What is the best pizza oven, precast or steel, wood or gas?

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3 жыл бұрын

This video is designed to help you choose between a wood fired or gas fired oven and a pre-cast/brick or stainless steel oven. I light up and cook in both and explain the differences and time needed to set up and cook. There is an oven type to suit everyone and I hope this helps you make the right decision before spending on such a long term investment.
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@1Guernelli 2 жыл бұрын

The best side by side explanation of these two types of ovens! Wow I have watched dozens of videos but until yours I still didn't get it! Maybe I am just a bit thick in the head :) Thank you so much

@pizzaovens-fornieri 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks John, I appreciate your comments and I’m glad the video helps.

@Shaetano 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for all your videos, very informative!

@helenazzopardi1713 2 жыл бұрын

you explained it very well, makes a hell of a difference in decision making, wood or gas

@Beul8677 2 жыл бұрын

Very very helpful! Thank you!

@ZeeshanGondal599 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video mate. You are legend !!

@Dmurphy527 3 жыл бұрын

Great job showing the difference between the two ovens. I am leaning toward a dual fuel oven but this was very informative. Cheers

@pizzaovens-fornieri 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, dual fuel is a good choice.

@Delhaven01 Жыл бұрын

Thanks, this was very informative. Loved the call out to Vito Iacopelli

@kumaquattro 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, great video presentation .

@arcturusbbqsausagemaking2435 2 жыл бұрын

Great job!! well done !!

@akabruv7176 3 жыл бұрын

Thank You for the video

@thirstbuster78 3 жыл бұрын

Great review, thank you. Now I know need 2 ovens haha

@adlialomari5640 3 жыл бұрын

Great video thanks

@yinilin2840 Жыл бұрын

Very helpful… well done!

@michaelvella8511 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this informative video

@Beatboy100 3 жыл бұрын

Great video! Looking forward to more in the future.

@neecos.3049 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Roberto, excellent video. What length is that round peel you are using in this video? Thanks

@pizzaovens-fornieri 3 жыл бұрын

It has a 20cm round peel with a 100cm long handle. 120cm overall.

@neecos.3049 3 жыл бұрын

@@pizzaovens-fornieri Thanks Roberto! Keep up the great work! Love all your informative videos!

@vincefava7929 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@blumenthol Жыл бұрын

I like the wood oven because it goes with my routine of walking around in the woods in Upstate NY - now when I hike around the woods I gather apple, oak, hickory for the next pizza.

@pizzaovens-fornieri Жыл бұрын

Yes it’s hard to beat wood fired cooking.

@MrX-zu2qe 2 жыл бұрын

Coal fired ovens are the best of all of them

@virtuousmountainwoman 29 күн бұрын

Thank you.🎉

@robertorodriguez4144 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video, I already decided to get a gas oven. Now I'm trying to decide between the Alfa One or the Alfa Brio, I normally make 4 pizzas every other week but I'm currently using a bakerstone pizza oven box so for that the Alfa One will do but with the brio I could probably do more and switch between gas and wood. What do you think? I'll love to see a comparison between the Alfa One and the Alfa Brio...

@pizzaovens-fornieri 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Roberto, the Alfa One on gas is perfect for pizza, but I would recommend the Brio if you wanted to do some slow cooked meat roasts or other wood fired dishes. They both cook pizza's in 90 seconds and I generally only cook 1 at a time so if it was just pizza, either would be fine in my opinion.

@WME460 Ай бұрын

Very helpful video. Thank you!

@pizzaovens-fornieri Ай бұрын

Thank you.

@ayeecadeteredeyphone 2 жыл бұрын

thanks man

@121dias 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@chuckurso593 6 ай бұрын

I am surprised that you had my thoughts put into action on the Alfa oven. I was wanting to put water in a pot for that steam action. Great move. Now I can plan to get the Alfa oven. I am planning on the Moderno 3 pizza oven dual fuel so if I want to go wood on occasion, it is possible. Thank you for your very precise demonstration! I am now prescribed to your great channel !!!!

@pizzaovens-fornieri 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for your comment. If you are in Australia check out the Napoli Oven Co. Range, they are better in my opinion.

@tonycoz2309 2 жыл бұрын

Grazie!

@CavityCreep1 3 жыл бұрын

Good Video! Greetings from Naples , Florida!

@micro963 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing your video I really enjoyed it👍👍👍what material is your casted wood oven made off?

@pizzaovens-fornieri 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, they are made of refractory cement in Sydney, I’m not sure of the exact mix.

@andrewwardle 2 жыл бұрын

great looking pizzas

@pizzaovens-fornieri 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@philipsmith6424 2 жыл бұрын

I’m so hungry now !

@BenMitro 3 жыл бұрын

Roberto, I am applying for the job of taster...when do I start? :) The comparison between gas and wood ovens was very thorough - thanks.

@pizzaovens-fornieri 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Benny, I appreciate your comments.

@BenMitro 3 жыл бұрын

@@pizzaovens-fornieri You didn't answer my question - when do I start? :)

@pizzaovens-fornieri 3 жыл бұрын

I have a position as visual tastar if your interested.

@Noname-hu2dr 3 жыл бұрын

Se ho ben capito, come è logico aspettarsi, il forno in acciaio ha poca inerzia termica perché è meno isolato, quindi si riscalda e raffredda più velocemente. Dovendo fare con questo 4/8 pizze in successione si deve attendere tra una pizza e l'altra o si va spediti? Di quanti kg consigli la capienza della bombola GPL? 3-5-10kg o più? Ti ringrazio tanto se hai modo di rispondere e complimenti per il pane e la pizza

@pizzaovens-fornieri 3 жыл бұрын

Ciao e grazie. Sì, è meglio mettere la porta mentre prepari la pizza successiva, ci vogliono solo due minuti per andare a terra per fare di nuovo caldo. Suggerisco un cilindro di gas da 9-10 kg, il forno userà 1 kg di gas in 2 ore.

@richardcatania5086 2 жыл бұрын

Ciao Roberto, from Vancouver! When you put the bread in, did you put a tin of water as well?

@pizzaovens-fornieri 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, yes I put a tin of water in as well, it will help with the crust.

@roccosdough Жыл бұрын

Hi Roberto! Another quick question.. Is there a cover to put over gas to do wood on the alfa one ? Just like the brio? If I wanted to do wood on the gas one oven..

@pizzaovens-fornieri Жыл бұрын

Hi Rocco, no gas cover for the one because there is not enough floor space left if you have a wood rack in it as well.

@roccosdough Жыл бұрын

@@pizzaovens-fornieri gotcha ok thanks !!

@rosariacarlostella9105 3 жыл бұрын

Beautiful ovens snd beautiful pizza’s. Very informative. Why does the gas oven have a chimney?

@pizzaovens-fornieri 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. The chimney is there so you dont breathe in the fumes. If oven is installed indoors, the chimney must go to the outside atmosphere.

@charging7 2 жыл бұрын

If there's combustion, there's exhaust, stuff you don't want to be breathing

@RyanDaz1981 2 жыл бұрын

Thoughts on the stainless wood burning FORNO VENETZIA TORINO 200??

@pizzaovens-fornieri 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, I have never seen one in person but it looks like a nice oven. Sorry I can’t confirm anything.

@javierdorrego 6 ай бұрын

By any chance do you the diameter of the wood oven? I guess a smaller one will heat faster, right? I was planning to build a 60 cm internal diameter oven

@pizzaovens-fornieri 6 ай бұрын

Hi my oven is an 80cm internal. Yes smaller will heat up quicker.

@tim0r0h Жыл бұрын

love the comparison - lead me to purchase a stainless steel oven (working, low time, want to use it during the week). Any more videos around new ovens, or using ovens in the pipeline Roberto?

@pizzaovens-fornieri Жыл бұрын

Thank you Tim, yes I will be doing some more in the next few months focusing more on stainless steel ovens, I have been lazy. Thank you for your comment and enjoy.

@tim0r0h Жыл бұрын

@@pizzaovens-fornieri Brilliant news! (I wouldn't call it lazy, life can be pretty demanding!) Will keep an eye out for the new vids!

@tim0r0h Жыл бұрын

also - I note the Alfa Ciao video is down, was intending on showing a mate the benefits of a steel wood oven re: heat up time. (all good if it had to come down!)

@pizzaovens-fornieri Жыл бұрын

Hi Tim, I have had some trouble with Alfa and I’m not going to promote their products anymore. They are a very good product but I’ve had some issues with the company that’s all. Regards Roberto.

@tim0r0h Жыл бұрын

@@pizzaovens-fornieri ahh fair enough. Looking forward to the new videos 👍

@peteratt1739 3 жыл бұрын

👍

@eda.2332 3 жыл бұрын

👍🏼

@lainemelrose2230 2 жыл бұрын

Would love to know what model your precast oven is

@pizzaovens-fornieri 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, it’s a calabrese 800 from The Woodfired Co. made in Sydney Australia.

@michaeloleary678 9 ай бұрын

How do you go using the alfa "indoors" have you got a flue going through roof?

@pizzaovens-fornieri 9 ай бұрын

Hi, if indoors yes you must extend the flue on a wood fired oven. If its a gas fired oven you need to check compliance requirements and some Alfa ovens dont work with extended flues.

@giovannniiii 2 жыл бұрын

thats why the steel oven should have another burner under the stone , to head the oven faster up

@ArfurFoulkesayckee 2 жыл бұрын

Can you use a smoker in the gas oven

@pizzaovens-fornieri Жыл бұрын

Hi Mike, sorry I missed this message, yes you can but you should cover the gas burner when its not in use to stop ash or fats depositing on the gas burner which can block things up.

@louisemahoney3406 Жыл бұрын

I’m a little confused that you say the wood and gas oven take the same amount of time to heat up 🤷🏼‍♀️ if you hadn’t baked bread first in the gas oven at a low temp, then the pizzas would have been ready to cook hours earlier. (I have a steel/gas oven that reaches floor temp of 400c within 15/20 mins) Perhaps I misunderstood what you meant.

@pizzaovens-fornieri Жыл бұрын

Hi Louise. Yes you are correct in saying the Alfa oven would have heated up quicker if I didn't cook the bread first and this oven usually takes about 30-40 minutes to get a floor temperature of 400C. Generally speaking, I have found that ovens heat up in around the same amount of time, whether I am using gas or wood as the fuel. The time taken to reach 400C on a floor will depend on the type and size of the oven.

@adelcorona7393 3 жыл бұрын

I'm about to build my own Stainless steel gas oven

@heywazz1 2 ай бұрын

Any chance we can get your dough recipe? The pizza base and crust are exactly how I like it.

@pizzaovens-fornieri 2 ай бұрын

Hi, this is a poolish recipe and is best done with a mixer. Here is the video link and the recipe is bellow. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i5Oaf5Bh28qpfps.htmlsi=9Btu0TF4ptjGsUot Recipe Makes 4 x 280g dough balls: Stage 1 Poolish (10 mins) 425g cold tap water, 425g 00 Flour, 2.5kg fresh yeast or 1.5g dry instant yeast. Mix all together and refrigerate min 12hrs to max 24 hrs. Stage 2 Dough (40 minutes) Put Poolish in Mixing Bowl, Add 240g 00 Flour little by little and mix at low speed for 10 minutes, Increase speed and add 20g sea salt little by little, then add 75g cold tap water little by little, then add 15g extra virgin olive oil little by little and continue mixing at a higher speed until the dough is 24Celsius. Move onto bench, fold a few times then put it in a bowl covered for 30 minutes on the bench and then move it into the fridge for min 4hrs to maximum 24 hrs in fridge (I prefer 12 hrs). Stage 3 Dough Balls. Make 4 x 280g or 5 x 240g dough balls, put in a box covered for a min 4 hrs to 8 hrs if a cold day. You can put the balls in the fridge for up to 24 hrs as well and take out 2 hrs before use.

@heywazz1 2 ай бұрын

@@pizzaovens-fornieri You're a legend, thank you for sharing this. I love you channel and your videos.

@toucheatoutencuisine 2 жыл бұрын

Hello, To begin with, know that I am French-speaking. My English being relatively limited, I use Google Translations. So please excuse me for any mistakes this will produce. I hope it will still be sufficiently understandable. If I understood correctly what you explain in your video, it would be possible to obtain the taste of cooking with wood in a gas oven by simply putting a log in the gas oven. If that's it, I imagine that instead of the log, we could put sawdust and at the same time easily vary the flavor by varying the types of sawdust. Let me explain the reason for my question. Currently, I am looking for an oven to cook pizzas but also breads and food in general. I want a metal oven and not brick because I want an oven so the weight is not completely excessive. If for the pizza, the fact of cooking with wood does not bring anything from the point of view of flavors, the cooking being too fast, it is not the same for breads or dishes with long cooking (stews for example) . So I was considering buying a hybrid oven. But if it is possible to solve the problem by putting wood or sawdust in a gas oven, that greatly simplifies my search. In any case, thank you very much for your videos which are really very instructive. Best regards

@pizzaovens-fornieri 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@toucheatoutencuisine 2 жыл бұрын

@@pizzaovens-fornieri And can you confirm that I understood correctly and that we could give the taste of smoke in a gas oven with sawdust?

@pizzaovens-fornieri 2 жыл бұрын

@@toucheatoutencuisine I have never tried this so I don't know. Keep in mind that smoke is hot and hot air rises so the smoke will never be near the floor of the oven, it is always higher than the floor because fresh cold air comes into the oven from the floor level which pushes the smoke up off the floor.

@roccosdough 5 күн бұрын

I know you stopped promoting the Alfa Ovens, wonder what you think of the Alfa 4 Pizze if by chance you had an opportunity to test it?

@pizzaovens-fornieri 4 күн бұрын

Hi Rocco, all Alfa ovens perform the same because they have the same design and floor. The floor struggles to recover if you want to use it commercially and I believe the shell is all galvanised steel not stainless steel so the could rust, check underneath the oven to confirm this. I recommend the Napoli ovens in Australia now because the floor design is excellent for heat retention and performance. I believe these are very similar to the “Forno Bello” range in the USA except our Napoli ovens have more floor insulation. I hope this helps.

@roccosdough Күн бұрын

@@pizzaovens-fornieri Hi Roberto, excellent feedback, thank you and will do !

@blackandgold676 2 жыл бұрын

For a while there, I thought I'd dropped into a bread baking show...

@davidrevert8486 8 ай бұрын

Bonjour, j'ai un four à pizza alpha au bout de la 3 fois,la peinture à cloque sur le dessus, qualité minable malgré l'achat d'une housse à 110€.

@pizzaovens-fornieri 8 ай бұрын

Sorry I don’t sell the Alfa ovens anymore. You should ask them to replace the parts, it has 2 yrs warranty.

@baburc8630 2 жыл бұрын

bro can you give me idea to built

@pizzaovens-fornieri 2 жыл бұрын

Hello, please look at my Youube channel, there is a how to build video there. I hope that helps.

@1imanni1 2 жыл бұрын

Like Vito says - "Wood is wood"

@virtuousmountainwoman 29 күн бұрын

You haven’t cooked on the wood yet, is it because it’s not hot enough yet?

@pizzaovens-fornieri 29 күн бұрын

Hello, yes I cook on wood at the end of the video.

@philipbarca3743 2 жыл бұрын

Philip Barca

@jdb9388 3 жыл бұрын

shut up and take my money "i don't careee i love it"

@Zedinator593 Жыл бұрын

The best pizza ovens are made from titanium

@coreym5072 3 жыл бұрын

If you use gas is it considered wood fired oven haha. Wood is the only way to go

@rainerrain9689 Жыл бұрын

What a crock of crap , the precast is going to take longer to heat up because it's SO MUCH BIGGER THAN YOUR STEEL OVEN . You didn't really want to help people choose ,you want people to buy your steel oven because it's easier for you to build ,and it's a bigger profit margin compared to the precast version. Plus wood ovens ALWAYS MAKE BETTER FOOD, so they aren't the same, and your products ARE WAY OVER PRICE !

@pizzaovens-fornieri Жыл бұрын

I didn’t think i favoured one over the other, I personally use both depending on the occasion but I appreciate your comments.

@1230mkelly Жыл бұрын

Facts! Ever true Napoleon pizza 🍕 is cooked over an authentic wood 🪵🪓 brick 🧱 oven that will last four generations vs the stainless steel that you will have to service and repurchase again within 5-10 years. P.S. My local Pit BBQ joint has been grilling BBQ on the "same" wood brick and motor grill since they first opened 90 years ago!

@pizzaovens-fornieri Жыл бұрын

That’s a good point, thanks for your comment.