Right? It's misleading.

Yeah its misleading this should be what are molly house's

@@Thenoobestgirl right.. i wanted to hear and learn about your genders life as working as a sex worker... lol

Yep and the comments were immediately filled with trolls mocking female sex workers as a result

Calling men "closeted" in this period is very inappropriate. The concept closeted can only exist in modern terms; there is an option now to live openly whereas back then there was not. The history of Molly houses are intrinsically tied to LGBTQ historyso there's nothing in this video that's misleading. Regardless of what class you were from, Molly houses were the only relative safe places to be openly homosexual.

i didn’t even notice until i read this!!!

I saw that art!! Lol they definitely would!

I saw that and started wheezing so hard I couldn’t breathe I love it so much

@@Terzos-olive-oil same!! I did a double take!

@@QueenCole89 same!!!!

I was today years old when I read this comment and found that out. 🤯

I'm confused but want to know the truth, tell me. Please 🙏. Edit : my comment makes me giggle 🤭 I could have just waited but I didn't

it just hit me watching this video and i’m 44

For those still confused, macaroni was a term for flamboyant accessories, such as stick on moles, objects in hair/hat (as in "...feather in his hat") and other fashion trends.

@@paulawendelken2714 Me too! And I had also asked as a child & no one seemed to know.

I KNEW it looked familiar. Thats it!

I saw it too and I had to pause and laugh for a sec.

Yes, in his "gentlemen's club" heehee

I dont even watch the show and I recognized it right away.

I thought of Harlots

HDHSJSYHSBS YES!

Yep Should be more like „how it was being LGBTQ in the 18th century“

yeah this is clickbait.

The title is still in the closet!!

You have to frigin kidding me! Same sex sexually has been going on FOREVER!

@@giselematthews7949 I think he meant it’s the first time he’s heard of molly houses.

@Gisele Matthews not surprised that you would misunderstand stand completely and then get mad at the commenter. It’s the norm nowadays for certain people.

@@giselematthews7949 so has bestiality and pedophiles so I don’t know what your point is here. They’re all wrong and should be completely outlawed

@@NotFckingBen so has curbstomping bigots in front of their children so they grow up to know better. not in favor of outlawing that, though.

Who the fuck is he? Why should I care?

No, no it would not at all! “Drag queens“ back during those times were men dressed up as women because women were not allowed to be in theatre. Had there ever been such a breakdown in society in the 18th century, there would’ve been a lot of heads rolling down Tower hill, and the better the world would have been for it.

@@laurasmith14 you need to google princess Seraphina from the 1700’s. The drag you’re referring too was in 1500’s during Shakespeare’s time. By then 1600’s women were permitted in theater. Also, gay men’s heads didn’t “roll” they were hanged after psycho king Henry 8th banned men being together. Tf you talking about the world being a better place for it, the first recorded homosexual was 2400 bc. They’ve always been around. The world would be better if your head rolled down Tower Hill.

This idea never occurred to me...now it's on my bucket list. 🥰

Watch Versailles

📷 📷 sus

Lol same

Believe it or not, there are plenty of living history events focused around representing Molly houses in the greater anglosphere! Not only does it include lgbtq, drag, and sex worker history, but typically other counterculture history such as underground fighting rings, gambling, subversive art and theater etc.

Me too!! I bet the costumes would be awesome!!!!❤️❤️❤️❤️

THIS honestly. I do Victorian/Old West, Edwardian, and Onnagata/Oyama drag. I really want to see this as a popular thing. Kept classy, historical, and realistic of course.

🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

Yes! And one on wakashu too.

@@FourbooFourboo-sy6oj omg yesss

I like Weird History, but kind of disingenuous to call the men who frequented 'Molly Houses" LGBTQ. They were men. Are we not allowed to say gay men anymore?

@@zenabby1 specifically I noted that the L and Q of LGBTQ weren’t alluded to very much

Places where men could socialize... Lol They were fucking too.... Don't be fooled..... Lol

@@zenabby1 I was thinking the exact same thing

@@bradrose15 Cuz they weren't acknowledged at the time...& it wasn't as easily prosecutable crime...."buggery" was on the books (in-law/illegal) while "L", as such, was not....i.e. less threatening to men...but yeah, still a difficult life, just not deemed as "worthy of death" by men & their weird fear of other penises...the irony....cuz, well, anyways...✋😂

I was just thinking of that song when he said it! LoL!! 😄

Yes.

Actaully.

🤯

There is a whole video about it on one of the history channels on KZfaq.

I mean he just using examples for what hes talking about

Get over yourself they obviously use images that are available, acceptable or what ever on KZfaq. Stuffed shirt or what.

I am no history professor, but I wonder that u haven’t stumbled over the many many inaccuracies, that occur again and again in ,,Weird History’s“ videos… especially as a fan of this channel…

Professor, most pictures are subject to copyright laws. I suspect they are using pictures available on public domain, or otherwise free of charge, or for a nominal fee. If they had a phenomenal or bloated budget, I feel certain they would upload the finest and most accurate pictures they could find. The banners are used to 'indicate' the era they are speaking of while the pictures are used to 'represent' that era. Generally speaking, this channel is made for children. I believe the viewers understand the story. The inquisitive mind would conduct their own research to verify anything published on KZfaq, particularly college students. I hope this information will help to ease your mind. PS But then again, since you already know the aforementioned, maybe you should download the pictures you spoke of and send them to WH. Wouldn't they be delighted! Everybody's a critic.

Agreed. Might as well be a podcast with glaringly inaccurate photos.

No need to keep copy pasting the same dumbshit comment. You're not special.

i hope they got credited

I'd also love to learn more about indigenous peoples from all over! Australian Aboriginal people especially, there's so little understanding about their culture

Funny how they liked so many other comment suggestions except this one 🤔🥴

I wouldn't mind some weird history about Shaka Zulu.

@@tatum635 HAHA

well then that would be too weird for white people UGH

Don’t u mean the LBG community... the T and Q etc have nothing what’s so ever to do with the homosexually ... as a gay man I am sick to the back teeth of being associated with the T and Q...

Who the fuck is he? Why should I care?

That would be ahistorical. "Gay" is a modern concept. Particular acts were described, and people committed those acts--but were not categorized as being . Except maybe Sodomites--though engaging in sodomitical behavior was not seen as an intrinsic status.

Yes brony, it's shit.

Time stamp?

@@twinqt578 3:32

HI KELS IM HERE FOR THAT TOO SDKJKFKSHSD

@@Andre-uu8qp LMAO

Sex workers aren’t just women, but people of all genders. Sex work history and lgbt+ history have been intertwined for hundreds of years.

@@alexiscaldera3793 Yeah, but it didn't sound like THESE men were sex workers though. Kind of sounded like they just wanted a safe space to hang out and were falsely labeled as sex workers. At least, that's what this video makes it sound like

It was actually the opposite. The song was written to mock Americans as crude bimbos/himbos.

I just asked this! I’m glad I found your comment!

You almost got it right, but A for enthusiasm!

I loved that "Something About Mary" movie! Wish I could find it to watch again.

😂😂

i'm gonna throw up how thefuck did they find that picture

Mind sharing a blurb? "Harlots" sounds interesting.

Love that show!

@@Atm0111 I love that show as well to bad it was canceled

@@ashleyprice9487 oh no didn't know that, thought they were on on long break due to the pandemic (｡•́︿•̀｡)

@@Atm0111 I thought that as well till I read article along time stating it was cancel

I knew someone was going to beat me to it! That absolutely has to be an Easter egg.

probably took some serious gaydar

Open secrets, I wager. Also, you may have confessed to "that weird guy down the block, who is a total molly!" Likely, there was also a bit of grooming going on...

What I'm about to mention is mostly based on how these things were in the Victorian Era, but I'm sure plenty of it was more or less the same a century prior since Molly Houses were still a thing in Victorian times, and homosexuality was still punished by the law (even after the death penalty for this type of "crime" was abolished) Back then, gay men had "secret gay codes" they implemented to their everyday life. You see how the average male fashion tended to be mostly sober and sometimes "dull" in colors and whatnot? Well, gay men (those who were more open or were looking for a partner or for more people "like them") used that to their advantage and would usually add some colorful accessories to their outfits. Think of adding a colorful feather on their hats, a bright tie, or even a colorful flower pinned to their lapels, and so on. Gay men would also use other forms of "secret communication", such as growing their hair long and keeping their faces as cleanly shaven as possible, as these two things were considered "feminine" by the standards of the time and thus were unacceptable for a man to sport (and, basically, an "open secret" to everyone, taking advantage of the fact that speaking openly about homosexuality was taboo and pretty much no one wanted to get caught even talking about such a "indecent" thing). Green color was also associated with homosexuality as, reportedly, it was deemed to be an "unnatural" color and, thus, the gay men of the time adopted it in a tongue in cheek way since they were also labelled as "unnatural" by society due to their orientation. In addition, they also used their own "coded language": Polari, which was slang/cant that was most commonly used by specific groups, most largely used by gay men. Using Polari, they could even exchange words between them in public without most people knowing what they were actually saying, with the advantage of pretending they were speaking some foreign language if they got caught. And, like someone else pointed out, open secrets, too! Most of the people who knew about Molly Houses learned about them from other gay men who already knew the place or the owner of said place. The same thing happened with gay men themselves, as all the "codes" I mentioned above were meant for them to easily spot each other out from unsuspecting "regular people" without putting them or their safety at risk.

Same lmfao I had to rewind just to make sure my eyes weren't making it up 💀

Time stamp?

@@littledudefromacrossthestr5755 Probably late, but 3:31

@@amiable_monster lol... Thank you!

I can't belive you've copy pasted another comment.

First thing I thought too

🤔😯😬🚶🏾‍♀️

Yes

It's not a whole series but alit of the clips in this video was used from Tom Hardy's Taboo. Very good and super weird show. That's where I learned about Molly Houses.

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You might enjoy Harlots on Hulu then. The last season has a Molly 🏠 house

@@Vaalie505 I would love to watch Harlots, unfortunately the original commenter and I live in New Zealand, Hulu doesn’t exist here.

¡congrats on 17, and many more!

They harm society as a whole. Ever hear of the Greeks? The Roman? Spartans? Wide acceptance of this was the start of their downfalls.

@@jonnnn7699 agreed!

@@jonnnn7699 I'm just going to use the Socratic method and ask: How does it harm society?

@@iwiffitthitotonacc4673 um I’ll make this super simple. Gender roles matter in society.

@@jonnnn7699 Why do they matter?

LOL! Nice One!

This video is poorly done. The picture they use for Thomas Newton is in fact a man of that name, but not the one they are talking about. They used a Bishop's picture.

I agree

maybe it was an attempt to straight-bait the people who would otherwise have not clicked on this vid

Two great minds!

3 great minds. Instantly i thought of little Richard

I’d imagine in both cases; hungry and scared.

I’ll meet you in the middle and also ask about daily life during the Bakumatsu period!

My grandmother never says anything in depth about that. She was a nurse in Naruto, JP during WWII. Didn't immigrate to Hawaii until 1958. My grandfather is a nisei(2nd gen Japanese American). They weren't sent to an internment camp since they lived in Hawaii and weren't prominent community leaders.

The Japanese people were well indoctrinated. They didn’t have food shortages as Somme comments suggest, but their lives were far from easy. At the end, the authorities handed out what weapons they could (including sharpened bamboo sticks) and told the civilians that if the Americans invaded, it was better to die defending your country than to live, because you would be raped and murdered by the savage GI’s. They trained people to dive under tanks with explosives 🧨. Things like that. And it was a totalitarian state at that time. Not to mention that virtually every city had been hombre to ruins. So life was prob not that great.

Society has certainly changed a lot but not enough, as evident in some of these comments. Plus gay men are generally more accepted than transgender people.

@@dinosaurasher because weirdos don’t use the concept of homosexuality to pretend to be women to beat them at sports competitions or enter women’s bathrooms and than get protected by any criticism because “muh Transphobia!!!”

@@Hiphop618 you straight up comment nothing but rude and arguably sexist things on this channel. get a life other than commenting on videos you evidently don’t enjoy watching 🤦🏼‍♀️

@@Hiphop618 Trans people have also existed for hundreds of years, and gender identity is separate from sexuality. You’re part of the problem.

I totally agree

LOL I said that out loud when I saw the notification.