What It Has Been Like To Own a Hybrid Subaru Crosstrek for 120k Miles

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Danny Drives

Danny Drives

4 жыл бұрын

After going over 120k miles in our daily driven Subaru XV Crosstrek I wanted to detail all the issues we have had with it.
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@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 4 жыл бұрын
Autotrader Article: www.autotrader.com/car-news/heres-what-its-been-own-hybrid-crossover-120000-miles-281474979945789
@chrisnelson1935
@chrisnelson1935 4 жыл бұрын
Fyi our 2020 gas only is getting nearly the same mpg as the hybrid 2016 we had
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 4 жыл бұрын
really?
@thudang5298
@thudang5298 2 ай бұрын
Appreciate the share! I think yours is the ONLY video on KZfaq right now of an actual owner's long term / high mileage experience with the Crosstrek PHEV. Thank you for that!
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind words! Be sure to check out more of my content!
@hieuhughesle-au9884
@hieuhughesle-au9884 4 жыл бұрын
All things consider this car survived pretty well for being a hybrid, dealing with snow, and long daily commutes
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 4 жыл бұрын
I hope it will continue surviving.
@nathancommissariat3518
@nathancommissariat3518 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the informative video - appreciate it!
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@leamarie9917
@leamarie9917 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. I just purchased a 2014 crosstrek Xv with only 50,000 miles. This gave me a really good gauge on what to expect with its lifespan. It helps that I also drive 40+ miles a day for work, and I live in the western part of PA 😂
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@514aam
@514aam Жыл бұрын
Replace that CVT fluid every 50k and it will last 2x longer.
@acebrigade9586
@acebrigade9586 Жыл бұрын
Trade it in, our 2014 at 120k has had tons of repairs
@SentimentalMo
@SentimentalMo 6 ай бұрын
Low mileage may not be a good thing: my 2014 have very low mileage because I mostly only drive short distance on local streets. My car has been mostly trouble free. The right front struct went bad making clunking noise and was replaced under warranty. I only change oils and filter when the maintenance light comes on. I have only needed to replace tires, batteries. My car does light up all the yellow error lights on the dash. Reading the error code would show a few error codes. The clear the errors and restart the car and all errors are clear. When all errors light up, the only real problem is the hybrid battery indicator on the front lcd display show empty. Clearing the error codes restart the car and all back to normal. This would happen once a month.
@john_hunter
@john_hunter Жыл бұрын
Bought a 2015 hybrid 3 months ago with 200k kilometers. Last owner took amazing care of it, and so will I. Seems like they had the start/stop battery replaced by a subaru dealer along with wheel bearings. Glad i dont have to deal with those issues for the time being. Id never pay full price for one of these but considering i snagged it for 12 grand im very happy with it. My own commute gets me around 5.6 litres per 100k (42mpg) per tank. Hope its been smooth sailing since you made this video.
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives Жыл бұрын
We got rid of it as soon as possible.
@doubledagrace
@doubledagrace 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate your article and post. I’m considering my first hybrid purchase (2021 Crosstrek). Is there any financial benefits worth mentioning (tax, fuel savings)?
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 3 жыл бұрын
I will say that the hybrid mentioned in the video was discontinued and then Subaru brought it back in a plug in hybrid version (this one is not plug in). No tax savings as it isn't a full on green vehicle, it is as green as a car is a performance car by adding a sport button. Fuel savings, this got a mpg or two over the standard one, but the best part was I might misquote the amount off the top of my head but the hybrid system added 20 hp more and 40 lb-ft of torque over standard.
@CosmicGlitterGoddess
@CosmicGlitterGoddess 3 жыл бұрын
I’m considering buying one used. How closely did you stick to recommended maintenance schedule? Outside the usual oil changes and things of that nature.
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 3 жыл бұрын
Not so strict, I mean no car needs its oil changed every 3k miles except for the first one.
@willytangkere5784
@willytangkere5784 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 🙏
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 3 жыл бұрын
you are welcome!
@timb.6951
@timb.6951 2 жыл бұрын
I had my front axle fail as well, but around 63000. Seems like a common xv problem Edit: if you hear clicking while you turn (probably more so while you accelerate through a turn like at a stoplight), take it in...
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 2 жыл бұрын
I have a friend who told me the same. After my pain with owning this Subaru, I think he tried to hide his issue as I would have said......TOLD YOU SO! lol
@BoulderHybrids
@BoulderHybrids 2 жыл бұрын
We're a shop in Colorado that has worked on many of these. Stay away from the 2014-16 Crosstrek Hybrids. If you want a Subaru from this era, just buy a regular one. Subaru's older Hybrid system is not reliable, especially when compared to Toyota Hybrids. Why do you think used RAV4 Hybrids sell for a lot more than used Crosstrek Hybrids?
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 2 жыл бұрын
This guy knows the problems I have had.
@acebrigade9586
@acebrigade9586 Жыл бұрын
He's right our 2014 hybrid has cost a lot in repairs
@NicoleMcFall
@NicoleMcFall Жыл бұрын
@@acebrigade9586Did you experience any overheating?
@user-oo5ev5nx8t
@user-oo5ev5nx8t 2 ай бұрын
What kind of problems?
@elijahsummers5223
@elijahsummers5223 3 жыл бұрын
Have the same car. Same exact issues at 40,000ish thousand miles. Had to replace the wheel bearings, axles. Then got the rotten egg smell, check hybrid system, and had to replace all my batteries. Already at 54,000 miles and the start/stop quit working. Not a very high functioning car maybe compared to a Toyota but a good car nonetheless. I use it for rideshare so the plan is to drive it into the ground.
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing your story. any other things gong on with it?
@Buc_Stops_Here
@Buc_Stops_Here 2 жыл бұрын
I own a 2013 Subaru Legacy. It now has almost 130,000 miles. For the first 119,000 miles nothing went wrong. Then the master brake cylinder failed ($500). At 122,000 we lost the rear wheel bearing (a known Subaru failing) which was another $500. At the same time the front McPherson struts went (another $1200). Fortunately, now at 129,800 nothing else has gone wrong at this point. Still, it is a pretty good reliable car because once you hit 120,000 the rubber seals start going on engines and transmissions. This has happened with every car I have owned (Toyota, Honda, GM, and Subaru). I think the first oil seal, around the oil cooler, will need replacing which will cost me another $500. It is just regular maintenance you need as a car ages, nothing too major. However the Subaru battery is bought from Toyota as this is the first generation hybrid system. Makes it more expensive to fix.
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah 100k has seemed to be the marker for things to go wrong on Subarus.
@madacan
@madacan 11 ай бұрын
Interesting about the rubber seals. For me, no rubber seals have EVER gone bad on any of my Honda and Toyota cars, and I usually buy them at 60-90K miles and then drive them over 200K miles (I've bought a few new ones too). There's a few issues here and there like a timing chain tensioner and starter in an old Corolla that was over 220K miles, and also a power steering module at 140K miles in a 2013 Honda Accord (replaced with junkyard unit). I've recently moved to a hilly location in a place with a wintry climate and am looking for a Subaru, but I'm not wanting the problems that appear to come with them at 100K+ miles.
@SentimentalMo
@SentimentalMo 6 ай бұрын
What kind of drive terrain? I only drive my 2014 on street and freeway. No off road. Only front right struct went bad and replaced under warranty. No other mechanical problems.
@paulkneeland5365
@paulkneeland5365 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I have been looking at 2015 Crosstrek XVs both Hybrid and non- Hybrid. I am possibly moving to Northern Ontario in the Autumn and need something a little more rugged than my current Toyota Prius C. The prime candidate I am looking at is a 2015 XV Hybrid with about 67,000 miles on it. It sounds like you have had a fairly positive experience with yours. I don't expect to get any great mileage improvement because of it being Hybrid, but I do worry about being stranded on the side of the road because of some weirdball Hybrid system error. Thoughts?
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 4 жыл бұрын
It won't leave you on the road. All the Hybrid wonky things I have had go wrong just limit power, still get you home.
@paulkneeland5365
@paulkneeland5365 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@SentimentalMo
@SentimentalMo 6 ай бұрын
My 2014 have not had any real hybrid problem. The check hybrid system light comes on because the 12V batteries were old and needed replacement. Once replaced, everything back the normal.
@taylorh9205
@taylorh9205 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought a black 2015 Crosstrek XV Hybrid Touring recently.. same exact car lol. It has 86,000 miles on it, would you personally recommend I invest in an extended warranty? The best option I’ve come across is $3300 for 5yrs/100,000 mi, bumper to bumper. I’m also curious what the cost of repairs has been for you so far including the wheel bearing issue.
@taylorh9205
@taylorh9205 3 жыл бұрын
*Axel issue not wheel bearing
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly no. This thing has been a pain in my butt so far, but I haven't spend $3300 in 5 years. Is your warranty for 100,000 miles you drive so you get a warranty until 186k? Might want to check some places give you time and mileage, but the mileage is of the vehicle, so your case your only covered for 14k more miles.
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 3 жыл бұрын
I figured you meant that.
@taylorh9205
@taylorh9205 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply! The warranty would be until I hit 186k.
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 3 жыл бұрын
Gotcha, then hmmm. I am coming to 150k now and still haven't spent $3300. I cannot imagine I will in 30k miles either, but I am just 1 example.
@Geverf
@Geverf 3 жыл бұрын
I have this same car. I had the start stop battery go and a rear wheel bearing as well. I’m only at 70k miles.
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 3 жыл бұрын
long way ahead of you my friend!
@wilshirewarrior2783
@wilshirewarrior2783 3 жыл бұрын
You can’t save enough money on fuel to pay for new batteries which after removal are another problem.
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it becomes a pain!
@mattcrumrine618
@mattcrumrine618 4 жыл бұрын
I suppose the big question would be if you would buy it again or not? The new Crosstrek Plug In is a little more efficient in the EV mode department
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 4 жыл бұрын
Probably not lol
@mattcrumrine618
@mattcrumrine618 4 жыл бұрын
The new ones use a planetary CVT from Toyota and a lot of Toyota tech. It’s a much smarter design if you’re happier with the size of the car. And it plugs in so you can do city stuff under full EV mode. Personally I wish they’d have a Forester or Outback Hybrid.
@chrisnelson1935
@chrisnelson1935 4 жыл бұрын
How did your 12v batteries hold up? we traded our 2016 to avoid having to replace them @ $300 for the start and $800 for the accessory battery. It was disappointing that the hybrid trades at a discount to the non hybrid. Ha commented too soon.
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 4 жыл бұрын
Hmm. You would have over spent my friend at $300 and $800. My stop/start battery blew itself leaking acid everywhere (look for a short video on my channel from a few months ago) I bought a replacement Duracell battery for $227 and then my AUX battery was cranking rough, so I swapped in a Optima Red Top for $182.
@chrisnelson1935
@chrisnelson1935 4 жыл бұрын
@@DannyDrives still over $400. We got way more than gtp price on our trade. And the 2020 is better in every way than our hybrid.
@chrisnelson1935
@chrisnelson1935 2 жыл бұрын
@@DannyDrives so over a year later the 1mpg difference remains. We got a heckuva trade in price just as sales were slowing down, don't regret the upgrade at all, eyesight and Android auto as well as x mode were well worth it
@SentimentalMo
@SentimentalMo 6 ай бұрын
I had hybrid system error light up and it was due to old batteries. Don’t know which one as mine have two. I replaced both and no more problem.
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 6 ай бұрын
Mine had 3. Two in the front and the big in the back
@SentimentalMo
@SentimentalMo 6 ай бұрын
@@DannyDrives mine is the same. And after almost 10 years, the health of the big battery in the back is 47% according to odb2 reading.
@walterwhite4850
@walterwhite4850 4 жыл бұрын
If the hybird battery is anything like the Prius hybird batter they are pretty easy to diagnose a bad cell and replace the cell.
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for the info
@chrisnelson1935
@chrisnelson1935 4 жыл бұрын
Not just that, but ebay has them for $300-700
@juanr.rodriguez3109
@juanr.rodriguez3109 3 жыл бұрын
How was the 5000 mile maintenance? Did you take it to the dealership for maintenance? Thanks.
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 3 жыл бұрын
5000 mile maintenance? What maintenance are you referring. There isn't anything that needs to be maintenance at 5k miles on a brand new vehicle with the exception of an oil change. Anyone that says otherwise is trying to rip you off.
@michaeladoue3391
@michaeladoue3391 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Danny. What is the name of the aftermarket warranty company? I can't find a good one.
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 2 жыл бұрын
Oh it was through CarMax.
@richrich685
@richrich685 Жыл бұрын
I own a 2013 crosstrek with 95k miles. Bought it at 40k. So far had to replace both rear wheel bearing, front ball joint, heated seat switch. Still running like a champ and slow as a potato. Knock on 🪵
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, good luck!
@AndrewLitton
@AndrewLitton 2 жыл бұрын
How’s she holding up? Any new issues after the video post?
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 2 жыл бұрын
It held up horrendously. We sold it to CarMax in Nov 2021 when it was approaching 150k miles. It began throwing codes two days before we planned on selling it.
@MarcelloTheBandit
@MarcelloTheBandit 2 жыл бұрын
Wait..... is that battery by chance an S46B24R? I have a friend wtih two prii that I've changed. Advance Auto has them for about $200-$250. IF you want to find one easier, it's a 12v battery for the 2008 Toyota Prius with the smart key access system.
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 2 жыл бұрын
The spare I bought was Duracell DUR-9A51P
@MarcelloTheBandit
@MarcelloTheBandit 2 жыл бұрын
@@DannyDrives ahhh ok. A Group 51 battery is the main option for a 4 cylinder Honda as well.
@megan2171
@megan2171 Жыл бұрын
UUuggghhh! I am trying to find the safest car for my daughter which brought me to this vehicle! So safe but crappy great!
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives Жыл бұрын
I will never buy again
@jr8472
@jr8472 4 жыл бұрын
Normally cars start to break down at 100t thats why they have warranty at that point
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 4 жыл бұрын
truth
@saintless
@saintless 7 ай бұрын
a bad bearing and another bad bearing due to the boot rotting away.. at over 100k. I don't think older cars are better, you've just been lucky. But, why wasn't your mechanic catching these things during PA inspection? I've had plenty of boots need replaced but it's usually caught before the grease washes away and the bearing itself fails. Anyway, appreciate the long term review on the hybrid!
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 7 ай бұрын
Guess it is all why I don't own a Subaru anymore nor will
@franimal007
@franimal007 3 жыл бұрын
Loosing start/stop is a good thing! Well on any gas car.
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 3 жыл бұрын
haha I agree, but not when it is a failure of something lol
@diaperdood1
@diaperdood1 2 жыл бұрын
Is it true you can leave the seatbelt on and leave the climate control on the whole night because it runs from the hybrid battery. And the engine comes on every hour to charge the hybrid battery for the climate control?
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 2 жыл бұрын
I have not tested it that way. I am not sure the real world application to do that.
@diaperdood1
@diaperdood1 2 жыл бұрын
@@DannyDrives look up Prius camping!
@ethanartis5092
@ethanartis5092 2 ай бұрын
What was it when you had the hybrid warning light problem … what did they replaced in order for it to be fixed ???
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 2 ай бұрын
"They" didn't replace anything I did it all. It was warnings telling me the aux battery was eating itself. The vehicle has 3x batteries. Normal sized car battery, a secondary aux battery like 3/4ths the size of the normal car battery, and the hybrid battery in the back.
@ethanartis5092
@ethanartis5092 2 ай бұрын
​@@DannyDrives I have a 2014 hybrid crosstrek and been trying to figure out what cause the hybrid light to come on … I have been reading Subaru Fourms and some say it’s the alternator and I thought so at first but I am beginning to suspect that it’s not the case because it has nothing to do with the hybrid system and alternator is giving out right voltage, and all three batteries appear to be fine. Then I read some other websites saying that it could be the inverter ??? The hybrid warning light tend to come on when the gas cut off at a stop or when car is slowing to a stop then when (EV) indicator pops up then the “hybrid warning light appears then the car barely move so it moved slowly on electric motor not at full power then it ask me to restart and it when back to normal again … so it starts problem when after that (EV) indicator appears on the dashboard …. I was wondering if you know any solutions if you had that similar problem ??? Or what I need to check and fix ???
@ethanartis5092
@ethanartis5092 2 ай бұрын
@@DannyDrives I have a 2014 hybrid crosstrek and been trying to figure out what cause the hybrid light to come on … I have been reading Subaru Fourms and some say it’s the alternator and I thought so at first but I am beginning to suspect that it’s not the case because it has nothing to do with the hybrid system and alternator is giving out right voltage, and all three batteries appear to be fine. Then I read some other websites saying that it could be the inverter ??? The hybrid warning light tend to come on when the gas cut off at a stop or when car is slowing to a stop then when (EV) indicator pops up then the “hybrid warning light appears then the car barely move so it moved slowly on electric motor not at full power then it ask me to restart and it when back to normal again … so it starts problem when after that (EV) indicator appears on the dashboard and when it’s been driven for a bit (it didn’t happen when I first drive it for the first time for the day so the (EV) and start- stop was fine) …. I was wondering if you know any solutions if you had that similar problem ??? Or what I need to check and fix ???
@joejustice9467
@joejustice9467 3 жыл бұрын
Danny, do you have the DuraCell Battery part number for the Crosstrek helper battery?
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 3 жыл бұрын
I assume by helper you mean the AUX battery. I put a Duracell DUR-9A51P in it.
@alvareza3
@alvareza3 9 ай бұрын
Any updates to this video. Do you still have it?
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 9 ай бұрын
Nah I sold it to CarMax in 2021 for a Toyota 4Runner.
@walkerneo
@walkerneo 4 ай бұрын
What year is this? We're looking at a 2019 phev
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 4 ай бұрын
2015
@user-oo5ev5nx8t
@user-oo5ev5nx8t 2 ай бұрын
I have a question for hybrid owners. I’m looking to buy a hybrid crosstrek to use for car camping. I’m wondering if I can park and sleep while using climate control. Can this be done? If so, would the engine automatically cycle off and on to maintain the battery?
@user-oo5ev5nx8t
@user-oo5ev5nx8t 2 ай бұрын
Mainly needing the AC as I live in the south and want to be able to sleep at night with the AC on.
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 2 ай бұрын
You would have to leave the car on.
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 2 ай бұрын
You would have to leave the car on.
@user-oo5ev5nx8t
@user-oo5ev5nx8t 2 ай бұрын
@@DannyDrives to clarify, when you say I’d need to leave the car on- are you saying the combustion engine needs to be running constantly to use the AC? Sorry, I’m not familiar with hybrids.
@AmperageY
@AmperageY 3 жыл бұрын
Wait the fan was at the lowest why didn't it engage start stop?
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 3 жыл бұрын
the mysteries of the Crosstrek! haha sometimes it works right sometimes it does not
@TheDennzio
@TheDennzio 2 жыл бұрын
“My fleet” gag
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 2 жыл бұрын
your problem is?
@jasonswift7098
@jasonswift7098 Жыл бұрын
The hybrid version of the XV/crosstrek is not worth it, only very minimal fuel economy gains out on the open highway fuel cycle (0.6lrs/100kms) $6000 more and the fuel tank is 15 litres less so you get less range per tank on a hybrid than a NA 2.0 non hybrid engine.
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives Жыл бұрын
If I recall it added 1 mpg for an over complicated system. If anything the performance gain was better than the mpg gain.
@jasonswift7098
@jasonswift7098 Жыл бұрын
@@DannyDrives there was no economy gain or hp gain.
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives Жыл бұрын
It was 1mpg and 40 horsepower for about 40 lbs of weight if I recall.
@diaperdood9369
@diaperdood9369 2 жыл бұрын
Does the ac run off they hybrid battery?
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 2 жыл бұрын
No, anytime I ran the AC it kicked the gas on. It might have ran on the battery for a little, but any serious blowing it would kick gas on.
@diaperdood9369
@diaperdood9369 2 жыл бұрын
@@DannyDrives what about leaving it on ready mode and leaving ac on
@noelmilleryoga5993
@noelmilleryoga5993 2 жыл бұрын
can we make this more concise? lol damn!
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 2 жыл бұрын
Concise version - Don't buy it.
@valentinsarmagal
@valentinsarmagal Жыл бұрын
man that was long winded, thanks for doing the video but maybe timestamps or chapters in the video would help find the content faster
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives Жыл бұрын
Thanks, this was very early in my content creation
@raziel630
@raziel630 2 жыл бұрын
my cmax has 202, 000 miles and no issues
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 2 жыл бұрын
you got lucky!
@raziel630
@raziel630 2 жыл бұрын
@@DannyDrives well new york city hybrid escapes easily go 300-400 thousand miles......
@michaelcrz1430
@michaelcrz1430 Жыл бұрын
Thinking of buying a 2015 Subaru Crosstrek XV Hybrid with 72k miles and trading my 2013 Toyota Prius V wagon with 87k miles. Do you think this is a good deal?
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives Жыл бұрын
I can never in good faith recommend this vehicle to anyone.
@michaelcrz1430
@michaelcrz1430 Жыл бұрын
@@DannyDrives Thanks for the reply, but why is that and a good reason? Is it a bad vehicle?
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives Жыл бұрын
Well in the video I tell you all the problems I had with it.
@michaelcrz1430
@michaelcrz1430 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info, with that said I will stay with my 2013 Prius V. Any recommendation for an AWD hybrid?
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives Жыл бұрын
At this point, I just am against hybrids. I don't want to recommend you any hybrid. Under warranty none of my problems matter, but after 30k miles, its all your problem.
@WitchTrials92
@WitchTrials92 4 жыл бұрын
How long is your wife's daily commute?
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 4 жыл бұрын
1 hr to 1 hr 30 min. 50+ miles each way.
@WitchTrials92
@WitchTrials92 4 жыл бұрын
Wow no wonder why you blasted through that warranty
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 4 жыл бұрын
Demolished the warranty mileage
@user-tl6mn2ij6u
@user-tl6mn2ij6u 6 ай бұрын
Up date your gps
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 6 ай бұрын
what do you mean?
@MrEdZareh
@MrEdZareh 3 жыл бұрын
Talking steering wheel makes a boring video
@DannyDrives
@DannyDrives 3 жыл бұрын
Better than my face
@diabeat4248
@diabeat4248 2 жыл бұрын
@@DannyDrives Now that's funny! Thanks for the honest eval (of the car that is). I am trying to decide whether to skip the hybrid or not. I would be looking at a 2022 model. It sounds like I should just stay with the gasoline version.
Amazing weight loss transformation !! 😱😱
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