What is Kaleidescape? | How Does Kaleidescape Work? | Is It Worth Buying Blurays in 2022?

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In this video I sit down with @kaleidescape and @sonyelectronics talk about how Kaleidescape works and why it is THE best way to watch movies at home.
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2:18 Kaleidescape file sizes
3:25 Changes at Kaleidescape
4:38 Kaleidescape file quality
6:09 Kaleidescape compared to Plex
7:30 Company growth during Covid-19
9:26 Kaleidescape parternships with other companies such as Sony
10:56 How to get a Kaleidescape system for your home
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@MovieUniversity Жыл бұрын

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@PSYCHOV3N0M Жыл бұрын

Physical 4K Blu-ray discs for LIFE! 😎👍

@MovieUniversity Жыл бұрын

Lol. I hear ya man.

@scottwallace1 Жыл бұрын

Avengers: Endgame 4K blu-ray = 65 and change GB. Avengers: Endgame Kaleidescape 4K HDR download = 105 and change GB. #math #common_sense_says_the_winner_is_??? #kaleidescape

@DuesenbergJ Жыл бұрын

@@scottwallace1 still physical. A streaming service can at any time remove the movies you want to watch. I don’t care how big the file was that I can’t get anymore.

@niceguy9790 Жыл бұрын

@@scottwallace1 might as well flush money down the toilet

@gunnyo50 Жыл бұрын

@@DuesenbergJ Kaleidescape isn't a streaming device. You have to download the files physically onto their hard drive servers. It's more like torrenting than streaming. Streaming is when you're accessing something that requires an internet connection, once you download these big files on the servers it remains there till you delete it. Nonetheless, it's very expensive but if one has the funds it's well worth looking into.

@-Insert_Name_Here.- Жыл бұрын

I like how the guy completely avoided and didn't answer this question "What separates Kaleidescape from another system like Plex?" Timestamp-06:08

@scotttild 5 күн бұрын

Price and that’s it I would be no one would be able to tell the diff between Plex and this service.

@garystinten9339 Жыл бұрын

I want Linus Tech tips to do a review of this system and how to build a "we have kaliedescape at home" system

@MrHandsomeStudios Жыл бұрын

That would be sick

@ArchThaBoss 2 ай бұрын

We should spam him so we can make this happen. God I would love that so much

@raredreamfootage 10 күн бұрын

I want Linus to build an app to consistently win the lottery, that would be sicker.

@Lior1973 Жыл бұрын

There is no Audio compression in UHD BD or HD BD. The audio is lossles = identical to the master version on both the UHD and the HD BD. In some casses the audio format is diffrent but in general what you have on the disc is identical to the studio master and should be the same on KDS.

@madfinntech Жыл бұрын

You can buy a nice stack of Blu-rays, even 4k ones with that Kaleidescape money before you even own any titles there. Edit: Oh yeah, I forgot to mention you have the resell value on your discs on top of that.

@MovieUniversity Жыл бұрын

If you got 9k to spend on a at home premium movie server, you’re not worried about the resale value of disc which will diminish even further. Look at used DVD prices now.

@Adam9306 Жыл бұрын

10k for the server and hard drive, but then you've got to pay for the movies? You're literally better off buying the discs, and you'll get the same quality.

@MovieUniversity Жыл бұрын

For one thing, the files from Kscape are larger than a 4k blu ray. Like I showed on screen, The Batman is 96Gb. Much much larger than what a 4K Blu-ray can hold. Secondly, if you got 10k to blow on a home server you’re not worried about money.

@Adam9306 Жыл бұрын

@@MovieUniversity haha. As far as I'm aware, 4k discs are 100gb, so I'm sure the batman 4k disc for example, is a 100gb file. I know Disney/fox are capping their discs at 66gb for some silly reason though. I think it's fox anyway.

@MovieUniversity Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Some disc are capped. Not with Kscape. There’s no limitation on the file size. Trust me, I too collect disc and still buy 4K Blu-ray’s. I’ve done a couple of videos on them. But there no denying that Kaleidescape looks and sounds better than a Blu-ray. Is it worth 9k? To me, no. Mostly because I don’t have 9k to blow. But I compared several movies I have on disc to the movies on Kscape and Kscape wins almost every time.

@TheInternetsIncinerator Жыл бұрын

@@MovieUniversity noone has that kind of money just lying around in this economy. dude, thats why we pirate.

@MovieUniversity Жыл бұрын

If there wasn’t a market for it the company wouldn’t have survived for over 20 years now.

@thecinematicguy 5 ай бұрын

Cool concept. I’d love to buy the video files from Kaleidoscope but I don’t want to be tied to their hardware or customer support program(s) because I’m tech savvy and don’t need any hand holding for configuration or implementation. I already digitize my physical media that I legally own and handle server configuration etc my self. Sorry.

@cheekster777 Жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@matt007 Жыл бұрын

I doubt your average streamer is gonna drop $10k to watch a movie at home. Most, if not all will be happy with Blue Ray or Netflix quality.

@MovieUniversity Жыл бұрын

you're not wrong. but the fact of the matter remains that there is a significant amount of people buying it. K-scape has been around for over a decade and continues to do well. That means people are buying their products.

@YoungBlaze Жыл бұрын

@@MovieUniversity Not trying to be funny but they seem like one of those money to burn tax write off companies where yes they have been around for a while but how in the hell are they profitable? It's almost like a money laundering business that needs to just exist.. But then again if they are partnered with a company that is doing a custom theater build I can see kind of how if a person spending $30,000 can randomly just add on $10,000 to blow for this system

@wendellwendellb339 Жыл бұрын

At damn near $9k, I’ll stick with the 4k UHD disc. I can’t justify paying that much for that system. Can you get DTS:X, Neural X, Auro 3D, IMAX Enhanced? I didn’t see anything about that!

@-Insert_Name_Here.- Жыл бұрын

or just use Kodi or Plex...

@NickkaDUB Жыл бұрын

The part where Plex comes in annoyed me a little. The tv and speakers aren’t centered.

@9latinumStudioz Жыл бұрын

$9,000 ✨🤯✨ 100gb 4k Hdr movies with lossless audio 😱 Sick home theaters 🤙⚡

@Apollos_Triumph 11 ай бұрын

What happenes to a movie or TV show you buy that becomes no longer available to buy? Can it be stored on a cloud server or do you have to keep it the server?

@viktorderka6348 Жыл бұрын

Did I get right that Kaleidescape movies differ from 4k UHD and bluray versions of the same movie? Are Kaleidescape movies greater in size than their physical counterparts? Where can I check and compare those? Also would be nice to see a comparison video of the same movie title like Kaleidescape vs 4k UHD disc. Are all subtitle languages also available for the Kaleidescape movies, or that is limited? Sorry for too many questions, but currently I have 1237 titles in bluray and 200 in 4k UHD at home in physical media and using Oppo 203 UHD player. As I see physical media is far more superior to any streaming service at this point. I saw quite pricey tags for a single movie in Kaleidescape realm, not sure if that is worth the price to have it upgraded. Also, if I have these movies on physical media, am I able to have those on Kaleidescape version or thats a different product of the same movie and hence a different story. Thank you for your answers!

@maduherbal3618 Жыл бұрын

Are kaleidescape have indonesian subtitle for all movie ? And 2 strato player can acces 1 server kaleidespape ?

@bonoki3870 Жыл бұрын

iam happy for those who are lucky to have this set-up. iam happy for those who enjoy streaming. iam quite happy with physical media especially when audio commentaries are included.

@MovieUniversity Жыл бұрын

Exactly how I feel.

@JKSmith-qs2ii 10 ай бұрын

Do I own the files? Do I get to copy them from their equipment to another device and play them any way I like, can I back them up? I don't like not owning a product I pay money for. For example, I can rip 4k Blu-rays choose audio and video tracks I want in a remux etc...

@Onotosho Ай бұрын

I like the concept for this tech. I live in alaska tho. I don't have the best internet. The download size you give as example would take 2 days to download one movie and that is if i am not sharing my connection. For now i will stick with the 4k blu ray

@lbs9587 10 ай бұрын

When this comes to europe?

@noni9pr33 8 ай бұрын

I don’t understand why Spanish and France audio is available but not German… many people speak it and the quality of the audio is really good!

@MovieUniversity 8 ай бұрын

That's a great question and I don't have a great answer. BUT I think it's because French and German are spoken but large groups of people outside of Europe due to the spread of those languages from the former empires.

@michaelalfredson4246 Жыл бұрын

With the inevitable upgrade do you feel this will scale appropriately? Will it be able to just increase file size with 8k so on and so forth and just have a need for larger hard drive? That would win me over.

@MovieUniversity Жыл бұрын

If I’m understanding your question, yes, it’ll scale up as time goes on.

@wickedhometheater3663 Жыл бұрын

@@MovieUniversity And you can add Terra storage to what you already have as file sizes increase.

@GodHatesXbox 7 ай бұрын

I’m not to sure what the inputs/outputs are on the system but 8k will be more limited by hardware than software. Need the 48mbps speed hdmi

@kira5348 Жыл бұрын

After watching Physical copy still can sell to other if the movie suck. Also can Keep the 4k disc sell BD and digital code to others.

@MovieUniversity Жыл бұрын

You’re right on all accounts. But if someone has $9k+ to spend on a movie server I doubt they care about resale value of disc.

@yoked1234 7 ай бұрын

Bro if I’m spending over 30k on a home theatre system like that and I call for support you better pick up the phone immediately. “We’ll get back to them the next day” is unacceptable 😂

@sbondi Жыл бұрын

Hmm, it seems to me that despite having greater bandwidth than 4K UHD for major movies, it is unlikely that Kaleidescape (which does not support the ultimate HDR standard: Dolby Vision) would look better than the corresponding 4K UHD with Dolby Vision - especially on a high-end TV :-(

@MovieUniversity Жыл бұрын

As I said a couple of times in this comment section, having tested out several movies I own on disc compared to Kscape there is a noticeable improvement. True, the video on Kscape is “only” HDR10, but I promise the higher bitrate on their files makes up for lack of DV support. Which to be honest, there are a plethora of articles and videos online stating that DV is not as good as Dolby claims it is.

@gmartin0312 Жыл бұрын

As a Kaleidescape owner I can tell you that I’ve used it on a Sony projector and now also an LG G2 83” and while it does not have Dolby Vision support I don’t see any real differences with the video from UHD and K. I will tell you the majority of people who buy K is for the audio and not having to purchase discs to watch a movie. As for me, I enjoy renting movies a lot more than buying them, sure I buy some I REALLY love but that’s few and far between. My primary reason for K is the renting in full quality bit rate I can take full advantage of the system I’ve poured a good amount of money in. UHD rentals are almost non-existent, Redbox is a joke, GameFly takes forever (when they are actually in stock) and streaming on Apple TV is NO WHERE near the quality you find on UHD and definitely not K. Yes, it is expensive but in the long run, if you’ve put in a lot of money into your system this would be the cherry on top. Speakers/TV > Processor > Amplifiers…

@richardr2555 7 ай бұрын

@@gmartin0312 How much does it cost to rent a movie on K?

@YoungBlaze Жыл бұрын

So what is the price to actually download one of these movies because I'm almost certain it sounds like your downloading almost the raw aspect of the film so that's got to be a huge file let alone price

@MovieUniversity Жыл бұрын

The price is usually a little above what you'd pay for a physical copy.

@doublet147 Жыл бұрын

Is it only movies or is TV series content also?

@MovieUniversity Жыл бұрын

They have TV shows too.

@richardr2555 7 ай бұрын

@@MovieUniversity What about Netflix or Amazon shows? I spend more time watching that than movies.

@user-cr6ki4qs4y 11 ай бұрын

I think it's funny how they mention Plex which is free if used on a local network. I think I'd be interested in purchasing Kaleidescape if they let me use my own sources plus the choice to use theirs. Others would be too. Lost business for sure.

@yourpalfranc Жыл бұрын

Kaleidescape may be many things. It may be the best movie experience for home theater. But, the one thing it is undoubtedly for me is just WAY TOO EXPENSIVE. Not even close. I can't even consider it. So, as long as the studios keep making discs, I'll wait and I'll be happy.

@MovieUniversity Жыл бұрын

I hear ya man. I’m in the same boat.

@yazidrashid7457 Жыл бұрын

ya me too....the said item is only for people with deep pocket

@YoungBlaze Жыл бұрын

What's the price of all this

@yourpalfranc Жыл бұрын

@@YoungBlaze Google to find the current price. Maybe $5K - $8K. Way too much for me.

@YoungBlaze Жыл бұрын

@@yourpalfranc I wonder what one movie cost

@Goodboy0953 Жыл бұрын

Is it True, that the 4K movie you purchase is the exact same file the movie theatre received???

@MovieUniversity Жыл бұрын

I don't believe so, BUT I'm currently working on a "logistics of movies in theaters" video and it'll answer this question for you.

@MrYiulau Жыл бұрын

Can’t justify a player without storage to cost 3 times more than my MacBook Pro. You can’t tell me your player is that much more powerful than a $120 AppleTV.

@Superdimensional Жыл бұрын

I’ll keep buying the discs… they come with the digital 90% of the time anyways .

@MovieUniversity Жыл бұрын

100% that’s what I do man. This is for the super rich who don’t need to mess with physical like us peasants

@Superdimensional Жыл бұрын

@@MovieUniversity if I had an extra 30-40 grand laying around I’d equip my home with these tho lol

@rajmodi3107 Жыл бұрын

👍

@fuzzylobster3497 5 ай бұрын

Can someone please explain how they claim to get higher bit rate video streams than 4k blu rays? Are they working with movie studios to get different versions or are their claims BS?

@jasonleetaiwan 5 ай бұрын

This seems more complicated than getting discs. There's no physical aspect to this. Just an improved version of streaming. I would be open to an improved version of 4k discs but I still want a physical object that goes on my shelf like a book.

@MovieUniversity 5 ай бұрын

Its more expensive than disc, but it's definitely not more complicated. Once setup is complete it's very easy to use. Since you're downloading the video file to the local hard drive there's no waiting for the disc to load and no buffering because you're not streaming a file from the internet. It's more convenient than disc because it doesn't take up shelf space and can get damaged.

@darillfow Жыл бұрын

Just a greedy company with overkill price tag. Nobody needs this, they want you think you need it. No you don't! You can buy 4K UHD Disc movies and that is all you need. Save you money, don't waste money on these crooks.

@David25522 Жыл бұрын

Not to mention that it doesn’t support Dolby Vision or HDR10+ It’s way way overpriced.

@gregkirby9059 8 ай бұрын

I think i'd rath have my dvd/blue rays because I can buy old movies

@MovieUniversity 8 ай бұрын

In the defense of Kaleidoscape, they have a decent amount of old movies you can purchase for the system.

@JorgeGlobalYOR Жыл бұрын

Question: Not long ago, 3D glasses were becoming a thing, but then it was all halted. Some say they’re coming back, others say that a new sort of technology on TV for 3D is coming. For those of us who are looking for 3D options, what do you suggest we should wait or expect for?

@MovieUniversity Жыл бұрын

To be honest man, I think 3D is dead for a while. I can't remember the last time I walked into a TV section at a store and saw a movie with 3D capability. There are seldomly movies sold with 3D support anymore. I think it'll probably make a comeback in another 7-10 years.

@JorgeGlobalYOR Жыл бұрын

@@MovieUniversity Ok. Thanks for your quick response! I guess the “nearest” thing to look for is too look for 8K screens. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@MovieUniversity Жыл бұрын

8k or the size of the screen are probably the big things. TVs are getting cheaper and cheaper. 65" is the "norm" these days. I bet in the next two years 85" OLEDs will be all the rage. On a similar note, my interview I did with Sony said that the next challenge the TV industry is trying to tackle is keeping young peoples folks on a TV or how to integrate tablets and phones with TVs.

@JorgeGlobalYOR Жыл бұрын

@@MovieUniversity ok ok ¡Muchas gracias!

@lawrence09151 Жыл бұрын

You don’t own plus internet data caps would be killed by downloading 10 x 4K movies

@codname125 Жыл бұрын

Who has data caps on WiFi?

@MovieUniversity Жыл бұрын

If you got 9k or more to blow on a movie server you’re not worried about data caps.

@codname125 Жыл бұрын

@@MovieUniversity is that a thing in America? I live in Germany and I've never heard of the concept of capping data on your home WiFi

@MovieUniversity Жыл бұрын

Some internet service providers in some parts of the US have limitations on data for your home. I have personally never had this issue, but I see comments on social media from time to time about this. I've lived in Charleston, SC, San Diego California, and Washington DC in the last ten years and have never experienced this.

@codname125 Жыл бұрын

@@MovieUniversity oh that sucks, thanks for explaining!

@maxstrmus4252 Жыл бұрын

Still you don't own these movies unlike physical discs.

@MovieUniversity Жыл бұрын

You're not wrong about not owning a physical copy, but this isn't like Movies Anywhere or Vudu where movies can be taken off and also require an internet connect. After you purchase and download your movie from Kaleidescape you can disconnect the unit from the internet and still watch your movies. I too collect disc like a lot of people who visit my channel. However, it's the owning of the disc that I care about, but rather having a better quality version of the movie over streaming. A system like Kscape has better quality than a disc. If I could afford it, I would whole heartedly get one.

@maxstrmus4252 Жыл бұрын

@@MovieUniversity Yet they are limited by the storage space in storing your favourite titles. I get that this a superior format especially for those who care about that slight improvement in video quality and are not into movie collection.

@MovieUniversity Жыл бұрын

Right again, but storage device I’m using has quite a few movies on it. My only thing is that the storage devices should be larger. The steep price is really for the licensing and the quality of the file itself.

@PMediaUK365 Жыл бұрын

only for the rich then!!

@MovieUniversity Жыл бұрын

haha. oh yeah!

@pedromvuus Жыл бұрын

So if you run out of storage and don't want to keep deleting stuff you are forced to buy another few thousand dollars server just for the disk space 🤔, no thanks Also if the server is so sofisticated as it should based on the cost, how come the player is so expensive if is just a dumb local network player

@wxman2003 28 күн бұрын

How it works. Pay $9000. And then pay $30 for each movie that you truly dont own.

@williee2560 Жыл бұрын

😝 ᵖʳᵒᵐᵒˢᵐ

@aussieexpat Жыл бұрын

Still very unclear how this service "beats" Discs.

@MovieUniversity Жыл бұрын

It beats it because the file size are encoded at a higher bit level. I compared movies I owned on disc to movies on the Kscape server the company sent me and I can confirm there’s an improvement. Now is it worth $9k? Not to me most because I don’t have that kind of money sitting around 😂 but if I did I’d totally buy one.

@aussieexpat Жыл бұрын

@@MovieUniversity well if you show it in the video, then that would be good. Its also unclear, wven with thatn why the files are bigger. What are the examples you found?

@MovieUniversity Жыл бұрын

I do show a screen shot of The Batman file size on screen. That movie is 96 Gbs. Most 4k UHDs come 66 Gb disc. While there are some discs that can hold 100 Gb they're typically not used. For instance Disney only sells its movies on 66 Gb disc. The files Kaleidescape releases don't have to worry about disc space. It's not just the disc space either.

@darillfow Жыл бұрын

It doesn’t, it’s call brainwashed so they can make huge profits for their overkill price tag. 🙄

@aussieexpat Жыл бұрын

@@MovieUniversity So it's just a coincidence the only example we've seen is one that would actually fit on a disc... Can you find a single movie that exceeds blu ray capacity considering the claim that they can exceed the disc space? I'm thinking maybe the 3 hour long Elvis?

@madwarrior84 Жыл бұрын

Small market for the rich, not for the mass market!!!

@MovieUniversity Жыл бұрын

It’s basically the ferrari of media players

@v.z4084 8 ай бұрын

Only for rich

@matthewweitz1949 9 ай бұрын

Until they pull an Ultra Violet and go out of business

@PIPERBOYWILLIAMS Ай бұрын

Too expensive. This must be sponsored

@iampuzzleman282 Жыл бұрын

This video is a waste it doesn't answer the questions

@davidbeetham8481 Жыл бұрын

OK - This video is blowing smoke up peoples arse !!!! You bring on two people who want to sell you this - but why did you NOT bring on someone who wants to talk about the CONS..... OH NO - that that would look bad for our system - People grow a pair - and let that person say what they wan't !!!!!!! THEN LISTEN TO THE BAD SIDE OF KALEIDESCAPE..... " LIKE WHEN U DOWNLOAD A MOVIE -WHO ACTUALLY OWNS IT ? DO I HAVE TO KEEP PAYING FOR IT - AND IF IT GOES IN STORAGE IN THE CLOUD, I BETTER NOT HAVE TO PAY TO KEEP IT THERE ".......

@MovieUniversity Жыл бұрын

If someone has $20k USD to blow on a digital media player; I doubt they’re worried about the downsides of it.

@lancegreider6951 Жыл бұрын

You keep saying if you got 10k to blow well blow it up your ass a fool and his money soon parted

@CampRusso 19 күн бұрын

It sounds cool if you want to movie files right from the studios. However I agree, seems like it’s for the wealthy. Also, 20k for a home theater seems very low from those images in the video. 😆 The homelab community will have to stick with our own media servers. Emby FTW 😁🤘