What I Hate About My 2018 CB650F?

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What I Hate About My 2018 CB650F?

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Күн бұрын

I felt compelled to share what I hate about my CB650F. I've found similar "what I hate" videos on other bikes quite useful, so I thought I should share whatever dislikes and faults I have found in 15,000 kms on this bike. Just how many are there?

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@MrFurley69 3 жыл бұрын

Picking mine up Friday. My first bike. I'm excited

@Scoottoots 3 жыл бұрын

That's awesome. It's an excellent bike. Go easy on the throttle ;-)

@JC-cs8lb 3 ай бұрын

Hey, im about to buy a cb650f as my fist bike too. Can#t wait. What can you say about your choice after 3 years? Would appreciate a respond a lot!

@nathanhenry4214 4 жыл бұрын

Thats a nice problem to have when you can't find much to hate about your bike.

@Scoottoots 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah it sure is! :-)

@reezonoce 3 жыл бұрын

So realistically, the only issues you have found are that of "comfort" and easy to fix/change issues that are personal for the most part. I have a 2014 CB650f and I love it, have done around 6k so far and the only issue I find is no LED main headlight(fixable) and like you, the stock clutch lever is too far out, will be replacing soon. Love the honest vids, should do a 20k review so that others can get an idea of what to expect after a few thousand KMs :)

@Scoottoots 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Reezon, it's a pretty well put together and thought out bike. I'll definitely do a 20K review when the clock rolls around to that.

@scottseedell238 9 ай бұрын

I've got a 2017 version of this bike and I love it. The major gripe is no gear indicator but it's really not a big or expensive job to fit one. Sure, it's no racing bike and gets very windy but it really shifts and it's a nice feeling to know it can utterly destroy virtually any car on the road on acceleration.

@Scoottoots 9 ай бұрын

Yup, it's a lovely bike. So smooth and lots of power when you want it. I have a gear indicator on mine. Got it from Amazon and it was plug it in, calibrate it, and you're done.

@reecerides3809 4 жыл бұрын

Having owned a CBR650F for almost 2 years, I agree there's nothing not to like about these bikes. They do everything you need and more, looking at buying the CB650F in the next few weeks, hopefully in red like yours. 😁 great videos, subscribed too👍

@Scoottoots 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Reece, I've not ridden the CBR version, but I do love the CB. More rounded I would think. Good luck :-)

@saminkalhor4281 4 жыл бұрын

When u have a tail tidy, gravels are expected on the seat

@Scoottoots 4 жыл бұрын

Nah, it happened from new and on roads that were very clean. I didn't have the tail tidy installed until the following season. Anyway it's right under my butt. Strange.

@zacke9606 2 жыл бұрын

I bought my first bike this summer, a cb650f 2017, I love it. Nice video! 🙂👍

@Scoottoots 2 жыл бұрын

Good choice :-). Enjoy it!

@fatfinger7436 3 жыл бұрын

I have the same bike,,9,000 miles and no complaints👍. I had to watch your video to find out what there is to hate, and to my surprise, like me, you really had none. Good job on the review, ride safe, but most of all , HAVE FUN!

@Scoottoots 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Fat Finger, What's not to like right? The more I ride the more I appreciate it. Stay safe and have a blast :-)

@adrianrodriguez874 17 күн бұрын

It’s actually insane you bring up the stones on the seat. It happens time to time for me even in the passenger portion. 2016 cbr650f

@Scoottoots 17 күн бұрын

It hit me later that it's probably coming off my boot as I swing a leg over to dismount. Seems obvious now but it sure puzzled me for a while. Doesn't take much, lol 🙂.

@Leafing 3 жыл бұрын

I have that bike, I removed passenger foot rest too and added a tail tidy. I only hate the headlight tbh, it didn't age well. Other than that, great beginner bike

@Scoottoots 3 жыл бұрын

I love the bike. It's been great. I'd never label as a beginner bike though. Sure a beginner can start on it, but it's perfect for seasoned riders for anything from commuting, to spirited street riding, and the occasional track day. This power class is where it's at. Power that useable on the street; well, almost useable. The phrase beginner bike is so overused. I heard someone call the R6 a beginner bike because the R1 has more horsepower, lol.

@johnlillyblad5188 Жыл бұрын

I think the lack of gear indicator is the worst thing. It would have been so easy to include it. No heated grips is annoying, in the PNW it gets unrideable due to cold hands. The stock levers aren't great but you hit on that. The way the mirrors are adjusted is annoying to me but maybe I just need to read the manual to get it straight. I've had the right mirror get loose and swing back when going fast.

@Scoottoots Жыл бұрын

Usually only high end bikes come with heated grips. It gets cold up here in BC for sure and I ride all winter. I prefer heated gloves. Keeps the fingers warmer. Regarding the mirrors. Two 14mm wrenches to adjust and lock it down with the lock nut. Pretty much all bikes have the same method. Just gotta lock it down good. Great bike though. Enjoy yours :-)

@VanKvn 3 жыл бұрын

Did you remove the CB650F stickers yourself on the plastic vents, on the sides of the fueltank? I got a black CB650F and the red stickering is something I want to get rid of. Very happy with this bike as a beginner rider.

@Scoottoots 3 жыл бұрын

Yes I removed them myself. I used a hair dryer to warm them up as I went and they pulled off cleanly. It's a wonderful bike; one you won't necessarily outgrow. It's very capable. Enjoy :-)

@markhinde6187 10 ай бұрын

The tail tidy will throw dirt and rain onto the seat, your back will get wet in the rain as well, the original rear set up prevents all this

@Scoottoots 10 ай бұрын

If I were commuting to work that would be an issue for sure and I'd leave the stock tail alone. You're right it wouldn't be practical. As is, I get to choose my riding conditions and never ride in the rain, so not an issue for me.

@jtfrizzell 3 жыл бұрын

Where did you come across the side tank pads? And I agree with you there is more to love about this bike than not to like. I’ve done 17,000 miles in the past year on this wonderful machine.

@Scoottoots 3 жыл бұрын

Nice. I like when people actually ride their bikes! I got those tank grips from either AliExpress website or Amazon. If you search you're bound to find them. I couldn't get the backing paper off the adhesive on them when trying to apply, so I ended up removing the adhesive altogether and bonding them to the tank with a good quality exterior silicone sealant. It's a good choice if you need an adhesive.

@555sti9 3 жыл бұрын

I love mine with the Q3+, great bike!

@Scoottoots 3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. And yeah the Q3+ make a positive difference.

@chriscurtis4832 4 жыл бұрын

The mess on the seat could be because you installed a tail tidy? I’ve seen a few complaints in the U.K. about crap being thrown up after removing the standard rear tail.

@Scoottoots 4 жыл бұрын

No, it happened from new. I installed the tail tidy after the first season. Strange stuff.

@richarddelay9125 4 жыл бұрын

I was assuming that the small bits of gravel was due to the pavement being fresh or sticky. So tires picking up small bits and flinging them into the air from other vehicles . I don't have a tail tidy and it's happening to me too. Good case for decent eye protection in any case.

@Scoottoots 4 жыл бұрын

@@richarddelay9125 Just odd that I find them only under my butt, but yes, eye protection is vital.

@markcollins5026 4 жыл бұрын

Man, I don't like the tail tidys, looks like the bike has been Bob tailed !

@Scoottoots 4 жыл бұрын

@@markcollins5026 Different strokes I guess ;-)

@OGBB33 3 жыл бұрын

Sharp looking bike. Great video! I just bought a ‘07 Honda CB900F 919 and love it so far. What brand and model rear cargo bag are u using? I want one.

@Scoottoots 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Your CB900F must be a good ride. Not sure I've seen one in person. The tail bag is a Nelson Rigg 'Sport' model.

@michelod.i.y.5202 3 жыл бұрын

Only a matter of taste, not keen on the head light, but it is a great bike.

@Scoottoots 3 жыл бұрын

Yes the headlight is a bone of contention :-)

@billmurphy1300 3 жыл бұрын

How about the weight a little heavy?

@Scoottoots 3 жыл бұрын

It's always nice to have more power to weight ratio, but the weight of this bike is in part why it is so planted at speed. It has the power to easily carry it's weight, so I don't see it as a negative in the final analysis.

@deanobert2470 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, I was just wondering if you ever miss Clyde?

@Scoottoots 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, sure I miss Clyde. Selling was the right thing to do though, being as I couldn't ride the dirt trails enough anymore to warrant keeping him. Sad though, I recently heard the new owner slid out on some gravel in the road and Clyde slid under an oncoming semi truck. The rider was okay as far as I know, which is good at least, but Clyde is no more.

@deanobert2470 3 жыл бұрын

@@Scoottoots I'm glad the rider is ok, I hate it for poor Clyde though.

@randersson3672 4 жыл бұрын

Simply put..it's a Honda 😁

@Scoottoots 4 жыл бұрын

Yup, I'm having great success with Honda thus far. Build quality and attention to detail. Pretty happy with it.

@overl33t 2 жыл бұрын

Hey there Looking to buy a second hand cb650f, but im wondering if the bike comes with grab rails on the rear end.

@Scoottoots 2 жыл бұрын

It has built in grip areas in the plastic at the tail

@5ebra1 4 жыл бұрын

It’s a nice bike and a nice review. Does the bike have ABS?

@Scoottoots 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, and yes, it has ABS

@adrianb4429 3 жыл бұрын

Can you tell me please what tire size did you fit on the rear, it looks fantastic. Is it 180/55 or 190/50? Thanks!

@Scoottoots 3 жыл бұрын

It's the stock size of 180/55 - 17. Pretty beefy tire for sure.

@orlandoflores7720 Жыл бұрын

You know, the video could have been shorter if you just talked about things you didn’t like (like the title implies). Or you could have made one about the things you do like about the bike, which seem to outweigh the things you don’t like. Just my thought. I’m considering buying one myself as I am a Honda in-line 4 fan.

@Scoottoots Жыл бұрын

Yeah I could have, but I didn't ;-) Buy the bike. It's a good one!

@saminkalhor4281 4 жыл бұрын

And let me add a couple to your list, vibration around 4.5 to 6.5k, high fuel consumption, buttery soft bolts and nuts, dead spots at 6th gear on lower rpms, uncomfty seat after 1 hour

@Scoottoots 4 жыл бұрын

I have no vibration at any RPM, my fuel consumption is quite reasonable and depends on how hard I push it. Bolts have been as expected; they are meant to be torqued to spec and so they vary in hardness accordingly, I have no dead spot in power in any gear, and the seat is comfy for me even after several hours. Different strokes I guess ;-)

@fatfinger7436 3 жыл бұрын

@@Scoottoots,, same here,, ,I have nothing to complain about mine. Very quiet ride, until you hammer down!

@efremendez 2 жыл бұрын

I've seen a few other videos where they mention seat not as comfortable as bikes they compare it to

@michelod.i.y.5202 3 жыл бұрын

To think my CB125F comes with a digital gear read out indicator

@Scoottoots 3 жыл бұрын

Indeed!

@acctyj 3 жыл бұрын

Can you please let me know the model of your levers? I have the same bike - same year same model and I really dislike the levers as they are just too far out. Thanks!

@Scoottoots 3 жыл бұрын

Hi, I ordered them from Pazzo Racing in Vancouver Canada. www.pazzoracing.com/ The details from my order are: HONDA CBR650F/A CB650F/R 2014-2020 (F-18/H-65), short, BLACK LEVER W/RED TAB, Brake And Clutch You can look up your bike on their website and have them build them in whatever configuration and color you want. I'm very happy with them. Nicely built, very precise and solid.

@acctyj 3 жыл бұрын

@@Scoottoots Thanks! One more quick question if you don't mind. Do you use two fingers or four fingers on your clutch lever? I wonder if I could still use four fingers on a short clutch lever. Thanks again!

@Scoottoots 3 жыл бұрын

@@acctyj I use two. I keep two fingers on the brake and clutch at all times, except when I am stopping when I need to pull the clutch in all the way; then I use 4 fingers. So I guess you can still use four, but two is better. Maybe build the good habit of keeping two fingers on each lever at all times. It's safer and when you get used to it, it gives you better control for trail braking and such.

@KyleEbright 3 жыл бұрын

how long did the stock tires last for you before replacing?

@Scoottoots 3 жыл бұрын

A little over 12,000 kms. The front was still good but I wanted to switch to the Dunlop Sportmax Q3 Plus front and rear at the same time. Nice improvement in handling and grip.

@adithyaherath2000 2 жыл бұрын

Do you mean new model is cb650R? (Power delivery)

@Scoottoots 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, the new version from this model is the CB650R, and most sources indicate a flat spot in the power delivery; likely a result of the 4 extra ponies they got out of it with some intake modifications and a bit higher redline limit.

@adithyaherath2000 2 жыл бұрын

@@Scoottoots thanks mate😃

@filoIII 3 жыл бұрын

If they make it a parallel twin, I'm all in.

@Scoottoots 3 жыл бұрын

Haha, it would lose all that smooth mojo. No way!

@bechtoea 3 жыл бұрын

You are a candidate for the CB500F, which is a twin.

@filoIII 3 жыл бұрын

@@bechtoeaWho said anything about a 500??????? I've had 1200 Sportsters, and have have a 650 sportbike now. Thx for the info, though.

@ridehead8771 3 жыл бұрын

Then you should buy the MT07, beast of a machine but Inline 4's are just a dream to own, that sound alone will excite your senses lol

@filoIII 3 жыл бұрын

@@ridehead8771 MT07 doesn't handle well. I4s have a different rev range. I don't need ALOT of power at 90 mph, 'cause I'm not gonna need it. The MT07 does have the power where it's needed, but it's not a quality bike. Not like the CB650f COULD be.

@johnlillyblad5188 Жыл бұрын

What tail tidy kit did you use?

@Scoottoots Жыл бұрын

It was from AliExpress (China). It was $43 CAD delivered. It is not available anymore, but there are always several types on offer there. This is one I got: www.aliexpress.com/item/4000354164453.html?

@pietrovardi9583 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome!

@Scoottoots 4 жыл бұрын

Cheers :-)

@clivewinters7479 4 жыл бұрын

Don’t sell it!

@Scoottoots 4 жыл бұрын

It's beginning to dawn on me that I'll likely keep this bike forever. I think it deserves a name now ;-)

@microsoft790 Жыл бұрын

how about the god awful ancient forks?

@Scoottoots Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it would be nice if they were upside down but they seem to handle well regardless. I think I'll keep mine forever :-)

@microsoft790 Жыл бұрын

@@Scoottoots May I ask what your weight is? I'm really happy to see that you liked the bike so much. I loved it but it just wasnt right for me. I weighed only 130 pounds without any gear when I had it and I think that contributed to the awkward handling. It handled well when pushed hard but in regular traffic felt like riding on ice

@Scoottoots Жыл бұрын

@@microsoft790 I weigh 180lbs without gear. I am surprised your bike handled skittish in traffic. I enjoy challenging myself in parking lots on tight maneuvers and fast direction changes, etc. I think that helps.

@eaglescout5816 2 жыл бұрын

Hows the cornering at 100 mph?

@Scoottoots 2 жыл бұрын

Hairpin turns at 100 mph are bit sketchy, lol. Seriously though, at that and above the bike is still planted in sweeping bends. The weight, wheelbase, and suspension, create a stable ride at speed. Good tires help also. I use Dunlop Q3+

@eaglescout5816 2 жыл бұрын

@@Scoottoots Sounds like a keeper then.

@PingPongGod1 3 жыл бұрын

Hold the fuck up!!! No Gear Indicator????? What the fuckkkkk???

@Scoottoots 3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha, indeed. How dare they toy with us like that!

@2WCapo 3 жыл бұрын

+1 Thin paint

@Scoottoots 3 жыл бұрын

I haven't noticed that and I'm fussy about paint, having been in that industry in the past. I'll keep my eyes open though, Thanks :-)

@shashidl 2 жыл бұрын

What tail bag is it?

@Scoottoots 2 жыл бұрын

It's a Nelson Rigg 'Sport' tail bag.

@shashidl 2 жыл бұрын

@@Scoottoots thank you. I wonder what do you have to say about the ergonomics? Is it comfortable On long rides? What about pressure on arms and back?

@Scoottoots 2 жыл бұрын

@@shashidl I find it fairly comfy on longer rides at highway speeds, as the wind hitting you is clean and not buffeting, and it supports your torso taking all the pressure off the wrists and arms. The seat is comfortable and the legs are in a good position, for me at least. I am 6' tall and weigh about 180 lbs. Because you have a bit of forward lean, the pressure is also off the spine so the back feels good.

@shashidl 2 жыл бұрын

@@Scoottoots thank you for your feedback. It helps