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What Kentavious Caldwell-Pope brings to the Orlando Magic | Running it back again!
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Күн бұрынThe Orlando Magic reportedly agreed to a new contract with Kentavious Caldwell-Pope. What does the veteran wing bring to Orlando? It is a little bit more than just a better version of what they had. But KCP will undoubtedly fit right in.
The Magic were also busy Monday, reportedly bringing back Goga Bitadze and Gary Harris. Yep, it feels like the Magic are running it back again as they set up their future beyond.
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@dlowflorida Ай бұрын
Happy Goga got resigned not so much about Gary 😂
@Illhumbleyou Ай бұрын
I’m the opposite
@Enrico-hl8nu Ай бұрын
I liked the KCP addition, it looked promising, but it now looks like this is all we’ll be doing? We have not addressed the lack of playmaking, shot creation, rim protection and not enough the 3 point shooting. I am hoping a trade is looming, otherwise we are not much better than last year
@chirocket4791 Ай бұрын
A little surprised they resigned Gary Harris.
@apkdarter21 Ай бұрын
Him as a back up isn’t a bad thing
@lgsteelo2142 Ай бұрын
U stole my comment lol. I agree! Like why? I guess as long as he's NOT STARTING I'm happy. But prefer him off the team tbh.
@efrembolden7892 Ай бұрын
New casual speaking about Gary Harris but Gary Harris is the reason you were leading in the seven game against Cleveland because of his defense remember he was in foul trouble that's how Cleveland regained the lead when he went out the game when Pablo was tired and kept trying to bring the ball down the court he needed to give it to the guards
@orlandoadams1056 Ай бұрын
I like it overall.. we are a better team and our depth gives us nice trade opportunities
@orlandoadams1056 Ай бұрын
Orlando “stand pat” magic 🤷🏾♂️.. gotta love my team
@ultimatemagic2125 Ай бұрын
Your team just won 47 games and got better. Stop crying!
@noelramirez1551 Ай бұрын
@@ultimatemagic2125And what did that get us? Nothing, no star player came to join the team if we couldn't get star players to come in free agency during the Dwight days other than Lewis.... always the same crap of being complacent and our stars leaving.
@mrjonathank92 Ай бұрын
@@noelramirez1551 yall are so annoying. I guess every team besides Philly had a bad offseason bc the only star who moved was PG. Get a life
@noelramirez1551 Ай бұрын
@@mrjonathank92 lol IDC what other teams did or didn't do I'm talking about my team so now fans can't criticize their teams FOH
@mrjonathank92 Ай бұрын
@@noelramirez1551 you're not even being realistic you just want something to yell about
@TheAmazingDreamz Ай бұрын
I don’t agree with running it back, Gary Harris signing is questionable
@tcurry10 Ай бұрын
I agree!!! The team should be looking to add better players that are more reliable.
@SeanWilliams-ds3fl Ай бұрын
Shaq gone Dwight Howard gone Tracy mcgrady gone Paolo???? They better make a trade for a true point guard
@shinethelight897 Ай бұрын
If we kept Harris We should probably shouldn’t refer to kcp as the better version of Harris 😄maybe Gary don’t like that lol
@ImJovi Ай бұрын
Not sure if we really got that much better yesterday.. Especially after practically keeping the roster the same and not making the most out of our money!
@anthonythomas8813 Ай бұрын
But that’s all we gonna add first round exit again
@BMBM1997 Ай бұрын
Weltmen said in an interview that they'd be interested in trading for a disgruntled superstar. Maybe they're just waiting
@O.TownMagic Ай бұрын
The only disgruntled super star trade I see happening is us trading Paolo the way this is going
@DevinKraemer Ай бұрын
Let’s gooooooooo Orlandooooooooo Magic
@user-tr5ki2sl2d Ай бұрын
I been a season ticket holder for 10 years. The team did great last year but a with a healthy Celtics, knicks, pacers, Sixers , bucks, heat and cavs we are in trouble if we don’t pick up a Real shooter and play maker
@anthonythomas8813 Ай бұрын
And please do not use Boston as a example by Tatum and Brown stand together. Boston was trying to add pieces they added Kyrie. They drafted Marcus Smart every year to get better.
@stevec4189 Ай бұрын
phil the magic must be paying u.... this team had 50 million and just added a slightly better gary harris only to resign gary no show harris. paolo specifically asked for a pg and jeff welt-ass completely ignored his request instead of listening to his star player. (paolo own words i want to be an offensive hub not a pg) this off season is a massive failure point blank.. it seems like jeff thinks he smarter than everybody by completely ignoring paolos request.. done with this show grow some and call out the front office instead of praising and overhyping their minor moves.. magic also had a 18-31 record against teams .500 and over and these moves welt-ass made did nothing for this team to improve that
@noelramirez1551 Ай бұрын
Yes, thank you. People are on something if they think this was a smart move, and people wonder why we can't keep our players. This organization is a joke. same old story of being complacent, overpaying trash players, and being surprised when our star player leaves.
@anthonythomas8813 Ай бұрын
Everything you just said is true
@anthonythomas8813 Ай бұрын
@@noelramirez1551 everything you just said is true its just sad been a magic fan for over 32 years same old same old
@noelramirez1551 Ай бұрын
@@anthonythomas8813 Like this new front office. Jeff Weltman is obsessed with big guys that can't hit the broadside of a barn and is too much of a coward to make any splashy move. His only claim to fame is drafting Giannis for Milwaukee, and now he thinks he knows better than everyone.
@anthonythomas8813 Ай бұрын
@@noelramirez1551 I second everything you just said is so frustrating. We got these delusional fans that think he’s doing such a great job.
@danielhicks4040 Ай бұрын
I can’t believe this organization punked out again and did nothing. The fans deserve better. Paolo deserves better. He asked for a PG and we gave him six guards…none of which can play point. This is a joke and fans should be furious
@clearcards3755 Ай бұрын
I’ll give you the defensive upgrade even though he still can’t shut down Cole 😉 But I have my doubts on this being an offensive upgrade. Gary was far more productive in Denver too. Very possible Mosley can’t get him anymore than the 8 attempts he already gets and they won’t be as quality as the looks he got the with Jokic effect. It’s very easy to envision this starting backcourt failing to put up 20 points combined on most nights again. Meanwhile their defense will be eye appealing but somehow Donovan Mitchell will still be able to get 50 on them if he really needs to. Plenty of star guards still got their 30 on Orlando this year. Ultimately this could exasperate the problems with Mosley and cost you far more games than it wins. There’s no way he doesn’t close with a $22 million player. So that means fewer games that Cole Anthony wins for you by bringing you back and closing the game (see Denver the last 2 years) and more games like the 118-114 loss in Milwaukee where Mosley pulls a +16 18 points 11 rebs 6 ast 2 stl 0 turnover Cole only to have Gary Harris foul Dame on back to back 3 pt attempts.
@SeanWilliams-ds3fl Ай бұрын
Ji an extension 27 mil to someone who can only play 10 minutes a game
@Mondomagik26 Ай бұрын
I mean, would you rather have OG for 40Mil and he plays 16 mins a game? Keeping JI and resigning him and a less than 25mil number is a sneaking good move.. especially since they have enough bodies here he isn’t a starter
@SeanWilliams-ds3fl Ай бұрын
It's other guys that can help and play more than 10 minutes seems like they'd reduce his pay not add to it smh
@SeanWilliams-ds3fl Ай бұрын
Wt does og has to do with ji or the magic cause the Knicks stupid we should be to
@SeanWilliams-ds3fl Ай бұрын
The beginning of the season Harris came off the bench and the results were the same
@anthonythomas8813 Ай бұрын
Facts
@SeanWilliams-ds3fl Ай бұрын
So basically they just added 4 points the 4 that Pope average more than Harris and we wonder why we can't keep no stars
@ultimatemagic2125 Ай бұрын
Dont like it, fuck off and support another team.
@ShawnBayyyyy Ай бұрын
This is a bit silly. But I see how you came to that. Here’s a few things to consider. The front office obviously thinks if we had kcp and Gary we beat the Cavs. Kcp has a history of consistent clutch play on both sides of the ball in the playoffs 22 million for a starter is extremely cheap for a contender which we will be by next season Kcp could easily go up to 15-17 points per game with the additional opportunities he’ll have in Orlando.
@noelramirez1551 Ай бұрын
Yea, I hate everyone defending paying KCP all that money. This is why we'll never win a championship or keep star players.
@anthonythomas8813 Ай бұрын
That’s a fact is sad and frustrating
@KalopsiaMyth Ай бұрын
You’re not taking into consideration the space a good shooter can create for guys like Paolo, Jalen, and Franz. With your thinking, Steph curry is only 4 points better than Paolo Banchero. Consider the gravity a shooter creates.
@anthonythomas8813 Ай бұрын
Everybody keeps saying he’s a great piece not saying he’s not a good player. KCP defense was a problem last year scoring was another creator that something he don’t add he can shoot again I’m just fan. Very frustrating
@MK3504 Ай бұрын
Gary Harris effectively pushes AB/Jett out of rotation. Fail
@KalopsiaMyth Ай бұрын
Or he’s a 13-14th man, and Jett and AB push HIM out of the rotation.
@efrembolden7892 Ай бұрын
Honestly that position can never make us stronger because we have two ball hoges they always have to defer in that position, shooters have to get enough reps to start hitting shots
@efrembolden7892 Ай бұрын
That's because Gary Harrison is a better defender by far
@MK3504 Ай бұрын
@@efrembolden7892 AB is already a better defender than GH. GH relies on gambling for steals, often out of position.
@efrembolden7892 Ай бұрын
Pablo gave that game away against Cleveland he started to play LeBron James basketball PowerPoint forward Pablo eliminated his own point guard
@Tresdad09 Ай бұрын
I like Gary as a backup wing. I think he's overhated. But bringing back the same 47-win team that lost in the 1st rd is complacency, pure and simple.
@orlandoadams1056 Ай бұрын
Dell is better than hartenstein
@danielhicks4040 Ай бұрын
Who do we think is this big fish is?
@LockedOnMagic Ай бұрын
Don't know. It's the NBA. Things change really quickly. Just have to be ready when opportunity arises.
@andrew.c123 Ай бұрын
3rd most cap and we get kcp 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@anthonythomas8813 Ай бұрын
I guess they look at it as a team sport we got better as a team, but I’m with you😂😂😂
@andrew.c123 Ай бұрын
@@anthonythomas8813 adding to your team should be the number 1 goal.
@anthonythomas8813 Ай бұрын
@@andrew.c123 factsss
@andrew.c123 Ай бұрын
@anthonythomas8813 I agree we can't make moves just to make moves but come on the 3rd most cap and kcp is ok but we need playmaker and shooting imo
@anthonythomas8813 Ай бұрын
@@andrew.c123 we are dressed as shooting, but the playmaking I guess they banking on the development of our two young stars. It’s the only thing I could think of.
@Brian00007 Ай бұрын
Leave it to the magic to once again make a splash free agency..... sike
@danielhicks4040 Ай бұрын
You understand other teams in the East got way better right? Lol
@anthonythomas8813 Ай бұрын
Exactly, New York Knicks, Philadelphia Boston, is still Boston I guess they’re banking on our young talent to develop. Guess we gotta be patient but I’m with you.
@LockedOnMagic Ай бұрын
I think the Magic got better too.
@danielhicks4040 Ай бұрын
@@LockedOnMagic well yeah we lose Kelle and Ingles and replace with KCP and Da Silva. So we’re incrementally better. Meanwhile other contenders got better
@devantejones10 Ай бұрын
He didnt do anything in the playoffs for denver
@anthonythomas8813 Ай бұрын
You or Jeff haven’t been magic fan for three decades so two playoff appearance🤦🏿
@LockedOnMagic Ай бұрын
Been a Magic fan all my life. Still work to do no doubt. I think the team is better set up to make that big trade. Like I said, the goal this summer was set the chess board for the big trade. I think they did that.
@orlandoadams1056 Ай бұрын
@@LockedOnMagic I agree.. we did what was necessary to get better and kept our leverage for a big move
@anthonythomas8813 Ай бұрын
@@LockedOnMagic what big trade that’s not aged out?
@anthonythomas8813 Ай бұрын
@@orlandoadams1056 what big trade that’s not aged out
@orlandoadams1056 Ай бұрын
@@anthonythomas8813 not sure but hopeful something will transpire by the trade deadline
@richardcoords1610 Ай бұрын
We had 50M in cap space for free agency, but aging George Paul and Klay Thompson were not the answers. KCP was. So, kudos to the front office for remaining disciplined. The Magic need Prime Shaq. We don't have enough physicality, and WCJ gives inconsistent effort. I love JI and Moe Wagner, and even Goga, but that's the weak spot. The key to the Magic's ceiling is the development of the young stars, Anthony Black, Jett Howard and Tristan Da Silva. Suggs has already developed, and this team is at least an 8th seed. Let's see where this goes.
@danielhicks4040 Ай бұрын
Running it back again should’ve never been an option!!! We ran it back after the trade deadline. This is such a Mickey Mouse organization. Fukin pathetic
@danielhicks4040 Ай бұрын
Running it back should have never been an option this summer. Pathetic! This is such a Mickey Mouse organization
@apkdarter21 Ай бұрын
Let’s be real.. the Magic was one of the only teams to stomp the Celtics during the regular season. You can always be a Sacramento Queens fan lol
@danielhicks4040 Ай бұрын
@@apkdarter21 actually I’ll just continue being a fan like I have for 35 years and expressing my opinion my guy
@LockedOnMagic Ай бұрын
I don't know what the move you wanted them to pursue was. Dejounte Murray? Is that the guy you wanted to spend the first round picks on? Team is still in a good place. They improved, just didn't make a clear leap through acquisitions.
@danielhicks4040 Ай бұрын
@@LockedOnMagic any move that didn’t include running it back really. We ran it back last year and should have done something with Harris and Kelle at the deadline. There’s zero chance Harris should be here. We just signed his replacement and demoted him
@brianfuchs6901 Ай бұрын
Love KCP but the magic did not get better. THEY NEED A CENTER !!
@efrembolden7892 Ай бұрын
Make that makes sense Orlando's got one of the best center groups in the NBA
@LockedOnMagic Ай бұрын
Did you want to pay Hartenstein $30m per year with Franz, Suggs and Paolo due $30m contracts in the next two years?
@brianfuchs6901 Ай бұрын
@@efrembolden7892 lmaoooo you're delusional
@brianfuchs6901 Ай бұрын
@@LockedOnMagic yes absolutely. Am I the only one who realizes how bad Carter played in the playoffs?
@brianfuchs6901 Ай бұрын
Shut up about the culture already. The culture is losing with injured players
@LockedOnMagic Ай бұрын
They just won 47 games... But my concern is that things go stale with the same group. You need to mix things up occasionally to force players to grow. We are at that point one way or another (even though I think they start the year with this group).
@brianfuchs6901 Ай бұрын
@LockedOnMagic imagine how many games they would of won with a Cand PG
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