I had the idea to make Minecraft videos with a Christian basis and I am glad that you are doing this! Love it!

Evil being a deprivation of good solves the problem of evil to me.

A man who rejects God eternally could be punished eternally without contradiction. But if a man rejects God in life, then through the torment of Hell comes to understand his errors, would God continue to punish him for all eternity? I don’t see how Jesus could allow one of his disciples to be eternally damned. This is how the tv show The Good Place “solves” Universalism, by punishing sinners up until they’ve renounced their sins.

This is not what I was expecting from a Minecraft video but as a fellow believer I am quite surprised and enjoyed it greatly

Although I would consider myself a "Very confident hopeful-Universalist" and I don't really know how to respond to that claim of the double-standards of how eternal or everlasting are translated, but this was still a great video where you brought up many great points!

Excellent video my friend! just a note - the music does get a tad loud towards the end, becomes slightly trickier to hear ya.

Have you read "That All Shall Be Saved" by David Bentley Hart? I'm not in lockstep with his conclusions (if he even makes any in this book), but his approach was intuitive for me. I'll merge a summary of it with my position like this: If indeed, at the point of an unsaved person's physical death on Earth, they are immediately sent to everlasting and immense torture, with no possibility of the torture being satisfied, warranted by the person's sin on Earth (committed with un-eternal and incomplete rational knowledge of the consequence), and no possibility for knowing Christ such as to meet the same conditions for salvation as there are on Earth.... then we occupy a universe with the most evil, unjust, and terrifying Creator imaginable. If indeed that is an evil and terrifying reality, then the perfectly good God that does exist knows that better than anyone -- He COULD NOT operate that way. It all comes back to God's nature. Whatever is the most perfectly just and most perfectly merciful outcome will occur. The doctrine of eternal torment is the most often cited as the reason for leaving when I talk to former Christians. We must understand that most people think less doctrinally and very relationally. The only way to frame eternal torment as relationally beneficial is if most humans around you are raping and pillaging your women and children (which, hey, wouldn't have been too far off in pagan Africa and Europe). That is not the case -- there is no longer a way to frame it as relationally beneficial. People will, fairly, feel abused and eventually leave. The only way to prevent that if you believe in eternal torment is to exceed it with unfathomable mercy. I would rather you believe that God is perfectly merciful and just and be wrong about the afterlife, than be "right" about the afterlife and believe that God is perfectly evil and terrifying. Besides, that first paragraph inserts a lot of assumptions that are not in Scripture. Is physical Earthly death the cutoff for our chance at salvation? What if conditions for it are met afterward? Didn't Christ propitiate for the sins of the whole world anyway? (1 John 2:2 is a verse traditionalists need serious contention with) Is punishment purely retributive, or ultimately therapeutic? It's a Western assumption to say it must be purely retributive. That said, I question whether anyone actually believes in eternal torment as I've framed it. I mean "believe" in the strongest, and therefore most plain, sense possible -- taking it to its logical conclusion of constant anxiety and zealotry because each wasted second amounts to infinite torture for someone else. I don't see that in Acts, so I'm inclined to think the Apostles believed in something different -- some different framing, maybe straight up apokatastasis, I don't know. I contend that the bare minimum Christians are bound to is hope.

I like the idea of a "hopeful universalism". We should not rejoice in the eternal damnation of our fellow humans, but there is little to no hint of a universal redemption in scripture (unless, beyond a shadow of a doubt, the Apocalypse of Peter is proven to have been written by Peter). However, Peter's Apocalypse was rejected by the Nicene Council, as it appears to have been written too late to have been Peter's word and, if universalism were to be true, what is the point of Jesus' Gospel and the work of the Church if not to save mankind? It is a hope beyond hope, but I wish not for the majority of mankind to be eternally tormented and apart from God

I love these videos!

Sure but couldn’t “everlasting fire” also mean that the hell dimension itself will always be a feature of creation? Like it’ll be there forever but the individual souls in there aren’t necessarily there forever? Or better yet, maybe it’s only “everlasting” insofar as however long it is needed to exist, in order to purify everything thoroughly? Whereas “everlasting life” is more direct in its implications of eternal life for individuals. In Jude 1:7 the fire is described as “eternal/everlasting” but is later extinguished.

What were the theological reasons for implementing something in your church architecture that can't be obtained except by going to hell? I can think of a few good reasons but I'd like to hear if you had a thought process about that.

Great video!

If you deserve eternal punishment for sinning against a eternal God then how did Jesus pay for our sins if he didn’t suffer a eternal punishment?

Out of all doctrines regarding eternal death, I lean more towards annihilationism, revelations refers to hell as having been "cast into the lake of fire.", despite the fact people describe hell AS the lake of fire, to me this indicates the idea of hell not existing after the second death much like how death will, the eternal punishment for sin being eternal death directly opposes the "eternal life" with God. I don't know if this counts as some sort of universalism but it's interesting to think about/

Great video.

I am Orthodox Christian and I believe in some weak form of Universalism. Basically, I think that there are many good people who were just born in different cultures but still do their best to be good according to some local form of established moral which maybe comes close to what is accepted in Christianity. Of course, many pagan beliefs are unacceptable and inexcusable and practitioners may go to hell (It is God who has authority over that matter and no other). This is just what I think, it may be untrue.

The opposite of life is DEATH, not punishment. Anihalationalism makes the most sense because the opposite of life is DEATH. Eternal death, not torture.

What is the importance of appealing to the authority of the early church and the church as a whole?

You should make a video in every biblical reference in Minecraft itself

I recently came across your channel, and I appreciate your work! It is refreshing to have a pop-level Protestant perspective out there that is theologically traditional but not evangelical. I recently encountered a view called "inductive universalism", which is the idea that eternal conscious torment is always a possibility if there were people who would perpetually reject God into eternity, but inductively that is unlikely so universalism is most likely true. I think I would term myself an inductive non-universalist, because I adopt a similar framework with the opposite intuition haha. I think it is probable that there will be people who eternally, perpetually reject God. As a side note, I like your music! Have you ever considered working with some different software or sound libraries to get a more "realistic" mockup of your music?

You should do a video on Unitarianism

God is not Glorified if Eternal Hell is true- God is a tyrant and worthy of no devotion, ONLY fear- if eternal hell is true.

If you want to hear what christian universalist actually believe look at the total victory of christ or the love unrelenting channel's.

So I have been thinking about faith and spirituality because of life and getting older etc. I was raised Christian but have grown jaded and cynical of the church. Recently have decided to explore it again, but I have some reservations that I hope you had answers to. 1. For those that have never heard about Christianity, never exposed or never had the chance to declare their faith before death (e.g: miscarriage) How then are these people saved and if they are not, isn’t that unfortunate (especially if say some are genuinely good people). Is the answer just, well sucks for them? 2. How does Christianity differ from other religions that have been around for probably as long as Christianity has been, like Islam, Buddhism etc. (Disclaimer: my knowledge on religion is limited) Love to hear what you think or even make a video about it! Thanks!

What are your thoughts about annihilationism ?

At 7:50 you point out the Daily Reformation guy argued he is a Universalist because in the early church Universalism was prominent / popular. At 8:06 you make the excellent point that just because something is popular doesn't mean it is true. But at 8:10 concerning rejecting Universalism you say "when the early church is in like unanimous agreement about something, then I think we need to basically believe it." Uh . . . It appears you're doing exactly what the Daily Reformation guy did. Following this you said, "when the church actually studied this issue they ended up rejecting Universalism which is why the Athanasian Creed explicitly talks about eternal punishment." I thought to myself, "Aha! Redeemed Zoomer is getting to the heart of the matter. We should accept or reject Universalism based on what God has revealed to us in His word." But at 8:40 you said, "So if we're going to appeal to the authority of the early church we need to also appeal to the authority of the church as a whole and understand the church has the authority to come to consensuses on some issues and determine which things are heretical." *Oy!* Are you saying the church has the authority to determine what is true and what is heretical? If you are saying this I would like to recommend you shift your paradigm concerning what has authority in a Christian's life. Ask yourself, what led the church to write the Athanasian Creed? It was the Scriptures that led the church to promote the truths we find in the Athanasian Creed. We don't believe those truths because we find them in the Athanasian Creed. We believe those truths because we find them in the Scriptures which the church restated in the Creed. We don't believe something because the church said it. That would make us like the Thessalonians who believed Paul's messages without checking the Scriptures. We believe something because we find it in the Scriptures. That would make us like the Bereans who believed Paul's messages after checking what he said against the Scriptures. (Acts 17 : 11 "Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true.")

There are good Christians who believe the Bible is divinely inspired. They might not be your cup of tea, but they believe in the Resurrection and try to live as good followers of Jesus; and that makes you clearly Christian. Universalism is no “weirder” than any other thing argued about that’s touched on in the Bible.

I believe in Annihalationism

12:30 Not necessarily. Remember Revelation ends with Hell being thrown into the Lake of Fire and a "New Heaven and New Earth". The Damned obviously won't get to enter Heaven but they may be saved in the New Creation. Just a possible Eschaton since the Bible talks about dual resurrections.

Do a video on abolitionism (the belief that the damned are dead and not conscious )

Belief in eternal hell is why I stopped being a christian. I legitimately cannot fathom how anyone thinks infinite torture is a justifiable concept, let alone something that a just and merciful god would allow.

I think it's eternal death and not eternal torture It is described as darkness Since it's described both as eternal death and eternal torture in the Bible, it could be conceivable that eternal death is for humans that are not saved, while eternal torture is for demons That makes.more sense because demons aren't savable and have committed the unforgivable sin

Everyone has a chance to be saved but not everyone has an equal chance. The predestined teaching teaches that some ppl are predestined to be hated like Esau or the up coming antichrist. God created vessels for glory and vessels for shame. So maybe eternal damnation ends in eternal death, but even If someone could come out of hell he couldn't bc the old world is by then already wiped out. So God could recreate worldtime in a timeless way like he is timeless. And therefore God remains just and good and there is no shadow within his actions. Remember when in Hebrew when it states that our god is an eternal consuming flame 🔥. So therefore eternal punishment would create eternal shadow within God which is wicked to him, bc he is the heaven and he is also hell, bc he is the Lord. I think this is kind of the only answer. In addition to that God have given us all the words we speak so maybe we don't even have the words we need to understand what will happen next (after time ends and eternity starts)

Personally I have always had the thought in my head that one day god might destroy hell, and Satan along with it

I'm glad you give the view a fair shake. I'd say universalism has its place in some conversions because Hell is such a nasty view for some people to stomach that if you can bring someone into faith by toning it down. Permissible but not to be dogmatically asserted.

Imagine yourself a glowing light being, invincible and perfectly loving, and Judas is next to you. He stabs you in the face when he can but you don't feel it. Infact you are godlike so you modify judas knife stabs to feel like tickles. He is a theif but you control infinity, so you can just will him to have all he ever hoped for, BUUUUT instead you chose to torture him for eternity. Something does not jive. That is just wild speculation, though I don't know what God thinks. Maybe it is just conscious torment but I've discovered the things tormenting my conscience are not human, they are dark spiritual things. I have figured out that it's in the shredding of my nervous system that they feel cold I wonder if that's where people get the idea of death feeling cold. Certainly not a universal feeling I have heard the near death stories of light or warmth or love, but these interstitial things, it's similar to frostbite I once had in my hands but instead it's for my mind. For sure there are right and good things and good intentions and respect and such, for me it was all ripped from me in a day. I was not careful around some scary things. Overly seeing good in things without acknowledging where they were wrong. Who knows. Again these are just guesses and speculations from experience.

11:05 In order for Universalism to be teue, you need to evangelize the Nether - that is, *BUILD CHURCHES IN THE NETHER PLSSSS!!!* 😎😎😎😎😎😎😎

Believing God doesn’t send people to Hell does NOT mean you think He lacks the ability. It stems from the belief that God’s love is so immense and His logic so unfathomable - He exists outside of time and space, let’s remember - that He chooses to save even the worst of us. Don’t believe it if you want! But it is rooted in the tradition of trying to understand God, not this strawman of “progressive” Christians just making up whatever they want. I love your videos, as I’ve said many times before, but there’s ROOM for progressive Christians in a secularizing society. Having 30% or so of Christians be accepting of LGBT people should be a TINY price to pay for allowing the Global Church to retain more of its cultural relevancy and continue to help society.

7:21-7:46 See, this is why I'm not a Christian- You're supposed to sacrifice basic empathy for a supernatural being who very well could be evil.