Wow. That’s a feat! I wouldn’t want to cut such a complicated pattern on such a crude machine. But good on you for doing it anyway!!

Totally agree Steve! 🥲

Well said Steve.

For that one you have to pay for the class at facetingapprentice.com. We have a class on hand shaping girdles

Yes that’s used in Thailand too but that’s just for the preforming step you make the shape with that and then put it into some kind of faceting device to cut the facets and polish them.

@@JustinKPrim Thanks for the explanation :)

All the orders I’ve seen are +0/-0.02mm. I’m sure some watch manufacturers have different standards though.

I think they use a 45 degree table adapter like mast machines. They put the dop in there and put the adapter in the pink handpiece and then set your height correctly.

@@JustinKPrim That makes sense. Thanks for your reply.

Hey the glass on the camera is part sapphire ! 😂😂😂

@@JustinKPrim yes but it's not yellow! My Android is made of gorilla Glass. I'll try to facet it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I’ve only ever seen this done as the preforming step or for cabs. I’d love to see the video because in my experience, no professional cutters facet like this. It would be extremely hard and take a long time with likely poor quality.

I’ve never heard of this, but I can imagine that if you have a windowed stone that is getting light from the backside when you look at it in tweezers, then yes it would be darker when set because the setting/finger is obscuring the back of the stone.

Ruby sapphire… it’s a synthetic corundum. Maybe it’s a ruby, maybe it’s too purple. You choose.

Hmmm. So many visable there but the classic is a mixed cut pear. Brilliant crown, step cut bottom

A window means that the cutter didn’t take the material into consideration when they cut the stone. Every gemstone has special angles that they need to be cut at in order to make the light and color reflect everywhere throughout the stone. If you look back at the video at 12:07 you can see that both of those yellow stones have an empty spot in the middle where you can see through the stone. You can see the white background through the stone instead of seeing the yellow reflecting. This is a bad cut stone because the angles are not right and you don’t get the full experience of yellow color throughout the whole stone and it can be improved through better cutting. I hope that’s helpful and makes sense.

@@JustinKPrim thank you! I started looking at some faceted amethyst I bought off etsy and they all have a window. I only paid $40 for 4 12×10mm stones so I didn't expect great quality but I'm glad I'm learning about what to look for.

It's a synthetic sapphire.

@@JustinKPrimI don't usually go for synthetics, but it's really beautiful.

Thanks. It was cut by my wife Victoria Raynaud@@MichaelPhillipsatGreyOwlStudio

@@JustinKPrim She did a great job. The sunny nature of the stone is accented by the solar/floral shapes at the center. Sort of like a sunflower.

Cutting using a dremel is getting into the realm of carving but if you mean faceting without a faceting machine, it’s called free hand faceting. I’ve done it for a few stones before I learned to facet. There’s a guy that was in my lapidary club in San Francisco that’s been doing it for over 10 years and is really good at it now.

@@SophieMire-ek1fn nothing is for sale.

Laser cut is something now that as far as I known only exists for diamonds. It is exactly what it sounds like. A laser beam is guided by a fine water jet and they can actually cut all the facets on a diamond like this. They still need to polish them by hand though because the laser leaves the diamond’s surface burned.

@@JustinKPrim interesting thanks. Is it mostly used on diamonds because its expensive or for another reason?

@@idonthaveaname42 the colored stone industry doesn’t have the same technology at all. Diamond cutting is completely planned by computers and now can be executed digitally with these lasers. Colored stones are planned by human eyes and brains and they don’t use any kind of gem scanner or even much technology. Colored stones are still a traditional art.

@@SophieMire-ek1fn sorry. I’ve never been to Australia

Have you seen that angry turtle is now making an upgrade kit for the vevor machine to replace the garbage? You might want to start there. Otherwise I always recommend a sterling Handpiece machine because they’re the most affordable at $2000 and work great. That’s what I use. Here’s the angry turtle upgrade kit video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o65xgs6pv8_Ihnk.htmlsi=4p_O8Wri_jhQpuXO

@@JustinKPrim thanks for your reply. I did watch the video and I have already contacted them and waiting for their reply. One question about your reply. What is sterling handpiece machine? Can you give me an example please before I spend money on the kit or other things. My budget is limited and I am very very new to this hobby and hoping to learn at this age that I am. Thanks Justin.

@@sinceresincere-th4dt sterling is the main machine i use. I have a billion videos on my channel showing it but here’s the overview: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qciPZMV5sLLUmY0.htmlsi=YwFx73s9Gx3ZuZzl

@@JustinKPrim Thanks Justin. It is an amazing machine actually and had never seen it before. I will be conducting more search and maybe I will order it. Thanks again my friend. (Tony)

@@JustinKPrim Hello Justin. I got in touch with them and all I realized was a scam. Most probably they are working with Vevor and they are asking for 293 dollars for few screws and magic pen and sand paper. I bought all of those from Nona for only 7 dollars. LOL what a difference.

I've found quite a few ideas and think I know how I'm going to go about it, but I'm curious about your opinion of where this would fit with your definitions.

The most traditional old cut is cabochons. You can find lots of example of bibles covered in giant cabs from the medieval period. However if you want it to be faceted, the rose cut is one of the earliest, from 1550ish and would great for a bible cover. This is also from around the time of the reformation so if it’s a Protestant bible, that’s perfect timing!

Thank you kindly for your response. I actually didn't know the correct name them but I was originally planning on cabochons, but it is a protestant Bible and having some rough rose cuts would make it even better. I think I'll try for it. Thank you!

When the bottom of the stone is cut with angles that are too shallow for the material, it doesn't create the mirroring effect, so we call it a Window because light passes through the stone like a window instead of reflecting like a mirror. If the stone has a window you can see what's behind the stone and the stone looks dull and has less color saturation.

@@JustinKPrim Thank you very much for the quick reply! 🙏😎🙏. Your videos are exceptionally well received

@@greeneyedguy thank you!

Good idea

I’m not sure what this means

Sorry I dont know where you can buy one online. I know that World Jewelry Tools in Bangkok has these types of machines for sale but I don't know if they are of good quality.

Anything I would say in response to your comment is already in the video so I can only conclude that you didn’t really absorb the info in the video. I don’t agree with your statement but it’s ok if we don’t agree. As I say in the video, people use these names and ideas to mean different things in different places.

@@JustinKPrim "pre·ci·sion noun the quality, condition, or fact of being exact and accurate." you would include intelligence in the process. This would define what a "Precision Cut" is. "Machine Cut" could define as no intelligence of the cut being used. "Hand Cut" Hand cutting means cutting components from patterns by hand. In the video you kept referring to the method of cutting, and then the results of cutting, and how hand cutting can achieve precision cutting. In Physics 'which I am taking: Precision is defined as referring to the closeness of two or more measurements to each other." Accuracy ' Accuracy refers to the closeness of a measured value to a standard or known value. this is one of the first lessons the Ph'D professor teaches because it is misunderstood quite often. I do understand that 'Sales People make stuff up, then it becomes something else.

@@johnhodgson4216 you’re pulling words out of the dictionary or out of your own imagination. I’m pulling words out of the jewelry trade and discussing how people around the world use those words to mean vastly different things. It doesn’t really matter what the dictionary definition says the word means, if people use it to mean something different. Precision means quality but people use it to mean different things as I said in the video. Americans use it when they really mean meetpoint cutting and faceted girdles. Swiss use it when they’re talking about very precise tolerances on tapered baguettes. Some people say machine cut to mean mast machine, some people say machine cut to mean Korean machine, some people say machine cut to mean automatic machine, a.k.a. robot cutting. As someone who works in the gemcutting trade, runs a gemcutting business, and works with several gemcutting factories, the point of this video was to make people aware of the dramatically different usage of these words around the world. Your comment illustrates this perfectly. What you think those words mean is different what I think those words mean and it’s different than what my customer thinks those words mean. There’s so much to say about this that I could make a whole video. Oh wait… The point is that there’s no standard definition of what any of these words mean for Gemcutting and it’s better to just speak about quality terms. Precision cut is a great term and it’s clear what it should mean, but machine cut, hand cut, native cut, etc. These terms don’t have any clear inherent meaning to someone coming into the jewelry trade. Again, this is the whole point of me making this video.

@@JustinKPrim I don't makeup what words mean, I referred to a dictionary; and the terms of a dictionary. Precision, Accuracy, and Machine are clear definitions. Sales Jargon is just makeup definitions, that's the problem.

What part of canada are you in. I know a bunch of cutters in Montreal, Edmonton, and Vancouver. There is also a new group in Facebook called Canadian faceting. I would join that group. As far as sterling, you need to message them and get a quote with shipping and then do a bank transfer. The website is for info only, not ordering.

@@JustinKPrim Hello Justin. I am in Kingston Ontario . I am more close to Montreal. Thanks for the tip. I will get in touch with them. Lets see what will happen next. Thanks again my friend. Cheers.

@@sinceresincere-th4dt go to montreal and meet the cutters at Rippana gems. Super nice people, good cutters, nice stones. Find them on instagram and make an appointment. They can probably help connect you to more local cutters.

@@JustinKPrim Thanks Justin. You are a great help and a perfect teacher my friend. God Bless. Cheers. I will get in touch with you soon after I meet the people in Rippana.

Yes. Justin K Prim

I get mine from the machine manufacturer. In this case, sterling. I’ve never bought third party dops before.