What if we install centrifugal clutches inside the rear wheels?

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11 ай бұрын

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@Garage54ENG 10 ай бұрын

Once again sorry about the blackout. Here's the re-uploaded video - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j6uVltR0l7G-lYU.html

@feetfats1 10 ай бұрын

Why not delete this one ?

@chrisparti 11 ай бұрын

for some reason the video went black towards the end. I would suggest lighter return springs on the brake shoes.

@yannickl5976 11 ай бұрын

I see the same, after 10:18 nothing but black.

@zetabola1 11 ай бұрын

Same

@PiezPiedPy 11 ай бұрын

Me too

@lord-REDACTED- 11 ай бұрын

Yup

@MattBrownbill 11 ай бұрын

Me too...

@-A-Hybrid-Skunk-Productions- 11 ай бұрын

Hey Garage 54. Loved the video from what I seen. It blacked out near the end. May you and your team please re-upload the video please. I'd love to see the full video . If it is ok

@alejandrodelta8928 11 ай бұрын

Yeah, for me black out happens at 10:14...

@kj4ilk 11 ай бұрын

10:15 for me but yeah

@_M_O_E_ 11 ай бұрын

same. glad to know it wasnt just my ancient laptop having issues. but i still want to see the rest

@personnel5757 11 ай бұрын

same

@Zommari 11 ай бұрын

same

@rayceeya8659 11 ай бұрын

Alright, now you need to try a torque converter on each wheel.

@TheReid2DecoderTech 11 ай бұрын

This comment needs more upvotes 👍👍👍

@samsungtvset3398 11 ай бұрын

The original (but unimplemented ) design spec for the 1948 Tucker Torpedo had a torque converter in the hub of each rear wheel.

@rayceeya8659 11 ай бұрын

@@samsungtvset3398 But how would reverse work?

@whyjnot420 11 ай бұрын

@@rayceeya8659 If they are connected to the driveshaft via halfshafts or CV joints (or just stuck at the end of a solid axle), I don't see the problem. I can see issues, but how would it not work in principle?

@donbrashsux 11 ай бұрын

Great suggestion for Vlad

@camicase479 11 ай бұрын

what happends after 10:30? backscreen?

@wwmoggy 11 ай бұрын

same here

@soulwarrior7721 11 ай бұрын

10:16 it fades to black and never comes back...

@VintageCR 11 ай бұрын

yep, i initially thought this was a youtube bug but even after 4 refreshes it continues to be black.

@Boosted1981 11 ай бұрын

Yep...i wondered if i was the only one 🤣🤣

@erkinalp 11 ай бұрын

Video missing after 10:15.

@kasuraga 11 ай бұрын

ah dang...half the video is blacked out

@qpSubZeroqp 11 ай бұрын

Why is that?

@timothybayliss6680 11 ай бұрын

@@qpSubZeroqpI dunno. I thought it was a Yt rendering issue

@johngillon6969 11 ай бұрын

thank you i was terrified my compute was messed up.

@str11pes 11 ай бұрын

Yeah ugh

@johnbelwell2461 11 ай бұрын

The problem is the open diff, when one goes to grip the other spins and loses its traction, should have used a welded diff but from what i can understand the brake shoes should have been weighted more

@thecrazyfarmboy 11 ай бұрын

Open diffs don't send all power to one wheel though- it's always a 50/50 torque split. The difference is one may turn faster than the other, while applying the same amount of torque

@drgibs347 11 ай бұрын

10:16 in the goes black screen until the end. :(

@emilschw8924 11 ай бұрын

A big shoutout to BMI Russian for translating these from Russki to Engliski 😊 👍 Appreciate the effort you guys do in translating this for us.

@SwapBlogRU 11 ай бұрын

No problem. Sorry about the lack of image after about 10:14 though...

@DualKalibur 11 ай бұрын

Great experiment guys! Didn’t work as well as I expected but still works! Try a water bong for a muffler!

@dennis-nz5im 11 ай бұрын

Bongs are probably illegal. Remember B Griner.

@VannilaZero 11 ай бұрын

It’s Russia they can’t smoke weed

@Sparky_D 11 ай бұрын

@@VannilaZerothey don't need weed to make a bong...

@VannilaZero 11 ай бұрын

@@Sparky_D the fact they have one could be bad for them knowing russia

@raze38015 11 ай бұрын

Not a water bong.. A water filter muffler. I'm really surprised we don't already have them for emissions tbh

@Davide0033 11 ай бұрын

the editor fucked up or went for a blind inclusion style , but it's still a great video, and you still have a great editor

@colinstu 11 ай бұрын

Is the rear diff not welded? seems like only one wheel is smoking up.

@rossbrumby1957 11 ай бұрын

Given the wobbling wheels indicating bad alignment of hubs to brake drums, I'd say one contacted better than the other so gripped sooner- being allowed to by the open diff.

@jittychitty 11 ай бұрын

I love the randomness of your mechanical thoughts and ideas you guys come up with!

@averagedev7768 11 ай бұрын

This channel will do everything i ever think of while i take a dump. Thanks guys you make my life better!!!

@mann_idonotreadreplies 11 ай бұрын

Shit comment

@ielyas 11 ай бұрын

10:18 Someone forgot to pay the cameraman :)

@duanemyhre 11 ай бұрын

You guys are crazy. Love it!

@volvo09 11 ай бұрын

Re upload the video guys! It goes black 1/2 way through, although audio stays.

@danstone8783 10 ай бұрын

Was kind of like a throwback to the old days of radio.

@magnusatheos7301 5 ай бұрын

This show never ceases to amaze me.

@CattanisGarage 11 ай бұрын

Having a 0-60 of 1.8 seconds all while standing still the entire time. The all new lada auto

@whthefulks4121 11 ай бұрын

Hey these guy's are genius just goes to show wit h a little know how and Balls nothing is impossible keep it up Garage 54.... Can't wait to see what's next...

@astrayalien 11 ай бұрын

What a brilliant idea!

@fuzbaull8894 11 ай бұрын

I love how much the production quality has increased in these videos. They should honestly consider making a mythbuster's-esque show. Except for maybe the part where it blacked out near the end, but I'm sure that'll be fixed in time xD

@alexpetro240sx 11 ай бұрын

You guys have the best ideas

@miketee2444 11 ай бұрын

Some refinement is in order now. Rigging the brake shoes to engage the entire pad instead of one end as brakes normally work. Adding more weight to pads and giving them a linear motion should really help. I'm wondering if the diff being locked may help since it's likely transferring one wheel to the other and the clutch set up will handle that duty anyway. Give it one more try.

@honkie247 11 ай бұрын

When you used the brake shoes as a clutch disc it worked well because they were spinning at engine rpm. Now the rear wheels spin at engine rpm divided by rear axle ratio. Probably around 3.5:1 or 3.75:1.

@rossbrumby1957 11 ай бұрын

Given the car is in 4th gear (1:1 ratio)- lower gears are still out of the question unless they were to cast large lead weights onto the backs of the brake shoes. And that's a big maybe.

@petelattimer6808 11 ай бұрын

@@rossbrumby1957 they went into 5th gear eventually so overdrive.

@teardowndan5364 11 ай бұрын

Add a 1kg steel chunk behind each brake shoe instead of a nut and you'll get ~5X the centrifugal force for a given RPM, should make this a whole lot more functional.

@RubyRhod 11 ай бұрын

Define "work". This is a big heater (this the smoke). Changing mass won't change that.

@teardowndan5364 11 ай бұрын

@@RubyRhod If you have 5X the mass being flung around at the "floating" end of the brake shoe, you get 5X the pressure being applied to the brake shoe for a given RPM or half the RPMs for about the same torque going through, which means half as much brake pad smoke being generated for a given amount of acceleration or twice as much accelerating before wearing out the pads.

@RubyRhod 11 ай бұрын

@@teardowndan5364 You are not wrong, but while you increase mass 5 times, you lower rpms that create a certain torque by sqrt(5) or about 2.2 times. So you "only" more than half the heat wasted/generated by the clutch. I would argue you need to lower energy wasted by 10 to 100 times. There is a reason why friction clutches of any type (and I would argue torque converters are in some way also a friction clutch) are meant to go at the highest rpm shaft in the drivetrain - usually directly at the engine.

@teardowndan5364 11 ай бұрын

@@RubyRhod I didn't say that it would solve the problem, only that they'd get at least twice the usability out of it.

@mann_idonotreadreplies 11 ай бұрын

@ruby cool story bro

@stephendezouzsa 11 ай бұрын

The differential is sending most of the force to one wheel

@uberschnilthegreat22 11 ай бұрын

Basically the entire video part of the video isn't actually on screen from 10:16 till the end of the video lmao

@0xferd 11 ай бұрын

I have never heard of putting clutches on wheels, this is interesting, cool idea!

@clutchkikn. 11 ай бұрын

This is why I love stuff like that it's crazy creative

@Q_GG 11 ай бұрын

that is why i love this channel they answer strage question

@mac24seven 11 ай бұрын

I hope people realize the insane skill of fabricating these guys have. This stuff is just insane.

@jasonz7788 11 ай бұрын

Awesome thanks 👍👍

@fuzzy1dk 11 ай бұрын

black screen from about 10:17

@Evokes25th5.7 11 ай бұрын

I love these videos lol

@lesklower7281 11 ай бұрын

Almost successful back to the drawing board l so amazed how you come up with all these experiments but they are great entertainment can't wait for the next one

@High_Caliber 11 ай бұрын

Blank ending, needs a re-up

@gregs3153 11 ай бұрын

Great video as always keep up the good work guys ! My video went black two halfway through ?

@wakeupcanadians 11 ай бұрын

same right at 10:17

@SARGENTO473 11 ай бұрын

I love your vídeos im Brazilian keep going posting videos

@Wreck-Gar 11 ай бұрын

At the end of every Garage54 video I think, that must be it now, they can't possibly come up with a new experiment to try on those poor LADAs. Thankfully they prove me wrong every time 😂❤👍

@Pulverrostmannen 11 ай бұрын

The second half of the video sure make use of your imagination as you listen in the darkness

@JackSupraMan 11 ай бұрын

Un altro video degno del Garage54, canale KZfaq che adoro... Peccato che diventa nero a tre/quarti di video... Ragazzi, siete i miei idoli. Ciao dall'italia

@mann_idonotreadreplies 11 ай бұрын

Did not understand but cool story bro

@rayceeya8659 11 ай бұрын

Thank god they finally bought a plasma cutter. Used to drive me crazy seeing them go through cutoff discs.

@laurencebois5119 11 ай бұрын

I see Ray Charles edited this one

@Jynxx_13 11 ай бұрын

@10:15 video goes black. Only sound.😒

@mastermnd22 11 ай бұрын

The brake shoes should have been mounted the other way around. Using the centrifical Force to swing them out. I bet it would work better in reverse, the way it's built now.

@rossbrumby1957 11 ай бұрын

No, they made the swinging end leading because they grip better (same as all front drum brakes on cars are leading end opens, not trailing end). To make them bite harder, the pivot bolt on the trailing end needs to be moved closer to the centre of the hub to gain more leverage.

@mastermnd22 11 ай бұрын

@@rossbrumby1957 all brake shoes work with center piston spreading open from the top. Either direction you have both a leading edge open and trailing. So your argument makes no sense. They should have used a similar idea to get both directions of bite from the shoes.

@SLMAHKMY87 11 ай бұрын

Video goes blank after 10:40

@malber1964 11 ай бұрын

10:15

@trm4life 11 ай бұрын

Now you guys need to make some diy crab walking wheels.

@digitalchaos1980 11 ай бұрын

Love the video! But please reupload if possible. It blacked out around the 10 minute mark.

@christmassnow3465 Күн бұрын

I think you should install the centrifugal clutch in place of the original clutch, because the gearbox starts with first gear, while the engine's RPM is higher.

@busyguy7479 11 ай бұрын

this was fun looks like maybe more weight on the shoes would help and a welded diff to equalize power to both wheels. anyway great effort putting this together always fun kudos.

@godsreddoor6345 11 ай бұрын

Love it!!!

@Nicky_Otto 11 ай бұрын

Great vid, too bad it went black with just sound around 10:17.

@travistanich297 7 ай бұрын

Hi from Texas USA love your channel . So what if you replaced the pads with aluminum. On your previous vid using aluminum for brake pads and they were supper grippy

@gabrielv.4358 11 ай бұрын

I could feel the "oh no" when he put 5th gear at 3500rpms

@gabrielv.4358 11 ай бұрын

the rest of the video after the 10:20 mark is black

@EAESPN 11 ай бұрын

what up with the AMSR part of the video half way in to it?

@timothybayliss6680 11 ай бұрын

Right on

@Snowaxe3D 11 ай бұрын

Lock the diff, Great fun ideas though :)

@munky123jw 11 ай бұрын

Half the video is classified top secret

@larryphillips4164 11 ай бұрын

This is exactly how them old cranes work. The engine drives a pto and the pto drives a big chain and that chain is attached to gears and those gears spin which in turn spin drums and brake pads are inside those drums so when the operator pulls a lever that lever releases hydraulic fluid into a piston into the drum and pushes the brake pad onto the inside of the drum which depending on the operators lever and the force of the piston on the brake pad, the winch line operates. Sometimes when it’s wet you gotta burn the brake pads and inside of the drum causes smoke so the friction catches when you go to pick up a load. On that same drum is another band around the entire drum which is attached to a linkage and then to the operators brake pedal so operator pushes brake pedal, pedal pushes linkage, linkage squeezes brake band and in turn squeezes brake drum stopping the winch line.

@mann_idonotreadreplies 11 ай бұрын

Nice period..............................

@TiborRoussou 11 ай бұрын

From 10:17 onwards, the screen is blacked out.

@BalooUriza 11 ай бұрын

This accurately captures what it's like to drive on pavement in Snowrunner.

@Nikko3001 10 ай бұрын

Before watching the test: I think the rear wheels and power transfer would be okay because of the diff. Just when it wears out you'd have an issue. After watching the test: I should have known with the way the pads were dangling that it needed a little bit of a tighter fit. Gravity can only do so much work.

@opossom1968 11 ай бұрын

video went black at 10:14 Needs less weight on the pads so they spin out harder.

@christaylor2168 11 ай бұрын

Lighter return springs and closer tolerance between pads and hub.

@rossbrumby1957 11 ай бұрын

there were no return springs- they only had them on the clutch replacement version.

@TheShivABC 11 ай бұрын

Video goes black with the garage54 logo still up on the bottom right? What's up with that?

@hondacbr600 11 ай бұрын

You should make centrifugal clutches heavier so there would be less slipage becouse of greter normal force

@benruether8294 11 ай бұрын

I'm thinking somewhere in the neighborhood of 4lbs each with lead weights. It really needs something super heavy due to the low rotating speed

@mann_idonotreadreplies 11 ай бұрын

@honda yew at wright. Coel storey broe. Greter es beytter aw gues. Lol

@FM60260 11 ай бұрын

I am glad I didn't have to smell that when it started smoking

@TechKnowCSS 11 ай бұрын

FROM 10:15 TO THE END OF THE VIDEO IT IS ALL BLACK SCREEN.

@usercid640 11 ай бұрын

the most efficient car ever made

@UberLummox 11 ай бұрын

107% uncool that you can't see the rest without YT Premium.

@draytonkk 11 ай бұрын

ummm black screen for last half??

@matthiasmartin1975 11 ай бұрын

What I'd want to see you do is to make an MR2 equivalent out of a Lada Samara. Basically, drop engine and transmission where the rear seat used to be. Oh, and turbo charge it, of course.

@HomesteadViewin 11 ай бұрын

You have hooked up 2 engines, 3 engines and an insane 4 engines......but, can you put 2 motors in a lada and have one engine driving the right wheels and the second engine drives the left wheels, might run like a tank, you turn by slowing one engine and speeding the other one up. May as well put tracks on it if you can!!!

@1toonhead 11 ай бұрын

Dam last 7 inutes of video goes black. Really enjoying this

@justinowen1402 9 ай бұрын

Should make your own belt clutch system that's like in most side by sides or 4 wheelers.

@woody1766 11 ай бұрын

the last 8 mins was a black screen no pic just audio.

@cap7ainskull 11 ай бұрын

Can this saturn V run on bio diesel vs a v12 lada using a tank engine found in by backyard

@fastinradfordable 11 ай бұрын

This could work for top speed cars. To add ability to start off in higher gear without slipping the main clutch

@utahara9608 11 ай бұрын

Dumb idea here but would it be possible to fit a torque converter onto a manual transmission? Kinda like a liquid clutch

@mann_idonotreadreplies 11 ай бұрын

It's possible but fluid won't circulate.

@Badical69killemall 11 ай бұрын

what happened to last half of video?

@duncancremin1708 11 ай бұрын

Yes, I had the same problem, video going black, but sound was okay. This was never going to work because the wheel rpm is too low, so the force isn’t enough to push the pads out and engage them decisively, so the end up slipping and heating up. By the time you build up enough speed to sufficiently engage the centrifugal clutch it has over heated and can’t grip properly, similar to brake fade. You’d need at least a 2:1, maybe even 3:1 reduction between the centrifugal clutch and the hubs, to make this work, but that would result in a very high engine rpm and low road speed, unless you had a step up to match, in the driveline. That’s starting to sound like a French car!

@kevinfrancisco1730 10 ай бұрын

Try welding the differential and use those centrifugal for each wheel. Its like an auto mechanical transaction control

@RayTitske 11 ай бұрын

hi we mist the last 7 minuts only black screen.

@randolphcountyasylum2643 11 ай бұрын

Is there a way to use the clutch to make a break? Clutch and flywheel on the back wheels of a front wheel drive car.

@mann_idonotreadreplies 11 ай бұрын

It's not called break

@Aleks_Mechanics 11 ай бұрын

Notification squad Have a nice weekend!🔥🔥🔥

@mumblez22 8 ай бұрын

Great fuel saver 😂

@Sparky_D 11 ай бұрын

It's funny how you guys test so many sketchy car mods around your workshop yet decided this was too sketchy and took it to a track 😂

@therealswarvey 11 ай бұрын

If you ever revisit this one, lock the diff

@anibalbabilonia1867 11 ай бұрын

Man I was enjoying the video when all of a sudden it went black!! Boy that sucks! I wanted to see the ending!

@josejuanrosales3614 11 ай бұрын

What happens in you put differential oil on engine?

@mohammadmousavinezhad6835 11 ай бұрын

Just some note, you didn't put the weight for centrifugal force in the right placed, in contrast, it actually reduces the force. the best place would be in the middle of the brake plate not the top of it.

@aeroflopper 11 ай бұрын

did you weld the diff? and needs springs on shoes.

@rossbrumby1957 11 ай бұрын

Springs would make it grip less.

@aeroflopper 11 ай бұрын

@rossbrumby1957 so every manufacturer that makes a centrifugal clutch made them all wrong, could of saved all them springs,

@timothybayliss6680 11 ай бұрын

The fun part is when there is no rear brakes.

@twocvbloke 11 ай бұрын

Need more weight on the shoes, they need more centrifugal force behind them to press against the drum and not slip... (and also, the video is black after 10:16 so we can't see anything anyway!!!)