I liked the part where Poland conquered europe :)

One question. Please tell me, does your expert on Russia know their language?

Ive been playing call of war 3 years, good game

As someone who has played Call of War for the past 4 years, I can confirm you definitely should play it 👍

Hoi4 if it was on mobile and bad

Or how this alternate end of WW1 would see France collapse into civil war as Syndicalist revolutionaries seize Paris and the territories formerly occupied by the Germans while Italy ousts its monarchy and the British Empire begins a slow decline...

©josepsamarrafarre In this cause it can't be the same. In ww1 Germany proves to be stronger. In such scenario France could not stick it to them the way Germany managed to almost rule the continent. It's requires even more luck than Germany had in begining of ww2.

@@stevekook-xw3is True, but I think there still was a way (even if next to impossible) for France to dominate, and that would have been going the exact opposite choice with ultra right wing racism. If the French had decided that they had lost WWI because they were too disunited and that they needed a true Holy National Union (l'Union Sacrée Nationale) under real human rights and republican principles for all French and colonial citizens (the rest of the world are not "real" human beings in this scenario), then, and only then, could the French pool the manpower resources from Asia and Africa to enact the "revanchism" policies needed to become a military hegemon in the world scene. As said, that would be pretty far fetched, but I once tried that path from the focus tree in HOI4 and it was the easiest world conquest I ever had with France...

@@occam7382blud this ain’t kaiserreich

@@occam7382Bro he went over that, Germany would take them out immediately

as long as they don't try to take konstantinople

@@imadzmarou912that is exactly what they wanted

ph playing too much kaiserreich

@@lordedmundblackadder9321 Britain and germany would probably not allow it

@@lememzAnd Bulgarian Yugoslavia in Kaiserreich is *republican* (because the Zveno depose the royals eventually)

I also hardly can imagine in such a szenario Germany giving up Access to the Mediterrranean Sea. A Germany from Sea to Sea would be way to attractive to german Elites, national Pride and economy. Especially if Germany took over the french colonies in Africa and Southeast Asia.

The coastline was taken by Italy

As a slovenian i agree... some of the argon (i think its called that) we have is german sounding and lots of germans come to slovenia or croatia for hollidays

and to add, attempts to reform the Empire will probably actually just make it more unstable. While the elites would probably love for it to work, I think many German Austrians are not quite as keen to the idea, and the Hungarians probably even less so. In my opinion, the condition that exists in the pre-WWI Austria-Hungary status quo were really only as stable as it was because the rest of Europe itself was fairly stable and balanced. Any big shakeup in Europe will inevitably rock Austria-Hungary, and WWI was that big shakeup.

As someone who likes learning about the Habsburgs this is just depressing that it was doomed.

Nah

We need a What if everything went perfect for Austria-Hungary starting at like 1850-1870 range; objective survive.

@@kylezdancewicz7346 Yes. Agreed. 👍

A childish Fantasy.

We have ENTENTEbooo here i see

Germany would try to rise against the entente world order, but the entente would easily crush it!

what if ONLY Serbia won WW1

Hello

Alternate Germany in the 1950's: "Why invade France when we already control a quarter of it and can delete the rest at a moment's notice?"

I think it would depend on whether France fell to Syndicalist/Communist or Far-left ideologies like in the Kasierreich timeline. Germany would have hated having similar factions/alliances from both Russia and France on either end to contest them.

@@SolidAvenger1290, and that's exactly what happens to Germany in Kaiserreich. They're once again encricled, with the Syndicalist powers of France and Britain in the West, and an ultranationalist Russia in the East. Just like back in 1914.

As someone from Marseille, I would press the button too.

Yes

You're not the only one.

@@TheAustrianAnimations87 thx bro

It's just impossible

You’re not alone. A.E.I.O.U.

SANTA IS REALLLLLLLL

YES

Cool idea but, isn’t Santa like idk 2 million mph, since he delivers presents to 2B people at the time of the 1940’s, he would be bombing all of Germany.

Fun fact: christmas is communism and Santa is Karl Marx in disguise

I love this idea

I second this. 👍

Yes, this is awesome idea

Neat

You just gave me a heartattack, luckily it was only for like a second

I made this Russia as Comrade PH mentioned, and yes, that is by far the best outcome Russia will get. Other options, for example if certain Lavr Kornilov succeeds(pretty possible without much Bolshevik influence), Russia would have turned into the 2nd China. Not modern era, warlord era China.

@@ivanserov1846 oh yeah, I'm sure it could get much worse, but then again creating a Russia that isnt a complete mess while also keeping with the idea of the timeline being one where Germany stands as a European hegemon is probably quite challenging. I appreciate your work with PH, regardless.

@@captainH023 Thats not exactly what I meant. The issue would be the government itself, because, at least for the first decade, the Parliament would be dominated by the wide left coalition, with the SRs as the majority. SRs are not the Bolsheviks, especially in economics, in that sphere they are closer to Venezuela or Indian Permit Raj policies of the 20th century, their ideology and programm was good for the simple man of the Russian peasant and laborer, but werent good for the overall national development. And their leadership(and Kerensky's own flaws) plus the afforementioned land and debt problems would really hit the Russian economy by a long shot.

@@ivanserov1846 ah. okay now i get it. PH never really made clear what is it about the new Russian government that would make it so toothless, but having it laid out here explained it. thank you!

@@ivanserov1846, yeah. Russia would likely take a similar route to Germany OTL, spending the 1920's and early 1930's dominated by a relatively weak left-wing republican government, and eventually being toppled and replaced by a right-wing nationalist dictator (Savinkov, anyone???) that would seek revenge on the Germans (and potentially Ottomans) for the humiliation of Brest-Litovsk.

i watch your video's

real

don't speak the same language? well, neither did half of Yugoslavia

Well, if this government actually allows for true federalism and multiculturalism, while keeping the country mostly equally developed it could work, the problem with yugoslavia was that serbian nationalists rose to power and tito's decentralized system lead to economic inequality

@@derevianne1108 western south Slavs speak the same language, yes. But it is different from eastern south Slavs (i.e. Bulgaria).

@@TheZettwell, in case you're talking about serbo-croatian - montenegrin and slovenian are definitely different languages

it wasn't our fault lol@@Mayabichi

I think the most likely scenario for the Ottomans is that the CUP would be overthrown after the war and be replaced by a more moderate nationalist regime led by Mustafa Kemal, who would seek to modernize the empire and assert it as a Great Power in its own right. But when Kemal inevitably dies, his successors will be unable to replicate his successes, and the empire would be torn apart from inside and out, both by internal nationalist groups and hungry foreign powers looking to gain from the destruction of the Sick Man of Europe.

I disagree, as stated in the video, ottomans are essential for germany and british, even for italy. It would probably be A play ground for influence. I think the most important factor that will be deciding the Fate of the empire is the emerging factions. So if a modernist faction emerge, ottoman empire could die off like you Said as the government wants to kill out the foreign influence. But if a more appeaser faction emerge, things May go like shown in the video. And if ottomans collapse, middle east would be likely same with our timeline except for few german colonies and influenced states scattered. In addition to this, I dont think nations would really care about miniorities getting expelled or even exterminated as it would be more beneficial for them to stay in controle of more intact and strong in theory state.

@@Heinz-gv8rm I can understand where that point can be made, especially seeing how the British treated the Ottomans prior to ww1, but I just don't think History backs it up. To start, it should be noted that the ottoman's goal would be less of a Christian population, not more, so taking in more Armenians and Georgian land is already pushing the limits. But then, to say the ottomans and young Turks would just continue to push the slaughter further against an even larger population with no one stepping in is absurd. The Bulgarians had lost land two years prior to the war starting against the Ottomans, and if given such victories, they have no reason to stand by. The Germans may want an ally to control the straights, and if Bulgaria is positioned as a rising power, they likely would favor them over the ottomans, which, there's a chance the British or any of their neighbors could step in. Saying that other nations wouldn't care is absurd, most of our best sources on the matter come from outside observers in the Ottoman empire, as most Turkish sources at outright propaganda on the matter. The Russo-Turkish war 40 years prior started over outrage from Ottoman treatment of minorities, and while the other powers had intervened in the Crimean war, they stepped back here as their own populations were horrified at how barbaric the ottomans were. I don't see any difference here, as the Ottomans are far more likely to be split up between the other powers, Germans included, then to be allowed to expand such horrors

@@aquarius3848 I see. First off, world countries such as germany and british in this timeline does not really care about miniorities getting slaughtared, they only intervene or "care" if they have something to gain from it. We can see this even today, look at USA, they "Liberated" Iraq to stop terrorism and inhumane actions commited by saddam husein, they did their job, ended authoritarian and oppresive regime. But now? Iraq is mostly left behind as a backwards state, struggling with terrorist organisations and economically destroyed. This can also be Said about Afganistan, even further, they stopped the oppresive regime and a decade later, more oppresive one came. Our topic is not modern times but i found this to be a good example. The old days of fighting for jesus had died after reform and renaissence. Countries dont care any more if millions People gets killed, unless it effects them. I also think that ottomans main wealth wasnt their straits, yes it is also an important trading hub but it is not as important as natural recources in anatolia and arabia such as chromium and boron in Turkey and oil fields in arabia. Also anatolia and northern arabia is famous for its cloth and cotton production. So using bulgaria as a tool to control straits is A good option for germany but keeping the ottomans intact and securing influence over it is a better option. Furthermore, i dont think ottomans could have survive much longer, at max late 40 or mid 50 is its maximum living date as there is no Way ottomans can come up with a solution to Live past that, already old and useless ruling traditions, turkish population ruling over arabs and cristhians "quite oppresively", destroyed economy and great powers gambling over their natural recources. This leads me to believe ottomans will eventually die, but not like exploding into multiple pieces. There is 2 out comes i believe: First: Everything goes similar to our timeline, a turkish state is created and rest is divided between germany and british possibly french. Second: Ottoman empire collapses and shatters into multiple pieces and your scenario takes place. I believe the first one is more realistic and possible but i wont make a comment on the second one as i want to hear your toughts first.

@@Heinz-gv8rm See, again, don't worry, I understand where you are coming from, but I personally just don't see it as a realistic thing, besides that in the end, the ottomans will collapse one way or the other. To start, the Americans and British both acted as outside observers in regards to what happened to the Christian populations, and in this scenario, the Greeks are actually likely to start the international uproar, let alone the other powers I've previously mentioned. They had maintained neutral for the war, and had ties to both the Germans and British. If the ottomans started to slaughter and displace the entire Greek population, let alone the Armenians and other Christian populations, it is fairly likely that the ottomans are dropped so the Germans and British can carve oil rich regions away, while the Christians likely form a state at least in the caucuses between the Georgians and Armenians, likely reaching into Anatolia. The Bulgarians likely push for Constantinople if they see their chance with Germany turning on the ottomans, while the Greeks would likely at least try for the West Anatolian coast, although similar to our timeline, there's always the chance the Turks at least repel and hold onto Anatolia. The idea that the ottomans are propped up even further when even the Turks are done with the ottoman empire by the point of the war , let alone the Arabs, is just too unrealistic. With the Christians, Arabs, and Turks all against this state (note that migrated circassians and Kurds weren't as opposed to the ottomans at this point), it is very unlikely the ottomans last for long at all after the war, let alone if they commit even more atrocities, which would get their allies and neutral parties up against them. The Greeks, Italians, Germans, British, and Bulgarians all have claims to wanting the empire, and even Reza shah in Persia could have an eye on the Azerbaijan region, although that last one is a bit more far fetched. I just can't see the ottomans lasting for long enough, and they likely would be torn apart by various powers as attaturk would miss his chance to modernize the state. That's another note, for all we know, attaturk could still overthrow the other young Turks in an attempt to disband the empire from within, as many Turks had grown rather opposed to the empire prior to the war, and winning the war likely wouldn't change this. Overall, I think there are just far too many internal and external factors to let this slide. I think the fact that the Greeks were neutral during the war yet had their people treated so horribly would likely be the tipping point, as the Germans could no longer bury their heads in the sand, and the British would likely jump at the opportunity to gain valuable land with a valid excuse following their loss in the great war. This could then coincide with Arabs, Christians, and Turks under Attaturk revolting plunging the region into chaos realistically before even the Austrian collapse.

What Prussia scheme???

The Prussian scheme wouldn’t change much as the guy they wanted to put on the throne was infertile

@@alexcat4523 The Prussian Scheme was a plan to transform the United States into a monarchy, under Prince Henry of Prussia, younger brother of King Frederick the Great.

​@@alexcat4523 the rumor about a supposed suggestion in 1786 by Massachusetts politician Nathaniel Gorham that if the country adopted a constitutional monarchy like England it ought to invite Henry of Prussia, a German prince of the House of Hohenzollern, as the new king of America

@@thebender7458 ...very strange. Very strange, indeed.

I would recommend checking out the Hearts of Iron 4 Kasierreich timeline

Yugoslavia and Italy would definitely be at each other's throats over the fate of Dalmatia and Littoral. Something I imagine the Germans would take advantage of to increase their own influence in the region.

Not to mention Iberia. They had vested interest in both factions of ww1. Would a civil war be avoided? Or would the nations fall under a particular sphere of influence?

@@TheRestedOne, I imagine Portugal would remain close allies with the British. Spain, meanwhile, would get close to Germany at first to prop up its own economy and interests, but would eventually fall into civil war. I'm not really sure if there was a good way to avoid it.

​@@occam7382In such cause where Bulgaria is the big boss of Yugoslavia I don't think we could care about some territory there. Our ambitions don't have a match to this Yugoslavia thing and are in wrong direction.

@@stevekook-xw3is, IF Bulgaria becomes the dominant force in Yugoslavia. I think it's far more likely that, if Yugoslavia even does form in a scenario where the Central Powers win WW1, it would still be under Serbian leadership, and if not them, the Croats. Bulgaria would be too busy desperately trying to maintain their already overstretched empire to even think about the idea of forming Yugoslavia.

I m Italian and I love it to

As a Pole, I [redacted by the german puppet regime]

@@biharek7595 Good opinion

As a Bulgarian, I couldn't be happier.

As a Russian, it sucks

Do you play hoi4?

Hence, why the Hearts of Iron 4 Kaisrreich timeline is highly popular

@@SolidAvenger1290 thanks for the recommendation. I'll check that one out!

Dunno about bulgaroslavia, feel like the balkans would be puppet states split between Germany and Bulgaria

@@captain5121 I won't argue with that, but either way, it wouldn't take much away from the history/map in general

madness pfp !!

U done yet?

Yep

@@hans41745 nice

Whatever our wildest ambitions were we couldn't be interested in something like that where we are neighbours to Italy. At the time the kingdom is not nearly enough developed for such an empire like state. Allegedly we were the largest population in Balkans but this Yugoslavia thing is weird. A whole bunch of Serbs in middle and a whole bunch of others folks in lands that simply don't matter to Bulgarian ambitions. Consolidating in the neighbourhood seems to make much more sense than Yugoslavia. Them Serbs couldn't handle it in real time line. They got massive beating in ww1 and that gift to them is more generous than they deserve or could handle. Should've been given something like till west Bosnia. They weren't ready to control so much and obviously didn't had the money to do so. Neither would we Bulgarians. It's said that in 1st Balkan war there were not enough rifles to equip the whole army that fought in the war. That war is only a few moments prior to ww1. By having gained Yugoslavia we do not get to loot places filled with endless riches. Again Serbs in middle. What would be gained from conquering them? Nothing of the necessary level that requires handling an empire.

Which Persia?

@@lithunoisan honestly good question. I guess maybe Timurids, but any Persia would do

@@Danube-TV, Republic of Iran all the way, baby.

I think a more realistic collapse of Austria-Hungary would be when Austria demands that Hungary federalize, and in retaliation, Hungary declares independence, leading to an Austrian military intervention.

Could they have won?

​@@ruin8891No, it's just impossible

I have a wilder one: What if the axis powers won ww1?

They simply couldn't have

Is this a tno reference?

What do you mean

Like putting von Sternberg in power in Russia

@@Hadrexus huh

How about hoi 4 mods?

HUEY LONG DONG

Did you watch part 1? Italy joined Central powers in his timeline

Bulgaria would pretty much have the same problems as the Serbs a few decades later.

Bulgaria was originally proposed to be part of Yugoslavia, so this is that, but under the Bulgarians instead of the Serbs. And yes, it would be brutal, just like our own timeline, but Germans wouldn’t want to see it completely collapse. It’s possible they survive until the modern day, though how stable they would be if they did I have NO idea. And as for Greece, yeah, they would hate it, but what are they realistically going to do? Fight the strongest power in the Balkans in a 1 on 1 while being even weaker and poorer than in our timeline?

Greece is tame because what are they gonna do? They can't take on Bulgarians, they can't take on Ottomans and they can't take on Albanians since Albania is under Italian control.

Neither were European powers in WWI, still..

@@ciii4361 Maybe you missed the point with Germany having the first nuclear weapon in the 40s, so no war between the great powers possible, so...

@@23GreyFox ah yes in this case I agree, I didn’t understand it from your comment sorry

Problem is: Black hundredists were driven underground pretty soundly by the revolution, and at least the first decade would see a pretty much SR-Mensheviks domination, since they perfectly catered to the people that mattered in Russia at the time: the peasants and large factories workers.

Also there isn't a single introspection of Germany, that now has to deal with more french population in the west, nationalistic eastern puppets and inner political issues such as south-german nationalism (that would be strengthened due to the incorporation of Austria you propose in the video, although by that point it was less relevant as Wilhelm II stopped the discrimination against catholicism that Bismark started), colonial issues (that you mostly omit) and the leftist opposition, also they would need to spend lots of resources mantaining their sphere of influence in shape.

there's always room for a part three@@DonPedroman

UK, German Empire, Russian Empire V. S France, Italy, Austria-Hungary.

@@CalvinNoire with the Ottoman Empire. France might even be able to convince Japan to side with them.

>socialist >hapsburgs >republics >expand into balkans and become larger >and more peaceful This is a walking contradiction if ever I've seen one

@@mappingshaman5280 Socialist Habsburg Monarchy I did in Victoria 3, but Habsburg Republic, propably hard to achieve.

​@@mappingshaman5280I mean not really, the only contradiction I'd Habsburgs and socialist, and maybe the peace part, but just maybe

@@magikarp.4612 so you don't think a hapsburg Republic is a contradiction? You don't think territorial expansion into the balkans contradicts peace? 😂😂😂

@@mappingshaman5280 Ever heard of the term "crowned republic"?