WindClan might've come home. Bluestar (If she hadn't been killed yet) probably would send different warriors. But she probably would send Tigerstar, who would kill WindClan AND the cat who came with him.

At the end where it said “most importantly there wouldn’t have been any books,” I answered with “True,”

2:28 Featherpaw and Stormpaw would have never been born because their parents met only thanks to Fireheart.

I feel like Cinderpelt would've still been hit, WindClan brought home, there are a lot of ways that Tigerclaw could've been foiled through sheer luck.. really a lot of it is speculation, Graystripe being mates with Silverstream still is definitely happening- just alot

Firestar existing = Every single character in every series of warrior cats and every cat in that line must have a forbidden romance tied into them in some way, no changes.

Well, Brightheart wouldn't have her scar and she wouldn't be alone, and Swiftpaw wouldn't have died from the dogs because Tigerstar/Claw would have killed Bluestar and became leader so there was no reason to try to kill Firestar because he would still be Rusty. And Swiftpaw hated Cloudtail, and Cloudtail wouldn't live in the forest, so Brightheart and Swiftpaw would have been mates.

Moral: Without a Firestar everyone would die and nothing would exist.

I made a small lil thing for this, and posted it on Wattpad too. Rusty stared at Bluestar, Whitestorm, and Lionheart, and he was about to say his final answer, but he thought for a moment, and he knew he would miss his friends and his sister, who lived a couple blocks away from him. His sides heaved in and he exhaled his response, "No. I'm sorry, I truly am, but I feel that I would weaken your clan, and I would just be another moutn to feed, plus I'm a kittypet, no one in that clan of your's would want me, and my friends here would miss be dearly, I have a family here, and I don't want to leave that behind." He had spoken truthfully, and he almost regretted everything he had said, pain striking his heart as he forced himself to say these hard, yet simple words, and Bluestar's eyes darkened with disappointment. "Of course, Rusty, no worries, just don't trespass on our territory again, and definitely don't hung, or our warriors will turn you to crow-food." She spoke firmly, and her eyes narrowed, and she turned around, shaking her head, "What was I thinking? Once a kittypet always a kittypet..." Rusty stared at them with pain in his eyes as they stalked away from the fences, and Graypaw just stared at Rusty back, as if he couldn't believe what he'd had said, "We would've been good friends, you and I, are you sure?" He asked, double checking. Rusty looked away, nodding briefly, and he closed his eyes with regret, and Graypaw grunted, and his eyes flared with sadness and anger and he bolted away to the others. Rusty sighed, and returned to his normal boring life, and Smudge pounced on Rusty with joy in his eyes, "I knew you wouldn't abandon me!" He grinned, flicking his tail back and forth, but Rusty sighed, and ignored him, his collar made a ringing sound as he hopped off the wooden brown fence, and he looked back with regretful eyes. When he finally made it inside he went past his food bowl, he refused to eat any of that stuff, and he hopped up onto the counter, and saw a huge platter of food, there was a mashed potato salad to the left side, along with a huge metal spoon to scoop it out, and beside it was red wine, and kids soda. Rusty turned his head to the middle of the platter, to see a huge good smelling roasted Turkey laying there, and Rusty looked around to see Smudge giving him an amused look. Rusty turned his head back down to the platter and crept forwards, his highlight orange pelt kind of blending in with the dark orange counter, and with his teeth his sank it into the overwhelming scents of the Turkey, and he ripped off a piece, laughing with a purr of satisfaction he tore off another one, and jumped off the counter over upstairs quickly, and his Twolegs didn't even notice. He leaped up onto his Twolegs bed, and dropped the warm pieces of cooked prey, his mouth watered as the scents filled his nostrils, and with to big gulps he finished them, immediately filled up. Meanwhile, things were changing in the forest. A whole lot. StarClan was panicking, their prophecy cat refused to come to the forest! What would happen now?! Would this be the end of the clans? Redtail murmured as he arrived with the other cats, trying desperately to cope with the fact that his friend had killed him, but why? He didn't know what Tigerclaw even meant by, "Sorry, you were in my way." Redtail looked over to some more StarClan cats, who were looking down upon Spottedleaf and Bluestar. "Fire alone, will save our clan." Spottedleaf had mewed out, only somehow Redtail knew that fire wouldn't save the clan... He turned to the others who let out a fretful meow of alarm, and he saw one cat turn their heads to the direction of the kittypet houses. Bluestar said something about going to see a kittypet named Rusty, and suddenly a flash of his dreams and his possible future appeared in his mind, and fear surged through Redtail. That was the cat who would've saved the forest. That was the cat who would've stopped Tigerclaw. That cat would've been Firestar. Redtail felt his heart thump with fear, who would save the clans now..? No, nothing would save the clan. Moons later Tigerclaw had entered Bluestar's den, and he had told his warriors to leave for a patrol, a huge patrol. He had successfully killed Ravenpaw now, and no cat knew his secrets, and he knew now that he was to be considered Tigerstar, Bluestar was practically dead. He crept in slowly, and Bluestar was asleep when he had leaped onto her, sinking his teeth into her throat she yowled with pain. She twisted around and her eyes widened with fear and shock, and she felt his claws dug deep into her stomach, and she coughed, blood splattered to the ground as she fell, and she heard his words for the last time. "This was nothing personal, Bluestar..." "You were just in my way."

This just says how important FireStar was.

0:31 If Firestar and Cloudtail had stayed a Kittypet instead of becoming a Clancat, SwiftPaw and Brightpaw would most likely have become mates Reason bc, Bluestar (or if we are talking in this cenerio, Tigerstar) would have made SwiftPaw and BrightPaw warriors, meaning Swift wouldn't have gone looking for the dogs to prove that he was ready to become warrior (Bc Cloudtail isnt a Clancat) Bluestar would probably be dead bc Tigerstar would have killed her (and with no Fireheart in the way it would probably work) and he would have made Swifty and Bright warriors Leading to them being mates, Whitekit not being born aswell, and bc she wouldn't have existed, Ivykit and Dovekit wouldn't exsit And Squirrelkit and Leafkit wouldn't have been born either bc Sandstorm never met firestar, meaning the (og) Power of Three (Lionkit, Hollykit and Jaykit) would never exsit Yellowfang would probably have been chased off or killed aswell Thinking about it, the list goes on... Anyway ima continue to watch the video, thankyou for comimg to my tedtalk

Some things would’ve still had a chance of happening, for example the writers probably would’ve wanted Greystripe to still meet Silverstream and he would’ve stayed in RiverClan for his kits if Bluestar was still alive by then, as Tigerstar(while he hates halfclan kits and whatnot) would’ve refused to give them up. Cinderpelt would’ve likely still gone as well because Bluestar couldn’t go as she had just lost a life a millisecond prior from greencough. I don’t think the battle that Whiteclaw would’ve happened, tho, as Bluestar probably would’ve waited and maybe sent Whitestorm and maybe Sandstorm if she became a warrior when Firestar did. Moving onto why she became a warrior, I think she would’ve sent Sandstorm and Dustpelt with the battle patrol to ShadowClan still, as Clawface would’ve still taken the kits and they would’ve still worked to get them back. If Sandstorm and Whitestorm brought back WindClan, I like the idea that Sandstorm and Onewhisker became friends just on the journey back, but break it off when they got back. And since Sandstorm and Whitestorm tend to actually think, they wouldn’t cross into RiverClsn territory and Whiteclaw lives, Sandstorm doesn’t almost fall and die, ya know. Cinderpelt and Brackenfur would’ve been made apprentices at the same time as Brightheart and Thornclaw(which I’m pretty sure that they were apprenticed a little while before Cinderpelt’s accident), and Cinderpelt would’ve likely still had her accident, no matter who mentored her. Brokenstar would’ve likely still attacked camp, but Sandstorm and Dustpelt were warriors now and probably on the battle patrol to ShadowClan so only Brackenfur, Cinderpelt, Brightheart, Thornclaw, maybe Yellowfang(I’ll explain in a minute), and Brindleface would be in camp, with the 4 still being apprentices and more than likely not knowing a lot of battle training. For the Yellowfang case, it’s a 50/50. She would still become ThunderClan’s medicine cat as long as someone found her, which also proves a high chance she was since Bluestar herself found them when Yellowfang was eating the prey Firestar had caught. She’d just be a lot weaker. Apprentices would be tasked with caring for her, and during the kits thing she would’ve gone to save them and probably recruit the elders before the battle patrol finds her. They attack first(obviously) but the elders explain everything and so they agree to work with Yellowfang(mainly this because Whitestorm is on the patrol and Bluestar would’ve told them to listen to Yellowfang if they find her). Bluestar would also be in camp for the Brokenstar attack, but recovering from greencough still. She’d go out and fight, helping them. I didn’t mention Swiftpaw earlier, as I’ve been trying to figure out if he was in camp or not(I have been researching like a mf trying to figure out where he was as his Wiki doesn’t say) and I’ll let you know when I find out. If he was part of the battle, he would’ve been the one to go after the patrol and brought back the warriors. Known for his speed, he would’ve been back fast enough to fight some and become a warrior. He probably would’ve gotten the same Swiftclaw or Swiftfoot, or anything that shows off his agility or whatever. If he wasn’t, he’d still be able to race back fast enough to join and still get his name. The other apprentices, I have no idea as I don’t know how old they are at this point just yet, so I’d rather hold off just a little bit longer until Tigerstar makes his move. He still manages to find some rogues to attack ThunderClan, and makes the succeeding kill of Bluestar. After her death, he acts all sad solemn boy and makes Brightheart, Brackenfur, and Thornclaw apprentices. Cinderpaw still becomes a medicine cat a while ago, so she doesn’t get her name. Darkstripe is very upset when he makes the young warrior Longtail deputy instead of him, because we all know Tigerstar really doesn’t like Darkstripe. Whitestorm is helping a lot and Sandstorm and Dustpelt become mates a little before. I thought of the idea of Sandstorm and Rusty having a forbidden romance, but I changed my mind as Sandstorm saw Firestar in a new light when he saved her from nearly falling into the Gorge. I also considered Sandstorm rejecting Dustpelt, which I’ll probably do 2 timelines where this happens as Sandstorm only showed interest in a friendship with Dustpelt, nothing more. If she did reject him, he’d probably try to convince her to get with him before going to Fernpaw, as Brightheart would probably get with Swiftpaw and Cinderpelt became a medicine cat. If Sandstorm did get with him, it’d probably be a Dovewing and Bumblestripe case where she isn’t interested but got with him just cause. And if there is a chance where Sandstorm is actually interested, I’d imagine they’d be a happy couple that’d have 2-3 litters as Sandstorm always wanted more litters with Firestar but both were always too busy while Dustpelt seems happy with having big families. Anyway, moving on, Tigerstar becomes leader so no; - Scourge - Dogs - Ravenpaw He wouldn’t have gone to Scourge in order to destroy ThunderClan, the dogs for the same reason, and Ravenpaw would’ve been exiled and killed. With no Ravenpaw, I assumed that Greystripe would still be friends with Sandstorm, Dustpelt, and Swiftpaw when they’re apprentices together for a short period. Also forgot to mention that Greystripe becomes a warrior some time in between the ShadowClan battle and before Brokenstar attacks again. He still meets Silverstream, but on his own when trying to catch a fish on the frozen river or something. Silverstream still falls pregnant and dies during childbirth, in which he leaves with RiverClan after burying Silverstream as Tigerstar exiles him right then and there(he doesn’t want halfclan kits near his obvi). The fire scene still happens, killing Yellowfang, Patchpelt, Halftail, and Bramblekit as Tigerstar is too late to the scene and Yellowfang didn’t know about Bramblekit. Because they didn’t keep Brokenstar, they have no conflict with RiverClan. Greystripe would’ve still been feeding RiverClan in secret before he officially joined RiverClan, so they do allow ThunderClan to stay. On the bright side, though, Runningwind doesn’t die to Tigerstar, yay! Downside, ShadowClan has no leader at all as Nightstar died and was revealed that he didn’t get any lives at all. ShadowClan is suffering so Tigerstar, seeing a chance for power, go over and gives em a little smooch. They view him as their leader and he offers over Swiftpaw and Brightheart(Cinderpelt teaches her some herbs still because why not) and Littlecloud takes and interest in herbs from Brightheart after she saves them from sickness with Cinderpelt’s guide. When ShadowClan is doing better, Tigerstar eases Blackfoot and them back into ShadowClan, as he wants someone he can control in power. Blackfoot becomes leader after they fake a sign or an actual sign comes in, whichever works, but Tigerstar stays in ShadowClan, forcing ShadowClan and ThunderClan to become TigerClan. When Crookedstar dies, he eases the idea of him and Leopardstar getting together, to which she agrees in joining TigerClan. Goldenflower doesn’t like what’s happening, so she breaks up with Tigerstar and leaves with Tawnykit, now Tawnypaw. Brackenfur still got to mentor her, even for a short time, while Sandstorm, Dustpelt, Whitestorm, and Mousefur were the mentors of Cinderpelt, Brackenfur, Brightheart, and Thornclaw. Ferncloud went to Longtail still while Ashfur went to Darkstripe(switched it up because I can). When Sorreltail, Rainwhisker, and Sootfur become apprentices, they still go to their rightful mentors and/or change of mentors. WindClan is last to join TigerClan, though, as Tallstar doesn’t agree with what he’s doing, but does so anyway as they can’t fight 3 clans. Mudclaw seems ok with the agreement, which is why he doesn’t become deputy after Deadfoot and instead Onewhisker does. TigerClan moves into Four Trees, and still have the bone pile. Greystripe, Feathertail, Stormfur, Mistystar, and Stonefur still become prisoners due to their half clan heritage, as Greypool still accidentally tells Tigerstar who still looks like Oakheart. They manage to escape with the help of Goldenflower instead, who does what Ravenpaw did and fakes being a RiverClan cat. Goldenflower was sticking around a little, living with Barley and never speaking of Tigerstar in front of Tawnypaw. Stonefur still dies in the same way and to Blackstar’ s claws, but it’s a breaking point for both Leopardstar and Tallstar, who try to convince one another that they have to do something. They try going to Blackstar but he just rats them out, causing Tallstar’s death and Leopardstar’s imprisonment. My god it turned into an AU, damn it. Sorry if you read this far.

0:48 I disagree, Ravenpaw would have met Barley, when Bluestar visited Moonstone, Ravenpaw, tigerclaw, greypaw and firepaw joined. And when they returned Barley told them not to where the dogs are, but instead they got attacked by rats, Barley then saved them Conclusion: Yes, Ravenpaw would've died. But they did meet Barley

So we can say that Fire had a huge impact by just coming to the Forest

Well, some of these are questionable, some aren't, but is no one gonna talk about how they called Mothwing "Mothflight"? Lmao

It’s crazy to think that the smallest things can change EVERYTHING. This goes for real life too. For example, if I hadn’t watched Wednesday yesterday, I wouldn’t be here because I would’ve sat in my room, built with legos and stayed up really late, then sleep in super late and probably never have seen this video. Crazy.

This is a great video! I think you should do something where you say cats’ last words in some series. Keep up the great work!

1:07 acutally Sandpaw/Sandstorm would have fell off the Cliff if Fireheart/Star did not save her

You missed a major part. If Firepaw (heart/star) hadn't come to the forest, he would have never rescued Yellowfang, and she would either die of starvation or sickness, or she would be killed by the rest of ThunderClan, convinced by Tigerclaw (star).

Scourge might’ve still come, his vendetta against tigerstar was due to him attacking him as a kit, seen in Bluestars novella

Rusty might have been recruited by BloodClan like Barley was once but refuses to join due to his moral judgement of how they treat fellow cats thus leading Bone or Brick to kill him.

No scourge would still come to the forest BUT after he killed tiger star Lion Clan would not exist and he wouldn’t actually be killed he will kill more cats until he reaches his goal ' ' Ruling the forest ' ' Unless bone found out his secret

“Fire alone will save our clans” -Spottedleaf and Starclan

MONDAY LEFT ME BROKEN

If Firestar weren’t around, Brightheart would be Lostface.

I like to think that the entire forest would be screwed and Tigerstar would be evil ruler tyrant of them all.

At the end when it says “first of all there would be no books!” Me: “there probably be books but the books will just be very different”

The thing thought… I think if Rusty (would’ve still been his name) hadn’t come to the forest, would’ve some things been better? Let me know if you prefer the normal outcome or this one!

now I have a headcanon that after firestar loses his final life, he wakes up, back in his old twoleg nest. It was all just a really, really long dream he had. He leaves the house and steps out of the garden. Smudge meets up with him, and asks why Rusty is acting like he saw the end of the world itself. Rusty says "Fire alone will save our clan.." He walks into the forest, Smudge following him and continuing to ask questions. They eventually arrive at where the thunderclan camp is supposed to be. Smudge looks at what appears to be a torn collar. "Hey, Rusty! That collar looks just like yours." Smudge and Rusty look at eachother, scenting something. It's almost faded completely, but it smells like cats. Lots of them. Rusty and smudge head home, And Rusty lives his life normally after. He wonders about his long long dream for the rest of his days, before he passes peacefully in his sleep of old age.

If whitestorm did live till after the darkest hour, he probably would retire to the elder den

I'm making a timeline cause I feel like it: Yellowfang would have been found by a patrol and taken prisoner in camp. Tigerclaw would kill Ravenpaw after getting almost everyone to believe he was a traitor. Yellowfang probably would have been killed by the ThunderClan patrol without Firepaw and Greypaw to stop them. Spottedleaf is also dead at this point. ThunderClan would still attack ShadowClan and get the kits back. ThunderClan would then be left without a medicine cat, so Bluestar and Tigerclaw agree that one of Frostfur's kits should be apprenticed early. They choose Cinderkit, who mainly ends up being taught by Runningnose and Mudfur. Bluestar would Whitestorm and Mousefur to fetch WindClan back which they do successfully. It also ends without the Gorge fight as Whitestorm would he sensible enough not to trespass. Brackenpaw would be apprenticed to Dustpelt. Princess would never know about the Clans and so Cloudkit wouldn't become part of ThunderClan. Soon Tigerclaw launches his attack on camp with the rogues. Seeing as Fireheart seemed to be the only one spotting Tigerclaw race into Bluestar's den, he succeeds on killing her this time. He becomes Tigerstar leader of ThunderClan and chooses Longtail as deputy. Brightpaw is apprenticed to Sandstorm and Thornpaw is apprenticed to Greystripe. When Greystripe is training Thornpaw he falls into the river but is saved by Silverstream. Without any Fireheart to intervene they meet up much more frequently, so Silverstream ends up carrying Greystripe's kits quicker than in the books. Of course Thornpaw is neglected so Sandstorm ends up training him for Greystripe. Soon Silverstream's kits come and she dies but the kits survive. Cinderpelt and Goldenflower help nurse the kits back to health. However Tigerstar has other plans because he exiled Greystripe and his two kits. Greystripe goes to RiverClan and is accepted by Crookedstar. Fernpaw is apprenticed to Darkstripe and Ashpaw is apprenticed to Dustpelt Swiftpaw becomes a warrior named Swiftclaw. Brightheart and Thornclaw follow soon after. Brightheart and Swiftclaw become mates and have Whitekit together. ThunderClan and RiverClan join together to create TigerClan. Without Fireheart no one would know that Mistyfoot and Stonefur were Bluestar's kits. So only Featherpaw and Stormpaw would be taken prisoner. Longtail would be ordered to kill them both which he would do. At this point ShadowClan is completely wiped out because of both their deputy and leader dying. Most of them ran away to become rogues and loners and some died to greencough, too, refusing to leave where their Clan once stood. Tallstar decided that they needed four Clans and not two. Some WindClan cats went over to the marshland to attempt to restart ShadowClan. Meanwhile an ex-ShadowClan loner named Boulder showed Tallstar a group of cats who he think could help with the TigerClan situation. BloodClan. Scourge agreed to help defeat TigerClan but actually intended to drive all the Clans away and take the woods for himself. When this became clear all four Clans turned on BloodClan. Scourge's body was found dead in the middle of Fourtrees and BloodClan fled. Nobody admitted to killing him and they chucked his body into a hole. Tallstar and Mudstar (the new ShadowClan leader) demanded TigerClan split apart. Tigerstar and Leopardstar refused but their Clanmates started to split into two groups. Eventually Leopardstar gave in and stood in front of the group that was RiverClan. Tigerstar attempted to attack Leopardstar causing her to do the same move that Scourge did and he lost all of his lives. Longtail recieved his nine lives and became Longstar and chose Sandstorm as his deputy. Tell me if you want me to continue the timeline ^-^

You just got a new sub by me!

W-wait sandstorm got a youtube channel too!? Oh my starclan am in trouble now. She didn't know i love graystri-

This is awesome

Talk about one person/cat having an impact on something…

Also, no one would know SkyClan existed, and Leafstar would still be a rogue, and Sol wouldn't have become evil, and the power of three would not exist either. I actually have never considered this, but basically everything would completely change. It's actually really interesting, because a lot of the cats that died in canon are alive if Firestar didn't go to the forest, but at the same time, lots of cats died because of Tigerstar.

I love thé music choice

The single decision Firestar made all the difference. That goes to say that despite it not being real, never mess with the past cause if even a single thing is changed the entire future will be changed

"What would happen if Firestar didn't come?" Chaos.pure chaos.

and he would got that shot from the vet. and became like the other kitty pet.

Tigerclaw created the prophecy by being born. If Tigerclaw wasn't born, the Warrior Cat books would technically not exist.

The last one got me THERE WOULD BE NO BOOKS AHHHHHH

that´s why firestar is the main character of the series. He saved all the clans lol

The Firestar effect lol

I’m subscribed ❤

I think a lot of us can agree tigerstar causes the most drama

What I’ve learned from this is: WE NEED A FIRESTAR

Brightheart would not be alone, she would be with swift paw cause the attack would not of happened

Fire really did save the clan

so there is pros and cons, how interesting

love the last part- ther will be no books!

Also,if Silverstream and Graystripe never met, Feathertail and Stormfur wouldnt have been born therefore Crowfeather wouldve been named differently.

I kind of wanted dustpelt and sandstorm to me together-

I’m going to correct a few things right now, actually. Cinderpelt would probrobly still been hit because her attitude would not have changed, her bouncy disobedient self would have still gotten hit, along WITH bluestar. RAVENPAW would either been killed by tigerclaw (god the more I think of it it sounds a lot like among us) and tigerclaw would have framed someone, most likely spotted leaf, who by the way would still have dies. Also sandstorm would still have had kits with dustpelt, however they wouldn’t look the same and have different names and attributes. And from the way and the plot, windclan would not have starved, *but would have run into blood clan eventually and started problems from there*. Secondary, windclan might have died, yes. And last but not least, the dogs. They were released into the forest anyways by humans, so they would have found thier way into the clans and one way or another, because they lived in snake rocks.

im just sppoiling all the books for myself by watching all these 🥴

1:46 UHHHHHHH Swiftpaw and Bright heart are cousins...

One thing! Nobody will go to kill Stormpaw and Featherpaw since they would have never been born

But the drawings tho, they are sooo good!

FunFact: if FireStar didn’t go to ThunderClan, THE PLOT WOULDNT EXIST. You don’t need to do all these points, except for that one easy sentence. *the plot wouldn’t exist*

2:41 did you mean mothwing? Good video

Been thinking kn this for a while. A. Brighthearts mother was frostfur, meaning that, though her mate changed to swift, she could still have a white kit, therefore white kit could still exsist. B. Without firestar and after tigerstar delt with ravenpaw I imagin, graystripe leaving thunderclap to be with Silverstein. In doing so, when she kitted she would of been in camp, and had mudfur to help, meaning she might not of died AND that feather and storm would of been FULL RIVERCLAN. Though, as Silverstein lived, might of had differnt namea

everythings be like: would've, would have

Squrrielflight and Leafpool might’ve been born, but with different names and pelts. Since one of their parents is still with a mate and able to have kits

0:35 Brightheart probably would have been with Swiftpaw if he didn’t die

You're right there. Would have been no books because the first starting book is when Rusty/fire paw came to the forest and became leader so you would be correct. There would be no books

Dam Swift paw live😮😮😮

I don’t think Brambleclaw would of been still alive because he wouldn’t of survived the fire in the rising storm since that Firestar wouldn’t be there to save him when he was a kit.

Fire star did all that :0. He must be a gienus

0:48 Actually he would of still met Barley but the cats that Bluestar picked to go with her would likely of been different though. My guess is this: if Firestar never went to the forest in this story. Bluestar would of likely still brought Greypaw and RavenPaw but since Firepaw didn’t go in this universe, she would of likely taken Sandpaw or Dustpaw (or even both since they around Ravenpaw’s, Greypaw’s and Firepaw’s age but a little older) and since RavenPaw, Greypaw, and Firepaw met Barley on the way back from Moonstone cause of the rats (if my memory is correct) so yes. If Tigerstar killed RavenPaw, he would of still met Barley but even if he didn’t kill him. I would assume he went to Barley different cause of no Firepaw.

I was suprised by how many good things would have happened if he didnt come, but *NO BOOKS?! NO WAY*

Not me thinking about that damn human cat meme where they used this song for it.

It's really interesting to see how all the future cats now wouldn't have been born unless for one lucky cat. (I hate the inbreeding in these books though; like Jayfeather and Sandstorm (his grandmother basically)

Bro actually created the whole series 😭

Bro would've saved time by saying "There wouldn't be any books!" *THE END* 💀

Fire alone truly saved the clan.

The one thing I have to say is.. There could be books but rusty says no to going into the forest and stay as a kittypet but the books would probably be boring then

I’m pretty sure there would still be books as there are many warrior cat books out there that are not based on firestar at all

Its surpriseing that if one character said no it all wouldhave changed

I think Brightkit (heart) and Cinderkit (pelt) and the other kits which I forgot who that got stolen by shadowclan would probably still be there and Yellowfang would have died and when Spottedleaf died Tc would be left without a Med cat

With great happiness also comes grew sacrifice.

“There would be no books” so basically we all hate this possibility

okay this is gonna spoil up to like the 5th arc Firestar never had a choice in joining thunderclan, because for him to have made that choice he would have had to join thunderclan. Why? simple he his kits with Standstorm, Leafpool and squrrileflight, who then had Jayfeather, Lionblaze and Hollyleaf. Now, Jayfeather was able to travel to his past life to get the cats who first settled by the lake to leave to establish the tribes in the mountains, this is important because later a group of cats from the mountains would travel to establish the clans in the old forest. if Jayfeather wasn't there in his past life to vote for the cats to travel to the mountains there would have never been cats to later establish the clans! i thought way to deeply about this for years

Brokenstar would still be alive and possibly stolen all the kits from thunderclan. I think the biggest of all is that skyclan is never brought back from the dead. Tawnypelt would’ve stayed in thunderclan, goldenflower would’ve possibly had more of Tigerstars kits. They’d never go to the lake and possibly just drive out riverclan to take their territory (cause it was never destroyed), darktail wouldn’t have existed, sol could’ve come to the clans but probably not. Brightheart and Swiftpaw would have kits. I think Graystripe would’ve met silverstream and had kits. Bloodclan could’ve just invaded the forest for themselves. Yellowfang is gone. No purdy :(. No power of three. The tribe would’ve been killed or left the mountains, I’d like to think they’d be turned away by the clans and go to the gorge. Dark forest might take over but Tigerstar would’ve made them an ally. Brambleclaw would’ve probably been evil. Barley is eventually driven out of his barn and I’d like to think he’d be a loner, turn to bloodclan or be a kitty pet. Brindleface isn’t killed. I think Tigerstar makes darkstripe or longtail deputy. Mistyfoot and stonefur never find out their true mother.

Monday left me broken

Wait- WHY DID I THINK THE WHOLE TIME THAT DUSTPELT AND SANDSTORM WERE SIBLINGS- 💀💀💀💀💀💀

0:34 Brightheart wouldn't be lonely because she becomes mates with Swiftpaw

Well, let's see here: If Firestar never came to the forest then you'd basically have the same story, but a lot sooner. Everything would have happened as it did, Tigerclaw would kill Bluestar, he'd take over the forest and because the cats were REALLY stupid in the early books, no one would have been smart enough to stop him.

AND DONT FORGET... *Smudge wouldn't be waiting for him still.*

Brightheart wouldn't have been alone, she would have been with Swiftpaw. The reason that Brightheart and Swiftpaw went to go fight the dogs, is because Cloudtail became a warrior before them, so if he never came they wouldnt have had a reason to fight the dogs. Edit: I didn't watch the whole vid before posting this comment, my bad

Forget this, what if pinestar never abandoned thunderclan, then we wouldnt even need forestar cause tigerstar would be a sweet guy

The last one scared me

Cinderpaw wouldn't have hurt her leg and yellowfang would've never been a prisoner or joined the clan

Windclan would've prob still been brought home, and same with whiteclaw's death. Also skyclan might not have been back if starclan didn't think there was a worthy cat!

And don't forget that the powers of 3, Jayfeather, LionBlaze and HollyLeaf wouldn't have been born either. That also means that everything would have fallen to doom among all the cats, not just ThunderClan. And this also means that LeafPool would never have her 3 kits, Jayfeather, LionBlaze and HollyLeaf.

and the clans would probably cease to exist because there would probably be no jayfeather and thunderclan would fall and if one clan falls al the others are doomed

And there goes most of the plot

Not to mention that Leafpool would never had been born which means that Jayfeather would never had been born which meant that Jay's wing wouldn't have voted to leave the lake which means that the Tribe of Rushing Water would never had existed which means they never would have traveled to the forest meaning there would be absolutely no clans ever at all

Maybe smudge would have a friend still

all the clan would also have been destoyed

I guess it’s a good thing Firestar came to the forest…

We can all say that it would have been bad if Firestar hadn’t come to the forest….. bad for everyone except Tigerstar (claw) Oh and to add things that probably wouldn’t have happened, Tawnypelt probably wouldn’t have gone to ShadowClan and she wouldn’t have met Rowanclaw.