@woooudo Was barely an opinion at all, but just the reality on the ground, so why hyperindividualize his point and claim they’re the only ones to even say something like that?

@woooudo Nice turn of phrase with “femturdism”. Still stupid, but a heck of a lot better than the oxymoronic “feminazi”…

I miss screwattack’s and gameattack’s old videos. I hope you and the rest of the crew are doing okay Craig😭😢

@@starwieldr929 same I've been try to find the early game attack stuff can't find anything 😫😫😫😫

Yes bring it back. You know it was your baby all you talk about are those days and they was great times so bring it back.....but whatever you do don't hire Frosk oh and with that said try not to be a G4

I miss their old videos

Yeah, I remember I was a night supervisor at a call center for a couple years and I would just binge SA content. Always enjoyed Screwing Around and other stuff. I was worried when it sold that it would change, and of course it did. But that's life I guess.

I was in the ProJared Hard News era

Duuuude yesss! Hard News with Destin was the best. C:

Searching the screw attack playlists worked a while back wonder if it still does

I remember someone put together a screw attack playlist. The videos aren't gone they are hidden

Yep! 👍

Jose posted some very nasty things about screwattack and specifically craig as a boss on his twitter some time ago (now deleted and his twitter privated) so I don't think Jose is coming back.

There's no way Backstabbing Craig is gonna call Tom

@@tommoore2012 truth.

The world is political and games are a reflection of the current climate of politics. Always have been

@@TheAustinDelgado yeah man. Can’t play Toe Jam and Earl without a mountain of politics leaking out. /s

@@jacksonteller3973 nice strawman.

@@SchmergDergen look beyond the game itself and you will see it was not created in a vacuum. All art is influenced by the time and politics of its era

I wouldn’t say “ashamed of its past,” but evolving with the times. The audience is not the same, it’s a mixture of old and new. Many vitriolic people harass the current iteration and call for the “old days,” with vitriol and irrationality. Personally if I kept being crapped on for irrelevant things I may not have kept my head as cool as Frosk. It’s quite easy to feel sympathy for those who are unfairly treated.

@@TheAustinDelgado Fair point, but I’d argue the fact they kept dwelling on it is what made people tune out so quick. They’re a business. The customer has zero obligation to continue watching. If a mistake was made on their end, they tend to respond with a condescending tone and ignore the core argument just going on the defensive. Were some people shit bags to that host? Definitely. But who cares? It’s just internet noise by the end of the day that really has zero ramifications. It’s the internet, it’s going to happen. Her response certainly didn’t do her any favors. She’s essentially punching downward and giving the impression that they’re a bigger deal than they actually are. It’s all useless controversy that could have been avoided by having some thicker skin and focus on making quality content that people can tune the troubles of the world out of.

@@AmityFeatures despite it being the internet, there are real people who make those comments. As a business owner, I have to have a lot of patience for clients. However, at a certain point , it isn’t “the customer is always right,” if they’re being irrational to an erratic or harmful degree. Taking a stand can be helpful and beneficial even from a business stand point; and when it’s personal it doesn’t make the person defending themselves “bigger than they are,” it makes them not as small as they vitriolic person describes them. It makes them equal

"Politics ruin gaming" Said like a true clown

Exactly! 👏🏼

The gaming and anime communities have actually done a better job than most in gatekeeping the screeching harpies that want to inject identity politics and CRT in every facet of society. But they do have vast swathes of the mainstream gaming spaces infected with this nonsense so it will still require tremendous effort to keep the zealots out.

Easy allies are there if you want gaming content.

@@jacksonteller3973 they are, only if you let them...

@@jacksonteller3973 ScrewAttack had no trouble doing this sort of thing without politics so it can be done. Anyone else outside said whatever they wanted (even about ScrewAttack itself), but it was never acknowledged while ScrewAttack kept doing its thing. Closest thing they ever had to that was that debate with Jack Thompson and that was more about violent video games and even then they made absolutely sure it was civil.

@@jacksonteller3973 wrong troll? You make no sense

I get asked that a lot. Would be great to do that and get it back for the community but I’d have a hard time asking for 200k (plus more after platform fees). And honestly, I don’t think it’s worth that considering it’s been shelved for years.

@@SideScrollersPodcast You never know until you try right? Why not give it a shot? It sucks you'd have to buy back content you made but those videos are worth it and maybe they'd negotiate?

I got that hat dog. It's dope.

Well Metroid is back finally so at least people are gonna get the reference. 😂

I always have my ScrewAttack lanyard for my keys to this day haha

Same here. Sexism is wrong, but that’s not what it was about. She legit doesn’t know/care enough about games to be in the position she’s on. And then to shut down all criticism by crying sexism is terrible. Especially taking into account G4s history. It’s hypocrisy at its finest

Me too! Best era.

I feel bad for Jared, Scott, and Arlo... They had their dream ruined by a selfish Frost...

Calling it a “meltdown” is, in my opinion, a bad way of characterizing it. It gives it a negative connotation when I think it was a pretty dope thing overall

Redemption?

When i started watching g4 it was in the middle. The tech tv stuff just left the air screen savers ect. I loved cheat and xplay, watched some attack of the show and it was ok. After it died i felt everything came back on KZfaq, fans seem to have made their own versions of those shows and i was happy with that

It is garbage... It's like Syfy Wire's live show on a lower budget.

@@ccateni28 Jeez, can't be worse than the last years of the cable channel where it was just endless Cops reruns can it?

@@jamespuso1627 It's worse... At least Cops the show knew what the subject matter was and talked about it with respect and knowledge. G4 hired nobodies who didn't even know about gaming or even the old network.

@@ccateni28 Long comment but felt like giving impressions lol Just watched about 5 videos from them and specifically looked up the big meltdown by this Frosk character. I guess some thoughts on them specifically...saw 2 of the Sonic the Hedgehog videos from July, an XPlay one about 3D Sonic games from Adam Sessler and a top 3 Sonic games from a bunch of newcomers I don't recognize. I thought the newcomers were honestly a bit better than Adam with respect to this particular subject since it felt at least like the main guy reading the top 3 knew Sonic pretty well, that Frosk character admitted to not having played Sonic 3 and Knuckles but had valid enough critiques of Sonic Adventure 2. That third woman whose name I already forgot didn't look to add much though Sessler on the other hand with the are there any good 3D Sonic games segment seemed to quite intentionally skip Sonic Colors and disregarded that half of Sonic Generations was 3D which had merit and would have made the topic a bit less one sided to drive home his point that to him the answer is no. Also watched an older new XPlay about Breath of the Wild and Breath of the Wild 2, which I absolutely loved since he seemed to have the exact same criticisms of Breath of the Wild I had and I thought I was the only one who had them, I disagreed with him that the old Zelda formula was stale but I guess that's an opinion a lot of people had so...good review and good suggestions for 2 there IMO. Then I watched a more recent one with the XPlay of God of War 2018 which I'm currently playing with a friend of mine and the one on LGBT representation in games from last year. I got some spoilers on God of War and I don't know if I'm far enough in to say how much I agreed or not with it, and I was a little lost on the LGBT representation in games one since the only one the college student Sessler brought it to speak on mentioned as a favorite I played was Hades but I guess based on what I do know I thought what they had to say was valid at least and in particular I thought that the God of War one was probably something of a roundabout way of addressing how and why G4 themselves is changing the way they brand themselves. Obviously like Craig said in the video...it's kinda weird to just run from what they were. Of course a segment titles "Olivia's rack" would NEVER fly today and it does feel to a degree that they're ham fisting diversity now to try to fix that without really acknowledging much which I mean is awkward in some cases but...ya know I almost find this preferable to the old brand there. It's disingenuous but there was always a sort of sleazy dis-ingenuousness to G4 with that sort of thing. I mean, I feel like Frosk is certainly more knowledgeable about games than Olivia Munn was about games or tech but I'd have to watch more to be sure. I'm not knocking Morgan Webb's gaming cred but Munn was just felt like saying "hey nerdy high school guy whose never getting laid, here's a piece of eye candy the likes of which you're never gonna tap", which was an aspect of it I never quite cared for.