In some Catholic circles there is the idea that is ok to *hope* that all might be saved (but not ok to declare it definitely) . This idea comes from Origen. I’m Catholic and was taught growing up that it’s possible for those of other faiths, who don’t know of Christ through no fault of their own, to be saved. Ultimately who’s saved and who’s not is up to God.

As a catholic I really have to thank you for this channel, your calm and clear explanation of ideas allows me to easily Google protestant buzz words. Often when I talk with protestants they would throw out so many of these it would be hard to fully grasp. Your channel has helped. So thanks my man

Well, I'm glad that there's an option for people who think that the UU has gone too far off from Christianity. I'd still favor a group that was stronger on trinitarianism, but at least it's an improvement over the UU's post-Christian stance.

As always, a well-presented, informative presentation. So much packed into so few minutes.

This video has solved many troubles ive had in my faith. I believe our loving god, will forgive us, dispite our faith as long as we live good, kind, loving lives.

Since I posted my first comment, on this video, I've attended a few services of their online only congregation. I haven't decided if I'll join them, but I'm liking what I see, thus far! Update: I've put in a request to potentially join the congregation. 🙂

Very good video! Thanks for all the great theological content.

Another interesting and informative video. Thanks!

“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’” (Matthew 7:21-23).

Thank you, Joshua. 🌹🌹🌹

Glad to know that this denomination is around. About 15 years ago, I was visiting UU churches. I took the intro class at the one closest to me. A boy around 16 was interested in joining and brought his parents with. His father mentioned God and this young couple went ballistic and said things like "only stupid people believe in a magic man in the sky" or something along those lines. I didn't stick around too much longer. It's a shame. They were nice people and it was a nice church. But yeah, evangelical atheism is not something I wanted in my life.

As a long time Christian Universalist I appreciate this video greatly. Thanks for all your videos actually, I've been a denominational nerd since about 1980 and could watch these all day. Peace

CUA sounds interesting and better than the UU, but I can't get behind them entirely as I am a Trinitarian, a believer in original sin, and much more morally conservative. I personally came to believe in Christian Universalism due to a number of arguments by which I could not refute, none of which stem from the usual statement of "Well a just God wouldn't allow anyone to suffer eternally." No see, I very much believe we are all deserving of eternal punishment when compared to an infinitely perfect and good God. No see, what compelled me to accept the idea of Universal Salvation was the following reasons: 1.) If all of humanity fell into sin due to the original sin of Adam and must suffer those consequences thus so, then it makes sense that all would be redeemed through the new Adam which is Christ. Just as we had no choice in being born into a fallen state, it also would make sense we have no choice in our ultimate redemption and perfection. 2.) If Christ came to die for all the world, then if even one soul is ultimately lost, Christ has come up short. Being the second member of the perfect Triune God, he cannot fail in anyway and must ultimately have the victory over every heart and every soul. Meaning in the end his sacrifice and resurrection must redeem all of humanity. Otherwise Christ would not be perfect. 3.) To go along with point 2, it is a much more profound statement of God claiming victory over the hearts of even his most stubborn of enemies. The idea of Christ the conquerer in the end conquering every human heart is a testament to his unlimited majesty and power over creation. 4.) Universal Salvation does not mean escape from punishment or a lack of justice. Jesus' sacrifice on the cross reconciles us with God the Father, and let me be clear, ONLY Jesus' sacrifice would sufficient to reconcile us to the Father. Ordinarily we would be deserving of eternal punishment for sinning against an eternal and infinite God, as such only the sacrifice of God himself in Jesus would suffice to pay that debt, and as stated in point one, it is through Jesus that all the world will ultimately be reconciled to the Father. But we must still pay for our individual sins which must carry some level of punishment. As such I believe that Hell will be more akin to purgatory. A place where we suffer just and divine punishment for our sins, the length of which may be short or may be beyond comprehension in length and through this refiners crucible we will be made perfect. Through this suffering we will not only be cleansed of our sins, but we shall be reconciled to all we have harmed in this life. Only then will we all be fit to enter the glorious Kingdom of God. 5.) Since God is perfect, he would be perfectly efficient. I don't see the efficiency of keeping souls in eternal torment. I believe Benjamin Franklin said something along the lines of "In God's creation I see that not one drop of water is wasted, so too how much more valuable is the soul than a drop of water, that it would not be wasted either." That's not word for word, but that is the general meaning of his quote. I tend to agree with Franklin that not one soul should go to waste in fire forever, since God has to be perfectly efficient. 6.) When reading the Ancient Greek that the New Testament was originally written in, the Greek word "Aeon" often is translated as "Eternity" When in truth it is more accurate to say "Age". Meaning punishment will last an "Age" not an "Eternity" and we should always try to follow the original intent of the original language the Old Testament (Ancient Hebrew) and New Testament (Ancient Greek) were written in. 7.) Continuing from point 4, the reason one should accept Christ and follow him in this life regardless of everyone being saved in the end is number 1, it is simply good and right to do so. Number 2, by living as Christ commands we may lessen our punishment in the refiners crucible. But we should not do what is right either to avoid punishment or to seek the rewards of Heaven, but rather simply because it is the right thing to do and should be done out of love for God and for our fellow humans. For those who do not learn to follow Christ in this life, they will learn in the refiners crucible. In other words you can become a Christian and child of God the easy or the hard way, but in the end Christ will conquer your heart and the victory over all creation will be his. No one, no soul, no entity will escape being under his rule and submission and that is a far more powerful and beautiful message than simply eternal torment for some and eternal life for others. For in the end it makes God ruler of all fully and completely. However, though I have adopted the idea of Christian Universalism, my beliefs stem more from the teachings of early church fathers such as Origen of Alexandria, rather than groups such as the UU or the CUA, the former of which is barely recognizable as Christianity in any shape or form and has abandon the moral teachings of the faith in favor of fitting in with the world. The latter of which is only somewhat better. This is why I have viewed myself as more of Christian Mystic in the same vein as the early Eastern Orthodox Church Fathers than a UU or CUA.

thanks for this one! I want to check into it.

This was really interesting. Think it sums up my beliefs quite well!

I see that you're sowing seeds. Some will grow. ☺️

Starting in the old testament in Genesis and continuing until today, people have tried to create a God in their own image and it has never worked out well for them. I really do pray that God would remove the blinders from their eyes.

Thanks for the unbiased coverage of our association. If folks here are interested, our congregation meets online and is officially associated with the CUA. The CUA is an umbrella group, and its members come from many different backgrounds. The founders were a mix of folks: UUs, Baptists, Methodists, Pentecostals, Evangelicals, etc. Many of the best recent books on universal salvation are by Evangelicals, in fact. They grapple very seriously with the question of universalism from an Evangelical worldview.

Excellent depiction . Keep it up

Please make video about Old Catholics (Union of Utrecht).

Great video bro

Is that sweater you're wearing 100% wool? If so, where'd you get it? I'm looking for something like that.

As a UU, I would venture to say that the congregation count is not an ideal measure of the number of folks/congregations which have members who hold these beliefs. UU churches are less likely to express such an affiliation as their members hold such a diversity of views (as you well acknowledge). That said, if one were to count every UU church which contained at least a single member who held concordant beliefs with the CUA as an affiliate thereof, I feel you would be hard pressed to find a single UU congregation that could not be listed.

I’m a hopeful Universalist, I don’t believe he’ll is eternal, but rather a state of spiritual death that comes from being separated from God. If Christ can raise the dead then he’ll doesn’t have to be eternal. I hope in my heart that in the end, all mankind will be reconciled to a right standing and relationship with their creator. Although this hope is also dependant on the will of those who have rejected God and if it is possible for them to have a change of heart in the afterlife.

In a sense, I'm a Christian with Salvation-agnostic views on non Christians. We cannot really know who will be saved in the End, but Jesus Christ is the best option so far.

Here’s the thing. After researching the original Greek and Hebrew of the Bible, I have come to agree that the Bible does more so suggest universal salvation in the end and a temporary Hell. So on the doctrine of Universal salvation itself I tend to find myself agreeing not because of anything people do but because in the end if God is perfect then he must ultimately save all souls since only the salvation of all would be considered a full and total victory of the Cross. In other words God will conquer the human soul of itself. However my issue with the universalist churches is that they will use the original Greek and Hebrew text to justify their stance on salvation yet will ignore it when it comes to moral teachings. To me this is hypocritical. You can’t just pick and choose what you want from the Bible. Even if all will be saved in the end, You should still fight the cultural and moral battles and call out people for being wrong both to spare them divine punishment (even if it is finite) and simply because it is the right thing to do. So while I can accept the doctrine of universal salvation I cannot associate myself with any universalist church due to their laxed stance on Biblical morality and humanists leanings.

1 Timothy 4:10 ESV “For to this end we toil and strive, because we have our hope set on the living God, who is the Savior of all people, especially of those who believe ”

Love it!

St Anthanasius in the 4th in "On the Incarnation" talks about the original sin. And he was not inventing anything at that time.

good information

fascinating!

"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it."

This sounds like another group that I could potentially join, if I were living in America!

I love the thumbnail!

I really appreciate the idea that God also inspires and works through non-Christians and that non-Christians will also have a chance to be saved. However, I'm wary of the idea that universalism seems to posit that there's no penalty for sin. This seems to me like a theological license to do whatever you want, even if it's harmful to one's self or others, without fear of repercussion.

Have you considered unbuttoning your top button? You would look more relaxed. Just sayin

We live by faith. We don’t empirically know what comes next.

Have you done a video on Unitarianism? It’s so sad that it doesn’t exist anymore in the US, after it’s tremendously unfortunate merger with the Universalist church.

The universalist position maximizes the meaningfulness of Jesus' sacrifice, saying that Jesus died for everyone, not just those who believed. Indeed, it's those who reject universalism that trivialize the crucifixion. If we agree God is sovereign over all, which you must if you believe God is omnipotent and omniscient, then all that He wills will be done. And what does he will? 1 Timothy 2 tells us that God wants every person saved and everyone made aware of the Truth of the cross. Isn't that already sufficient to show that, even if we don't know the exact mechanics how, God's ultimate desire is to bring us His truth and His light, and, as God is sovereign in all ways, Thy will be done? After all, as it says in Psalm 135:6 (KJV), "Whatsoever the Lord pleased, that did he in heaven, and in earth, in the seas, and all deep places." And what does the Lord please? Paul tells us in 1 Timothy 2:4 (KJV): "For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth." Peter affirms this in 2 Peter 3:9 (KJV), writing: "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance." The Prophet Ezekiel showed the unchanging nature of God on the issue, propheting that "Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked, declares the Lord God, and not rather that he should turn from his way and live?" in Ezekiel 18:23 (KJV). In fact, the Lord our God Himself cried out in sadness over His desire for all to know the Grace of God in Matthew 23:37 (KJV), shouting: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!" Proverbs 16:4 (KJV) reads: "The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil." Everything has been made according to a plan, by the Divine Planner, and we all fit within that puzzle. Those who profess an eternal hell believe God "made all things for himself" and would DELIBERATELY leave out the nonbelievers? The very same God who, as St. Paul wrote in 1 Timothy 2:4 (KJV), "Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth"? Those who reject universalism need to decide whether they believe God not to be sovereign, which is easily the most untenable position in all of theology, or that God, for some reason (perhaps a measure of cruelty outside of His loving nature?), would neglect HIS VERY OWN DESIRES to save every last man. Theologians keep quibbling with the concept of limited atonement, and continue to reject the obvious, grace-filled, beautiful reality of the situation directly in front of their face. Not just reject it, but spit on it as heresy. Feel free to keep squabbling over the obvious contradiction that is limited atonement with a sovereign God who wills all to be saved. I'll be enjoying a life of spreading the good news: that the Lord our God, Jesus Christ, the messiah, King of Kings, has gifted us with His grace; as Paul notes in 2 Corinthians 5:15 (KJV), "And he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again."

I had hoped that such a group existed-- the views they expressed in these quotes are so similar to where I've ended up in my faith in many ways that it's almost scary. Looking into getting involved-- thank you for the great information, as always! Love your videos.

Please do a video on Watchman Nee & the Local church movement/ Chinese House Church movement

You should do Unitarian Universalism too!

Do a video comparing Eastern Christianity and Western Christianity.

0:42 Kinda missed an opportunity to call themselves the W's...

In Orthodoxy there is a tradition among the Fathers and many saints of praying for the salvation of all. But that is quite different from actually believing that such will come to pass. Alas, the belief (apokatastasis) was condemned as heresy by the Fifth Oecumnical Council in AD 553.

Oh wow! This is a church I could actually get behind!

What Richard Rohr says is correct about Augustine of Hippo and the doctrine of original sin, but he deceives by insinuating that the very notion of original sin was derived in the 5th century when, in fact, it was the debate on the clarification of original sin that came into focus. If you refer to yourselves as Christians then you must accept that Jesus died on the cross for the sins of mankind and was resurrected. Even though the Jewish people don't believe in original sin, they still believe in the Torah and the story of Adam and Eve. The Jewish people believe that we are not perfect and humans are fallible and that Jewish scriptures are a product of fallible human minds. I also want to add that the concept that we can all be related to Adam and Eve isn't so far-fetched. Scientists in the Russian Academy of Sciences estimated Genghis Khan has 16 million male descendants living in Central Asia in 2003. About 1 in 200 people today are estimated to be descendants of Genghis Khan. Psalm 51:5, "I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me". 6th century B.C. Romans 5:12 "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned." Added to the Bible in the 4th century. Jesus said "I am the way, the truth and the life. The only way to God is through me". John 14:6 That quote alone goes against the very foundation of UU/CUA church. "If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us." John 1:8-10 Added in 1st century A.D. The Eastern Orthodox and Byzantine Rite Eastern Catholic Churches' version of original sin is the view that sin originates with the Devil, "for the devil sins from the beginning (1 John iii. 8)" Ezekiel 18:4 "Behold, all souls are mine; the soul of the father as well as the soul of the son is mine: the soul who sins shall die." Isaiah 59:2 "but your iniquities have made a separation between you and your God, and your sins have hidden his face from you so that he does not hear." Job 15:14 "What is man, that he can be pure? Or he who is born of a woman, that he can be righteous?"

As Jesus said - everyone will be salted (ie preserved) by fire. For those unprepared for that purgation it will take long to go through it, and the experience will be painful, thats 'hell'.

Orthodoxy also has a leaning towards universalism. See David Bentley Hart’s book on the topic. Kudos for fairly representing a position that is very different from your own. You’re a class act. As a comment on the liberal tendency to present a non-messianic figure, this is not a position with historical support. A simply prophetic Jesus is a modern creation. For the ancients Jesus was either messiah or false. Note that I am not precluding adoption is here which was an option, but that position still entailed a supernatural dimension.

6:30 - That I can see

I'm a Universalist, which basically means I don't think hell is eternal. It's not considered a heretical belief, and even the Catholic Church is open to the idea of universal salvation. But when it comes to accepting homosexuality and denying the Trinity, those ideas definitely stray from traditional Christian teachings.

Richard Rohr is actually a Catholic priest. As I commented in Joshua's previous video about the Baptist church that baptized an infant, "I am Catholic, and we have the same phenomenon at work: people (e.g. politicians) wearing the label without personally embracing some of our core teachings." I probably should have included "clergy" along with politicians.

Universalism is one of those teachings I can never understand. So many CLEAR, TRANSPARENT passages about hell. So many warnings about being cast into darkness. Thrown into lake of fire. Cut of from the branch. Being rejected by the returning King. Being thrown away from the feast. And so on, and so forth. I simply can not understand how, or why, would anybody want to call themselves Christians, if they are not willing to take seriously things Jesus repeated and taught this clearly and frequently, so many, many times throughout the Scripture. I understand that there are some major differences between Christians. But they always have to do with theological mechanics of how exactly are spiritual things working. What does it exactly mean that "this" is the body of Christ? What does is exactly mean that "those Jesus received, he will never lose"? What does it mean to be "saved by baptism"? Tricky things, all around, even though they are concerning fundamental doctrines of Christianity. But THIS? That's not a vague passage right there folks. That's not even a handful of vague passages. That's half the Bible you're discarding if you think there is no damnation for enemies of God. Since the fall in Genesis, all the way to the lake of fire in Revelation, the whole Bible is all about that. I just don't get it. I understand the DESIRE people have for the Bible to teach this. But it just doesn't. And it couldn't NOT teach it any clearer, I don't even know how it could.

There is the view that God loses most of mankind in a "hell" (The Parables of Jesus and prophecies in the Bible intrepreted literally, thus not entirely correctly so) for all the ages/aeons without hope, help or healing. that God, although all knowing and all mighty, will either fail in his plan to draw all mankind back unto Himself through Yahushua (Jesus), or that His plan of salvation is depentant on our side to make the right choice - thus the doctrine of free will - declaring that man's will would be stronger and more important than God's will. Then there is the view that God's victory and parentship is supreme, universal and encompass all things. That God will win all mankind from sin and "Hell"/"The grave"/"the State of death" - The parables of Yahushua and the prophecies in the Bible is in interpretation upon the foundation that God will repay us according to our deeds that yes there is punishment and concequence of sin without repentance. But God does not cast of forever nor does he burn up our bodies and souls in a literal hell-furnace like unto dante's inferno - rather punishment serves to correct us of our wrongs and make us repent to YAHUSHUA) That God's will always wins - thus we cannot do ANYTHING without Him approving according to the plan of His will. Depenting on your own understanding of the Bible - one or another of the above two views on the Gospel will make more sence unto you and both views can present arguments for their case. But to know which side has the arguments that truly are Bible-based and from above, and to know just how to read and interpret the Bible correctly - we need to know and realize foundational truths that cannot be denied by either views; such as; GOD IS HOLY - meaning God is perfect in His ways (anything unholy is opposite of His Set-apart character) GOD IS ALL-MIGHTY AND ALL-KNOWING - Meaning God's wisdom, power and holy presence is infinite/not limited and many other truths. Then we have this foundational truth; GOD IS LOVE. God reveal Himself not only as loving - although he indeed is loving - but He revealed himself as LOVE ITSELF. Now, not all "love" that is in existence is of God. For example; to love evil (sin) is definetly not of God, since it goes against the "GOD IS HOLY" foundational truth. But the Bible gives a good Sermon on the aspects/attributes of love: 4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. 8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears. 11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. 12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known. 13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love." - 1 Corinthians 13:4-13 So reading the above attributes of God's love, His love for all mankind, a love that always protects always trusts and always perseveres/endures and never fails. I dearly hope you realize and embrace - in the path of being a follower of Yahushua - the wisdom that all the attributes of God's holy character is best presented in the Biblical view of #apokatastasis (restoration of all things), and the belief that all things are given, all will be drawn and will come to and embrace Yahushua For From Him as genesis and through Him as The Way and unto Him as the Revelation of Ending are all things. To him be the glory forever. Amen.

Thanks for this video! I'm a Conditionalist but would love for Christian Universalism (CU) to be correct, although I don't see that in the Bible. The articles I've read and videos I've watched on CU haven't mentioned any of the heretical beliefs of this organization. I'm wondering if they represent all of the CU community? I've read/watched Gregory MacDonald and David Bentley Hart (not everything of course) and didn't see these heretical beliefs in their writings. Must one believe all the nonsense that the CUA spitting out to be a CU?

CUA: you're totally awesome just the way you are. And everything wrong about you will be automatically sorted out. Wanna come to our church and learn about Jesus? Average person: why?

Mark 9:48. Jesus speaking : “…47And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into hell, 48where ‘their worm never dies, and the fire is never quenched.’ 49For everyone will be salted with fire.…”.

I wonder why the CUA uses the cross in their logo?

Do you see the Bible as God's holy word or just a good information book with ideas worth thinking about?

What must I do to be saved?

It's very interesting to watch this as a UU bc I definitely see the roots with the focus on truth from many sources.

Dang. Thought this might be Evangelical Universalism, but it's liberal universalism still. Good to know.

God created a hell where people will burn and suffer forever because he loves us.

Scripture says that man is made in the image of God, that is with these characteristics which are eternal i.e life, free will, hope, faith, love. If this is true, has God made a heart of man in his image that will not love? Jesus, through whom all exist, who is there in the beginning and hovered over the deep, speaking into form with his command, who changed water into wine, and who walked upon the sea and calmed it with his words, does he not move the hearts of kings like rivers? The great command is to love God and neighbor, because this is what will be fulfilled, the answer to Jesus's prayer that we be one, one in whom and to whom all men are drawn, repenting by the goodness of God, as if salted with tongues of fire of a consummate Lord, renewing the spirit of the mind and enlightening the heart, and buy the holy Spirit every tongue praising that Jesus is Lord. So it can be possibly understood in scripture that it is not God's will that men perish, nor is it his delight, but it is His will that all come to know him, just as the Lord gave us to pray, "Thy will be done". God willing, all men will be saved, willingly, according to how the heart is made.

I would think If God is the one judge of all humanity, it matters little what somebody chooses to call themselves. We put too much emphasis on these pointless labels. It's still possible that more than one " Heaven " exists. Maybe more than just one eternal judge of humanity. It's like looking at a painting without knowing the artist. It could be more than one. Such is with what happens after death. There is no proven way to be certain which collection of religious tales are actually true.

Luk 13:23 Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them,Luk 13:24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.Luk 13:25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:Luk 13:26 Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.Luk 13:27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.Luk 13:28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out. 2Co 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 2Co 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 2Co 11:15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. Universalism is the biggest lie manufactured by the Devil!God gives people a clear choice to accept the offer of salvation or face annihilation! These verses mean that there will be very serious consequences, that's if people don't take the offer of salvation! V Rev 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.Rev 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.Rev 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. Mar 8:34 And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.Mar 8:35 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it. Mar 8:36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?Mar 8:37 Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?Mar 8:38 Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels. 1Th 5:1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.1Th 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 1Th 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. 1Th 5:4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. 1Th 5:5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. 1Th 5:6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.1Th 5:7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.1Th 5:8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation. Heb 12:25 See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:Heb 12:26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.Heb 12:27 And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.Heb 12:28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:Heb 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire. 1Pe 4:14 If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified. 1Pe 4:15 But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men's matters. 1Pe 4:16 Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf. 1Pe 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?1Pe 4:18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?1Pe 4:19 Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator. 2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.2Pe 3:11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 2Pe 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 2Pe 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. 2Pe 3:14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. Rom 2:5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;Rom 2:6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:Rom 2:7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:Rom 2:8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, Rom 2:9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;Rom 2:10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: Rom 2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God. Rom 2:12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;Rom 2:13 For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

Judaism?

How you’re able to read all that with a straight face is impressive

There is no way that eternal conscious torment is true... even if God does exist. BTW, IF I were to ever identity as a Christian, it certainly would be a Christian Universalist! In fact, I wouldn't be the slightest bit offended if one were to label me that. Because for a religion, it is the most beautiful one! ;)

Ugh. Ten churches listed and one is also found in the CBF. 😢

I will never understand this mindset of just taking scripture of whatever religion suits you, only believing the parts that suit you and adding on whatever you like. Sounds more like believing yourself rather than believing in God

A Universal Christian Church has existed for nearly 2000 years. It's called Roman Catholicism. Ultimately, it is about having lived the life that Jesus prescribed his followers to live. Love God. Be of service to your fellow man. It really is as simple as that. The human tendency to over complicate things, has led to some really vulgar versions of Christianity. 'Once saved, always saved", "saved by faith alone" and "prosperity gospel" immediately come to mind. There are many others. There are many Jesus-like people out there who are non believers. We hope for their salvation, but that is up to God.

ive been to Southern Baptists churches my whole life but subconscly drawn to this belief system... s... in a way there was and maybe still is conflict in me. especily now as i am seeing more fundamently and, )im gonna say it) downright hatefull donimonations under the guise of "baptists" seem to sprout up...

it doesnt matter what we believe IT MATTERS WHAT GOD SAID

Good resource to understand orthodox Christian Universalism. Saint Gregory of Nyssa commentary on 1 Corinthians 15:28. Modern resource David Bentley Heart, Eastern Orthodox scholar. His book “that all shall be saved. Ytube channel “the total victory of Christ”.

that's scary.

Father Richard Rohr's position is heterodox. His teaching of a so-called Cosmic Christ is a serious distortion of trinitarian doctrine. He also teaches perennialism, and describes God in panentheistic terms, which is diametrically opposed to the Church's doctrinal understanding of God. This means he believes God is in all things and all things are in God. EG. "The universe is the body of God".

I'm Hopefully Universalist of a EvangeliCatholic sort & I would be loathed by them. This sounds like UU with a Jesus varnish.

Universalists tend to be either pantheists or panentheists and don't see a clear division between the creator and the created.They can't really affirm that Jesus is God as everything is God!

Though this video is mainly about this specific association, it does not explain the universalist position very well. It can range from all religions lead to heaven to the belief that hell is temporary, and that all sinful souls will eventually be purified and made right before God in repentance and acceptance of Jesus as Lord.

People need to get back to the BIBLE. JESUS is the WORD OF GOD! Woe to him who ads to or takes away from the BIBLE!

I really wanted to be a (theologically, not necessarily a church member) Christian Universalist. But it's just not compatible with the Bible. And it sounds like they're just replaying the UU story. "Christians, but without hell" -> "Some humanism and non-Christian belief is ok" -> "Why bother with Jesus at all?" Plus a big dose of new age "We're just superior to all those old fashioned people who only care about what Jesus actually taught" All people have the right to practice their religion, but, like Paul, I'm forced to ask, are you really even believers? Why not just be atheists, new agers or cultural-only Christians?

Do they have the #ScoobySnack of Holy Communion?! 🤣

Acts 10:34! *mic drop*

Hey do JWs

CUA is everything but biblical. A true mishmash of old heresies.

Not teaching a child that their sin leads them to Hell is sending your child to Hell. That is real child abuse. I am willing and able to prove the doctrine of eternal Hell to all Universalists. Hell is real, Hell is forever, only those who turn from their sin to obey Christ will be forgiven, and escape the Lake of Fire.

They just want to deny Christ and steer people away from God. 2 Peter 2: 1 "But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction."

Apokatastasis! I Timothy 4:10 All means All

It must have been really hard to keep a straight face while filming this.

Why call yourself a christian if you don't even believe in Christ?

Universalism might me the most anti-christian thing ever. Jesus himself said "I am the way, nobody comes to the father apart from me"

One of the main attractions of Christianity for many is that you are a member of an exclusive club and everyone else gets tortured for eternity. So whilst universalism is a positive force it isn’t likely to become mainstream.

I am not a universalist, I think hell is real. Nevertheless, there is some truth to what is said at 5:32. I can't imagine that a righteous God would send someone like Gandhi to hell for not believing in Jesus. There must be some kind of special grace non-Christians are able to get under certain circumstances. On the other hand, believing that everyone gets into heaven also seems foolish - a righteous God wouldn't allow Hitler in.

I am the way, the truth and the life - some guy they never heard of

Baptist ministers usually enjoy hating on and putting down other denominations. Not this Baptist.

Sounds like liberal nonsense but ok. Can you do United Pentecostals or compare Oneness groups in general sometime please?

The is why you can't have the Bible without tradition. Anyone can read their heresy into the text in order to support muh feelings.

$10 says this "denomination" will cease to exist in 15-20 years.

For me it's crazy how hypoctitical these people are. The Bible is super clear that you either follow god or satan, yet these people try to do both