@deanfloyd8931 Wise!

@@BibleAnswerMan not really actually this topic is debated and talked about all the time you're not really "pushing the envelope" with this pretty mainstream topic

@@eg4848 One thing is certain: Israel shall rule the world with their Messiah and King, the Lord Jesus Christ, during the Millennial Kingdom.

@@davidlafleche1142. Definitely not certain. I certainly don’t believe that!

@@jatonnamorgan7669 "Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion" (Psalm 2:6).

The following proves you are correct. Proof the 70th week of Daniel was fulfilled in the past: Based on Hebrews 12:22-24, the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26 cannot be separated from the New Covenant fulfilled by His blood at Calvary. See the words "church" and "mount Sion" and "new covenant" and "Jesus" and "blood" in the passage. Are we supposed to believe the angel Gabriel appeared to Daniel to reveal the timeline of the Messiah who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and then the angel failed to even mention the New Covenant. Or, is the covenant with the many in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the many in Matthew 26:28? The 1599 Geneva Bible is the Bible the Pilgrims brought to America, before John Darby showed up on our shores about the time of the Civil War. What was the earlier understanding of Daniel 9:27 found below in the notes of the 1599 Geneva Bible? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dan 9:27 And he shal confirme the couenant with many for one weeke: and in the middes of the weeke he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the ouerspreading of the abominations, he shall make it desolate, euen vntill the consummation determined shalbe powred vpon the desolate. Daniel 9:27 And he (a) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to (b) cease, (c) and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. (a) By the preaching of the Gospel he affirmed his promise, first to the Jews, and after to the Gentiles. (b) Christ accomplished this by his death and resurrection. (c) Meaning that Jerusalem and the sanctuary would be utterly destroyed because of their rebellion against God, and their idolatry: or as some read, that the plague will be so great, that they will all be astonished at them.

That is absolutely true! Thanks for sharing!!!

@CTChipmunk Keen observation!

Yes. Trace back the events that were *_supposed_* to happen with the *_incorrect_* translation: The 7 year Tribulation, a future physical 3rd temple, a future “The antichrist”, future Rapture, and future 2nd coming amongst many other things. When you finally figure it out, the puzzle is complete. No more confusing false teachings.

Stop using the word "dispensationalism." I know the difference between Israel and the church. But I also know that people have always been saved by faith alone, regardless of where or when they lived.

@maxreisinger9782 Well put.

@@BibleAnswerMan Thank you!

The church has always been the faithful remnant.

@@maxreisinger9782 Not true, God's people according to the Old Covenant were *_broken off_* because of their unbelief, and *_replaced_* by the 'wild olive branches' God's people according to the New Covenant by faith in Christ. See --> Romans 11:17−21

@@Jason-Austin What you write does not apply to the people as a whole. Broken off means every single person. Although unbelief refers to judgment in exile, the passage in Romans 11 refers to individual branches and not all branches. You can check the whole thing when you see that they are grafted in again when they believe. Faith is something personal, no one can believe for someone else. This is also an indication that Romans 11:25 is not about a general amnesty for Israel, but rather an event that will gradually happen to the people of Israel until the Second Coming if they believe in the Messiah. Symbolically speaking, these are those who have not bowed their knee to Baal, as the chapter begins.

I have that book & it was really a huge help!! GOD lead me to his the Bible answer man broadcast unfortunately the dispensationalists destroyed his broadcast but thank God he's still around on other things like his podcast!! Thanks Hank God bless you‼️✝️🙏🤗

@@brendaevans1378Yup, dispensationalists absolutely destroyed his FM radio show. I’ve been listening to Hank even way back when he took over the airwaves for the late Dr. Walter Martin as the first and original “Bible Answer Man” host. I love Hank’s Godly service and CRI’s ministry has helped me tremendously. I’ve also been a monthly contributor to his ministry for years and years.

EXCELLENT BOOK! I bought two copies… one to give to a close friend of mine. I’m going to read it again!

Everyone claims that modern “Jews” are the most persecuted people in the world. But they also get protected. Yet, the “Shepards Of Israel” will immediately label a full preterist a heretic. The irony is astounding. Those people in Israel are imposters.

God is planning to set up Israel to rule the world.

Good to know that we are not the only ones not believing in something unBiblical.

Amen. 🙏

Heretic? No. Confused? Absolutely. The Body of Christ Church began with Paul because Israel fell and diminished. Romans 11:11-12.

Replacement theology is actually good old theology that replaces ridiculous new theology Haha... True

Matt 5 17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till "ALL BE FULFILLED".

@allmanccWell full preterism is heresy. Historic Christianity has always affirmed Christ will appear a second time to judge the living and the dead. See www.equip.org/articles/apocalypse-when/

1 Peter 4 7 *_But the end of all things is at hand:_* be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer. ALL things: The Old Covenant, the Old heaven, and old earth. Ezekiel 34 2 Son of man, *_prophesy against the shepherds of Israel,_* prophesy, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God unto the shepherds; *_Woe be to the shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves! should not the shepherds feed the flocks?_* 8 As I live, saith the Lord God, *_surely because my flock became a prey, and my flock became meat to every beast of the field, because there was no shepherd, neither did my shepherds search for my flock, but the shepherds fed themselves, and fed not my flock;_* Shepards Of Israel = those that came after the Apostles that lead the sheep astray. Revelation 20 9 And they went up on the *_breadth_* of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. We live on a *__spherical_* earth. *_A sphere does not have breadth._* Revelation 21 1 And I saw a new heaven and *_a new earth:_* for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

@bigg4454 Thanks for sharing.

New Covenant Whole Gospel: How many Christians cannot honestly answer the first three questions below? Who is now the King of Israel in John 1:49? Is the King of Israel now the Head of the Church, and are we His Body? Why did God allow the Romans to destroy the Old Covenant temple and the Old Covenant city, about 40 years after His Son fulfilled the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34 in blood at Calvary? Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart. Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36) We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24. God is not now a “racist”. He has extended His love to all races of people through the New Covenant fulfilled by His Son’s blood at Calvary. Watch the KZfaq videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay. ========= Who is really teaching “Replacement Theology” ? (Did God fulfill His promises to the Jewish people at Calvary? Matthew 26:28, John 19:30) The advocates of modern Dispensational Theology often accuse others of promoting “Replacement Theology”, or some may even say “Antisemitism”. What does the Bible say about their accusations? 1. Who is replacing Christ as the seed of Abraham through which all the families of the Earth would be blessed in Genesis 12:3, with Abraham’s modern descendants? (See Paul’s interpretation in Galatians 3:8, 3:16.) 2. Who is replacing the one people of God in John 10:16, with two peoples of God ? 3. Who is replacing the one seed (Christ) in Galatians 3:16, with the many seeds? 4. Who is replacing the children of the promise in Romans 9:8, with the children of the flesh? 5. Who is replacing the word “remnant” in Romans 9:27, with the word “nation”? 6. Who is replacing the faithful “remnant” of Israelites in Romans 11:1-5, with the Baal worshipers? 7. Who is replacing the word "so" in Romans 11:26, with the word "then"? 8. Who is attempting to replace the Church made up of all races of people, with one made up only of Gentiles? Why did Peter address the crowd as “all the house of Israel” in Acts 2:36, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted Christ on the Day of Pentecost? 9. Based on Hebrews 12:18-24, the New Covenant cannot be separated from the Messiah’s death. Is the covenant in Daniel 9:27 connected to the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26. Is the covenant with the “many” in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the “many” in Matthew 26:28? If it is, some have replaced the New Covenant in Daniel 9:27 with a future covenant made by an antichrist not found in Daniel chapter 9. (See the 1599 Geneva Bible used by the Pilgrims.) 10. Those promoting the Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology often accuse others of teaching “Replacement Theology”, but are they the masters of it? Are they promoting a form of Dual Covenant Theology based on race? (See “genealogies” in Titus 3:9) Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? 11. Watch the KZfaq video “Genesis of Dispensational Theology” to see the origin of this man-made doctrine, which is less than 200 years old. It was brought to the United States about the time of the Civil War by John Nelson Darby. The doctrine was later incorporated into the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible, and then spread through much of the modern Church. Dallas Theological Seminary in Dallas Texas was created in part to promote John Darby’s Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology. Lewis Sperry Chafer, the first president of Dallas Theological, had the following to say about the difference between Israel and the Church: “The dispensationalist believes that throughout the ages God is pursuing two distinct purposes: one related to the earth with earthly people and earthly objectives involved which is Judaism; while the other is related to heaven with heavenly people and heavenly objectives involved, which is Christianity.” Lewis Sperry Chafer, Dispensationalism (Dallas, Seminary Press, 1936), p. 107. Chafer states that, ‘Israel is an eternal nation, heir to an eternal land, with an eternal kingdom, on which David rules from an eternal throne,’ that is, on earth and distinct from the church who will be in heaven.” Lewis Sperry Chafer. Systematic Theology. 1975. Vol. IV. pp. 315-323. John Walvoord, another prominent voice of Dallas Theological stated… "...it is an article of normative dispensational belief that the boundaries of the land promised to Abraham and his descendants from the Nile to the Euphrates will be literally instituted and that Jesus Christ will return to a literal and theocratic Jewish kingdom centred on a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. In such a scheme the Church on earth is relegated to the status of a parenthesis.” John F. Walvoord, The Rapture Question.1979, p. 25 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Are there two peoples of God in John 10:16? (See also 1 John 2:22-23, 2 John 1:7-11.) What is the land promise to the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:15-16? (See what Joshua said about the Old Covenant land promise in Josh. 21:43.) Based on 2 Peter 3:10-13, is this earth “eternal”? Will it be replaced by a new earth? Based on Acts 2:36, and Romans 9:6-8, and Romans 11:1-5, and Hebrews 12:22-24, and James 1:1-3, can faithful Israel and the Church be separated into two different groups? Who is the New Covenant promised to in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and is it fulfilled by the blood of Christ at Calvary in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 12:18-24? Will modern Orthodox Jews ever be saved outside of the New Covenant Church, if the New Covenant is “everlasting” in Hebrews 13:20? (See also 2 Thess. 1:7-10) If the New Covenant has made the Old Covenant “obsolete” in Hebrews 8:6-13, why would God go back to the Old Covenant system during a future time period? Read the recent book "The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism", by Daniel G. Hummel......

Steve Gregg is another great resource. Also when the Lord started calling me out of dispensationalism approx 2 years ago. All I did was read from Genesis to Revelation over and over and one day smack bang it all hit me. God is a rewarder of those who seek Him diligently. Guard your heart when you do come out, you'll be called all manner of names.

@@markdonnaabbott3977 Amen to Pastor Steve Gregg. Because he used to teach Dispensational Theology, he knows what is wrong with it. Pastor Chuck Baldwin has also done a great job lately.

@majormattmason8408 Appreciate the nugget of wisdom.

@UltimateCreedFan Check out this video - on All Israel > kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pc2mpMp309jekac.html

@SurfFishingFan66 Thanks for sharing. 🙏 Yes lots of misunderstanding on Israel, Church, and God's people.

@SpotterVideo Can you give a 2-3 sentence synopsis of Hummel's The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism?

@@BibleAnswerMan Hummel did an excellent job of tracing the doctrine back to John Darby but ignored Edward Irving's part at the beginning. He also reveals how most universities have abandoned this un-Biblical doctrine, but that fact has not yet trickled out to many people sitting in the pews of America's churches. He names the Zionists like Falwell, and LaHaye, and many others in the book. It is a great read overall.

Wow, together with Hank’s explanations over the years about the “sensational myth” (my words) of dispensationalism, your detailed explanation here is like icing on the cake! You and Hank make iron sharpening iron come to life on this topic! Thank you for your comments here, I’m printing them out and going back to read every passage you listed.

@@colt10mmsecurity68 Watch the KZfaq video "Genesis of Dispensational Theology", if you want to see the original source of the "Two Peoples of God" doctrine in black and white. It came from Edward Irving's English translation of a book written by a Roman Catholic Jesuit priest named Manuel Lacunza.

@@SpotterVideo I will watch it today. Thank you!

Interesting. Reminded me of Isaiah 5:3 right there.

Amen. 👍

@andinorth1507 Blessings.

There is not a single verse telling us there is a pretribulation rapture - the idea that God is going to remove the Church from the Earth before the start of a future seven-year Great Tribulation that ends with Jesus' Second Coming and the start of the Millennium. See www.equip.org/articles/apocalypse-when/ www.equip.org/article/left-behind-from-root-to-ripened-fruit/ www.equip.org/bible_answers/what-is-replacement-theology/

Thanks for sharing.🙏

You can be ignorantly wrong in all theology teaching except the teaching on Christ's truth concerning salvation! Repent and accept Christ as both Lord & savior of your life and follow Him in obedience according to scripture! Your next set if at all possible would be to be baptised in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit!

Gods covenants are everlasting. Dispies don’t believe, however, first testament covenants belong to the new covenant. The new covenant didn’t replace the older covenants, it replaced the types and shadows of the temple system and made them better.

@jasonnull1692 good summation on the sine qua non of dispensationalism according to Charles Ryrie. Check out our article. www.equip.org/articles/does-the-bible-make-a-distinction-between-israel-and-the-church-/ and www.equip.org/article/dispensationalism-indispensable/

@LovelyLadyLissett Appreciate the insight.

@davekpghpa mid-trib. take is one way to look at things. What if the idea of a still yet future Great Tribulation is also off kilter too? See www.equip.org/articles/apocalypse-when/

@user-wk6bc6hl1i Well, there is land designated for Palestinians, it is just Israel is moving out the Palestinians from their designated lands and building settlements for Jews. See www.equip.org/article/excavating-palestines-villages-review-of-erased-from-space-and-consciousness-israel-and-the-depopulated-palestinian-villages-of-1948/ www.equip.org/articles/the-little-known-plight-and-important-cause-of-the-palestinian-christian/ www.equip.org/articles/modern-israel-in-bible-prophecy-promised-return-or-impending-exile/ www.equip.org/product/god-side-dvd/

I was searching for what Irenaeus said on this matter. Can you please provide the reference where I can find what he says on this subject? Thank you.

@joshuap969 Can you give a short synopsis of what St. Irenaeus said? 2-3 sentences?

I would have to find a physical copy again, but I recall having read his explanation of those who accepted Christ as Savior, vs the Jews by blood, as Israel. I'm looking online in .pdfs but have yet to pinpoint. It may be The Apostolic Preach of Against Heresies.

@@BibleAnswerMan It is long, but from what I'm referencing it is On the Apostolic Preaching, chapt(?) 89-97. ccel.org/ccel/i/irenaeus/demonstr/cache/demonstr.pdf

@@joshuap969 Get a copy of "A Dictionary of Early Christian Beliefs". You'll find all of Irenaeus' quotes on the topic. But it may disappoint you that he was NOT a Dispensational Premillennialist.

@Truthispower701 Well the rapture and the final resurrection are the same event. Not 2 events 7 years apart. See www.equip.org/article/left-behind-from-root-to-ripened-fruit/

@maskofsorrow Good point. So long as we are clearly navigating away from suggesting God replaces one race (Jews) with another race (Gentiles) as part of His plan of redemption, and that God has two distinct peoples divided by the races, one people of a singular race (Jews) and another people of multiple races (Gentiles). See www.equip.org/articles/does-the-bible-make-a-distinction-between-israel-and-the-church/

@@BibleAnswerMan Totally agree Hank. The New Covenant Body of Christ is made up of Jews and Gentiles as Ephesians 2 and other Scriptures clearly tell us.

New Covenant Whole Gospel: How many modern Christians cannot honestly answer the first three questions below? Who is now the King of Israel in John 1:49? Is the King of Israel now the Head of the Church, and are we His Body? Why did God allow the Romans to destroy the Old Covenant temple and the Old Covenant city, about 40 years after His Son fulfilled the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34 in blood at Calvary? What the modern Church needs is a New Covenant Revival (Heb. 9:10) in which members of various denominations are willing to re-examine everything they believe and see if it agrees with the Bible, instead of the traditions of men. We need to be like the Bereans. It will be a battle between our flesh and the Holy Spirit. It will not be easy. If you get mad and upset when someone challenges your man-made Bible doctrines, that is your flesh resisting the truth found in God's Word. Nobody can completely understand the Bible unless they understand the relationship between the Old Covenant given to Moses at Mount Sinai and the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. What brings all local churches together into one Body under the blood of Christ? The answer is found below. Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him. He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth. Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by husband unto them, saith the LORD: Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? What did Paul say about Genesis 12:3 in Galatians 3:8, 3:16? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart. Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36) We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24. 1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. 1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us. The following verses prove the Holy Spirit is the master teacher for those now in the New Covenant. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Mar 1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost. Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. Act 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost. 1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. 1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. Watch the KZfaq videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay......

@GarryMartin-nw4zh Ehh ❓

@jameshoptry1770 Blessings!!! May our theological discussions with our Calvinists brothers and sisters in the Lord be done in the spirit of humility, gentleness, and respect.

"Lies of Dispensationalism"??? Dispensationalism is the only way to understand all of Scripture. Without it, you have to make up doctrine that Scripture doesn't teach. Without rightly dividing what is meant for Israel from what is meant for the Body of Christ Church, all you can hope for is confusion.

@mo86r97 Shared point of view appreciated.

The Republican CHURCH (not the Party) became the synagogue of Satan (Revelation 3: 9) when ALL the Pentecostal Rapture Prophets of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) and on Christian network TV, proclaimed Trump CHOSEN by God to rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem. 100's of millions deceived. Matthew 24: 24. The devil and dragon remain on Earth -- Revelation 12: 12-13. They intend to prove Mankind unfit for God's kingdom with a worldwide war -- and thereby to absolve themselves of blame. "After all," the devil argues, "Jesus, HIMSELF, tried to teach these beasts to love one another 1,994 years ago -- almost two full days in Heaven. Surely, the Ancient of Days will judge Man at fault. Or Jesus. Not Me." 2 Peter 3: 8 Matthew 5: 44-48. The devil is delusional. Daniel 7: 9-14. His judgement is set for 10/10/26. As for the rest of us beasts, our lives shall be prolonged while the saints share Jesus' Gospel of the brotherhood of all men and women, with all the nations. And when two-thirds of the people understand with their hearts, THEN Jesus will return in GLORY -- as He promised -- and not to destroy.

@MrSparkums What does that factoid have to do with dispensationalism's Israel and Church distinction?

@@BibleAnswerMan Most are the titles of Genetic or Philology studies written by scientists in quotes.. If most were never really "Israel" then how does the new covenant replace them? The other comment is a quote from the Jewish Encyclopedia..

@yosef6664 God does not replace one people with another. Neither Israel replaces the Church nor the Church replaces Israel. See www.equip.org/article/dispensationalism-indispensable/ and www.equip.org/articles/does-the-bible-make-a-distinction-between-israel-and-the-church-/

​​@@BibleAnswerManYes, replacement theology, fulfillment theolgy, supersessionism is not scriptural. Romans 11:13-24 ESV - Now I am speaking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch then as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry in order somehow to make my fellow Jews jealous, and thus save some of them. For if their rejection means the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance mean but life from the dead? If the dough offered as firstfruits is holy, so is the whole lump, and if the root is holy, so are the branches. But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, although a wild olive shoot, were grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing root of the olive tree, do not be arrogant toward the branches. If you are, remember it is not you who support the root, but the root that supports you. Then you will say, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.” That is true. They were broken off because of their unbelief, but you stand fast through faith. So do not become proud, but fear. For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you. Note then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God’s kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness. Otherwise you too will be cut off. And even they, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God has the power to graft them in again. For if you were cut from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, the natural branches, be grafted back into their own olive tree.

Romans Chapter 11: In its New Covenant context... There is no Plan B of salvation outside of the New Covenant Church in this passage. Plan A is found in verses 23 and 24. In Romans 1:16 Paul said the Gospel was taken "first" to the Jews. This time period can be found in Matt. 10:5-7, and Acts 10:36-38, and Gal. 1:14-18. Many try to claim God never gave the Jews a chance to accept Christ, so there must be some Plan B of salvation before or during the Second Coming of Christ. Romans 1:16 proves they are wrong, since Paul said the Gospel went "first" to the Jews. Many ignore the fact that Peter addressed the crowd as "men of Judea", and as "men of Israel", and as "all the house of Israel" on the Day of Pentecost, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. The Gentiles were not grafted in until several years later. This passage proves Paul was right about the Gospel being taken "first" to the Jews. Were all of the Israelites "partially" hardened in Romans 11, or were part hardened and another part were not hardened? The answer is found in the "remnant" of Romans 11:5. Paul reveals two different groups of Israelites in Romans 9:6-8. There is an Israel of the promise, and an Israel of the flesh. This is part of the context of Romans 11. Paul speaks about the "remnant" of Israel in Romans 9:27. This is also part of the context of Romans 11. Paul starts Romans 11 with two different groups of Israelites. In verse one Paul reveals he is still an Israelite, even after his conversion. Then Paul refers to two different groups of Israelites during the time of Elijah. There were the Baal worshippers, and there was the faithful "remnant". In verse five Paul says there is also a faithful "remnant" of Israelites during his time. This must be the Israelites who have accepted Christ, as on the Day of Pentecost. Paul uses the two olive trees as a symbol of the New Covenant Church made up of believing Israelites, and believing Gentiles grafted together into the same tree. The unbelieving Israelites have been broken off but can be grafted back in through faith in Christ in verses 23-24. Verse 26 is the problem for many modern Christians. What does the verse actually say, and how is it changed by many in the modern Church. I have heard two of our nations famous preachers say the following. "And then all Israel will be saved..." I have heard another say the following. "And all Israel will be saved..." What does God's Word, recorded by the Apostle Paul actually say? Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: The English word "so" is translated from the Greek word "houto", which is an adverb of manner, instead of an adverb of timing. Some have changed the word from "so" to "then", in order to change the meaning of the verse. How will all of the "remnant" of Israel from Romans 9:27 be saved? The answer is found in the verses that precede verse 26 and are found below. Rom 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again. Rom 11:24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree? Paul quoted from the OT in referring to the Deliverer coming out of Sion to pay for sin. Did this happen at Calvary, or will Jesus die again for His people in the future? Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. Verse 28 can only be understood by looking at how Paul started the passage. He started with two different groups of Israelites and he ends the passage in the same way. There are two different groups of "they" in verse 28. One group of "they" reject Christ and are the enemies of God, and another group of "they" are the election which accept Christ through hearing the Gospel and faith. Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. Based on Luke 21:24b-28, the times of the Gentiles comes to fullness at the Second Coming of Christ. This agrees with what Paul said in Romans 1:16 about the Gospel going “first” to the Jews.....

Yes, there are two covenants. The Law, which Christ said not one jot or tittel shall be done away with, works. The perfect law was the schoolmaster to teach us we are sinners and in need of a Saviour. The New Covenant is our sins, Jew and Gentile, being purchased by the precious Blood of the Passover Lamb, the Lion of the Tribe of Judah, the King of the Jews, Yeshua Hamashiach. Jesus is the King of the Jews. Jesus is the Kinsman Redeemer of the Church. The Church is Jesus Bride. Jesus is the Messiah of both the Church and Israel. The Church and Israel have two separate destinies in God’s one Plan of Salvation. Yeshua Hamashiach, Jesus, the Lion of the Tribe of Judah, the King of the Jews, the Kinsman Redeemer of the Bride of Christ, is the Savior of both, The Chuch and Israel. Both the Church and Israel are branches of the Vine of Christ and saved by the Blood Sacrifice of the Passover Lamb Jesus Christ the Lamb and Son of God who presently sits on His Father's throne. Both the Father and the Son hold the Church and Israel safely in Thier Hands. Praise God from Who all blessings flow, Glory to the Father, the King of the Universe.

@@yosef6664 You said..."The Church and Israel have two separate destinies in God’s one Plan of Salvation. " Who is really teaching “Replacement Theology” ? (Did God fulfill His promises to the Jewish people at Calvary? Matthew 26:28, John 19:30) The advocates of modern Dispensational Theology often accuse others of promoting “Replacement Theology”, or some may even say “Antisemitism”. What does the Bible say about their accusations? 1. Who is replacing Christ as the seed of Abraham through which all the families of the Earth would be blessed in Genesis 12:3, with Abraham’s modern descendants? (See Paul’s interpretation in Galatians 3:8, 3:16.) 2. Who is replacing the one people of God in John 10:16, with two peoples of God ? 3. Who is replacing the one seed (Christ) in Galatians 3:16, with the many seeds? 4. Who is replacing the children of the promise in Romans 9:8, with the children of the flesh? 5. Who is replacing the word “remnant” in Romans 9:27, with the word “nation”? 6. Who is replacing the faithful “remnant” of Israelites in Romans 11:1-5, with the Baal worshipers? 7. Who is replacing the word "so" in Romans 11:26, with the word "then"? 8. Who is attempting to replace the Church made up of all races of people, with one made up only of Gentiles? Why did Peter address the crowd as “all the house of Israel” in Acts 2:36, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted Christ on the Day of Pentecost? 9. Based on Hebrews 12:18-24, the New Covenant cannot be separated from the Messiah’s death. Is the covenant in Daniel 9:27 connected to the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26. Is the covenant with the “many” in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the “many” in Matthew 26:28? If it is, some have replaced the New Covenant in Daniel 9:27 with a future covenant made by an antichrist not found in Daniel chapter 9. (See the 1599 Geneva Bible used by the Pilgrims.) 10. Those promoting the Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology often accuse others of teaching “Replacement Theology”, but are they the masters of it? Are they promoting a form of Dual Covenant Theology based on race? (See “genealogies” in Titus 3:9) Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? 11. Watch the KZfaq video “Genesis of Dispensational Theology” to see the origin of this man-made doctrine, which is less than 200 years old. It was brought to the United States about the time of the Civil War by John Nelson Darby. The doctrine was later incorporated into the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible, and then spread through much of the modern Church. Dallas Theological Seminary in Dallas Texas was created in part to promote John Darby’s Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology. Lewis Sperry Chafer, the first president of Dallas Theological, had the following to say about the difference between Israel and the Church: “The dispensationalist believes that throughout the ages God is pursuing two distinct purposes: one related to the earth with earthly people and earthly objectives involved which is Judaism; while the other is related to heaven with heavenly people and heavenly objectives involved, which is Christianity.” Lewis Sperry Chafer, Dispensationalism (Dallas, Seminary Press, 1936), p. 107. Chafer states that, ‘Israel is an eternal nation, heir to an eternal land, with an eternal kingdom, on which David rules from an eternal throne,’ that is, on earth and distinct from the church who will be in heaven.” Lewis Sperry Chafer. Systematic Theology. 1975. Vol. IV. pp. 315-323. John Walvoord, another prominent voice of Dallas Theological stated… "...it is an article of normative dispensational belief that the boundaries of the land promised to Abraham and his descendants from the Nile to the Euphrates will be literally instituted and that Jesus Christ will return to a literal and theocratic Jewish kingdom centred on a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. In such a scheme the Church on earth is relegated to the status of a parenthesis.” John F. Walvoord, The Rapture Question.1979, p. 25 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Are there two peoples of God in John 10:16? (See also 1 John 2:22-23, 2 John 1:7-11.) What is the land promise to the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:15-16? (See what Joshua said about the Old Covenant land promise in Josh. 21:43.) Based on 2 Peter 3:10-13, is this earth “eternal”? Will it be replaced by a new earth? Based on Acts 2:36, and Romans 9:6-8, and Romans 11:1-5, and Hebrews 12:22-24, and James 1:1-3, can faithful Israel and the Church be separated into two different groups? Who is the New Covenant promised to in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and is it fulfilled by the blood of Christ at Calvary in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 12:18-24? Will modern Orthodox Jews ever be saved outside of the New Covenant Church, if the New Covenant is “everlasting” in Hebrews 13:20? (See also 2 Thess. 1:7-10) If the New Covenant has made the Old Covenant “obsolete” in Hebrews 8:6-13, why would God go back to the Old Covenant system during a future time period? Read the recent book "The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism", by Daniel G. Hummel.

@lonecar144 Skeptical of that interpretation.

Revelation was written before the destruction of Jerusalem and subsequent extinction of the Israelite race. The remnant turned to Christ and was saved. The rest were hardened and destroyed along with their temple. Modern Jews are not Israelites. They are Kabbalistic impostors.

Thanks for sharing.

You should watch this video again.

@jamesmoore2143 Shrewd point. Israel replaces the Church.

@elguapo2831 Pretty harsh slams. But the problem concerns the dispensational distinction between Israel and the Church. See www.equip.org/articles/does-the-bible-make-a-distinction-between-israel-and-the-church-/ and www.equip.org/article/dispensationalism-indispensable/