joking and referring to how much pilots like to chat.

Thank you! Glad you liked it!

Thank you for clarifyling this. I was thinking that why the hell the red bars were appearing at higher speed, which of course in case of a stall, would appear at a lower speed.

Cessna 152 is definitely not designed for acrobatics like that. you need a low winged aircraft with relatively symmetrical airfoils I believe. Think WW2 fighters. A high wing aircraft like a Cessna 152 has its center of mass below the wing, so it will naturally tend to stay in level flight (hang below the wing). Low wing aircraft like a P51 Mustang give up stability for maneuverability in flight and are thus more able to do things like rolls.

yea that guy was a legend

Seemed like with this airframe the aerodynamics weren't there to pull that off? Right after he passed 60deg bank it started more of a dive then recovery vs a roll.

@@rodnabors7364 Once you get past 90 degrees, you need to push to low but still positive gee. This will reduce the downward acceleration a lot. Airliners have excellent L/D and adequate roll rate to do an aileron roll, but most airline pilots don't have much experience with doing aileron rolls. Rick Searfoss, XCOR's NASA surplus astronaut as I called him, could do an aileron roll in a rocket-powered plane without unporting the propellant feed lines. I know this because I was sitting next to him when he did it :) We got real light in the seats as we went over the top.

Those Boeing engineers were joking, right? Tex Johnson could get away with rolling a 707 back in the day, but I doubt anyone else would ever have the clout to get away with risking a 747 in the same way. That said, it would be absolutely spectacular to see something like that if anyone ever had the guts to do it.

Boeing really did it. Full cockpit crew and multiple engineers on board. Took the 747 to its max altitude, pointed it straight down, firewalled the engines. When the pilots thought they had enough speed, they pulled back on the yoke as hard as they could. In the process of successfully completing the loop, they did bend the hell out of the wings. They did land the plane, noticeably worse for wear.