What If Sacred Stones Had Personal Skills?

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Dani Doyle

Dani Doyle

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I love personal skills. They add a ton of character to units while interacting with mechanics in (usually) interesting ways. As such, I thought it would be cool to theroycraft personal skills for all of the games that don't already have them. I've done a few other games already, but now it's time to tackle one of my favorites, the sacred stones. The goal isn't so much "balance" as it is "fun" and "flavor", though if something can help make a unit more enjoyable to use, its a nice bonus.
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Fire Emblem Engage--Trial of The Sacred

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@Valentine011
@Valentine011 6 ай бұрын
"I dont believe in giving units class skills as personal skills" "Didnt you just give Larachel one?" "I dont believe in consistency"
@Luigiofthegods
@Luigiofthegods 6 ай бұрын
Gilliam's ability is way too tame: instead, he should have the FE7 Kishuna magic seal around him at all times -and have to die on a specific turn of a specific chapter to unlock the worst gaiden you've ever seen-
@DaniDoyle
@DaniDoyle 6 ай бұрын
His death only unlocks the new chapter if you're playing on a save file that has super trainees unlocked
@shanegiorgio4713
@shanegiorgio4713 6 ай бұрын
@@DaniDoyle and you leveled Tethys to level 7 in the prologue story that FE 8 obviously has
@dominicjannazo7144
@dominicjannazo7144 6 ай бұрын
Nah, you have to have him A support all the creature campaign characters and max all his stats, then visit a secret shop with the member card, giving him a solo map on that one map that's only used for monster skirmishes, and that unlocks a joke conversation with Seth about eating fried food or something.
@Valentine011
@Valentine011 6 ай бұрын
For Rennac, i think instead of going despoil we go fe5 Capture Personal skill Bribery: Rennac can use the "Bribe" command to pay 1000× enemy level (promotions count as +20) to open a trade window with an enemy unit. When the trade concludes, the enemy flees the map. Bosses are exempt from this ability.
@DaniDoyle
@DaniDoyle 6 ай бұрын
ohhh neat, i like that idea!
@judeloveless9427
@judeloveless9427 5 ай бұрын
It's cool, but it's just so expensive that it's almost never worth doing over just killing the enemy. Most enemies with good weapons'd cost like 25,000+G just to trade with
@Valentine011
@Valentine011 5 ай бұрын
@@judeloveless9427 yeah its not like, playtested or anything lol. i just thought itd be nice to give Rennac a skill with gold expenditure since hes a gold sink unit and using a mechanic to get enemies off the field without a fight, which seems his style. plus its not hard to get loads of money in SS so this would really be for getting rare stuff its hard to get in shops and getting rid of annoying enemies. also necrodragon breath.
@that_dude_over_there
@that_dude_over_there 6 ай бұрын
The only thing I can think of for Renae is some kind of Pay command that buffs up his stats for one turn. Playing into his greedy nature.
@shanegiorgio4713
@shanegiorgio4713 6 ай бұрын
I feel like I've heard of this idea for a personal skills video before but it was for Volke instead
@that_dude_over_there
@that_dude_over_there 6 ай бұрын
@@shanegiorgio4713 could be, I’m not denying that I probably heard it before. I’m just saying it works
@compsognathus3106
@compsognathus3106 6 ай бұрын
Good news, Neimi, you get an easily maintained buff. Bad news, the one thing you used to have going for you, your quick support with Colm, sucks now. Still an overall improvement.
@Not_Alanius
@Not_Alanius 6 ай бұрын
Hey, there's also that sweet 3 tile distance where Ill Behavior doesn't affect Neimi. But yeah, still not very fun.
@osfe_
@osfe_ 6 ай бұрын
I think having Seth’s personal be some sort of nerf could be interesting. This is definitely more gameplay than story/character-based, but something like FE10 mercy so he can only ever set up kills might be nice, although that might just completely take the fun/challenge out of setting up kills in general. Or maybe something tied to the injury he gets from Valter at the start of the game, where he gets like -20 hit if he’s below 100% HP to reflect his injury flaring up or something. Would help balance out how insane he is otherwise and could make him a bit more interesting to use
@assortmentofpillsbutneverb3756
@assortmentofpillsbutneverb3756 6 ай бұрын
I generally agree for great units, but Seth is the exception to me. He is just supposed to be the heroic God teir knight in shining armor and its fun to further support that trope when it's only one unit
@lystia
@lystia 6 ай бұрын
being hypocritical over something involving l'arachel is unbelievably based
@Flipercat
@Flipercat 6 ай бұрын
So Duessels skill is basically just reverse devil axe.
@DaniDoyle
@DaniDoyle 6 ай бұрын
In a way yeah lmao didn't think of that
@atumegaenter9139
@atumegaenter9139 5 ай бұрын
hi nice video, i think that Colm skill becomes obsolete very quick, and i don't like the idea of having to hurt Neimi intentionally to make use of the skill, so here is new effects for both. Neimi - Hunt Mate: the user and all adjacent ally's would ignore enemy terrain bonuses and gain 1.3 of extra exp. for defeating monsters. Neimi has experience at hunting and camping so i imaging that her main contribution to the army is help people to fight not human enemies. Colm - Master Snatcher: after a successful steal/unlock, the user get a +50 hit and avoid until the start of the next turn. Colm is introduce by casually snatching the main macguffin right under Erika AND Seth noses, so he is much better at stealing that other characters give him credit for, so for doing thief stuff, he get's such a confidence boost that he becomes untouchable for the rest of the turn, suits him very nicely.
@chewyster3033
@chewyster3033 6 ай бұрын
Recently fell down the Fire Emblem KZfaq Rabbit hole after only knowing of Ghast. Been Loving binging your videos, Keep it up.
@nicocchi
@nicocchi 6 ай бұрын
Wouldn't it be funny if stuck close to their FEH Prf weapons, if applicable? Eirika and Seth would have a very tame couple of effects: she buffs Atk for 1 turn, and also copies any stat bonus that adjacent allies might have, while Seth has a stronger weapon triangle advantage AND disadvantage. And then Gilliam is an actual god on earth, with the tamest of his effects being a walking Iote/Delphi/whatevertheantifliereffectiveshieldiscalled Shield. Imagine being a chapter 1 unit released 6 years after the game came out, in a game notoriously rife with powercreep. Fomortiis would also be unironically terrifying.
@bongosmcdongos4190
@bongosmcdongos4190 2 ай бұрын
I love that you took one look at bishop artur and just went "ok yeah, what if we just made him even more fucking cracked at his one job"
@lesmoonwalker
@lesmoonwalker 5 ай бұрын
Imagine the Fall of Renais, but Fado just sits on the throne summoning Armors. Valter would probably like the endless bloodshed, but if I were leading that siege I'd just go home, Vigarde be damned.
@DaniDoyle
@DaniDoyle 5 ай бұрын
Imagine this scenario but valters personal skill keeps procing with each armor that dies, making him infinite power 🤣
@Ermdagothwhat
@Ermdagothwhat 6 ай бұрын
I love the idea of status effect skills like Gilliams. Give Ilyana a skill that makes her go to sleep every other turn. Give Berserkers a percent chance to have berserk for a turn. Be wild. Untethered
@zoesequeira5388
@zoesequeira5388 6 ай бұрын
I don't think Ilyana needs a skill to make her less useful
@knightofarnor2552
@knightofarnor2552 6 ай бұрын
I feel like I would make it so berserk units get a stat boost if I were going to saddle Berserkers with that.
@nigini6092
@nigini6092 6 ай бұрын
The only thing I would change is that too many skills rely on luck. A skill proc would work better. Otherwise, great job
@hakkesho12
@hakkesho12 6 ай бұрын
Such a creative video, can’t wait to watch more of this series! Vanessa, Tana, and Saleh’s are so flavorful on top of being pretty useful! I also love how Ross/Colm/Marissa/Knoll’s skills have risk-reward aspects that condition you to treat them more like characters with their own quirks, instead of just moving them around like chess pieces haha. And Orson’s is fucking hilarious 💀
@zeoxyman
@zeoxyman 6 ай бұрын
Good list I think. I really like L'Arachel's and Ewan's (finally, a reason to go Super Pupil!) I think for Ross, I wouldn't give him the -2 damage effect. In the base game, I like that early on he's easily doubled and killed, so you have to play carefully at first. Having an easy defense boost would undercut that. Maybe a bonus to avoid instead, as a sort of beginner's luck? (And he can keep the boost to his own damage, that part's great)
@colonelshades9991
@colonelshades9991 6 ай бұрын
That Joshua skill would be way too good. His supports with Gerik and L’Arachel allow him to hit >80% crit
@DaniDoyle
@DaniDoyle 6 ай бұрын
I mean, if you're support grinding and deploying l'arachel, as well as keeping her out of enemy range while in support range, I think you earned the payoff tbh
@manapeajuice
@manapeajuice 6 ай бұрын
babe wake up new dani doyle vid
@chaosvolt
@chaosvolt 5 ай бұрын
My main man Joshua gets to be an even bigger destroyer of worlds than he already is, hell ye.
@DarkSoulsSauron
@DarkSoulsSauron 6 ай бұрын
i like Gilliam 's trait but also i think having Janaff's personal skill would work for him since he's got a support with Neimi talking about his incredible eyesight+ vigilance. it would also fix his awful hitrates
@DaniDoyle
@DaniDoyle 6 ай бұрын
Oh makes sense, I dig it. I prefer mine a little bit but that's mostly because I think it's funny yours would definitely be better while still being flavorful.
@ImFangzBro
@ImFangzBro 5 ай бұрын
Me, I think Seth's should be like "Enemies within attacking range give 25% more EXP." That would be a unique way to spin it that could be easier for the GBA to handle, since it doesn't like dividing by anything that isn't an exponent of 2. Addendum: Okay, so more opinions added. Ross - Warrior's Spirit: Strength, HP, Defense and Resistance growths are doubled if the enemy is a higher level. Promotion is considered +20 levels. Lute - Studious: Might is increased depending on the level required to use the weapon- E is 0, D is 1, C is 2, and so on. Joshua - Rigged Bet: Skill determines Crit Evade instead of Luck, with a 50% increase. Luck's effect on accuracy and evasion is halved. Forde and Kyle - These seem fine, but I would make it trigger on being next to L'Arachel, Joshua, Tana, Innes- pretty much any other royal person, not just the Lords. They needn't be on the same side, either. Amelia - Room to Grow: Upon level up, double the stat gains for up to two stats. Doubled stat gains for all your level-ups is just wayyy too OP. Ewan - Adaptable Knowledge: This one is decent, but I feel like it should also allow you to have multiple S ranks- as a thematic thing that gives him a bonus once he doesn't need to rank up his weapons anymore.
@rekenner
@rekenner Ай бұрын
The Amelia one proposes interesting questions such as, "if a unit at level 15 unpromoted has strength, skill, and speed capped, but still has better growth than every other unit in the game, do you promote them so they can keep gaining in those stats or keep leveling them up? Given that she caps every stat but res by 10/15/10, uhh ... Yeah that Amelia personal makes her S tier on Eirika, given that as a level 1 Cav she's already really good. 28 hp, 10 str, 13 speed, 7 def. And then has growths close to Myrrh.
@Yutopeia
@Yutopeia 5 ай бұрын
i really love this! i may become a patron when i get paid tmr, i wanna see more personal skills
@DaniDoyle
@DaniDoyle 5 ай бұрын
I'm glad you like the video! Full disclosure about the patron, I have already recorded the next 5 weeks of videos since my wife will be in the hospital for surgery so I won't be able to record, so the credits will not be updated until mid march
@bongosmcdongos4190
@bongosmcdongos4190 2 ай бұрын
Love what you did for lyon, partly because itd have served me well in my reverse recruitment run (3 summoners!!) but i feel you could push it further. What if instead he could ALSO summon blue monater units? I understand having 2 bonus skills is a bit much, but lyon is essentially a trophy character, hes your goofy fun reward for doing a basically pointless challenge. For that reason i think its ok if he breaks convention.
@DARKMalice9000
@DARKMalice9000 5 ай бұрын
I know I am late to this. Would Eirika and Ephraim 's personal skill be combined when near to each other. For example Lunar and Solar Presence like when Engaged makes Eclipse Presence?
@declanm810
@declanm810 6 ай бұрын
Some of these are really cool :) I especially like the Eirika and Ephraim ones, they feel really flavourful. The question is if it would trigger of of their luck stats or the adjacent units luck. My only experience with Sacred Stones is via the Sacred Trilogy hack which already adds the skill system to the game, so I’m not actually used to playing it without them. A lot of these would make great replacements for that
@wannabecinnabon
@wannabecinnabon 2 ай бұрын
I think it was a little disappointing to just give Lyon a skill based on the Demon King, so I made one more to reflect himself--Demonic Overlord would be the personal skill of the boss Lyon on Eirika route, while his personal skill on Ephraim's route would be: Demonic Ascendant For every monster unit within a 4 tile radius, gains +1 attack and -5 avoid. I wanted to contrast the Demon King's affinity for empowering his minions and not really caring so much for the suit of flesh he happens to be wearing with Lyon having a skill entirely based around empowering himself, since he believes he is the one benefitting from darkness and not the other way around. Lyon has gained much, much power with every step he took towards mastering the power of the Dark Stone, yet has also become more and more oblivious to those around him and who his actions are truly serving. I think this would also be his skill in the Creature Campaign, since the playable Lyon there is using the "good" portrait as opposed to the possessed one. It would certainly be a pretty harmful skill to have in the postgame, but, hey, more big number does feel very FE8 dark magic.
@17Master
@17Master 6 ай бұрын
Crazy that Epholo8 dropped a video on the same idea on the same day. Also I see that Red Cavalier bias poking through.
@DaniDoyle
@DaniDoyle 6 ай бұрын
They have basically the same skill (linked pair) where is the bias?
@zeoxyman
@zeoxyman 6 ай бұрын
15 Crit usually matters a lot more than 15 Hit in this game. If this was FE6 then I think they'd be more balanced. I was expecting an avoid boost for Forde; now I'm kinda thinking whether Kyle should grant both hit and avoid to keep up with Forde.
@DaniDoyle
@DaniDoyle 5 ай бұрын
I actually disagree. I think crit boosts are significantly less useful than hit boosts, because it's still going to be a low number. GBA lacks crit stacking tools that modern games have, whereas hit boosts can reach 100% which is a huge reliability threshold. My logic for these skills also wasn't "red cav bias", but the pre-established pattern of "red cav hot headed, green cav calm"
@medalkingslime4844
@medalkingslime4844 6 ай бұрын
Does Caellach's skill stack? So like if he attacks you after his entire army suicides into Seth he's just basically god for a turn?
@DaniDoyle
@DaniDoyle 6 ай бұрын
Yes, so you should try to avoid allowing him to attack you after his entire army suicides into Seth 💀 (maybe this is the only way Seth could die)
@StirFryTuna
@StirFryTuna 2 ай бұрын
Honestly would just give Eirika and Epharim consisent personals. Eirika: adjacent allied units ignore 20% defense Epharim: adjacent allied units heal 20% damage deal We already get deal +3 damage personals in modern games, so no need to nerf Eirika and Epharim with luck% chance to proc. If its not consistent, then its irrelevant.
@cherrytree3400
@cherrytree3400 6 ай бұрын
ross should probably also get an exp bonus (1.5x maybe?) when activating his skill. that way, each of the trainees has an ability that helps them grow, ross gains levels faster, amelia gains more stats on level up, ewan gains weapon rank faster (at least post promotion, where he effectively gets 2-3x w.exp, and also probably gets multiple s ranks)
@DaniDoyle
@DaniDoyle 6 ай бұрын
If he's attacking a higher level enemy, Ross already gains more experience due to the way the exp formula works. Gaining even more on top felt a bit too strong for me, especially since it could stack with Seth too
@cherrytree3400
@cherrytree3400 6 ай бұрын
@@DaniDoyle fair, i forgot about seth already boosting exp gain. also don't know why i jumped straight to 1.5x when the other exp modifiers you have are 1.2x
@DaniDoyle
@DaniDoyle 6 ай бұрын
1.5 was awakenings attempt to balance the way to strong 2 from tellius but it turns out 1.5 is still very very strong (and basically the entire reason robin is broken) I think 1.2 is a much balance personally
@UniGya
@UniGya 2 ай бұрын
Amelia’s skill is so busted I love it, who needs good growths when you’re taking steroids?
@gilbat1
@gilbat1 6 ай бұрын
Wait, how does Ross's skill interact with the fact he gets two promotions? If promotion adds +20 levels, wouldn't he count as being level 21 as soon as he gets out of journeyman (meaning it won't work on any of the enemies you'll encounter at that stage of the game), and level 41 when he gets his second tier class?
@DaniDoyle
@DaniDoyle 6 ай бұрын
Journeyman being tier 0 would count as -10 levels, not 0 levels
@gilbat1
@gilbat1 6 ай бұрын
@@DaniDoyle That makes more sense, thanks for clarifying. I hope your wife's recovery goes well.
@DaniDoyle
@DaniDoyle 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the well wishes I hope you have a wonderful day too
@tylerferguson3193
@tylerferguson3193 6 ай бұрын
Hope you're having a good day c:
@henrygutierrez3243
@henrygutierrez3243 6 ай бұрын
It'd be neat if Valter got something like "Unfriendly Fire." He's able to kill his own allies and get some kind of buff....or NOT! I feel like Valter would do it anyway just for fun.
@zhoufang996
@zhoufang996 6 ай бұрын
Frankly I'd give Seth a negative personal skill. Like -20% to exp gain or something...
@kaitohsjade6597
@kaitohsjade6597 6 ай бұрын
Gheb would by far have the strongest one.
@justapassingbycommenterrem5642
@justapassingbycommenterrem5642 6 ай бұрын
Cancellable: this guy dies turn one. That's it
@thedivinedialogue9685
@thedivinedialogue9685 6 ай бұрын
nhame nhame
@serpifeu5836
@serpifeu5836 6 ай бұрын
Some of these skills feel way to strong. But of course it is just a theorycraft
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