That story is one I will be doing in time. The old raystown dam and what took place.

So the Bass fishermen would actually go out with nails and hammers and pull together drift to make these? That's an insane amount of dedication to fishing for Bass. Even in these parts. (as you probably already know which "points" to go to and drop down for the Striper runs) or even dropping low in the middle of the Juniata to pull out the 20" Trout hiding down there.

@@ODDySEEy I promise, Bass Anglers Sportsmen's Society has been doing exactly that, for 30 years that I know of, in Raystown Lake. Until about 10 years ago, locals also dumped Christmas trees right in that spot, but I think they stopped because people were leaving tinsel and such on the trees. It works, too. If you fish on the upstream side of that culvert, fishing has been slow for 15 years (mostly spawning carp and average bream), but on the downstream side, it's much better.

A friend sent me a topo map that showed the church, pastors building, barn, and another out building. It also showed that there were a good many other homes along that road and the one that swings around to the other side of that mountain break. I will definitely have to go back and look more closely... if there are foundation remnants of the James Creek Church then there must be remnants of the other buildings too.

​@@ODDySEEy I my be able to help identify some of the objects you discovered in your video. When you were walking on the area with all the bricks, in front of the tall pole, that was the site of the church. It was a timber frame structure with thick brick walls. As you walked towards the point the slab of cement was most likely a piece of the wide sidewalk that ran in front of the church. The piece of metal box and the wire you were looking at is located close to the house that was the parsonage and is probably the phone or electric box and ground wire. The one piece of wood in the mud looks like the cross arm from an electric pole that ran along the township road and the water logged piece of wood may be a piece of the timber frame from the church, the building was put together with both wood pegs and large metal spike that look almost like railroad spikes with barbs. One last item is the white light weight stone you were looking at by the old railroad bed. As I mentioned in my previous message, there was a rail siding in that area where they loaded rail cars with iron ore; they also loaded lime and sand that was mined near by. I have seen some of your other video and know you enjoy exploring quarries. Most likely that white stone is some of lime from the quarry and kiln behind the Weller farm. If you are interested, it is easy to get to and is close to the road, I would be happy to identify the location. Once again thanks for the videos, this one in particular brings back tons of childhood memories.

Don't get caught... PA does not like magnets, digging, or detecting in these types of areas. If you do, tell me what you find and I will delete your post for "plausible deniability". ;)

Please send me an email with some pictures.

Damn fr bro?

Yeah... I am loving the things we find when lake waters get dropped. And I do a lot of trestles and viaducts so the base foundations is where I like to explore for their history.

I have been fishing the shores for a long time too. Heck, caught my first Lake Trout just off of Snyders Run... was the second biggest freshwater fish I had ever seen... what was until the Muskie struck the line. :D

I was getting ready to reach out to you. I would love to see those pictures. At the same time I just received some stuff from the 60's mapping out the area. Apparently, the building was the James Creek Church :)

Arrowheads... would make sense. Close to a creek bed in a former field perfect for planting. The osprey are in the area... I just never see them on the towers.

Interesting

Its funny to talk about hurricane flooding out in this area. 2,000 feet of elevation and 250 miles from any ocean... but even when Ida hit, it was technically not a hurricane here, it was just the leftover rain storms and maybe a little 20-30mph wind. But water on mountains must go somewhere.

Which reservoir was this? See my comment re: another NYS reservoir in the Adirondacks. I used to live in various parts of NY, from the city all the up to Massena in St. Lawrence Co. I moved to Northern Maine a year ago July 2020 from Queens, NYC…a Covid refugee who was retiring anyway! I wasn’t going to move for a few years, but with business and social activities down and crime up, there was nothing holding me there.

I so wanted to drone it. BUT... the lake is on "military" lockdown for drones. Which is really annoying in more ways than one.

So the story of the "houses" is made up. It was a very popular topic back when the lake was being filled. There were a lot of really angry people who lost their property through imminent domain and were really screwed. I can confirm that there is nothing but maybe a few foundations of houses and even then, they are most likely NOT visible due to the amount of silt that now covers the bottom of the lake.

10 foot pike lmao.

LOL... hopefully you fished it out with your other pole (no fisherman brings only one pole... especially if you are in a boat).

I figured... but am more curious of who put them out there and why. DCNR (or PA Forestry or formerly Fish and Game (before they were boat) ) would not have put them in like that. They are the reason for the Turtle boxes, but not these structures with nails.

That was one of my very first videos I ever did... if the link doesn't show here, just search for "Brumbaugh Legacy an Abandoned Homestead" here is the link: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rJpdY7Z_sdHHhWw.htmlsi=3NYEV6KJvLa_41mh

Thanks for that!

The bricks had no manufacturing stamps nor were any made with a frog or straw. This means they could have been from anywhere, but based on time period they were most likely from Bricktown or Bricktop (Mount Union or Alpharata/Alexandria). The Huntingdon RR and PRR did NOT interconnect and stood independent of each other (unless there is a document specifying an interchange that I have missed). Raystown Lake does not drop water low enough to expose the things you have seen in this video with the exception of the time of this video and late 2022 in order to complete repairs that were unfinished in the first lake drop. i.e. This is a rare occurrence.

I received confirmation from some of those "enthusiasts" that they placed them there for the Walleye.

Thanks for joining.

I was leaning toward actual "traffic control" signage... that road is not a DCNR access road. It was actually a REAL ROAD :D It was where Weller Road connected with Garner Road and Backbone Road :D I think I am going to do a follow-up video with info I have found on this location... but at the same time I am looking right now to try and hit some other spots around the lake while the water is still down.

RIGHT! Isn't it weird to see it that low??? It is one thing when we talk about Whipple Dam or Greenwood or pretty much any of the other lakes... but Raystown that low is soooo weird. Imagine if they dropped it even LOWER. :O

I need to verify that and jump in the truck to take a run.

It has consumed about 10 hours of my time trying to find what the symbol means/references. Kinda killin me softly.

@@ODDySEEy Dang,, we are a lot alike,, I love solving a problem / puzzle / mystery.. Hate having loose ends.. lol

Normally water is lowered in order to stop ice from expanding into the water flow gates at the top of the spillway. In this case, the only thing I saw was that they intended to execute some "repairs" on something.

Boat launch maintenance

There was already a lake formed by in 1913 by the first Raystown Dam. But yes, the second dam took up much more land on the Western side of the lake when filled.

All I gotta say to your post is...COLD. LOL

Yeah... they really dropped the levels far. It is kinda crazy looking.

It is a really cool lake because it is still absolutely WILD. You have your state park portions and boat launches, but the majority of this lake is just WILD WOODS surrounding a serene lake.

@@ODDySEEy always appreciate the wilds wherever I go!!

yes and no... wasn't for habitat as in "to give them one", turns out it was "to make them have one for fishing purposes".

Is this still common?

Thank you! 🤗

Good ol' Ottsville... right along 611 (sorry, Easton Rd), home to Ow ow cow ice cream... LOL Been in that neighborhood a lot growing up. Use to visit Nockamixon before I found the real woods of PA. I will give you a heads up when I am down there. Probably sometime in the mid to late spring... gotta lot of sites to visit and record around all of lower NEPA.

Brumbaugh Crossing (Just down from Brumbaugh Mansion). Search those terms and you will find the exact location. :D

I have been fishing that hole for about 30 years :) That is why I did the whole 360 from the rock that you can never get to (the really big one in the middle of the run)

The water in this area is usually only about 4-7 feet deep at best.

Johny Stevens said that the actual bass fishermen put them out there for the Bass. Makes sense and I kinda knew what they were... just the whole part of non-ecologically friendly material placed in unsafe manners at unsafe locations was what was catching me off guard.

The town of AITCH was flooded intentionally, yes. All of the houses were picked up and moved up the mountain by the government or bought outright and destroyed with debris removed from area. Those who did not sell for the "theft" price ended up getting even less and were pushed out by imminent domain. All that remains are "some", not all, of the foundations and even they are under a foot of sediment now. :) FUN FACT: The town is named AITCH not Aitch. Because AITCH is an acronym formed by the first letter of the last name of the most prominent land owners in the Woodcock Valley when the town was formed.

Yes. Someone else made a comment that they actually know those whom put them out there to create "fishing" structures (more than fish habitat)... i.e. intentional in order to attract certain fish for personal fishing preferences.

For right now I am a Pennamite doing my home state. As the channel grows the hopes are to start hitting other states.

That's cool.... thank you so much for the reply

I forgot to do an addendum :) I will catch up with this during the week. James Creek Church ;)

Search for the Brumbaugh Mansion ;)

I think there are groups of people that go out and clean up the lake area. As for the parking lot right before that area, it is totally trashed. And this is not actually party cove. I did drive down to party cove and it was really cool to see it BONE DRY... ALL OF IT. But, you cannot easily get to it from the road because it is too steep.

After Marker 14, head due NORTH off the main lake toward the J3 PGC mitigation area. This is the furthest northern point in J3.

Now you know what is under the water :D (sometimes it is good to know... sometimes we would be better off not knowing)

Explain? How do you see it as a fence? (truly curious)

Hm I’m going to have to rewatch and see what I was talking about lol

Oh the stumps with nails. Because the first time I watched it looked like the were fence posts that were almost completely covered with mud tho

@@dbproductions2767 ahh... the nail stumps. I was told by said culprits that "local fishermen put them in as a structure for the walleye to gather". ;)

@@ODDySEEy I was just thinking about you today! Actually checked out your channel when I got home from work hoping for a new vid! When will we get a new one?

I can tell you I am not the only person who has been "mud larking" in the water recession... nothing has popped up on police transmissions or newspaper... YET ;)

@@ODDySEEy have you watched any of the Adventures with Purpose water recovery videos? They recently found a young woman & her child that had been missing 23 years. This was in Russellville AR. I can see that you would enjoy some sonar time!

This should answer that question: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pNN4eaqVs8-3h3k.html

Of course I held onto that coal... it is warming up the house now. ;)

@@ODDySEEy I think we need to know who was the guy that woke up one day and decided, "you know what? I'm gonna see if I can set that black rock on fire." Odd, but he has less to explain than the guy that discovered that getting milk from a cow was a thing.

Wednesday

@@ODDySEEy thank you for replying. We don't live far away was wanted to go check it out. Have a great day

I have not been able to match it up with any Masonic cyphers or characters. But I wouldn't doubt it.

Baughman Ruins

Haven't gotten the answer yet. Was hoping here in the comments.

Annoying uneeded music... you mean like your comment?