I personally believe Shane and Carl would've still have that connection cause Shane was Ricks best friend and he was like an uncle to Carl and most likely his godfather.

maybe if Otis lived he would have ended up telling them about Sofia in the barn and they would have left sooner

Actually, even before they started fucking Shane took Lori and Carl under his own wing as his own because of the respect and friendship they had together. He didn't do it just for Rick, he did it because they were all friends before the outbreak. Lori even brings up the time that Shane fixed their plumbing issue. They were friends regardless and therefore he would still have that bond with Carl and Lori. He wouldn't just treat them as RANDOM group members.

Here’s what I think we would happen pretty much almost everything that happened in season one and two what happened up until Darrell and Shane‘s group split up to find the teenager Shane obviously wouldn’t kill Rick and since they were actually trying to look for him Shane and Rick, being two cops, they would probably be able to find him as fast as Darrell and they would all come to the conclusion that general was right Then that massive herd would come they would all run back. Will probably go with Darrell to get the guns while Rick and Glenn dies a plan to save everyone. The same amount of people would die when they go back in everyone meet up in the middle of nowhere, Rick wouldn’t really have that mental breakdown up until we get to where the prison is and the sickness strikes then we get to see the season five in season six Rick start to come out and with Lori‘s death Rick and Shane are not having it. I think the governor attack part, one and two would go, roughly the same except Rick and Shane are on vendetta to kill the governor they would and they would try to save the prison but they would be too much walkers and destruction so they eventually split up and regroup at terminus. Once again. Rick and Shane are not having any so they still take out terminus, then they regroup again And eventually find Alexandria I think here Rick and Shane would be banished from Alexandria and probably find Morgan. Then Morgan would convince them to go back to where they came from with the people and try to see if they can fit in again that’s when the abusive husband comes and kills Deanna’s Husband and they get invited back in because Deanna starts to see their way then Negan comes along, but I actually think they put up more of a fight here cause season five Rick never left. He’s still here and Negan specifically said when he saw that videotape of season five Rick, he said he would not mess with that guy and one part. I forgot to mention is Shane would’ve convinced Rick to just kill the entirety of the original prisoners so that means Tdog is here another detail I forgot to leave out is I think Merle would’ve stayed Rick and Shane would’ve seen the benefit of Merle staying and would eventually convince him to just bond with everyone so that means we would’ve had T-Dog, Darrell, Merle, Shane and Rick on the same team. They’ll put Negan down like that 🫰 and this is all that I’m caught up at the story, so I’m leaving this. What if at that? also, if there’s any spelling mistakes, I’m watching KZfaq on phone. I’m not typing all of this out. You best believe I use that voice translator thingy.

Randall would have still happened, but Shane wouldn’t die, he only did the Randall thing.

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Dose that mean Judith is dead dang