Germany without Germany next?

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Bruh why is austrias borders wrong 💀

How do you guys actually believe that kiser Willhem II was anti British

@@potato0812 Perhaps I ought to have clarified that Wilhelm was particularly resentful against the English, mostly because of familial issues. It was explained in the video around 18:10 but Wilhelm was subject to traumatic medical experiences at the hands of English doctors, the same doctors who eventually failed to save his father from dying. I didn't mention it in the video since it would go too off topic, but Wilhelm also had a strange relationship with Queen Victoria, constantly seeking her attention and approval. Simultaneously he was resentful of his mother, Victoria, Princess Royal, and was constantly disrespectful to her. At the same time, he completely subverted Queen Victoria whenever she tried to influence his policymaking decisions, and it caused him to become somewhat angered at her, believing her to be 'using' his love for her as a tool to advance British interests. It's complicated, as always, with family. Wilhelm was additionally just generally erratic and impulsive, and he felt overshadowed by George V and his British family members. He had a complicated personal resentment for his English relatives and a lot of that was compounded by the naval arms race before WWI and the colonial situation in East Africa (Tanzania).

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I was about to comment the same thing

Some of Schleswig, making it post ww1 Schleswig. Not trying to be mean to the map, I make mistakes too, just something to look out for

It's not something he can actually do, it's the map on that one world map editor app, it's not customizable

@@Johia_Mapping_2Why doesn’t he just use the hoi4 or Europa universalist map

@@Johia_Mapping_2 Thank you for letting me know, I’m so sorry about my prior comment

Keiser to Austria: I don't want to play with you anymore

@@predadorchannels596 Some aspiring Austrian painter "I need to practice my painting skills more to hopefully be a proud French naturalised citizen after finishing my studies"

@@unclesam5230 Yeah, that's why it's called "alternate" history...

@@jaredvaleindeed!

That was mainly the French. The Tsar was fairly neutral on Germany and quite frankly would've preferred the Germans not get involved

alternate history is much more interesting if the topic presented is at least somewhat probable, otherwise it's just complete gibberish. the concept that WW1 would be sparked normally with Germany "just staying neutral" is just so groundless and pointless, rendering the video kinda stupid. here's a couple alternative and much more probable solutions that could yield immensely more interesting results: - what if Franz Joseph died before 1914 and Karl swayed Austro-Hungarian empire into the camp of Entente - what could possibly break out WW1 if Russia didn't guarantee Serbia's independence - what would happen if Italy would fulfill what was expected of her in Schlieffen Plan

France had some beef over 1870 but Britain and Russia had monarchs that were cousins with Wilhelm. If Germany was neutral they had no reason to fight.

yes exactly. a day before the war they were "On good terms"

To annex poland and hungry would likely not want it

Slavic Nationalists in Tsar Nicholas II's government wanted to annex Galicia.

@@EdwardSeewald._._But it’s shown at the beginning of the video before any alternate history happens?

​@@morsecode980The maps of this video seems to have many problems, that is just one of them i presume

World War I but nothing happens…

yes

If Russia doesn’t get involved, WW1 would probably just be a 3rd Balkan War

@@DeanMonsieur you know, Austria still might lose, depending on the level of support they get. This was also one thing you forgot in this video, even if Germany doesnt get involved, it will still support Austria, just to bleed Russia out. Also, as soon as Austria loses, Germany will probably occupy and "protect" Austira proper and Bohemia and Moravia, both with significant german population and the most industrialized parts of Austria. Also wouldnt it be REALLY funny if the Germans still send Lenin? i mean why not?

Will communism still be on the rise in Russia?

About Wilhelm's opinion of the British. No. Wilhelm hated the British. With his grandmother Queen Victoria, he was relatively close, he did not blame the accident with his hand on the British and, strangely enough, he was quite popular in British society before the war. If you want to do objective history, read both sides of the story. I understand, that history is written by the victors and that is why Wilhelm is still remembered as the tyrant the British media made him out to be during the war, but take a look at his early reign in detail, or his memoirs. The truth is not always what it seems at first glance.

what if the russian did not join WWI

@@meatballs9127then it would just be Austria slowly pushing the Serbian back with maybe Romania or Italy joining but that is unlikely with the threat of Germany and Bulgaria may try to get Serbia controlled areas of Macedonia

@@OndrejTheHistorian That's right, de jure, Russia had no formal or legal obligation to defend Serbia, they just stuck their nose in supporting a state that maintained relations with a terrorist organization.

​@@meatballs9127 then servia would have accepted demands by austro-hungary. the only reason they declined these demands was due to promissed russian support.

Austria-Hungary only wanted war against Serbia at worst. They knew very well they couldn't take Russia alone and would've very likely accepted Serbia's response without any German support.

The eastern german borders are also really wrong. Wmong other things you russia has memel which shouldnt be the case.

I mean it’s good enough for laymen. It doesn’t need to be 110% accurate imo

@@hotchocolateconnoisseur those are massive mistakes, not little inconveniences

⁠​⁠@@hotchocolateconnoisseurit’s not even close to right. Germany practically has 2nd or 3rd Polish partition borders. Russia annexed Galicia, etc.

@@hotchocolateconnoisseur theyre all crying about a small stretch of land. 😂

This. Unfortunately Russia annexes Galicia and Britain grows closer to Germany and Austria, to Balance the Power of Europe, is Not interesting enough for a Video eben though it is the only realistic scenario

Agreed. Too many of these kinds of scenarios forget that Britain's main political agenda concerning mainland Europe for centuries has been never to allow a major change in Europe's power dynamics.

the ottomans were basically kicked out of the balkans entirely and would not join in even if asked because they were very weak and would just get murked by russia in the caucus

How would they do that without a compromising leading to the same results because the U.S. navy wanted the Philippines and their was plenty of support to give help to Cuba

The only possibility would be to leave the caribean without a fight. And Even Then the US or other countries would try to steal away the Philipines

@@munchkin7508 that's actually quite realistic. The US only wanted Cuba. If it was given to them, Spain would most likely just kept Puerto Rico and Philippines

They started it for 100% and I am tired of everybody saying that Germany started it.

Austria-Hungary, the state with the least to gain and the most to lose from a war was also the only state seemingly dead set on starting one.

Specifically the Austrians because the Hungarian tried hard to not start it but caved in the end ( because they were the junior partner)

@@philippHD100 from a different perspective austria hungary declared war because germany backed them up

@@mr.dudbud4551 When we follow this perspective did Serbia start the war because they supported the people behind the asasination and they refused Austrias demands because they new Russia would help them.

they would have been annexed a few years later, there's no other realistic outcome

@@fancymelon5127 Unless Florida Man supreme annexes america :)

​@RileyTitchenell Thats not even alternate history, thats fiction

Like Texas after getting independence from Mexico, they will be free for a bit but would probably join US later on.

@@phasesaber5040 You must be fun at parties.

idk i dont think that Germany or britian would see the austrians getting absolutley murked and manhandled and go "Hey italy, chill out with the annexing" They would realize that it's wraps for the austrians and just let it happed cuz theres no point in quarreling about it, besides the territories italy takes here are basically italian anyways

@@steelforge2346 eh italy always greatly exaggerated about where italians live. the only actual territories with and italian majority are the southern half of the trento province and the city of trieste. austria can be forced to cede these to italy for neutrality i guess but i truly dont believe germany and britain wouldnt do anything they could to keep austria alive considering its germanies closest ally and how obsessed the british were with their balance of power

i mean the man needs content bro

how is it betrayal germany litterally never said "I will unconditionally support you" in this timeline

@steelforge2346 realistically, Germany will still provide other help, send resources and provide volunteers, and I can see both Britain and Germany forcing Russia and Austria to negotiate a white peace when it is clear that Russia as winning as no one wants Russian domination. I can see the polish, ruthenian, serbian and romanian territories being taken but the rest of Austria-Hungary surviving, I can see Italy being forced to stay out of the war too. The end result is a much smaller Austria-Hungary that is much more weaker and dependent on Germany....but to the misfortune of the Hungarians, the fact that there's now fewer minorities means that the Austrian portion of the nation can now be more dominant, allowing for more easier stabilisation. If This new Austria-Hungary collapses, I can see Germany annexing Austria and keeping bohemia and slovakia as a puppet If it stablises and survives, I can see it as a close German aligned ally and a buffer

Germany not promising military help to Austria-Hungary would discourage the Austro-Hungarian military leadership from declaring war as, although not official allies, Russia had a very close relationship with Serbia. Also, everybody in Austria-Hungary knew the poor state of the army in a war against Russia.

Spot on. The different shades represent different levels of influence (for example, Russia had some influence on Romania due to geography, but not nearly as much as it did Serbia or Bulgaria), but also just to differentiate the countries.

@@DeanMonsieur OH alr perfect thx

What? Austria always had Galicia during Napoleonic Wars, they only lost East Galicia to Poland after the lost 5th Coalition War in 1809.

Meh, not really. Nicholas was already (slowly) beginning to reform the Russian Empire into a modern state. So long as he didn't attempt to limit the influence of the nobility, reform was happening. Hell, you might even see the Russians adopt the German model for the government

It even gets more laughable when you realize how much of an incompetent commander he was during WW1. Austria-Hungary's only major success in WW1 was against Italy, but that credit goes to Boroevic, not Conrad.

Britain die Not wann to destroy Germany, maybe weaken it. But every British politician new, Germany was necessary to keep Russia in check. Britain for centuries always wanted a Balance of Power.

@@munchkin7508 Britain was deeply jealous of the German economy and feared that Germany would take over British place as the trading superpower, and saw it the same as if Germany would want to destroy Britain, also through propaganda, which influenced Brits a ton. Edward 7th also hated Wilhelm and Germany and did everything to diplomatically isolate Germany.

@@3chmidt yeah no shit. Britain did not like Germany, did not say anything to the contrary, but destroying Germany and allowing Russia habours in the mediteranean? No military east of the Rhine River able to stop Russia from taking over the whole of Europe. Thats delusional man.

@@3chmidt Destroying Germany? No army able East of the Rhine River to stop Russia from dominating the entirity of central Europe. Russia Ports in the mediterean Britain fought a century to prevent that. Sure Britain die Not Like Germany but Theo Head more than 2 Brain cells.

@@3chmidt 1 day before ww1 in real life british foreign ministers said "Germany and Britain are on good terms", look it up it's true. They would realize that russia was the bigger threat and swallow their pride because they arent idiots

Cool idea!

Nah Britain just allowing Russia to overthrow the Balance of Power, which Britain has tried to maintain for centuries?

The south remains on pair with the north. Today Italy would be richer than France and just a bit poorer than Germany.

then there would be a scramble for asia

Or a scramble of oceania

Damn you're right... they all look like triplets

Kaiser Willi has the distinctive mustache and no beard

France would never allow it

I’ll put it in my notes for ya

@@DeanMonsieur Thank you! I genuinely love your videos, they're always so fascinating

This is a good point, although perhaps the Russians wouldn't necessarily allow this in the postwar treaties.

Well, one side would not allow and the other would have insisted. Germany could have "sent support" (occupying the respective areas), befor the CZ Republik was established. That would have been a swift action. As a consequence, Russia +some assisting countries would have had to start a new war against a prepared, unexhausted German Empire. This isn't promissing either - as long as France could be held at bay!