That's a very good pick

That's awesome 😎

The precursor to MMA is vale Tudo, which is MMA

@@conorfiggs234 that is a ruleset. Not a fighting style Js

Yes ...ànd also American karate helped to create Dutch k-1 kickboxing

So in other words American karate is TaeKwondo? That’s what you just described especially considering you said JHOON RHEE influenced it.

@@conorfiggs234 essentially all karate is "modern", it didn't exist until the early 1900s, the distinction between the styles is actual "martial" art vs competition style modern versions of the arts(becoming an Olympic sport was one of the worst things that ever happened to karate or any martial art frankly)

@@conorfiggs234 but yes virtually all modern competition karate styles are just tkd. (most tkd teaches the hand techniques of karate btw since tkd doesn't have any lol) you see he brought up karate combat, every fight Ive seen on there was far more tkd than karate. Ps I have black belts in shotokan, gojo ryu, and tkd I would know lol

American karate is perfect for westerners; it works. Just like jiu-jitsu in the UK 🇬🇧 is the comprehensive for westerners.

All depends, I mean I am an American and I primarily practice/train and use foreign arts lol. But no that's not generally the case, and I mean I've done American boxing and wrestling, but have black belts in shotokan, and gojo ryu , 2nd degree black belt in tkd, done a little Japanese jujitsu and judo but for the last 12+ years I've been doing Chinese martial arts , mainly wing Chun (which karate primarily comes from btw) Tai chi and qi gong exercises.

@@willtherealrustyschacklefo3812 It’s descended from Chinese martial arts but very little resemblance exists in the modern day. Same thing is happening in America. American karate is descended from Japan/Okinawa but is starting to resemble its origin less and less.

@@glane3962 that last part is semi very accurate, but there's more "grappling" techniques and concepts which apply to it in Chinese martial arts than there is in Japanese jujitsu or bjj . However it's up to the individual to practice and train and there lies the problem in majority of cases

@@glane3962 and it was not time but becoming an Olympic sport which killed karate. (the much more modern /American styles)

I remember growing up in Newark NJ taking Ch'ang On Taekwondo and a lot of the dudes had fros!

If it's possible!!!Until UFC dies off it's hopeless.Except us older people that believe in preserving history and passing on tradition.There is still great KENPO schools out west but almost none in Ohio or in the east

It's very hard for modern people to comprehend "traditional" things. Although those who actually follow instructions and stick with it long enough to see the results will be more than impressed lol

@@evilxmetalband6532 kenpo is a very modern martial art formed from kempo in The late 1900s js (which to be technical karate itself didn't exist until the early 1900s) but it does come from "traditional" martial arts. Modern arts are primarily competition styles , or for show, not literal "martial arts"

@@skorpion380 yes they misunderstand many/most things lol. Kata is one of if not the most important part. Now yes that's also very possible to train or understand improperly as you pointed out , apart from just general exercise, forms are for teaching you concepts of martial arts and developing desirable instincts/reflexes. So that you aren't relying on thought for movement lol

@@skorpion380 and js krav maga is only useful for very physically fit, aggressive people with a good understanding of the art , and preferably prior martial arts experience outside of it.

From Texas and I am somewhat familiar with Hill Country Karate. My Kenpo school used to compete against them at times . Small world.

Message from Derek: "Yes, Hill Country Karate was under the banner of ASK. Most of the territories are independent now but all come from ASK".

I do like those people at Hill Country Karate, they are very welcoming, nice, and professional people. They are wonderful to be around I really enjoy the competitions.

​@@wyldvigilanteAl Tracy or Ed Parker? I was Al Tracy. Hurst Texas. Master John Fite

@@keithhampton9700 American Kenpo.

We did film a KZfaq short on Mr. Trias. We haven't released it yet, but when we do and if it gets good traction we'll likely do a full episode.

Oh my god. 🤦🏻‍♂️

To be fair, there are a lot of schools in Japan and other countries where it is a product too. I would not say it's fair that American martial arts are automatically a product to be sold. I personally know several people who either teach privately or run independent schools (for either low money or even a loss) and it's about the passion of the art and teaching others. The commercialization is everywhere in every country, but definitely on a school to school basis. But I do agree with you, sometimes that commercialization is what sparks the spread, and that's where the fine line is. Get the attention out there while still maintaining an integrity to the art.

@@ArtofOneDojo Meant it more as America were the first to have the idea to have it more commercialized. And I thank the Lord for those smaller schools, I attend one of them. Commercialisation is not to be mixed with McDojo as they are not equivalent at all. Keep up the good work Sensei Dan and the team!

Derek is a class act for sure. I really appreciate his friendship.

Tang Soo Do is Korean

@@luxurybuzz3681 Agreed- but the majority of practitioners are in the USA, yes? The development of the majority of TSD happens in the USA as well, yes?

Tang Soo Do gets stuck in a weird mix. It's very Americanized in general, but in many school they also "Japanese" themselves too. A lot of TSD schools in American use terms like "dojo, Karate, Sensei" instead of the Korean counterparts. And then there is American Tang Soo Do, which is a little bit different from traditional Tang Soo Do. TSD is an interesting study when looking at it's mixed roots and multicultural influence.

@@ArtofOneDojo Agreed! Like American Karate, it has an interesting mix of many traditions.

Not far at all. Kajukenbo is probably the Kempo equivalent. Kempo that came through Hawaii and branched off into multiple directions. Personally I find it all fascinating.

That's what he meant by it being more of an American trait. While other arts do have the side stance but not as primary, in American Karate it IS a primary stance. Mainly because Bill Wallace learned to fight with a bad knee and developed a strategy to limit targets and still get his shots in. The bouncing isn't as much of a sign though in American arts. While there is some...Japanese Karate has MUCH more bouncing in tournaments and sparring. American Karate has a little bit, but does a lot of feinting and linear angle changes.

"MMA" and the concept of mixing arts comes way before Bruce Lee's time. That's generally how new styles were formed. Kenpo is a mixture of Karate and Kung Fu. Sambo is a mixture of striking and grappling. Kyokushin is a mixture of Goju Ryu and Shotokan and Kudo is a mixture of Kyokushin and Judo. The list goes on. Bruce was a great martial artist, but he didn't invent the concept of MMA or mixing styles. That idea has been around for centuries.

Yet another hybrid, What dojo do you train at?

Not just that, It's also focused on performance too when it comes to Kata/Forms. Not every American Karate style isn't like that as you mentioned Ed Parker. Also, Jason David Frank who founded Toso Kune Do which is an American style Karate that blends many styles including Muay Thai is quite effective style that works in the real world.

I believe that martial arts fall into three basic categories sports oriented like modern TKD , traditional arts like Aikido and the fighting arts which include Kenpo. They all have their place and bring different things to the table.

@@GothamKnight84661 Yup, There are many styles of American Karate now our days. I am mainly talking about the style presented here in this video. If you really want to talk about an American martial art just look at the Marine Corps Martial arts program.

@@wyldvigilante I beg to differ, Sports oriented, Entertainment oriented (Kata performance which is ridiculous), Traditional self defense. What I found disengenuous about the interview is that he didn't touch the main point, American Karate tries to sell Karate as a product and obviously for people to make money off of it. The commercialisation of Karate itself. Okinawa has it as a way of life, Japan has it as a National pride, America has it as a product. With that comes all the issue that come with commercializing any art. Loss of intent, watering down to appeal to most people possible etc. Happens in music, Martial Arts and every other art. Once it becomes marketable, it loses it's true identity and intent. Or it shifts....

@Revario X I think one has to take into something that is rarely addressed and that is the monetization of martial arts in general. You make a critical point by pointing that out. I have taught both commercially and privately. Teaching commercially means you have to run a business . Teaching privately means you better have some material to teach. In American society it is often the big Mcdojo that is successful in business because he is treating it as business. I also never charge for my private lessons so no $ is involved and that creates a different relationship.

Karate did not originate in Japan, it originated in Okinawa. Okinawa and Japan are two very different cultures and Okinawan Karate and Japanese Karate are extremely different. Karate started in Okinawa and then migrated to Japan (largely credited to Ginchin Funakoshi) and from there it spread around the world. Karate evolves and takes on the culture it goes to and can become a different flavor. For example, Shorin Ryu is basically Shuri Te, one of the first Karate styles created. It went to Japan and became Shotokan. Shotokan is the foundation for Tang Soo Do, which is why it's often called "Korean Karate". Karate came to America and mixed with a lot of other fighting styles. Ed Parker took his Kenpo training (which is Chinese in origin) and mixed it with Karate, boxing, judo and other styles creating what is known as American Kenpo Karate. The American Karate featured in this video is a heavily mixed with boxing and kickboxing. Made popular by Joe Lewis and Bill Superfoot Wallace. Bill Wallace originally learned Shorin Ryu, and merged that with his kickboxing style. So American Karate is a new flavor of fighting, with roots that can trace back to traditional Karate in Okinawa but heavily assimilated into American fighting styles.

It works! 😆 lol

So what you’re saying is pressure testing and literally proving something works isn’t enough evidence for you? I think you’re just butthurt whatever art you do doesn’t work

@@conorfiggs234 Nope, not butthurt. I think the martial arts were developed for survival, not for competition. Eye gouges, throat punches, and groin strikes are essential parts of survival tactics that are not used in competition. Certain things work in competiton. But BJJ and guard mount type nonsesne dosnt work with eye gouges, biting, and groin attacks. It only works in controlled competitive sport fighting.

​@@cicerojones9248 eye gouging and throat punching aren't some complicated techniques that make you lethal or definitely give the edge to survive. Anyone dedicates time to striking or grappling can pull them off

@@nickelmanful yup. And they work. They also make some other techniques that work in a sport situation completely useless.

There absolutely is such a thing if you understand generations and how arts spread. Karate originated in Okinawa (Not Taiwan). It was local fighting styles that mixed with some Chinese ideas to form the first generation of Karate. Then it went to Japan and was adapted to fit their culture. So Karate did not originate in Japan, but the second generation of it did. There are a lot of differences between Okinawan and Japanese Karate, even within the same "styles". Karate then went to Korea and merged with their fighting to become Tang Soo Do/Taekwondo. That's why TSD is often called "Korean Karate". Then Karate spread to other parts of the world, including America where it was combined with Kickboxing and other elements. Just because it's not exactly the same as original Okinawan Karate that doesn't mean it's not still Karate. It's a different generation/adaptation of it. That's like saying BJJ isn't actually Jiu Jitsu, because it originated in Japan. Japanese Jujutsu spread around the world, branched off into Judo, which became the basis of BJJ. Still a Jujutsu, but a different generation. American Karate is absolutely a thing, and a valid system at that.

@@ArtofOneDojo Pardon me but I meant Okinawa not Taiwan. now that I see it in Print - Stupid Mistake, Thankyou I was very Mistaken. the information was Much Appreciated.

Wasn't a waste of time for Superfoot Wallace or Joe Lewis.