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Darrell Braun Guitar

Darrell Braun Guitar

3 жыл бұрын

These tuners are Crazy...Let's put them on my Strat!
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@DarrellBraunGuitar
@DarrellBraunGuitar 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for tuning in 😁😁😁
@thomasferguson6726
@thomasferguson6726 3 жыл бұрын
Part of me wants to press dislike on this comment.
@zylavormusic2616
@zylavormusic2616 3 жыл бұрын
It is our pleasure!
@Haunteed
@Haunteed 3 жыл бұрын
Of course Darrell
@johnsee7269
@johnsee7269 3 жыл бұрын
LOL
@GregHilmes
@GregHilmes 3 жыл бұрын
Happy to *drop* in, glad the door was *open*
@haleyconant
@haleyconant 3 жыл бұрын
The way Darrell can slip jabs in while still speaking like it's a compliment. He's approaching mother-in-law skill levels.
@molochsorcery4357
@molochsorcery4357 3 жыл бұрын
AND without them having to be only during a holiday dinner.
@toemasmeems
@toemasmeems 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha
@victormarinelli5660
@victormarinelli5660 3 жыл бұрын
LOL
@nicksmithworld
@nicksmithworld 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha!
@wesleyalan9179
@wesleyalan9179 3 жыл бұрын
Lol!
@journeymanfrosty8895
@journeymanfrosty8895 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like these are a solution to a problem no one has.
@Peasmouldia
@Peasmouldia 3 жыл бұрын
Plus, you're going to need a deeper guitar case...
@bodijisattva9333
@bodijisattva9333 3 жыл бұрын
That's what I was pondering, I just couldn't put it into words. Aesthetically they look nice. I could imagine they may help in not getting poked by cut string. Sometimes it can be difficult getting your fingers between the tuners without affecting another string. I could probably find a few more possible advantages. I think with the need to throw a wrench into the sprocket might not be worth the extra time and money to change out!
@paulthorn6437
@paulthorn6437 3 жыл бұрын
I would catch the tuners sticking off the back on so many things. Also I never needed an Allen key to string my guitar.
@electricgypsyblues4761
@electricgypsyblues4761 3 жыл бұрын
BINGO
@blazer6248
@blazer6248 3 жыл бұрын
I'd only use them on a Steinberger with gearless tuners
@grene1955
@grene1955 3 жыл бұрын
I love that companies are trying new stuff and thinking outside the box, but these seem like more trouble than they're worth...
@jacquesandre2565
@jacquesandre2565 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, not so much outside the box as they are clearly inspired by the steinberger tuning machines (althought not a copy). If these look more sturdy than the steinberger, the later don't need an allen key.
@latinumbavariae
@latinumbavariae 3 жыл бұрын
They weren't thinking at all, let alone "outside" of any box. They just wanted to do it different at any price. Dragging the string over a 90 degree edge is such a bad idea.
@rogerrussian9750
@rogerrussian9750 3 жыл бұрын
I agree completely, I only need my jewelers screwdriver set to slightly tighten the Gotoh tuners maybe once a year on my Epiphone & it stays in tune without any problem & my Fender tuners also do the job on my Partscaster. The "Riot" brand do look cool & different I must say though.
@oldrrocr
@oldrrocr 3 жыл бұрын
Just a point: Were these designed by Felix Wankel?
@marchangel7462
@marchangel7462 2 жыл бұрын
No need changing something that works. These look hideous.
@patrickrouse7357
@patrickrouse7357 3 жыл бұрын
I got a set of brass ones after watching this video and all I can say I'm filled with regret. One tuner had a bad bearing so I emailed them with the issue asking for a new bearing cause I'm handy and understanding. They offered a new tuner but never followed through. I ordered a single tuner to try and move forward on my build but they sent the wrong one. Another email back and forth resulting in an apology and a refund for the wrong tuner but no replacement so far. Stick with steinberger people!
@FLADAN-3848
@FLADAN-3848 3 жыл бұрын
Break string on stage...”hold on guys can’t find my Allen wrench!”
@spiderfan1974
@spiderfan1974 3 жыл бұрын
How's it any different from a guitar with a floyd?
@MrMusicfreak95
@MrMusicfreak95 3 жыл бұрын
@@spiderfan1974 yeah I get what you’re saying about the floyd, but guitarist that use a guitar with a Floyd usually compensate until the song is over and switch guitars, but imagine these are on Stevie ray Vaughn’s strat, then that amazing clip of him doing a live string change would never exist, I just feel like they’re over complicating things for something that is subjectively uglier, so there’s really no advantage to these for me. It’s not functionally convenient, and it not good looking
@spiderfan1974
@spiderfan1974 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrMusicfreak95 with those much like a Floyd you get your back up axe or #2 if you prefer. That is if you are lucky enough to be in a band with two or more guitarists. Your friend or tech can have your work horse back to you when your done with the song if they know what they are doing. I've been the "guitar tech" for the night many o' times. Get into the show for free see it from the side of the stage. Just hand your buddy a fresh guitar and be a combat medic if need be. Not much would change with these tuners or a floyd.
@toneseeker4968
@toneseeker4968 3 жыл бұрын
@@spiderfan1974 No difference! That's why I don't own a guitar with a floyd, either!
@spiderfan1974
@spiderfan1974 3 жыл бұрын
@@toneseeker4968 your missing out if you set one up right you have to beat that guitar out of tune. I say this now and I'll do it. But I'm gonna tempt fate here. I haven't broken a string accidentally in years. Have I done it on porpoise yeah once or twice. If your competent at guitar string breaks don't happen that often. Unless it's not yours and your friend uses 8's and you use 10's. Then you owe your friend a set of strings but if it's your guitar you'll know when to stop bending.
@shibumi5210
@shibumi5210 3 жыл бұрын
I was looking for something like this- a tuner that wasn't limited by having to go along the edge of the headstock! You can take a blank headstock, put the tuners EXACTLY in line with the strings, and make the headstock any shape you want to! 😎
@glinteastwood
@glinteastwood Жыл бұрын
Hammerhead baby
@bigmac51290
@bigmac51290 3 жыл бұрын
One thing he didn't mention, but looks like a possible advantage is that the break angle of the strings may be sharper since the string practically goes straight into the headstock.
@TylrVncnt
@TylrVncnt 3 жыл бұрын
Was thinking the same thing, definitely a better break angle overall. Also 40:1 gears really appeals to me personally
@jbbnbsmith
@jbbnbsmith 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, in fact I was wondering if it was enough to eliminate the need for the string trees.
@georgeboyer8158
@georgeboyer8158 3 жыл бұрын
GuitarSquatch Agree.
@peachmelba1000
@peachmelba1000 3 жыл бұрын
On the other hand, on a Strat for example, if the new break angle is significantly increased there may be a need to relieve the nut slots on the headstock side. These tuners have good reviews for their accuracy and tuning stability, but they are just a mess in terms of design.
@croftperkins
@croftperkins 3 жыл бұрын
That's what caught my interest, too.
@tasteapiana
@tasteapiana 3 жыл бұрын
I'm picturing those bottoming out inside a lot of hard cases and fitting really weird inside of soft cases.
@Scottocaster6668
@Scottocaster6668 3 жыл бұрын
Good point.
@flipnospan7808
@flipnospan7808 3 жыл бұрын
I was about to say pretty much the same thing.
@ravenfn831
@ravenfn831 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. That was my first thought. Do you want your headstock taking that kind of stress while in a hard case? Especially LP players. They're known for head stock breaks.
@fredkorkosz9370
@fredkorkosz9370 3 жыл бұрын
That was my thought exactly; in a case with limited clearance under the headstock; they could put pressure on the headstock inside the case. I would need to see exactly how deep they are to be certain that I am correct about that.
@Scottocaster6668
@Scottocaster6668 3 жыл бұрын
@@fredkorkosz9370 those are not worth the effort
@danielsutterfield835
@danielsutterfield835 3 жыл бұрын
The way you call out Gibson all the time is AMAZING!!!!!!
@ZitherBeast
@ZitherBeast 3 жыл бұрын
IT's freaking HILARIOUS
@Ottophil
@Ottophil 3 жыл бұрын
@@ZitherBeast is it though? Its a pretty played out joke. Low hanging fruit. Plus they are nice guitars. People only make fun of it cause they can’t afford a real les paul.
@ZitherBeast
@ZitherBeast 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ottophil Gotta learn to laugh my man, I like what I have, but funny is funny. Gibson has their big boy pants on, and if they don't they should. It's funny.
@wjfowler
@wjfowler 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ottophil lots of us have had numerous Gibson's. The precision and craftsmanship is a joke. 50 years of trading on a name. Acoustics fine. Known design flaws on numerous electrics.
@bigmac51290
@bigmac51290 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ottophil A real Les Paul has more QC issues than a chinese copy these days.
@mrpendent
@mrpendent 3 жыл бұрын
I cannot imagine any time these would be a good idea, except a serious dedication to an industrial aesthetic.
@scoutgirl7739
@scoutgirl7739 3 жыл бұрын
Another refined gimmick. The Allen key is like mom reminding you to 'dont forget to take your little brother'
@jerryreichelderfer747
@jerryreichelderfer747 3 жыл бұрын
The need for the Allen key is a deal breaker. Really cool other that that though. Maybe if they were to add a small thumbwheel and ditch the allen key I would be willing to try them.
@wenjacklow
@wenjacklow 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah just a horrible design IMO
@je-2024_1
@je-2024_1 3 жыл бұрын
stick on back of head stock with 2 sided tape like Eddie would ???? lol
@KazeAkiyama
@KazeAkiyama 3 жыл бұрын
@@je-2024_1 Still a hassle.
@ravenfn831
@ravenfn831 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone with a Floyd already has to have allens in their case.
@giordanorivolta4012
@giordanorivolta4012 3 жыл бұрын
And anyone with vintage tuners has to have string cutter in their case
@danielsgrunge
@danielsgrunge 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly can't see how this would be more pratical than any other kind of tuning machine lol
@Peasmouldia
@Peasmouldia 3 жыл бұрын
Less practical. you'll need an extraordinarily deep guitar case....
@ToddTheJoker
@ToddTheJoker 3 жыл бұрын
yeah, to me they look like a step backwards in engineering...plus you know..they are ugly..lol
@the.Aruarian
@the.Aruarian 3 жыл бұрын
These would be great for custom headstocks, because they'd allow for designs with straight string pull in mind.
@je-2024_1
@je-2024_1 3 жыл бұрын
mostly for the clean look I think
@evilcowboy
@evilcowboy 3 жыл бұрын
They are way less practical. You are right. It requires that you "loop all the unwound string" hmmmmmmm so exactly like the Wilkinson tuners with their EZ lock design. Yeah I agree with the other guy too who said it was a step backwards in engineering, because it is, there is literally other tuning machines that do the same thing cheaper, more effective, more practical and more aesthetically pleasing.
@alfeberlin
@alfeberlin 3 жыл бұрын
I would be afraid that the strings would break faster at the point where they are bent in a rather small radius around the entrance hole rim. On standard tuning machines that bend radius is way larger.
@deadinsidemcgee411
@deadinsidemcgee411 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but at the same time that’s the price for the versatility of the system.
@mickavoidant4780
@mickavoidant4780 2 жыл бұрын
That's what I thought. It might help, if the holes wear with time.
@patricktaylor8657
@patricktaylor8657 2 жыл бұрын
Not really, if you think about the hole where they go into the peg.
@alfeberlin
@alfeberlin 2 жыл бұрын
@@patricktaylor8657 There is a lot of friction involved _after_ the hole in the peg because normally strings are wound several times around the peg, and this reduces the tension _at_ the hole (and the sharp bend). But in this case of the entrance hole rim the whole tension of the string is lying on this hard bend.
@MichaelD8393
@MichaelD8393 3 жыл бұрын
3:05 I checked the website; the thickest gauge you can use with these is a 56!
@markandesme9284
@markandesme9284 3 жыл бұрын
Man does that actually fit back in the case? They stick out so far!
@metalguru01
@metalguru01 3 жыл бұрын
thats what I was thinking
@teiltje
@teiltje 3 жыл бұрын
@@metalguru01 They probably sell compatible guitar cases as well, with 6 holes drilled where the headstock sits.
@metalguru01
@metalguru01 3 жыл бұрын
@@teiltje I bet anything to fool us into thinking we need another gadget lol
@mrobinson1255
@mrobinson1255 3 жыл бұрын
they probably dont protrude any further than the body of the guitar
@thisguy2973
@thisguy2973 2 жыл бұрын
From the looks in the video, this guitar hangs on the wall, so it doesn’t matter at the moment.
@zylavormusic2616
@zylavormusic2616 3 жыл бұрын
I guess you can call it a “Frankenstrat” now!
@zylavormusic2616
@zylavormusic2616 3 жыл бұрын
@@NoName-gz2kk XD
@LGuitarB
@LGuitarB 3 жыл бұрын
"...or Gibson without pissing off the entire guitar community at least once a year" :-D
@croftperkins
@croftperkins 3 жыл бұрын
I'd have missed it if I weren't listening close enough. Lol
@leom7
@leom7 2 жыл бұрын
i don't get it, what's up with Gibson?
@LGuitarB
@LGuitarB 2 жыл бұрын
@@leom7 I think he refers to the times when they would come up with strange ideas like the robotuners
@cw-on-yt
@cw-on-yt 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting, but I agree with other commenters here: - they don't look as nice as a good set of normal locking tuners - they don't fit in guitar cases as easily as normal locking tuners - they require a hex key, unlike normal locking tuners - they require an extra looping of the unwound strings, which is a hassle compared to normal locking tuners Against all those inconveniences, the only advantage appears to be that they're slightly lighter than the tuners they replaced, and maybe that the position on the back of the headstock is a bit more convenient to your hand while you're tuning them. That's just not enough of a benefit to overcome the drawbacks. Not dissing the video, of course! Darrell, your stuff is always fun and informative; this vid is no exception. But when I say it's "informative," well...the information I'm taking away is that I'll pass on these tuners.
@FreedomIsntFree-gd2hg
@FreedomIsntFree-gd2hg 3 жыл бұрын
If you turn your volume really low on this you’ll end up with a “Quiet Riot”
@RodNesser
@RodNesser 3 жыл бұрын
Dad joke dude 😂
@DMSProduktions
@DMSProduktions 3 жыл бұрын
@@RodNesser there you go again with the anti father rhetoric!
@RodNesser
@RodNesser 3 жыл бұрын
@@DMSProduktions yes I know 😔 I never used to be this way... It all changed when I found out my real daddy was a donor 😢
@relevantinformation6655
@relevantinformation6655 3 жыл бұрын
🥁
@DMSProduktions
@DMSProduktions 3 жыл бұрын
@@RodNesser OUCH! Sorry! BUT you have the RIGHT to know your origins!
@nicolamontoro
@nicolamontoro 3 жыл бұрын
Gibson jokes never get old!
@Wells306
@Wells306 3 жыл бұрын
Hope you don’t get a subpoena in the mail now
@meespeeters826
@meespeeters826 3 жыл бұрын
But Gibson itself does
@NeptuneCheeseCake
@NeptuneCheeseCake 3 жыл бұрын
Unlike Gibson players
@harry_mair
@harry_mair 3 жыл бұрын
Unlike their guitar designs, marketing ideas and their fanatics
@jamesm2785
@jamesm2785 3 жыл бұрын
@@harry_mair idk why you guys are hating on Gibson. Their guitars are classics. They do have their problems but that doesn’t mean their bad instruments...
@BlaziNTrades
@BlaziNTrades 3 жыл бұрын
I love your reviews. Always so refreshing and BS free!
@Jakfilm
@Jakfilm 3 жыл бұрын
Third disadvantage, the back fo the headstock looks like hell.
@chrisggoodwin777
@chrisggoodwin777 3 жыл бұрын
It wouldn't be a Fender-based video without a Gibson jab 😂😂😂
@MarkGarbettLlanigan
@MarkGarbettLlanigan 3 жыл бұрын
I have had my first Gibson jab. I have to go for my second in a month or so
@je-2024_1
@je-2024_1 3 жыл бұрын
makes me fuzzy inside lol
@adfury
@adfury 3 жыл бұрын
Really like this idea as a firebird tuner .
@zyxwfish
@zyxwfish 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that would look good!
@jackkay4310
@jackkay4310 3 жыл бұрын
Someone should also put them onto a Roswell Rhoads. They would really streamline the headstock more!
@1dswylde
@1dswylde 3 жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking
@Rainyman63
@Rainyman63 3 жыл бұрын
Actually the only guitar that would be improved by these tuners. They are probably a lot lighter than the original banjo tuners.
@ltsmash1200
@ltsmash1200 3 жыл бұрын
I’d rather have the Steinberger gearless tuners on a Firebird. No Allen key required to change the strings and the knobs on the back don’t stick out as far on the back.
@squirelova1815
@squirelova1815 2 жыл бұрын
EPIC! This is the kind of cutting edge "wish I had thought of that" wonderful reviews this channel is well known for. I only hope Darrell never ever runs out of material, Amen.
@hyphen2612
@hyphen2612 3 жыл бұрын
I thought of this before since I'm a small custom guitar tuner maker called Perona. It wasn't new either, same concept had been marketed by Steinberg and another company I can't recall the brand name. Did a concept design and nah, decided it really didn't offer any advantage over a standard 18:1 worm gear design. But it's always inspiring to see new concepts being brought to market. 😀
@SixStringflyboy
@SixStringflyboy 3 жыл бұрын
So....giveaway coming up on the channel soon, slightly-used set of Riot tuners. 😂
@evilcowboy
@evilcowboy 3 жыл бұрын
lol yup
@MoonshineSazerac
@MoonshineSazerac 3 жыл бұрын
Had these for months now. They've exhibited some of the best tuning stability I've ever experienced.
@audimaster5000
@audimaster5000 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah? So you dig em? How’s tight are the tolerances? Is there any backlash or play or are they fairly solid feeling?
@bernieorbust6104
@bernieorbust6104 3 жыл бұрын
How easy is it to accidentally bump the tuners out of tune? He said they move easily with no resistance. Isnt this bad if you want it to stay put?
@scottt9382
@scottt9382 3 жыл бұрын
Good luck with that little Allen wrench on stage. ;)
@kevinjokipii4260
@kevinjokipii4260 3 жыл бұрын
I could see these being useful on the lower neck of a double-neck, where the buttons of standard tuners might be too close to the other headstock. I don't think I want to pay a hundred bucks for that convenience though.
@RC32Smiths01
@RC32Smiths01 3 жыл бұрын
It was a pleasure to "tune" in to this one man!
@0987__
@0987__ 3 жыл бұрын
That “not sure that’s the best slogan considering our political climate” cracked me up man. Great vid
@kenz2756
@kenz2756 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure why he had to worry about that since he's Canadian
@willcresson8776
@willcresson8776 3 жыл бұрын
@@kenz2756 they're rioting all over Canada right now, far more justifiably than in the USA, as their government just extended and expanded the couf19 lockdown and relevant restrictions AGAIN. Ontario is on fire right now, from what my friends across the north border tell me.
@th0tp0lice666
@th0tp0lice666 3 жыл бұрын
@@willcresson8776 yeah you’re right, COVID lockdowns are WAY worse than police killing people.
@cuteasxtreme
@cuteasxtreme 3 жыл бұрын
@@th0tp0lice666 ok
@colinhoban8660
@colinhoban8660 3 жыл бұрын
Cancel Darrell Braun 🤣🤣🤣
@d3w4yn3
@d3w4yn3 3 жыл бұрын
I was a little nervous that you were doing this to a real American Strat. But yet this is so cool, even as a purist, I'm in!!!
@georgek659
@georgek659 3 жыл бұрын
This is scary Darrell :D this is plain scary hahaha Very interesting tuners btw.
@davedee6339
@davedee6339 3 жыл бұрын
Needing to keep track of a hex key makes it a non-starter for me. Looks *sorta* cool from the front I guess, but really seems to be trying to solve a problem that doesn’t exist. I can think of lots of better stuff to spend $100 bucks on.
@rogerrussian9750
@rogerrussian9750 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, too much mucking around, although they seem to be top quality. I'd say we're looking at about $200 AUD by the time we get them shipped down to Aussie which makes them reasonably expensive. Great video as usual, thanks.
@gilbertotoledo1421
@gilbertotoledo1421 3 жыл бұрын
Pokiness is a word I didn't know I needed.
@rayrobinson2074
@rayrobinson2074 3 жыл бұрын
You'd probably discover a few other new words if you didn't have a good set of flush trim cutters with these. They do seem like they'd be more comfortable to tune with than the standard tuners though.
@michaeltaylors2456
@michaeltaylors2456 3 жыл бұрын
There is a entire world of videos devoted to pokies and pokiness. Or so I’ve been told
@darkmaster450
@darkmaster450 3 ай бұрын
That looks so clean 😮🤯
@GusMonkey13
@GusMonkey13 3 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna need an update on those just to ensure that stay in tune, sir. I was hopping for a demo there, nice job putinng gibson on tune too.
@hpdown6398
@hpdown6398 3 жыл бұрын
You have such an infectious happy attitude!
@thedaver8
@thedaver8 3 жыл бұрын
Always love your videos, Braun. 😁
@elducko1951
@elducko1951 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool! I appreciate the concept at first look, they are almost like a "Space Age Banjo Tuner!" They should sell the tuners with a bracket to hold the Allen key on the back of the headstock like the guitars with a Floyd Rose trem
@terpgomer
@terpgomer 3 жыл бұрын
"... or Gibson not pissing off..." You, sir, have won the internet!
@danstringer7610
@danstringer7610 3 жыл бұрын
Cool, weird, funky....but I like the ones you took off better.
@MetallicA29
@MetallicA29 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Fender lockers seem more practical.
@jackp8583
@jackp8583 3 жыл бұрын
Really like your more obscure gear reviews! 👍
@syko0225
@syko0225 3 жыл бұрын
These look slick! 🔥
@robertbuilder8001
@robertbuilder8001 3 жыл бұрын
They look like they've been put together from that bucket of junk every bloke has in his garage :)
@evilcowboy
@evilcowboy 3 жыл бұрын
Goddamnit.......my bucket is gone........guess I know where it went now lmfao. Seriously, you are 100% right, they look pretty meh and not very impressive at all. Maybe they look like a junk bolt because thats where you are gonna put them eventually. I can see someone trying them out and then getting frustrated loosing an allen key and just throw them out and revert. It is also a pointless product as I am pretty sure most people who would put these on a Fender would rather keep the original tuners because they work fine, even the non-locking type from Fender. It a solution to a problem nobody had.
@kennethchou4384
@kennethchou4384 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, the Les Paul and all the 50s fender stuff was made from junk in a garage.
@wesleyalan9179
@wesleyalan9179 3 жыл бұрын
Lol!
@TheRamblingMan69
@TheRamblingMan69 3 жыл бұрын
I can't believe they all match, I'd have a wing nut on at least one of mine.
@john_pryce9855
@john_pryce9855 3 жыл бұрын
Are these gonna cause my strat to rest on it’s headstock in the case? Like they seem much taller than the Klusons
@joermnyc
@joermnyc 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely put your guitar in the case and measure the gap from the bottom of the case to the back of the tuners before buying these. If you have a case that is designed for angled headstocks it might work since it drops away from the higher string tuners.
@David-uq2uk
@David-uq2uk 3 жыл бұрын
Doubt it there the same depth as fender locking tuners I checked .
@martinkrauser4029
@martinkrauser4029 3 жыл бұрын
@@David-uq2uk thanks for clearing that up. I was worried they might be too long and pose a risk to a guitar falling backwards, hitting the floor tuner-first and the headstock absorbing the impact.
@krystalmesh
@krystalmesh 3 жыл бұрын
Based on the thumbnail I assumed I wouldn’t dig these tuners, but after the vid, I really like em. I hope you do a long term review. Thanks for sharing these.
@SeanKerns
@SeanKerns 3 жыл бұрын
Those are trippy, DB!
@cheapskate8656
@cheapskate8656 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for reviewing this product. These are a similar concept to Steinberger tuners which I installed on my last build. Steinberger's are slightly lighter at 29.5 grams and much faster to change strings. These riot tuners look great from the front (very neat). They look industrial from the back. The Steinbergers are neat at the back but more industrial from the front ..... but .... thats what enables the faster string change.
@bednar23
@bednar23 3 жыл бұрын
I spat my drink out when you made the "incite a riot comment" 😂😂
@demogorgonn
@demogorgonn 3 жыл бұрын
It would be kinda cool if you taped yourself tuning it up filming your tuner to see just how precise they are.
@abrahama2643
@abrahama2643 3 жыл бұрын
Thats what I thought I'm not sure if it would be easier or not turning a knob in stead of a tuner key.
@evilcowboy
@evilcowboy 3 жыл бұрын
@@abrahama2643 Harder that normal tuners. The reason why is because the hole the string goes through has a break angle of 90 degrees, while a normal tuner only has to deal with the break angle coming off from the string tree which has a less drastic break angle of around 10 to 20 degrees depending on string. So it creates more friction over the extra angle. However I will say that the difference should be small and would likely need a side by side comparison to feel that difference. But just because its not "that" noticeable doesn't mean its a good design, this is still a bad design because cheaper ones work on the same principal. No reason to reinvent the wheel on this one.
@abrahama2643
@abrahama2643 3 жыл бұрын
@@evilcowboy Good points. I agree. One of the first things I noticed is the sharp angle going into the hole. It seems like if you do lots of fine tuning, the edge will chew away at the string.
@jodybasham5351
@jodybasham5351 3 жыл бұрын
@@abrahama2643 I would think just the opposite, the strings will wear a groove in the tuner.
@akronstreetbum
@akronstreetbum 3 жыл бұрын
Hard pass from this builder. Esthetically speaking, cool concept. The break angle is slightly improved on a flat headstock design, but might be too much on an angled design. And as you pointed out... Changing strings in a hurry on the side of the stage would be impossible. They are an interesting concept though.
@Sammywhat
@Sammywhat 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Darrell! Always a blessing to watch your show!! Quick question, did the tuner eliminate the need for a string tree?
@konanarcher
@konanarcher 3 жыл бұрын
I would have loved to hear a demonstration of how they tune :(
@cooper9287
@cooper9287 3 жыл бұрын
He didn't even demonstrate them. Disappointed
@Hadakles
@Hadakles 3 жыл бұрын
@@cooper9287 He does at 9.20
@konanarcher
@konanarcher 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hadakles he just spins them you can't hear anything...
@neur303
@neur303 3 жыл бұрын
demonstrations are not allowed depending on where you are
@stevesorrell9835
@stevesorrell9835 3 жыл бұрын
I've had these on my Rooster "Firebasterd" build, for about 6 years. That's my headstock, on their website! They are perfect! Unbeatable quality.
@robpaige4122
@robpaige4122 3 жыл бұрын
I see the tuners hitting the wall when I hang up the guitar.
@MatthewGalloway
@MatthewGalloway 3 жыл бұрын
They look neat but as soon as I'm required to have have a hex key to change my strings, I'm out
@wildesage4172
@wildesage4172 3 жыл бұрын
40:1 ratio brings a tear to my eye. Also, right as I begin to wonder about the weight, Darrell busts out the scale. As expected! You're the man.
@wildesage4172
@wildesage4172 3 жыл бұрын
@Dave Stevens I upgraded to a strobe tuner for the first time last year. I want to make that wheel stop spinning so bad... I'd happily take 4 full turns per semitone, lol.
@virginia7125
@virginia7125 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the ratio for my Bolens leaf blower...
@garyrose5211
@garyrose5211 3 жыл бұрын
I think I can also see a potential issue where the strings pass over the metal edge of the tuner front string insertion hole, as the string at this point Is having to bend 90 degrees where it enters the hole to the tuner; thus potentially creating a friction point/sticking point.
@vspatmx7458
@vspatmx7458 2 жыл бұрын
This is a good idea work-in-progress marred by the Allen key and hopefully the future evolutions will make things alot faster and better
@cryptoking7093
@cryptoking7093 2 жыл бұрын
Those things are a riot!🤘😜🤘
@dtrude000
@dtrude000 3 жыл бұрын
Darrell, the only thing missing on this episode is your incredible playing , I know that it should not drastically change or alter the tone or Sustain , still love to hear you play.
@greggoso600
@greggoso600 3 жыл бұрын
omg that gibson roast ahahaha
@davidnuzzaci2459
@davidnuzzaci2459 3 жыл бұрын
How well do they hold the intonation of your guitar, being that the string can float in the barrel? I'm seriously interested in purchasing these!
@timcastle165
@timcastle165 3 жыл бұрын
A Fender Stratocaster is like a “Honda Civic” or a “Jeep Wrangler”!! That was a Great comparison, Loved it!! Lol Always enjoy your video’s!!!
@jeffsza3875
@jeffsza3875 3 жыл бұрын
"Using mah full strength there..." How many guitar strings have you hand pulled out of locking tuners?
@evilcowboy
@evilcowboy 3 жыл бұрын
lmfao good point.
@j_music_8779
@j_music_8779 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool product, but being tethered to an allen wrench is a deal breaker for me. Nice video though Darrell!
@SphincterKnuckleBuster
@SphincterKnuckleBuster 2 жыл бұрын
Great show! Those look kinda neat/different on a strat.
@ricstormwolf
@ricstormwolf 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, Darrell. I love your channel, reviews and builds. I have a question about your acoustic album. Is it available on another format other than iTunes? Like maybe a physical copy?
@Timinator62
@Timinator62 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, this solves those tuning questions that nobody asked, like..."could you make a Tuning Machine where you have to have a little tool to change out the string, because I like looking for a small item while I'm onstage when I break a string." , "I would like a Tuning Machine that will make my String Trees completely useless, oh yeah and make them cost twice as much as everything else on the market."
@gyro1488
@gyro1488 3 жыл бұрын
This style reminds me a lot of classical guitar tuners, easier to tune because its from the back, instead of side
@jacquesd5781
@jacquesd5781 3 жыл бұрын
1:15 "Not sure we're on a last name basis, yet, but anyway..." LOl, I think "Chris" mistook your last name as your first name. Good quip, tough!
@LTColZero
@LTColZero 3 жыл бұрын
Nice of you to play the bar and let us judge the tuning aspect
@juzzie
@juzzie 3 жыл бұрын
Lol.. I literally turned around and looked at my Kiesel 5 secs before u said it .. 🤣
@richarddwjensen
@richarddwjensen 3 жыл бұрын
How does the lower break angle against the nut affect things? Could you do away with the string tree?
@pedromusic4209
@pedromusic4209 3 жыл бұрын
That's what she said 🤣
@TylrVncnt
@TylrVncnt 3 жыл бұрын
It looks like it would def help compared to typical staggered tuners, but a good low friction string tree (or 2...) is still a good idea no matter *what* for the flat/6-in-line/Fender-style headstocks. Staggered tuners alone don’t help *enough* for a proper break angle over the nut to where there’s no maddening side effects Just my opinion
@tommyking207
@tommyking207 3 жыл бұрын
This type of solution opens up more options for headstock shapes 👍but admittedly I think they need to be shallower
@rockingbuddah
@rockingbuddah 3 жыл бұрын
great video, I appreciate how you are not trying to be funny like most people on YT.
@zheil9152
@zheil9152 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to see some company bringing back the Steinberger tuners now that Gibson has locked them down for purchase
@jeffscarff1655
@jeffscarff1655 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking that too. Straight string pull is a definite plus compared to wrapping around a shaft.
@mos6507
@mos6507 3 жыл бұрын
The Steinberger tuners have been available again on Stewmac for years now.
@yetimatzenightcat8702
@yetimatzenightcat8702 3 жыл бұрын
Things that the world don't need. I'm still looking for the meaning 🦧ööööö🤔😄
@85gbody97
@85gbody97 3 жыл бұрын
Lately I’ve doing a deep dive into the life of Eddie VanHalen and I have this crazy notion that had he not pass,that these two would of got along amazingly as they both seem to do all sorts of crazy things with guitars to see what sorta tones they can create.
@jeffmartineau8479
@jeffmartineau8479 3 жыл бұрын
The niche market for these is individuality and uniqueness more than functionality.. But they do that quite nicely.
@BrodyBaddis
@BrodyBaddis 3 жыл бұрын
@6:10 for weight comparison. thank you for difference check
@DominicAzadYT
@DominicAzadYT 3 жыл бұрын
Never been this early but oh man a little Darrell Braun is just what I needed rn
@UmVtCg
@UmVtCg 3 жыл бұрын
That's odd, your woman told me you're always early
@DominicAzadYT
@DominicAzadYT 3 жыл бұрын
@@UmVtCg sike I've been alone for well over a year now
@allyemeraart
@allyemeraart 2 жыл бұрын
2021 and you still got a windows movie maker intro. respect!
@jean-pierrecharbit5934
@jean-pierrecharbit5934 3 жыл бұрын
Enfin quelque chose de nouveau sur les guitares...
@brianmckenzie1318
@brianmckenzie1318 3 жыл бұрын
On a Gibson 3 + 3 headstock would probably make the tuning stability worse since you can't wind the D & G strings "up" the post to alleviate some of that break angle.
@lexzbuddy
@lexzbuddy 3 жыл бұрын
I have Steinberger tunes that work in a similar way. Interesting.
@keefjunior5886
@keefjunior5886 3 жыл бұрын
I think with these, aesthetics are probably the last thing that'd come to mind. Seems like they'd go well with certain headless guitar designs, and I do appreciate the 40:1 ratio.
@rareform6747
@rareform6747 3 жыл бұрын
Love all my traditional locking tuners , game changer ! As for guitar case's will it fit ?
@redram5150
@redram5150 3 жыл бұрын
Needing a tool seems like inviting the hassle of losing it. I’m not even crazy about locking a guitar nut
@Jydmd
@Jydmd 3 жыл бұрын
That's innovative for sure! I'm pretty impressed by the weight, they looked way heavier than the standard locking tuners. Maybe I'm wrong but it feels like it might me too easy to accidentally turn the barrel and put your guitar out of tube? It kinda looked like it needed way less than a regular tuning key to turn.
@thebarondisco7741
@thebarondisco7741 3 жыл бұрын
I can't figure out what they are trying to solve with this design. Seems like it just makes things more complicated.
@audimaster5000
@audimaster5000 3 жыл бұрын
@@thebarondisco7741 I think it’s more of another approach to the wheel. Not necessarily better or worse, but different. That’s my take
@TylrVncnt
@TylrVncnt 3 жыл бұрын
They are apparently 40:1 gear ratio, so more than twice as precise (takes *more* movement to get the same given pitch “distance”) than typical tuners. So it takes more turns to get it up to tune but with advantage of having control and precision, tho I’ve never tried these specific tuners
@LjusHuvud85
@LjusHuvud85 3 жыл бұрын
those tuners looks so metal!!
@bradleyard4195
@bradleyard4195 3 жыл бұрын
Something else I noticed that you didn't mention is, unlike with standard tuning machines on a strat, the strings are perfectly straight from the nut to the tuners, meaning that there's no bend. With standard tuners, the strings will have a slight bend sideways at the nut. That lack of a bend is going to increase your tuning stability, especially if you use the vibrato bar, since it reduces friction. I like these. May need to consider these for a couple of my guitars.
@stephanematis
@stephanematis 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Steinberger Gearless Tuners, as often seen on Firebirds.
@stevesorrell9835
@stevesorrell9835 3 жыл бұрын
I have the Steinberger tuners on one of my builds. They are sadly, horrible. These are amazing. Not paid to say that! 😸
@stephanematis
@stephanematis 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevesorrell9835 Thanks for the warning about the Steinbergers!
@PeteKaster
@PeteKaster 3 жыл бұрын
I had a Les Paul Future with those Steinberger keys. Looked weird, but found them useful for precision tuning. They look way better on the firebird for sure
@allighton
@allighton 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevesorrell9835 I have them on a guitar and love them...very precise, no negatives that I've found. What problems do you have?
@kostagiann100
@kostagiann100 3 жыл бұрын
As far as the screw holes cosmetic problem, all you have to do is Screw back on the old screws from the old machine heads and they will look awesome like they belong there
@d3w4yn3
@d3w4yn3 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent solution for my ADD!
@dougtraub2951
@dougtraub2951 2 жыл бұрын
You would need to use shorter screws or shorten some screws. You could drill the holes a little deeper but that would risk drilling all the way through the head.
@ChristianFS1
@ChristianFS1 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! 2 thoughts: - An advantage of this design that I didn't hear you cover is that the break angle will basically be as low as possible (barring slotted designs), so on non-angled headstocks this should help out immensely with regards to break angles and such. - I think Firebird enthusiasts would really enjoy these tuners! They would probably mean less neck-diving, for sure, as they are lighter, and also fit the general aesthetic, as the buttons themselves aren't visible from the front, just like on banjo tuners.
@RocktCityTim
@RocktCityTim 3 жыл бұрын
Purchased a set and noted I saw them here!
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