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Portugal would be Spain. The concept of Spain was nothing more than a cultural or geographical name, there was no Spanish state yet, there was a dinastic union between Castille, Aragon and Portugal. Therefore, Portugal would be included in the concept of Spain, like Aragon and castille. Btw, the Spanish armada eventhough it was destroyed during the invasion of England, didn't meant that Spaniards stop being the most powerfull armada in the world, the British were defeated soon after that during the contraarmada, for example. It was not until the reign of Philip IV and Charles II that Spain really started a rapid decline which ended up in the peace of Utrecht, after the war of succession, in which Spain losed all its territories in Europe except for the ones in the Iberian peninsula and the Balearic Islands. After that it would be a power, yet not the most powerful, and after the lost of the colonies Spain ramained as a weak country, not a power anymore.

"The world is not enough" - Iberian Union supremacy

What if Miguel de la paz stayed alive? Miguel de la paz was the recognized heir to Portugal, Castile and Aragon. He was the grandson of Isabella and Ferdinand and the son of the king of Portugal! By his birth he would be the perfect unifier without the grubby Hapsburgs getting anything. When it comes to the Iberian Union timelines it is really Portugal or the Hapsburgs.

What if the Chinese and Soviets fought each other during the Sino Soviet split. Great video as always, keep up the great work!

If Spain and Portugal has United they’ll much stronger than our timeline.

Oh lord, just imagine the eu4 campaigns...

“Supreme (Spanish) Habsburg Empire” Me: “takes off hat and cries tears of bliss at the thought”

I didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisition

What if Denmark colonized Canada? What if Spain colonized India? What if Thailand/Siam had an empire? What if Texas was Fascist? What if China was a Technocracy/Technate? What if Pharaohnates caught on/What if Egypt expanded its ideology?

I think that a part 2 of this scenario would be interesting.

I like that your redoing your old videos. Now I’m just waiting for when you do some of your more viewed videos that most of us have watched. Keep doing these redos on Saturday’s

Have you done a "what if Austria created a European Empire/Monarchy"

What if the Holy Roman Empire had not dissolved in 1806 ? What if Zoroastrianism became the dominant religion of the Middle East ? What if Jean Thiriart's Young Europe was successful in uniting Europe ?

What concerns me is Austria responding to Portugal like it did in the war of the Spanish succession.

What if england stayed Roman What if the song dynasty industrialized What if Spartacus was successful What if Julian the apostate defeated the parthians

The funny thing is that the moment I clicked on the video and before I could type anything my phone died

Or you know... D Afonso Henriques (1st king of Portugal) could just lose to his mother who would make part of leon or castille

How does this guy not have a million subs?!

Que alguien dé a este tio un libro de historia. El reinado de Felipe II fue el cenit del imperio español, no la debacle que se pinta en el vídeo. Menos leyenda negra y más leer libros, que no hace daño a nadie.

Hey Mr. Z, have you looked into making a video about britain winning the Jenkins Ear war? I haven’t seen a single video about that on KZfaq and I think it’s one of the most underrated wars ever, what if the British got to own Panama? North Colombia? Chilean Islands? Would be fascinating to look into...

What If in 1870 a von Hohenzollern became Spanish King?

Hey boys, in 1588 the Armada failed to take England, but A. The main vessels returned B. It was not the whole fleet of Spain. ... C. the next year Drake lost one third of his armada and had to flee in the azorec islands... just google " la contraarmada"

Is it just me, or does this video need a part 2?

Some detailed suggestions: What If Julius Evola Took Power: Following the increased liberalization of Italy after WW2, radical traditionalists begin gaining influence and prestige. In the 1950s, during the apex of consumerism, Julius Evola manages to become the leader of the nation. He restructures the government, creating a strong state based on the principles of asceticism, patriarchy and a warrior ethos. He is supported by conservative nobles and a radicalized youth, but liberal elements seek to bring him down. Evola purges all traces of the previous system, including the Catholic Church’s privileges, and sets Italy on an isolationist path. The nation becomes something of a European North Korea, protecting its borders and eschewing modernity. Evola inspires many people around the globe. Similar movements pop up around Europe, with their members desiring a return to the natural state of society. What If The US Joined The Central Powers REMAKE: Following the sinking of an American vessel by British ships, the United States declares war on the United Kingdom and its allies. After years of brutal warfare, the Central Powers are successful; though it’s a pyrrhic victory. Revanchist movements take power in Western Europe. Germany is forced to open up a front in Eastern Europe to subjugate the region. Canada is occupied by American troops. The soldiers that return home from the Canadian and European campaigns are physically and mentally destroyed. Though the war was supposed to be an expression of American greatness, it served as the death of the American dream. The puppet government installed in Canada following the war is unpopular, as it attempts to Americanize the Canadian population. This disgracing of Canadian culture leads to the election of an extremist leader who seeks to shake off the American yoke. Canada, Great Britain and France soon form an axis to coordinate their next plan of attack. What If Colonialism Never Ended: During the 19th-century, different colonial societies spring up around Europe. These organizations relay information regarding exotic cultures and peoples, as well as settlement opportunities. After several decades, these groups become established elements of high society, eventually taking on the form of pressure groups that represent colonial interests. Individuals from these groups often gain high positions in various colonies, sometimes gaining control themselves. The outcome of several African and Asian wars are changed due to their interference. Following WW1, these groups campaign for a softer approach to the Treaty of Versailles, so as to allow the Germans to keep their colonies. These groups eventually band together, forming a massive Pan-Colonial Society. Their goal is to unite various colonies into a single superstate, united by trade and a common European heritage (sound familiar?). What if the Caucasus United: During the Russian Civil War, various chieftains and politicians in the Caucasus overthrow local leftist leaders. To fight against both the Red and White forces, these disparate groups unite into Transcaucasia. This nation is resource rich and diverse. Local nations have cultural and political autonomy, and as such the country is a hodgepodge of different systems. Some areas are liberal and democratic, others are conservative and hierarchical. Some states host elections, others refuse. Different political organizations exist, but some are more influential and popular than others. Transcaucasia retains friendly relations with most countries, except Russia. This opens up the possibility for the nation to trade with Germany during the war, securing their much-needed supply of oil. That is, if WW2 even happens the same way it did in our timeline. American Israel: A deal is struck between the American government and Jewish leaders during the period of Jewish immigration in the 1800s. To end ethnic tension, the American government gives the Jews their own space. The Jews agree, seeing this as a way to end their poverty. This new area, "Gideon", would first be an autonomous area, but would later become an official state. Here the Jews have legislative control, their religion is prioritized and their businesses dominate. In exchange for self-determination, the American government curtails Jewish influence in media, pop-culture and economics in the rest of the country.

What if Caesar some how managed to escape his assassination

How do you make the maps for your videos?

What if Argentina won the Falklands War. What if Spain joined and went after Gibraltar

I love today’s video! Please make a video about what if Korean Empire survives and what if allies lost in the North African Front in WW2?

Very good keep it up, I think Lisbon might make a good capital until the earthquake. Greetings from a fellow althistorian my friend #PaxHistoria

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Why your map doesn't shows the full extension os mexico

Love watching them, but videos always seem so quite to me even at full volume.

Genetics is fickle enough there is no guarantee you'd have a succession crisis at the same time frame, especially changing part of the lineage. They'd have inbreeding problems, but such a complete genetic disaster as happened in our timeline is iffy.

6:45 what's the name of the map?

English and French: NO PLEASE NO! THEY WERE UNITED ONCE, AND IT WASN'T FUNNY *sweating*

6:35 bro, the slavery of natives was already illegal in Castile since the laws of Burgos of 1512 xd the Portuguese have historically been the slavers, not the Spanish

What if Charlemagne and Irene of Byzantium married, united both, forming a real roman Empire and making Charlemagne not holy but a real roman emperor

In short Spain would need a portuguese king to be able to prolongue the Iberian golden age until they were so big they would attract enemies

5:59 what is the map title?

What if Argentina and Chile united?

Whatifalthist and monsieur Z in one day what is going on

1 view, 16 likes. Great job KZfaq

Fucking hell... :))) As a Portuguese, I was fascinated with the assumptions you presented.. How did you have the time to think of all the possibilities in such a detailed and historical way, ever since the death of D. Sebastião?? hehehe... interesting to imagine the development of history in such different state of affairs... thanks ;)

that would be a very scary football team.

in an event of a EU collapse, they must join and merge as Iberian Union if they want to survive economically. Even right now if they were to join they can take over italy's GDP #4 in the EU and actually become Europe's 3th GDP since UK left anyway. This should happen and I'm 100% in agreement with an Iberian Union.

What if Maggie Thatcher was killed in the Brighton Bombing

@Monseiur Z why would England be even able to take Gibraltar at all in this timeline here? That makes no sense. During the War of Spanish Succession from our timeline Spain had been completely bankrupted by many wars. With a continued Iberian union, both countries of Spain and Portagul would be stronger. Even with a war over the succession, there's no way that Britain would be allowed to simply take Gibraltar from the Spanish just like that. Also King Phillip II of Spain wasn't actually a useless King. He was called by his subjects as Phillip the Prudent. Spanish culture also flourished during his reign as well. If the Iberian Union is continued here, and Philip is sensitive to Portuguese needs Spain could have easily allied with the Portuguese fleet to crush the English like the did in otl. Had a few changes during Philip's invasion occurred as a result of all the butterflies flying around, England could turn out to become a Catholic Nation once again. The Spanish Armada only was really defeated thanks to its original commander dying right before its campaign and bad weather.

I swear you did this one before

What if Sigismund III's prospect of a polish-Lithuanian-Muscovite union succeeded

Felipe the second was a great king and reach the heights of the Spanish power around the world, later its son Felipe III will reing over a period of stagnation and only with Felipe IV will power start to shift to France and the Netherlands. In the Anglo-Saxon mindset the Spanish Armada seems to be like the end of the Spanish empire but it was for Spain a wound, a painful one and easy to recover from. Spain will ot suffer a mayor defeat until 1648a at rocroi and kept being the strongest naval power well into the 18th century being only clearly cemented after the battle of trafalgar. The final blow that would kick Spain out of the Great power club will only come in 1898, ending a process of slow decline that started in 1648 with Felipe IV not before, with Felipe II Spain will reach its maximum expansion in Europe, he was a wise, working, serious, gifted, and committed King. His only blunder was not giving the empire a heir fit for the job for 3 generations.

What if Rome established closer links to china maybe it could have saved either empire

I love this videos but the coment section is kinna annoying, literally everyone is proposing ideas rather than talking about the actual video

What if Don Juan followed up his victory at Lepanto in 1572?

Cool Flag!

What if John Brinkley was elected in 1930 and Charles Coughlin was allowed to continue his broadcasts. Could be a continuation of what if Huey Long survived.

I see there are some videos on youtube entertaining the thought of a union between Portugal and Spain. But SERIOUSLY, why has no one made a video about a union between Portugal and Brazil?? I know it would be more like Brazil "swallowing" Portugal, but then again the same would happen in a union with Spain as well (except that a union with Brazil would not lead to a foreign language being imposed on the Portuguese). Also, look at France keeping the French Guiana up to this day! The same thing thing could happen in reverse (with the bigger member of the union located in South America)!!

Literally the eu4 play through (it’s in the 1560s)

What about Prussia? Does she exist in this timeline or not?

I've never seen this video, I just saw the post and guessed "3 years old." and boom, a 3 year old video. I know it's a lot more work but honestly you should think of remastering your old work. You have a better mic and better writing skills now a days compared to 3+ years ago.

When I thought about naming this country I thought about merging the names and got "Sportugal" and "Ppain"

Have I been here befor?

What if the Beer Hall Putsch succeeded?

Why england still gets Gibraltar and Hispania/the Iberian union doesn’t gets California, Alaska, Texas and even louisiana like in our timeline? Who knows maybe it’s because it needed to be nerf

Isn’t this the THIRD TIME you did this premise?

5:23 "suddenly dies" don't you mean has his throne usurped by Sebastian.

I watched this entire episode with my dog while drunk

The flag looks almost like the uk, looks good,

What if Germany decided not to reunite with the East because they didn't want to give up on Königsberg etc?

What if Russia joined the Central Powers.

What If China PR fought the Soviet Union after the Sino-Soviet Split? OR What if China PR collapsed before the Soviet Union?

What if the Yuan dynasty Sinisized more properly and prevented the Ming from ever taking over?

What if Mary I of England and Phillip of Spain had an heir to their two kingdoms?

a very good presentation. however, i'm quite certain that if the portuguese and spanish royal families understood that they have more to gain from consolidating their power, it wpuld have made more sense for them to be more careful financially, even before the early 1700's when portugal was able to repay it's national debt. had there been an alliance between england and this latin super-power, it's possible that the armada wouldn't have been launched in the first place, and even earler on, king henry VIII would have been convinced to teach his daughter mary how to govern as queen, since he wouldn't want to divorce catherine of aragon. with mary tudor as his wife, philip II of spain may have been able to see the wisdom of allowing his wife and her advisors in the english court to govern england with as much independence as possible in time, the british and the portuguese would have consolidated thair naval skills, and had a joint armada been built it would have possibly sailed under sir francis drake rather than against him. the scots, welsh and irish peoples would have been granted independence or even not conquered at all, to form a mini-empire of celtic people. arguably, the imperial family of the super-power would have had to realise, that tolerance toward protestants is something of a neccesity, for the whole thing to function. when the earthquake of lisbon would have struck in the 18'th century, with so much wealth restoring power and government would have been easier. the entire sphere of american colonies would have been under the anglo-spanish alliance, and therefore it's exact date of independence is unknown. as we approach the late 18'th century, the island of corsica is still in italian control. a young man called bonaparte goes to study in the military academy in france, but returns to italy as a military reformer and unites the italian city-states after installing his siblings in positions of power and crowning himself emperor. the latin super-power grows after an alliance with the new italy is declared. france, however, for most of it's history after the hundred years war, is very apprehensive of the latin colossus. the french kings have no choice but to seek an alliance with the habsburgs, the dutch, and as a last-ditch attempt, the german kingdoms. the latter eventually decide to unite much earlier than 1871, possibly given such advice by the french. after succesfully defeating the berbery pirates, the latin superpower decides to free greece, the balkans, and eastern europe from the ottomans. the goal is to besiege istanbul directly until freedom is granted to the christian countries. the crimean war is thus prevented. on to 1914: since the peoples of the balkans, including serbia, now guard their independent sovereignity jealusly, they establish a multi-national army, that succesfully prevents austrian imperial ambitions. left without any imperial conquests, the habsburg throne agrees to an empire with the germans and the french.

What if the Great Depression never happen

4:45 that was normal day for them,they were willing to marry their own siblings other further family was just luxury for them

Very interesting, that Union would be more Pro-england/britain and more anti-french, the Hispano-british destroying the french navy and conquering the maghreb region. I think you mean to recpature Rhodes for the holy league

What if Douglas MacArthur won the Republican nomination and ended up winning the 1948 election?

Strange how a united Iberia allied to Brittan against France would someone be more beneficial to France (who in 10:20, seem to be much better off than in our reality).

what if the British accepted control of the former Kingdom of Sedang

What if england and spain united with mary and philip

So... Latin in the church, Spanish in the Offices, and Portuguese in the... bars?

“What else would you expect from the Habsburgs”

can we point out two different people said first at like the exact same time

That's my dream, a portuguese sovereignty over the peninsula

we tried that...didn´t end well...

What if the English won the battle of Hastings

What if George Lincoln Rockwell had become president?

Yes, but Philip II had a son who would take the throne.

We as humans are stronger United! 🔥

What if the British Empire had started spacial science earlier and had spacial colonies?

7:43 Citation needed

Here we go again.

What about uk portugal union

what if Hugh Gaitskell became Prime Minister

What if Mr. Z wrote another book?

What if Soviet Union starts WW2?

My o CD has been demanding the Reunification of the Iberian Union. Just like I want North and South Carolina to either abandon the name or get back together.

I need to learn more about the Reconquista (did I spell that right?). Stay well out there everybody, and Jesus Christ be with you friends.😊

Sad Phillip II noises