on the other hand, something like 15% faster projectile speed for all units seems like a nice civ bonus

What another Age of empires Spirit of the Law type Channel! hell yea I'm in!

There should be a bonus or tech that makes your mangonels deal less damage to your own units, kinda like siege tanks in Wings of Liberty campaign for SC 2

I think ballistics will make mangonel alot more deadly at higher level. It is not simply an alternative to micro, but to combine both. It depends on micro capability but think of it as if someone trying to micro 2 groups of mangonel at the same time and atk ground at 2 spots instead of a big group atk ground in 1 spot. You can let half of the mangonel to just target and micro the other half, effectively creating more strike zones which is hard to maneuver.

Very interesting and a lot of potential. I think locking behind a castle age UT is suitable. Sidenote: I like your new mic/voice setup

It will be fun to see this being implemented for sometime just make ballistics effect the mangonel line and see how it goes things on paper may be different to how they actually fare on ground

tbf, we have ballistic scorp, ballistic bbc already. It seem ok to follow that recipe, i think it is fine for imperial tech and aiming for post-imp usage rather than early imp/castle age. So like giving the same treatment as arquebus or torsion engine with cost adjust in between is my opinion

I think the reason they chose to not give ballistics in the original game is due to the fact that mangonel line unit attacks have a massive return for the resource invested already in potential. This potential will not always realize but will definitely increase drastically if they get ballistics.

I agree with it will be too op in castle age but would be okay in other situation. Also one thing is AI onagers would be so scary but player onager still can't hit AI's units as you want

What if Supplies swap places with Gambesons in the tech tree and reworked to "reduce infantry population space to ½"?

What if the civ gets the Ballistic Onagers but not the Siege Onagers upgrade? I think it would be an interesting twist on late game siege.

1:20 dude this is lit! How'd you do that? Btw congratulations! You have earned a new subscriber

Attack ground for petards feel utterly wasteful. Though and interesting bonus for them would be : petards can turn invisible when immobile. Which would allow using them as minefields. (To avoid excessive cheese to avoid defeat, invisible petards wouldn't count toward the minimum unit limit to stay ingame)

How odd, in the Iron Age they knew how to predict fire stones ;--))

I love the idea and honestly dont even mind if it ends up being overpowered for a few months!!

Hi Admiral, I have a suggestion for a video: if you could select two civilizations at the beginning of the game and combine all their bonuses, which would result in the most broken combinations?

Petard attack ground is like going to destination and press delete, shouldn't be much of a hassle to implement

I can argue that even though it is a different game, you can see the efect of guided mangonel in AOE4. There the projectile is tracking there... For that to work they balanced the unit around that... but I still don't really like it. It skews the balance a lot in the favour of the mangonel user, making dodging a lot harder, since you have to actually go for a split sacrifice - more akin to starcraft micro... I would say that it could be interesting to try balistics on mangonel as a late game bonus, as that still lets you dodge (not being tracking) and it could make it more viable for low skill players. Another tangent is that in AOE4 is that you have a guaranteed long range counter to it. This is not the case in AoE 2, as not everyone has access to bombards. Making it harder for low skill players to counter them.

But, what about ballistics trebuchet?

How about mangonel line along with getting affected by ballistics, also dont do any friendly fire damage?

I'm also curious on how this would effect A.I players like in campaigns, where their units would always automatically try to dodge the shot as soon as it's fired, which makes using Onagers there quite different compared to multiplayer. If the Onager with Ballistics were to just shoot in the direction of where the enemy unit was headed before the shot was fired then it could potentially be even worse since they'd be even further away from the target area by going in the opposite area when the shot is fired. Of course they could also continue moving in the same direction to "dodge" the shot, making it actually hit them. So it would be kinda hit or miss (haha) in A.I situations. One solution to this would be for the Ballistics Onager to predict where the enemy unit would go after the shot is fired, so it would for example shoot behind the enemy unit since that's where they would go if the Onager fired its shot and didn't have Ballistics. I think that would remove a lot of the frustrations I have with them in campaigns at least

Auto micro, auto macro auto build, lets just auto play! Absolute bop, god bless ol Emm Bee

game desperately needs petard civs and bonuses

I almost never use onagers but I think they would be OP if you gave them perfect accuracy, archers would become almost useless in imperial age, I don't play online but I can defeat the extreme ai and they currently aren't able to make good use of them against me but with this they would destroy my archers lol.

30 seconds into the video you see a wolf tech logo, anybody know what that does?

AoE I dramatic vibes

Well the Incas slings has ballistic so why not?

Let's auto-everything!

remove the wood discount from koreans and give them this one!

What if monks didn't have ballistics?

For the Algorithm!

Catapults in the ROR dlc benefit from ballistics and tbh I absolutely hate it. They're extremely oppressive especially to infantry (and they have a huge blast radius) and it's the #1 thing that kinda ruined it for me

BROKEN, but give it to scorpions

"micro" is a bad excuse for terrible game design

onagers are absolute garbage in pve