Thank You. I am a former Baptist minister and was taught lies about the Book of Mormon then I was led to read the Book of Mormon by the Holy Spirit. I met with the missionaries to learn more and I knew the Book of Mormon and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is true. My father also a long time Baptist minister and pastor was angry with me and he finally relented and read the Book of Mormon and he and my mother came to me and said they know that the Book of Mormon is true and wanted to join the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. That was 52 years ago. I am currently 85 years of age and the Ward organist. Your style of teaching is awesome and fast paced, I love it. God bless you and keep up the good work. I also taught 4 years of Institute of Religion and I really enjoyed this video.

I am honestly loving this series

Okay it’s May 2024 and I just finished listening on my way to work! (Public school teacher in Washington state! ) How did I miss this? I have been watching your channel for the last few months!! I guess I need to go back and start from the beginning!😊 I just want to say thank you so much for all of your hard work, research, filming, editing and enthusiasm for archaeology in the book of Mormon! As a convert to the church who studied Judaism and archaeology many years ago- you have reignited my love of Ancient religious Scriptures! I cannot thank you enough!!!❤🙏🏽🙏 J

1:42 Yes the most common definition of Israel means to "struggle with God" BUT THE REST of the definition is "letting God prevail."

Oh man thank you Pauls brother for the beautiful work. You guys are awesome . Can't wait for the next episode 👍♥️🙏.

New favorite channel guys...feasting upon the words through you. Please never quit doing what you're doing. You are giving us a wonderful name that we hope, for no other reason, earns respect from all people.

As I said on Cwic: The only Paul Brothers I'm willing to follow!

I absolutely love this! I not only felt their excitement of discovery but also their love of the Book of Mormon.

A stick is a record used in Middle East. From shipping records and sacred texts they were bound by a stick in the spine creating more than one page.

I love what you are doing here! I found you via Midnight Mormons! I'm sharing this with everyone. Such important work!!!

Brother, You are intelligent and amazing. I am going to send your video to guy who was LDS but then left due to don't quite understand The Book of Mormon. I am a part time missionary in bay area California.

Great information and presentation, thanks for the clarifications, and details of the “stick” of Joseph. I love what you and your brother are doing!

This is really interesting thanks for all the good information and work. I have skeptics in my family and I love what you are doing to give mr true information I can pass on to them more to ponder and think about!

Oh my!! I am so EXCITED for this channel!! Keep it up! How informative!

I’m so glad you are putting this research out there. I can’t wait to see more of what you have to share!! 😊

You've done a great job, young man… I really like the fact that you bring up some counter points… If there are obvious counterpoints, whether they are surface or mid level or deep, they should be addressed in order for people to believe that you are genuine You should set up a avenue to contribute on a monthly basis to help pay for your research and travel… I would be willing to contribute monthly… Roger Preble, flower mound, Texas

Found this channel because of your interview with Wayne May. This is an awesome channel, thanks for what you’re doing! I’m here for it!!

Thank you. Have sent to my friends who are not members yet.👍🙏🇦🇺

What a fantastic Channel you have here Love the backdrop love how it all looks

Great work! Cant wait for more!

I wish you and your team well on your adventure. Certainly sounds so interesting . May The Lord bless your work.❤🙏😊

Mesco America is the place! That's why the Temple dedication prayers talk about Lehi and his descendants. Belize is where the Savior appeared. Love this!

Thank you for creating the videos !!

So exciting!!!!

Love these videos! Sharing them with fam and friends.💪🏻💪🏻🔥

These guys do awesome work!!! Well done 👍🏻

I enjoyed this video very much! Thank you. Most Christians have heard about Father Abraham who had many sons, and you are one of them and so am I. It would be good to draw the line from the Abrahamic covenant that "In you all the nations of the Earth shall be blessed."

Thank you so much. I feel so much more confident in my understanding of the topic now. I appreciate the time you took to explain things in a way that was both clear and concise. That was fantastic!

Great work Hayden! 12:38 “My tabernacle also shall be with them” seems to me to be talking about a time after the restoration of Israel and rise of the one king ruling over the reunified kingdoms of Israel, chronologically speaking. I’m still personally looking forward to the future fulfillment of that prophecy.

Great video. I learned some new and interesting things I never knew before and am intrigued to see more.

Love this! Any updates on when your next video will come out and what it'll be about?

Thanks for doing this guys. I'm intrigued to see if what knowledge you have to add to my knowledge bank. I also like the fact that you said you will be exploring both American and South American landings. I have an interesting theory I would like to talk with you about if you have time.

just ask one jew. Like literally any of us could tell you that the two sticks that the torah scroll is wound around (visible today in literally any synagogue) is also called an Eitz (that's a better transliteration btw, strongs is based primarily on a very localized pronunciation of Ivrit which had become corrupted over time). One of the more common translations of that word would be tree, which is why when returning the Torah scroll to the ark we sing a melody called "Eitz chaim hi" or "this is the tree of life."

I love your doing thing brother! Hope this works out for you!

excellent work brother!

The stick, as you call it, is not a representation of a book. It is a staff; which represents the tribe, or family. The prophecy says that the Almighty shall make the family of Jacob (Israel) a whole family once again.

So love…❤️❤️❤️ give me more u derstanding about the 12 tribes of Israel🙏👍👍 thank you so much

cwic got me here❣️

13:15 I lived 5 minutes from this temple for 8 years of my life. It is the Mesa, Arizona Temple.

I read a fascinating article that explained that Jehoiakim could have also been called Zedekiah, and the destruction of Jerusalem would have referred to the exile, which would explain how Lehi could have left Jerusalem 600 years before yhe birth of Christ

Your gunna get a lot of people attacking you in the comments through out this journey, good luck

Years ago my husband and I created scripture holders called Sticks Grips. We were inexperienced and it didn't fly. I wonder if it would now.

nice very interesting

Good stuff.

Stick another form for “rod” but in cuneiform they scribble with a reed or stick and yes they wrote on wax and clay tablets held on wood planks. In fact understanding the prominence of scribes is significant. Writing and articulation is heavily criticized against one another, among scribes. This was high value and it separated “academics” of the time and there was more concern about eloquence than fact, outside of that you could be criticized as being a scribe of counting and data keeping duties. Like the blue collar scribe. So when Enoch voices his weakness in speaking, there is reason for that. Same with Moses, likely raised in a Nomark style of education but fell short in command presence, like we see with lawyers and politicians today. Also other Asiatic people did write on sticks, or shoots of wood. Critics will be critics because they do not wish it to be true. Good job keep it up! Side note, “reed”, “stick”, and “rod” all have significance in depicting words, language, and measurement. Bro of Jared and Lehi take records with them to preserve their language. Just some insight to consider when studying the Book of Mormon.

Dry Bones 5:45

Riminder. You said Lehi was of the house of Joseph through Manasseh. He was not of Judah, he was thus an Israelite but not a Jew. He may have been of the northern Israelite kingdom but this is not known since he preached in Jerusalem.

I don’t see anything here worth noting to be honest. You admit the critics are right and several times you talk about the fact that this one very specific place this is the only place stick could be writing tool. This is the same type of argument as FAIR Mormon saying the Pyrgge (excuse my spelling) plates are the best evidence we have for the BoM but the word count doesn’t match up at all.

Interesting to consider Abrahams blessing on Joseph and to note that Lehi is a direct decendent of Joseph and actually helps fulfill this prophecy. Genesis 49:22-25 King James Version 22 Joseph is a fruitful bough, even a fruitful bough by a well; whose branches run over the wall: The stick of Joseph, Book of Mormon, fullfills the law of witnesses, that in the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses shall every word be established. The Jews gave us the Old Testament, the New Testament, and the Book of Mormon is Another Testament of Jesus Christ.

Nice work Many get discouraged with making this type of content don’t be one of them!

Interesting. first time hearing of the tribe of Ephraim going to the Anglo Saxon lands. Although the Anglo Saxon period was around 5th century AD(400-500AD) long after the Babylonian siege in 587BC and even further from the Assyrian siege in 701BC. The Celts (Gaels, picts, britons) were around 800BC (Iron Age). That would be closer to the siege timelines. Table of nations in Genesis 10:1-5 has the white races as the gentiles (descendants of Japheth). Also associated throughout the Bible with the Romans, Greeks etc. I’m not saying it didn’t happen but I’ve never heard that about the movement of the tribes of Israel. I’d like to hear more about that if you have more information. Edit: i have gone over genealogy records that have the prophet Jeremiah escaping the siege with 2 daughters of Zedekiah king of Judah. First to Spain where one daughter married royalty there and then traveling to Ireland where the second daughter named Tamar Tephii married an Irish warrior prince. Next to that entry in the record it says “the scepter shall not depart from Judah”

Ya, but where did the North American horses and chariots come from?

I don't get into theological discussions much, because they are subjective. But to get to the point, this is entirely speculative. I love evidentiary discussions. Let me ask, define what you would find to be evidence?

Also Ishmael- who’s children married Lehi’s - was of the tribe of Ephraim.

Would have given you two thumbs up for this very interesting, insightful video, but yt only let's me give you one. Subscribed and looking forward to the next one. I've been learning from come follow me videos, now from you. Thank you!

Joseph Smith claimed that the Book of Mormon is the account of one of the 10 lost tributes that Lehi was a direct descendant of Manasseh who was the brother of Ephraim. So Manasseh is the wrong brother if we're going to say that Ezekiel 37 is Book of Mormon prophecy. The church today teaches that the coming of the Book of Mormon is an essential part of God's plan in the reunification of Israel!! But unfortunately the text of Ezekiel 37 or its context does not provide evidence for such claims.

Because Joseph Smith is English, he is in the tribe of Ephraim? What? And since the dead guy gave him the BOM, the BOM is the stick? I'm just not making the connection?

Have you watched the video "Ohio Valley Native American Earthwork Sites and New Discoveries through Remote Sensing." from West Virginia University?

Surprised you didn't include the blessing of Jacob to Joseph. "Joseph is a fruitful bough, even a fruitful bough by a well; whose branches run over the wall:” (Genesis 49:22)

The dry broken bones are the remnants of the people described in Micah Chapter 3. . Micah 3:1-4 And I proceeded to say: “Hear, please, YOU heads of Jacob and YOU commanders of the house of Israel. Is it not YOUR business to know justice? 2 YOU haters of what is good and lovers of badness, tearing off their skin from people and their organism from off their bones; 3 YOU the ones who have also eaten the organism of my people, and have stripped their very skin from off them, and smashed to pieces their very bones, and crushed [them] to pieces like what is in a widemouthed pot and like flesh in the midst of a cooking pot. 4 At that time they will call to Jehovah for aid, but he will not answer them. And he will conceal his face from them in that time, according as they committed badness in their dealings. . The sons of Jacob during the last days metaphorically strip the flesh and skin from the people they govern and crush their bones. . Compare Micah Chapter 3 above to Daniels description of the fourth and fearsome beast with ten kings. . The ten kings are ten of the sons of Jacob during the final part of the days. (Genesis Ch 49) . These ten sons of Jacob are cast off while two of them, Judah and Joseph are saved: . Zechariah 10:6 And I will make the house of ** JUDAH ** superior, and the house of ** JOSEPH **I shall save. And I will give them a dwelling, for I will show them mercy; and they must become like those whom I had not cast off; . . JUDAH is Jesus Christ, King of the Jews (Tribe of Judah) . JOSEPH is ?????????, King of the Nations (Tribes of Ephraim and Manasseh) . Ezekiel 37:19 speak to them, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah has said: “Here I am taking the stick of ** JOSEPH ** which is in the hand of E´phra·im, and the tribes of Israel his partners, and I will put them upon it, that is, the stick of ** JUDAH ** and I shall actually make them one stick, and they must become one in my hand.”’ . "and they must become one"

You should consider setting up a not-profit organization for this venture, so that people can make tax deductible donations to the effort. :-)

A simple reading of the all of Ezekiel 37 shows this to be untrue. It literally says the sticks represent Ephraim/Israel and Judah. It's talking about reunification since the kingdom was split at the time. And it says it will be in the land Israel. Plus, David will be king over them, which is very plainly Jesus Christ.

Ezekiel 37 explains the stick is actually the meaning of the stick as two nations - north and south, that is, Judah and Joseph. You already recognized Judah as the south but failed to recognize Joseph as the north. the two tribes came together under 1 king, David, and the north and south were reunited, exactly like it says "one nation" in Ezekiel 37. It does not say "1 scripture" read it carefully, it says "one nation." The only way to believe Ezekiel 37 is talking about the book of mormon is to: -Replace "nation" with "scripture" -insert words "Book of Mormon" and "Bible" into the text just like the vide demonstrated -replace "one king" with "one scripture" -ignore the bible explaining Judah and Joseph as the south and north tribes -ignore this prophecy fulfilled being under king David. Keep reading your bible and read it plainly with contrite spirit, its talking about nations, not scriptures.

Joseph Smith said the daughters of Ismael who Lehi sent his sones back to Jerusalem to get to marry were all of the tribe of Joseph.

Writing boards were not permanent records. So it still is not a great explanation. Consider what D&C 27:5 actually says: “...to whom I have committed the keys of the ***RECORD*** of the stick of Ephraim;” D&C 27:5 This verse is saying that the Book of Mormon is ***NOT*** the Stick of Ephraim mentioned in Ezekiel 37, but is the ***RECORD*** of the Stick of Ephraim. So it is saying that the kingdom of Ephraim is the stick. Ezekiel 37:16-22 talks of writing on the sticks, so the sticks sound like they are records. But D&C 27:5 supports the sticks being the kingdoms that God writes upon by giving them records, and not the records themselves. Obviously, when the kingdoms come together the RECORDS they have will also come together.

I mean, I love the BoM, but the church takes a boat load BOAT LOAD of scriptures way out of context.

I love you that’s why I must tell you the truth. Paul said anyone who teaches a different Gospel let him be accursed. I know you may have grown up believing Joseph Smith’s so called vision, maybe you’re parents taught you at a young age. Jesus said in Mathew 24 regarding the end times Do not be deceived. Ask your self as a Mormon, what do you have to do to get to heaven. That’s the great news of the gospel. There is nothing we can do, our good works are like filthy rags. With man getting to heaven is impossible. The good news is when Jesus died on the cross the last thing he said was “ it’s finished “ the debt has been paid. So it’s not our righteousness that God sees but it’s his. Jesus the only sinless man thats ever lived. God said the sin can not be forgiven without the shedding of blood. Well Jesus shed his 0:39 0:39 blood for all of us. So you must put your faith in Jesus. The real Jesus. Not the Jesus the Muslims believe in. The one that says he is a prophet and good teacher. Not the Jesus of the Mormons either, the one that is the brother of Satan. Meaning he was a created being, not that Jesus. The man Jesus who is also God. The one who gave up his kingdom to be born on earth by a virgin, the one that led a sinless life. The one who died on a Roman cross for all of our sins. The same one that beat death because he rose from his grave after being dead for 3 days. The same one that showed himself to over 500 people,staying on earth for over a month before rising to heaven in front of a multitude of witnesses. That Jesus is asking that you call on his name and believe, repent of your sins and you have absolute assurance of going to heaven. The bad news is this, that same Jesus who said I am the truth, the life and the way also said no one will come to the father apart from me. Please ask Jesus, the real Jesus to show him self to you. I love you and am praying for you.

More than once, critics have told me, yes, sticks is correct, BUT, it was a visual aid, two sticks in one hand, appearing as one stick, symbolic of uniting Israel. Is there any credence to that or is it a deliberately superficial reading of the text? At the least, we know Hebrew translated into English loses MANY avenues of meaning.

You should clarify that the bodies were restored, not resurrected. No one is resurrected until after Jesus rises from the tomb.

Ishmael is from the tribe of Ephraim! Also, will you do any special shows on the Jaredites?

That is NOT talking about Books, its talking about the tribes gathering to become 1 Nation, and it clearly says that,, It happened in 1948... Along with other prophecy that was fulfilled,,,

Even as a member I don't subscribe to this interpretation of Ezekiel37. I agree that this prophecy is about the restoration of Israel, but I disagree that the sticks are meant to represent books. I believe they they are trees representing the divided kingdoms of Judah and Israel. The trees are brought together into the hand of Ezekiel in front of the people. When they ask what this means Ezekiel tells us exactly what this means: 21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land: 22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all: This is clearly talking about nations being brought together into one hand. Also in this prophecy Ezekiel is standing in for the Lord, and shows the people that they are gathered into his/the Lords hand. The hand is a pseudonym and representation of David a future King/servant/shepherd who will reunite the tribes of Israel as did David of Old. 23,...they be my people, and I (Jehovah) will be their God. 24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments(ordinances), and observe my statutes, and do them. We LDS folk usually skip over those details in our interpretations. We should be extremely careful not to wrest the scriptures and force our own beliefs into the scriptures. The Bible is not meant to prove the Book of Mormon rather the Book of Mormon was given to establish the truths of the Bible. 1 Nephi 13:40 And the angel spake unto me, saying: These last records(BOM), which thou hast seen among the Gentiles, shall establish the truth of the first(Bible), Does the Book of Mormon fulfill this prophecy? I think thats a stretch. Does the Book of Mormon support this prophecy? Yes here's one example: the allegory of the olive TREE Jacob 5:74 And thus they labored, with all diligence, according to the commandments of the Lord of the vineyard, even until the bad had been cast away out of the vineyard, and the Lord had preserved unto himself that THE TREES had become again the natural fruit; and THEY became like unto ONE BODY; and the fruits were equal; and the Lord of the vineyard had preserved unto himself the natural fruit, which was most precious unto him from the beginning.

Predates the Restoration? You mean the final Restoration? The whole point of the term Dispensation is a period of Restoration of the truth. Christ himself was responsible for a period of Restoration.

The stick lf Ephraim is the biggest misinterpretation that LDS like to use. God makes it clear what the sticks represent, but the LDS ignore that. Furthermore if they read the whole chapter its a prophecy of the kingdom that will be under Christ. LDS are often taught how to interpret scripture to spin it to their viewpoint but be honest to the text the sticks dont represent the Bible and Book of Mormon

Very well produced, I want an office like yours. Nice vibe, almost Indiana Jones vibe going on. However, you're grasping at straws or _sticks_ here. To interpret the bible typically you let the text define what it means when possible, aka exegesis. That way you don't have to add your own words to make it work, or take an external idea (BoM) and force the text into that box. We're all prone to it. For example the text tells us what this prophecy means: 17Then join them together into one stick, so that they become one in your hand. 18When your people ask you, ‘Won’t you explain to us what you mean by these?’ ... the Lord GOD says: ‘I will take the Israelites out of the nations to which they have gone, and I will gather them from all around and bring them into their own land. 22I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel, and one king will rule over all of them. Then they will no longer be two nations and will never again be divided into two kingdoms. The sticks were two nations, Judah and Israel, and God says they will be united again under a future Messianic David-esque king (aka Jesus). You also factor in who it was written to. You also check the other uses of the words (stick, gets) through the bible (like you showed it was never used in the bible as a writing tablet, look at biblehub.com/hebrew/strongs_6086.htm). Also note that Paul quotes Ezekiel 37 in 2 Corinthians 6. Does this quoting bring any light to this topic? ------ Another place LDS have trouble just letting the word of God speak is the nature of God. Isiaiah 43:10 Before me no god was formed, nor shall there be any after me. Isiaiah 44:8 Is there a God besides me? There is no Rock; I know not any. Isiaiah 44:6 I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God. Deuteronomy 4:35 You were shown these things so that you would know that the LORD is God; there is no other besides Him. If you let the text talk you know there is only one God. Period. Not that we have to do with. Only one God Period. Read all associated cross references and let God's word interpret itself and minister to you. You have to admit how much more majestic and powerful a single uncreated creator God is that created everything from nothing and wants YOU in his family (as per the bible), versus a territorial god, one of near infinite gods(LDS doctrine). It shows how demeaning the many gods doctrine is. Sometimes I feel like LDS are trying to win a school debate where you defend a position with whatever skills you have, and there are no consequences just like everyone wins at the end. However God's word makes it clear if you serve the wrong god, e.g. no the one that lines up with the Isaiah verse that I posted above, then you cannot be saved. LDS are also raised to have a victim mentality, and to use that to justify their beliefs. However, bad ideas are dangerous and deserve to be attacked because salvation is on the line. Imagine the weight, judgement wise, on your shoulders of leading God's children astray from the God of the bible. This isn't a game.

Each tribe of Israel has its own stick(book). Israel was scattered so that most people of this world descend from Abraham. Those books are still hidden by God and will come forth when it is time.

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There is no stick of Joseph. The only ones with the stick is Judah and Zerah who are the zarhites in chronicles 27:11 Joshua 7:17 and numbers 26:13 a" branch of the tribe of Judah."

The interpretation of this vision & prophecy is literally given to us in the subsequent verses, yet you're trying to force a secondary interpretation and have the word "ets" mean "writing board" and have Joseph Smith be of the tribe of Ephraim. However, even if Joseph Smith were of the tribe of Ephraim, it still would not support your argument because he did NOT write the BofM, he only translated it. On the other hand, Jews wrote most of the bible. Why would Jews write the stick of Juda, but non-Ephraimites write the stick of Ephraim? Furthermore, in verse 19, the stick of Joseph is to be "in the hand of Ephraim, AND the tribes of Israel" (which would be all the tribes of the northern Kingdom). By your logic, this means Joseph Smith could have been of any tribe other than Juda, making your forced argument of needing J.S. to specifically be of the tribe of Ephraim utterly unnecessary. You are doing exactly what Jacob in the Book of Mormon condemns of the Jews: "But behold, the Jews... despised the words of plainness... and sought for things that they could not understand. Wherefore, because of their blindness, which blindness came by looking beyond the mark, they must needs fall" (Jacob 4:14). There are more issues with your argument, but I'll just say this, if God has already given us the interpretation for Ezekiel 37, why go beyond the mark? As Alma puts it, "Behold, the scriptures are before you; if ye will wrest them it shall be to your own destruction" (Alma 13:20).

Not sure if you did this on purpose but you conveniently left out vs. 18-24 which tells you exactly what the sticks mean. It does not mean any of what you asserted in this video. You did not share the context of the chapter either which is vital. At this time Israel is DIVIDED. Norther Israel and Southern Judah. God does not what them divided. The sticks, not scrolls, or writing tablets, rep both nations. Stick of Judah reps the southern kingdom, the stick of joseph reps the northern kingdom. How do I know? THE PASSAGE TELL YOU! There is no way you can jump to the conclusion this is the Bible and the BofM other than just SAYING it. That does not work. Please read the passage and make another video to correct your errant view. This is not my opinion. The passage flat out says, when the people ask what the sticks mean, tell them........... God bless.

Everyone...literally everyone is wrong about the two sticks. This was God prophesying the New Covenant where Jew and Gentile would become one in God's hand. Face palm a thousand times, doesn't anyone understand the Bible?? Read the New Testament, people. It's what interprets the Old Testament.

Yet another attempt to squezzzz out a HARD gold nugget on the john to smell ter it down and add to the Golden Plates with a language that even the Egyptians have trouble understanding . is it ego driven ? Now Joseph has a stick in one hand and his fandango in the other.

This is absurd please read Ezekiel 37 the whole of it in three translations including a simple translation for example NLT, ESV and then read the KJV. There is no way this is talking about books. Let Bible interpret Bible. Just read the whole chapter 3 times. It’s about the reunion of ISREAL and Judah - the 12 tribes!!! Also you and I are not Jews unless if you have Jewish ancestry. We are gentiles engrafted in!!

How about: ISRAEL=those who are willing to let GOD prevail!😂

The 12 Ttribes of Israel are not Nations but individual people. For example The Tribe of Ephraim are people who are Born in the .Month of May the sign of Taurus. Or people who are born in August are from the Tribe of Judah they are the sign of Leo. England is not the Tribe of Ephraim not according to the Bible.

IMO the Book of Mormon is the Stick of Joseph however... The Stick of Joseph is the record of the Jews in Africa (by way of Egypt), not America. Joseph means Egypt. Joseph was sold into Egypt. His father, Jacob (Israel), came to Egypt as well. The scattered Jews spoken of by Ezekiel refer to Jews that went to Egypt and thus any record they write was referred to as the "Stick of Joseph". The prophesy is of course that Israel will be gathered and their record will be returned and reunited. They will be gathered from Egypt. The reunification of the Stick of Judah and the Stick of Joseph was attempted by Moroni at the end of the Book of Mormon. The world was much smaller at the time. There was no knowledge of America. "The World" would have been just the Middle East and Egypt. Europe, most of Asia and most of Africa was unknown. Australia, Antarctica, North and South America were totally unknown in Biblical times. Google the first world map drawn by Herodotus. This is the World at the time. Notice it consists of just two large land masses connected by a Narrow Neck of Land we call the Isthmus of Suez. Jeremiah speaks about these Jews in Egypt. They were fleeing the conflict and World War happening in Israel between Egypt and Babylon (this video briefly discusses this war). Jeremiah claims the Jews that flee to Egypt will be destroyed except a small remnant that will be saved in order to return and report what happened to the Jews in Egypt. This is another reference to the Stick of Joseph being united with the stick of Judah. Lehi fled to Egypt as well. This is why he named his two sons born in Egypt after Jacob and Joseph. The Bible Prophets spoken of above that went to Egypt and the name sake of the Stick of Joseph. Lehi knew he was writing the Stick of Joseph according to Jeremiah's commandment and Ezekiel's prophecy. Lehi, however did not remain in Egypt. He journeyed up the Nile River and joined the Jews in Ethiopia. The remainder of the Book of Mormon happens in Africa centered around Ethiopia. Africa is the Land South. Lehi never sailed to America. The Book of Mormon never makes this claim. Lehi's sailing journey was a circumnavigation of Africa as told by Herodotus. In Ether 13:6-7 the prophecy of a New Jerusalem is put forth. It will be built by a remnant of the seed of Joseph on "this land". "This land" is Africa, where the Jews escaped. We know it's Africa because the story of Joseph and Jacob arriving in Egypt is told. It's not just an example of The Lords dealing with His people, the Book of Mormon says this is the Lords "type". This is a significant word. If it's the Lords "type" to send Joseph and Jacob to Egypt, why did he send Lehi to America? Why not send Abraham to America? Why not send Moses to America? The Lord did not send Lehi to America, the Lord followed the "type" and sent Lehi to Africa. The Book of Mormon events happen in Africa and are the stories recorded by a tribe of Beta Israel. These are the Jews we are discussing. Jews in Africa, like Jacob (Israel). If Moroni knew that Lehi went to America, he never would have said it's the Lords "type" to send his people to Egypt to avoid perishing. This is because Moroni was in Africa and he knew Lehi came to Africa. Jeremiah knew it wasn't safe to remain in Egypt. Lehi was in Egypt when he had the "Tree of Life Vision" that commands he move up the Nile, to the South, into Ethiopia. Ethiopia is the Land of Nephi. When Limhi sent men, they left The Land of Nephi and journeyed North. They were following the Nile to Egypt. These men encountered the "dry bones" in Egypt. They knew Ezekiel's prophecy was about Egypt and returned with evidence of a fulfilled prophecy. If Lehi had remained in Egypt and not followed the command of the Tree of Life Vision, they too would have died just as Jeremiah prophesized. You can see that going to Egypt was controversial. Jeremiah was against it. Lehi and many others were for it. This is why Laman and Lemuel murmured and wanted to return to Jerusalem. Nephi continually reassures them by repeating Biblical stories that happened in Egypt and how the Lord provides for His people in Egypt. Laman and Lemuel do not perish in Egypt and become "dry bones" because they follow their father to Ethiopia. This is the Garden of Eden and the location of the Tree of Life. Ethiopia is mentioned in Genesis as one of the rivers of Eden. Although they don't perish in Egypt, they do not partake of the fruit of the Tree of Life and fall into apostacy. They mingle their seed with the native Ethiopians and separate themselves from the tribes of Beta Israel, the true lost tribes of Israel and the writers of the Book of Mormon. The claim I'm making is a serious one and I'm open to being wrong. I just don't see any evidence the Book of Mormon happened in America. All evidence is that it happened in the Old World. Everything continues to fall into place and make more sense, not less. Another quick example. When Lehi left Jerusalem and went from the Red Sea to the river he was going across the Narrow Neck of Land to The Nile. Later, his descendants use the "3 day" as a reference for the Narrow Neck of Land and the important crossing from Africa to Asia. This is why Alma says he went "3 days" to Ammonihah, Middoni and The Land of Ishmael. This is a clear reference to the journey back to the Middle East and the Biblical lands of Ammon (Jordan), Midian and The Land of Ishmael is obviously Arabia. In one verse the word "Midian" keeps it's Biblical spelling. This word is totally out of place and is a clear example of the Midian of the Bible. It's almost like an Easter Egg or Forensic Evidence of what happened. Someone altered the location of the events in The Book of Mormon. They knew the events are Old World and altered it to serve their purpose. Midian became Middoni. I'm not trying to be mean, it's just where the evidence is pointing. If you think this happened in America you are missing out on so much internal consistency and the point of what the writers were saying. These cities are not in Meso-America, or upstate New York.