What Kind of Idiot Would Baton a Knife?

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If you baton a knife are you an idiot? Apparently, some people think so. Here's my rant, I mean response, to the question.
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@Lkonae
@Lkonae 8 жыл бұрын
What kind of idiot doesn't test an item out to it's fullest when reviewing it?
@thejosuchav
@thejosuchav 8 жыл бұрын
I second this. also, manufacturers who are worth it will claim to do that anyway, and most of them do stress test the crap out of their gear. it's their reviewer's responsibility to hold them to it.
@dragonslayer1483
@dragonslayer1483 8 жыл бұрын
+Josue Chavarria benchmade does this in the stress test video for the barrage themselves
@MrAjusog
@MrAjusog 8 жыл бұрын
+dragonslayer1483 3rd party review is only ones that are valid, like the people doing reviiews or consumer magazine. A company doing a test of its own product isnt valid especially if done with a sales and marketing spin of half-truth and over-emphasis on mediocre features.
@dragonslayer1483
@dragonslayer1483 8 жыл бұрын
AJ Usog if you watch the video you sould see it isnt fake or isnt boasting anything unplausible
@brianmccann666
@brianmccann666 8 жыл бұрын
A good larger knife should be able to baton in emergencies at least. If it can't, its a crappy blade you don't want to trust your life with to begin with.
@DavidCanterbury
@DavidCanterbury 9 жыл бұрын
Here is my opinion for what it's worth, If you have to baton a knife it should be capable as long as you understand any weaknesses in the design. You should only Baton in an Emergency unless you are carrying a Large knife for processing wood, and anybody who says different is only lying to themselves. Your Logic for having only a knife is a fact and if someone says your wrong, again they are lying to themselves-Good Job
@SurvivalOnPurpose
@SurvivalOnPurpose 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave. I am amazed at the lever of emotion this subject brings out.
@rideforrestride
@rideforrestride 9 жыл бұрын
I really like your style!
@ernestchaffins1916
@ernestchaffins1916 9 жыл бұрын
I have always liked your channel and Schrade and Case are my most favorite knives and I've noticed that you do allot of reviews on Schrade knives and I appreciate that, an although I know batonning wood with a knife is like a last resort option its good to know that the knife your reviewing can stand up to such tests. Thanks for what you do.
@anotherluckydad
@anotherluckydad 9 жыл бұрын
This idiot would baton a knife. Sometimes the best tool for the job, is the one your holding. Besides batonning a small piece of wood/timber is 1/2 the effort, twice as safe. If your knife breaks, then I'd say you never realy had a knfe. J.M.P.O.
@bowdrillaz
@bowdrillaz 9 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good job youre doing mate! No fun when the haters show up, gives a bad taste.
@zM00Nx
@zM00Nx 7 жыл бұрын
A knife is a lot better at being an axe, than an axe is at being a knife. That is why the axe gets to stay home from work sometimes and the knife never gets a day off.
@SurvivalOnPurpose
@SurvivalOnPurpose 7 жыл бұрын
+x Moon indeed
@deanonta4510
@deanonta4510 6 жыл бұрын
Very true
@dougjohnsonbushcraftandbjj5561
@dougjohnsonbushcraftandbjj5561 6 жыл бұрын
I would like to imagine I could use my axe for anything I would need my knife for though.
@marcwilson9909
@marcwilson9909 6 жыл бұрын
x Moon well said
@dan5087
@dan5087 6 жыл бұрын
Well said
@tiendaforense
@tiendaforense 3 жыл бұрын
Brian, as usual you are a perfect gentleman. Actually, the batoning part of your tests is what I like the most since it truly shows what the knife can resist.
@BixbyConsequence
@BixbyConsequence 7 жыл бұрын
"I don't care what anything was *designed* to do. I care about what it *CAN* do!" - Gene Krantz, "Apollo 13"
@j.v.s.w.6053
@j.v.s.w.6053 7 жыл бұрын
BixbyConsequence and didn t that go well .....
@jeffstanley4593
@jeffstanley4593 7 жыл бұрын
When you think about it, it went real well as they used stuff that was not designed for what it was ultimately used for and succeeded. It was the stuff used as designed that failed.
@BixbyConsequence
@BixbyConsequence 7 жыл бұрын
You're absolutely right. It went well indeed. They used the LM for tasks to which it wasn't designed and brought the crew home safely.
@scottm5972
@scottm5972 7 жыл бұрын
Jeff Stanley Thank God for "Yankee Ingenuity" :)
@thomaswhite3810
@thomaswhite3810 7 жыл бұрын
BixbyConsequence TRUE
@Cryptonymicus
@Cryptonymicus 7 жыл бұрын
The real experts are not sitting around posting obnoxious comments on KZfaq videos.
@SurvivalOnPurpose
@SurvivalOnPurpose 7 жыл бұрын
True
@robertdunham5684
@robertdunham5684 3 жыл бұрын
This is actually the first video I've watched of yours, and this video alone gains you this subscriber. You just keep surviving on purpose,
@SurvivalOnPurpose
@SurvivalOnPurpose 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Robert
@joethegeographer
@joethegeographer 3 жыл бұрын
Same here.
@chargerairsoft
@chargerairsoft 2 жыл бұрын
For real
@travismacaluso2957
@travismacaluso2957 2 жыл бұрын
I've been watching him for years and he does a great job on teaching the masses skills they don't have, and gear they probably should. I just subscribed to another channel the first time I watched, because of a well placed rant as well. Keep on keepin on Survival on Purpose!
@JustusScottJr
@JustusScottJr 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you showing what the knife CAN do, even if it's not what it's designed to do. Batoning is a well-known technique that people use for a number of reasons. Even if you're not in a life or death survival situation, and just in an "I forgot my axe" or "my axe is broken" and "I don't want to have to go to the hardware store in the middle of a camping trip" situation, it's nice to see what the capabilities of the knives are, just in case. In MANY review videos, people put products under EXTREME testing that show the apex of functionality even though those products will never be tested to that level in MOST cases. Just keep doing what you're doing and don't let the trolls get to you. An intelligent person can offer a critique without resorting to being obnoxious. Don't feed the trolls. Showing the trolls they bother you is the only thing that keeps their sad existence worth living.
@shade38211
@shade38211 7 жыл бұрын
Paratrooper , never carried an axe anywhere, would be great if u could carry a chainsaw and gas. By baton, I guess u mean , hitting back of blade? Those that don't know, this is exactly how you split bones or ribs on game. Just make sure you use hardwood , not a rock to do it.
@ImprovisedSurvival
@ImprovisedSurvival 7 жыл бұрын
I learned the hard way not to use a rock. My favorite Buck knife shattered when I was too lazy to grab my batoning branch and instead tried a nice piece of granite that was close. oops
@jessed1586
@jessed1586 7 жыл бұрын
Yep. Green wood too is preferable.
@Joxman2k
@Joxman2k 7 жыл бұрын
Batoning is a legitimate use for a knife. I wouldn't process large wood with it, but I do it all the time and have enough skill to not damage my knife. If a knife can't handle batoning it is worthless.
@Joxman2k
@Joxman2k 7 жыл бұрын
Robert Schmidt I didn't realize this was a cooking channel. Sorry my mistake. BTW if any of those expensive knives can't handle batoning then they are poorly constructed. I have batoned with a filet knife in an emergency and it worked.
@Joxman2k
@Joxman2k 7 жыл бұрын
Robert Schmidt WTF are you talking about? How old are you? If a knife breaks batoning wood it is a crap knife in my opinion. When did I ever say don't use a knife as a knife?
@Joxman2k
@Joxman2k 7 жыл бұрын
Robert Schmidt Well I have batoned with a folder before and it didn't break because I know how to baton properly. I would not go out into the woods with a knife that I think will break batoning wood. So you are focused on the word "worthless". Fine. A knife that can break easily by batoning wood is a very valuable piece of equipment. You are absolutely right. I being an idiot would throw the knife away in a survival situation, because it might break. Your supreme logic and wit has broken my will. I succumb to your superior logic and retract my original position that the knife is worthless. Please accept my sincerest apologies for even offering my meager opinion on youtube. :P
@Joxman2k
@Joxman2k 7 жыл бұрын
Ricardo Harp Thank you. I thought I entered an alternate reality with this Troll.
@IPfreely333
@IPfreely333 7 жыл бұрын
im a cook by profession, and i felt like his comments made us all look bad... lol
@coffee_carry
@coffee_carry Жыл бұрын
Now, after watching your entire video, I have to say: I couldn’t agree with you more on every word you said! The most logical “rant” one could possibly put forth!! You are a class act! I discovered your channel a couple months ago and subscribed after 3 videos and I watch more every time I come across one. If I ever had the chance to hang out with you and chat about outdoorsy things and do camp chores, I would jump at the opportunity! Your videos are practical, succinct and enjoyable! Never let the snobby, lazy trolls slow your roll! Keep up the great work!! Thank you for what you do! I thoroughly enjoy it! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@villeqq4789
@villeqq4789 4 жыл бұрын
I don't carry an axe I carry a light knife. I baton with it because it's hard to split wood with my teeth.
@ericyoung2136
@ericyoung2136 3 жыл бұрын
Why don't you carry a hatchet?
@Reallybigmonkey1
@Reallybigmonkey1 7 жыл бұрын
Took me awhile to get to this one but man very well stated. The best advice on battoning is what you said if it big, use an axe. If its too small for an axe or fie work baton a knife. What a lot of folks on here fail to understand that battoning a knife is also needed in a lot of notches and joints for shelter frame work, beds and some dead falls.
@SurvivalOnPurpose
@SurvivalOnPurpose 7 жыл бұрын
So true David. And you are the king of that sort of thing. I appreciate your taking time to watch my silly video.
@tikkidaddy
@tikkidaddy 6 жыл бұрын
It has it's place, and RBM1 KNOWS where that is!
@hawkknight4564
@hawkknight4564 3 жыл бұрын
David I love you. I’ve been watching your channel for years you’re awesome. God bless you. Hope you and your son are doing well.
@joshbreeze1865
@joshbreeze1865 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you got that FLEM off your chest, keep making your videos. The haters can make a baton and go pound sand!
@SiFiFreak
@SiFiFreak 2 жыл бұрын
I'm looking for fixed blade. I'm thinking that I would like to find something that is ok at batting but great at other bushcraft. Exactly what you said. I have almost hurt myself more trying to process kindling with a hatchet or axe than splitting larger firewood. In fact the only decent camp injury has been with a hatchet where my brother was trying to get small kindling with a hatchet and did something admittedly foolish and hit himself with the hatchet. I think that a knife would be safer for kindling for the more control. Delimbing I'd use an axe or hatchet hands down.
@dennisjones9044
@dennisjones9044 7 жыл бұрын
If you carry an axe with you every where you go you are a Viking
@SurvivalOnPurpose
@SurvivalOnPurpose 7 жыл бұрын
and nobody calls a Viking an idiot but once.
@jacobsalcido6466
@jacobsalcido6466 7 жыл бұрын
Survival On Purpose Pshh. Then explain why Vikings are extinct.
@nickcasolino8903
@nickcasolino8903 7 жыл бұрын
Vikings are not extinct. They have changed their way of life. Sweden is the Vikings' generation.
@mikeg3990
@mikeg3990 7 жыл бұрын
you got ale?
@Diego-k4u
@Diego-k4u 7 жыл бұрын
muslim vikings
@ROE1300
@ROE1300 3 жыл бұрын
Bryan, even when you “rant” you do it as a gentleman. I was searching a topic and came across this old video. First, while people can and probably should disagree the discussions should always be civil. My experience is that the more volatile or abusive someone gets in arguing their case the less solid ground they are on. There is never an excuse/reason for foul language. Most likely your idea of a “normal” knife differs from mine. I like my blades to be 3-1/2” to 4” long with a thickness of 1/8” or less and a full length stick tang is just fine. With this size knife the batoning effectiveness is limited. Plus, I believe knives are made to cut and slice, they are not splitting mauls or pry bars. However, in your testing I completely understand why you baton and chop with blades not necessarily designed for that purpose. In an emergency out of the ordinary tasks may become necessary. At the risk of being placed in your “Paul Bunyan” category (😀) I am thinking about a system that involves a Victorinox SAK in my pocket and a small hatchet on my belt. Foregoing a fixed blade belt knife all together. With practice I believe a skilled person can do anything with a small axe or hatchet that they can do with a belt knife -- important words “practice” and “skilled”. I am not there yet. Thank you for your videos. Most of the time we agree and when we do not I respect your right to be wrong. 😂😂😂 Actually many of your videos have inspired me to try some of the gear you have tested. Take care.
@AV4Him
@AV4Him 3 жыл бұрын
Whoever said you must use an axe to make firewood has Never been backpacking! Who's going to carry a heavy axe into the back country? No, you carry a knife. The more multi-purpose a tool can be, the more merit it has to carry on a backpack! Thanks for showing how to Barton with a knife!
@BrentonCarr
@BrentonCarr 8 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you baton the knives. it's a test of a knifes strength and edge retention. thank you for doing it so I know a knife I choose can take it. I realize you don't baton everything you see in a real life situation :) good job
@mactagg8814
@mactagg8814 7 жыл бұрын
+Sandor Althof The great thing about living is you can choose your way and others can choose their own way. Some people cook with lard and some with vegetable oil and there are some that cant cook without their microwave. if i want to baton my knife then i surely will. you choose to not, that choice is yours. Cheers mate.
@BrentonCarr
@BrentonCarr 7 жыл бұрын
+Sandor Althof, sure it is. for example. viewers might like to know that a knife with no secondary bevel, such as a Mora will likely roll the edge if you baton with it. I'm glad that you-tubers like Survival on Purpose do tests like this. It tells you something about a knife you may not want to learn first hand.
@BrentonCarr
@BrentonCarr 7 жыл бұрын
Sandor Althof I think you are missing the point...lol. you should re-read my posts...
@Jim-si7wz
@Jim-si7wz 7 жыл бұрын
I think you are missing the point if you swore while writing anything it should be in a story book, swearing is a sign of a really small vocabulary and yes I swear but thats because I am still learning big words and I am an author, I however never swear while writing unless the character I am writing about swears, LOL.
@perfectlyflawed3061
@perfectlyflawed3061 7 жыл бұрын
Sandor Althof , You may be one of those people that walks around with 4 knives and 6 axes along with a full arsenal of weapons including a grenade launcher, but for the common man, we would like to know that if we're ever in a situation where we don't have an axe or a butterknife, that the knife that we are carrying in everyday real life can take a beating and stay sharp. This is most likely why you DO NOT have your own survival channel. Nobody would listen to someone as cocky as you who obviously already knows everything. For the people that enjoy these videos, he's doing an awesome job. Where as trolls like you just like to pretend you know the only right way to do anything. If you don't like the videos, don't watch them or comment. Judging by the comments you've left thus far, you're also extremely immature. Enjoy your Rambo lifestyle over in Never Never Land.
@whatsreallygoingon253
@whatsreallygoingon253 7 жыл бұрын
you may not have a axe with u in a survival situation
@SurvivalOnPurpose
@SurvivalOnPurpose 7 жыл бұрын
yep
@peterbeefchicken5237
@peterbeefchicken5237 7 жыл бұрын
Learn karate. That's the perfect solution!
@whatsreallygoingon253
@whatsreallygoingon253 7 жыл бұрын
Survival On Purpose you need to know your knife is capable of doing the job
@vinylpop
@vinylpop 7 жыл бұрын
violenthauntingsanddemonic attacksurvivors stop making sense please. Makes it hard to argue with you.
@whatsreallygoingon253
@whatsreallygoingon253 7 жыл бұрын
Ballhead_Slick i know right cause logic isnt pc these days lol
@johnnieuber47
@johnnieuber47 Жыл бұрын
I spent 4 years in U.S. Marine Corps Aviation, 20 years in the U. S. Army Intelligence Corps and 21 years in the NC Forest Service. I have experienced many Survival Courses and Survival Situations. I even taught Wilderness Survival Courses to various age groups in and out of services and since retiring. I just want you to know … “There Are No Experts Out There ! I have enjoyed you and your KZfaq channel for many years now. I have learned a lot from you and about the products you have tested ! ……. Drive On Brother !
@shawnpahl
@shawnpahl 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t feed the trolls bro! Love your content. I’m following
@PlayaSinNombre
@PlayaSinNombre 3 жыл бұрын
But always monetize the haters!
@robpaq4191
@robpaq4191 7 жыл бұрын
Do what you want, you're not causing harm to anyone else, more power to you. You are gaining real experience along the way. If people were not trying new things, we would still be slinging stones at our food
@peterbeefchicken5237
@peterbeefchicken5237 7 жыл бұрын
Slinging stones at trolls would be great tho ;)
@TheLonsfella
@TheLonsfella 7 жыл бұрын
the profanity catching spam filter is working well NOT lol
@rich1051414
@rich1051414 8 жыл бұрын
Don't apologize. Any tool needs to tested BEYOND their intended purpose if they hope to be trusted to withstand their intended purpose.
@nomenemo2921
@nomenemo2921 8 жыл бұрын
but a real survival knife is made to be multitasking and one of his intended purposes is to chop and to be batoned. so in this case we still are inside and not beyond, in a test of such a kind of knife.
@rich1051414
@rich1051414 8 жыл бұрын
nome nemo That is an opinion, making the knife durable enough for anyone is a legit test.
@p.e.i.man-canada-1372
@p.e.i.man-canada-1372 8 жыл бұрын
It still needs to be tested beyond its intended purpose.
@tomkilty3192
@tomkilty3192 5 жыл бұрын
You just keep doing what you’re doing because you’re doing a great job!
@harrisonsizemoreiv1991
@harrisonsizemoreiv1991 3 жыл бұрын
I agree I am way more likely to have my esee5 on me versus an ax or hatchet. Keep going none of us are experts we constantly learn new and better ways . We also teach others . Thank you fir channel
@donkinney3658
@donkinney3658 3 жыл бұрын
You have earned my respect. Don't let anyone "push your buttons." Especially some anonymous, know it all, key board commandos.
@timlafontaine4100
@timlafontaine4100 8 жыл бұрын
You'd have to be a noob to think a knife can't baton
@forestinpeace265
@forestinpeace265 8 жыл бұрын
+Barry McCociner Why? Because it´s an easier and safer technik so that even a noob can use it? And what kind of noob? You sound like an expert. Then please bring light in the dark and explain how and why u split wood better without ur knife when u didnt have any other tool with u? I´m curious. How would u do it?
@forestinpeace265
@forestinpeace265 8 жыл бұрын
Hi! First of all thx for ur answer. "Expert" because if u callin someone a noob of doing something its normally because u have a better technique in expert stile. That was my interpretation of ur comment. KZfaq sensationalism can be but why not if its a nice technique? I need to split wood with my knive because of the same reasons u would do it with an axe or another tool. The "need" is the same. I had the need often in the past, especially when i´m in the forest and it was very wet. Splitting the wood allows me to getting into the dry section of the inside, to say only one reason. I often dont want to carry an axe with me because of the weight and size. If i find a better technique so i dont have to use my knife i would be more than happy, but maybe u can help me with this ;)?Barry McCociner
@forestinpeace265
@forestinpeace265 8 жыл бұрын
Barry McCociner Esee does and Kabar exchanges a knive because of batoning damage (Spartan Johns Channel) and a lot more will do because its steel against wood.So why not? When u use Opinel or Victorinox sure don´t do this because its a high risk to brake it. Looking for some covered wood is a good advice but didnt u think i did? No idea where u live but here in winter are some areas u didnt find any dry spots. If i can avoid work, i will, believe me ;). Especially when i want to have a warm fire quickly. I agree when u mean that prepearing all the time for a emergency that never comes is sometimes strange, and shtf videos are sometimes a bit over the top, but batoning with the RIGHT knive is fun also. It works really good and the knive isnt really in danger when u do it right. If u want to carry an Axe with u all the time, do it. I like to work with my axes a lot and i can understand that absolutely. But I dont wanna carry them all the time and i had some situations, batoning was for me the best thing to do. Believe it or not. Why should i buy a full tang outdoor knive that isnt able to baton when there are so much out there u can use for that? I accept ur opinion and i hope i could explain my one. Have a good Time, greetings from Europe.
@forestinpeace265
@forestinpeace265 8 жыл бұрын
bryan carter Hi! Absolutely!! Especially tryin to brake the esee 5 will be hard work. And it will need far more than batoning to do this i think :).
@bryan1986carter
@bryan1986carter 8 жыл бұрын
+FoRestInPeace I feel as though this Berry McTroll doesn't go outside much quoting movies from the 90's that were written to show the characters lack of experience in the world...
@gibotrebsllarena1644
@gibotrebsllarena1644 9 жыл бұрын
more power to your channel, chief! i'm from the philippines and for most of the communities here using firewood for everyday cooking and heating, bolos or machetes which are really just larger knives are being used to process firewood and yes, batoning is part of it. for small back-country and mountain communities, steel is kind of expensive and axe heads aren't readily available for the local smiths. my family's got axes but batoning with knives happen to be one of the skills passed on since its one of the most common tools available. thanks for posting! great vid!
@joeblow-me6ub
@joeblow-me6ub 11 ай бұрын
In a true survival situation no one splits wood. It's way to time consuming and energy intensive. Anytime you go into the wild a knife and fire starter are a must have, everything else is a luxury
@tonyvorhis760
@tonyvorhis760 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to make these videos. Expert or not knowledge is power that needs to be passed on to the next one willing to learn. I have learned a lot and practiced to get it right, but wouldn't have known where to start if it wasn't for people like you.so thank you again and keep up the amazing work!
@SurvivalOnPurpose
@SurvivalOnPurpose 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking time to watch
@rickd248
@rickd248 7 жыл бұрын
Do you happen to remember the old Buck Knife Logo? Buck used to demonstrate their knives by pounding them through a 1/4" black carriage bolt. That was also the logo on their box for years and years. This was as of 40 years ago. My Buck General is over 50 years old and has served me faithfully for that time and it will be passed on when I finally pass on. So pounding a knife through a log is a test. I remember a night years ago when my wife and I were in a cabin for the night. An unexpected winter storm hit us and the only thing I had to split logs with was my survival knife. That night it proved it was up to the task at hand as I split log after log so we wouldn't freeze. I still carry that same knife. I wouldn't leave home without it. So keep on splitting and don't pay any attention to these people.
@SurvivalOnPurpose
@SurvivalOnPurpose 7 жыл бұрын
Cool story
@dougb5324
@dougb5324 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, easy. You quickly light up whole logs just for fun, do you, Orlando? Don't want to scratch up your pretty knife by actually using it?
@seanb6986
@seanb6986 6 жыл бұрын
‘MURICA!
@keithcronk7980
@keithcronk7980 6 жыл бұрын
DARN RIGHT.
@keithcronk7980
@keithcronk7980 6 жыл бұрын
Orlando Pockets BE NICE.
@NCLUSA
@NCLUSA 7 жыл бұрын
Sometimes a man uses the tool he has at hand, sometimes I use my channel locks (or Linemans) as a hammer if I don't have a hammer handy. I call people idiots when they deserve to be called such, but calling someone an idiot because they are using a tool for another purpose than what it was designed for is really out of line. Don't let the little people get you down (:
@spreston2356
@spreston2356 7 жыл бұрын
lineman's pliers are made as a staple hammer. channel locks are not intended as a hammer. side cutters are made to pull staples. Calling someone names is never helpful. trying to teach them you need to have a discussion if in that discussion you disagree then agree to do that and move on.
@freenational
@freenational 3 жыл бұрын
In the old days, my grandma used a parang to split wood. The way she did it was to hold a piece of of wood in one hand and the parang on one end of the wood and knock the free end of the wood on the ground. When the parang has taken a bite, she would knock both the parang and wood against the ground. She would do this until she got enough wood small enough to burn easily in her stove. I regret that I didn't grow up big enough to help her with that chore. My dad moved to the city. By the time I got back for a visit, grandpa's house had electricity and gas.
@nathanphillips1669
@nathanphillips1669 4 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if you by chance have any video's showing how to safely hold a ax while sharpening it? If you don't could you do one? I was also wondering what type or kind of sharpening stone would you recommend for sharpening a knife or ax or is there one that is for the to go all style. Uh, basically one single stone that you would ALWAYS use regardless if you are sharpening a ax or knife?
@weco9808
@weco9808 7 жыл бұрын
#1 rule in survival, adapt and improvise. I guess alot of the experts in survival cary axes and gas powered chain saws in their EDC or bug out bag. Keep doing what you do.
@SurvivalOnPurpose
@SurvivalOnPurpose 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I appreciate it.
@JohnChandler2006
@JohnChandler2006 8 жыл бұрын
LOL..."More power to you Paul Bunyan!" I love it...Great channel, Great vid, Even the experts (Pathfinders, Military personnel, and most experts) recommend using larger knives and batonning them.
@GuysLikeUs
@GuysLikeUs 8 жыл бұрын
To baton wood is such an old, time-honored practice its ridiculous to even have to have this conversation. Smaller tinder, more accuracy with size and control of the blade and safety make batoning with a knife a much better option that trying to cut thin slices with an axe. If you want to split a log, use an axe, if its quartered or better and you need small kindling the knife is the way to go.
@michaelkulman7095
@michaelkulman7095 2 жыл бұрын
I think the best thing if not carrying a hatchet, hawk or axe is to carry a fixed blade knife and a folder and a saw of some kind. If you did break your fixed blade knife you still have your folder and I think that is important and worth mentioning.
@pruthvirajbhople
@pruthvirajbhople 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have any video in which you baton a knife on multi tool? Or any video You recommend? I would like to see how multi tool knives performs under batoning
@SurvivalOnPurpose
@SurvivalOnPurpose 4 жыл бұрын
No. I don't baton folders
@kwerner
@kwerner 9 жыл бұрын
I guess I would be one of those idiots.
@MatoNupai
@MatoNupai 9 жыл бұрын
Me Too!
@landyondrake2003
@landyondrake2003 9 жыл бұрын
Me 3
@frederikdanmarksinkbk280
@frederikdanmarksinkbk280 9 жыл бұрын
Me too
@cogitaretoo
@cogitaretoo 9 жыл бұрын
kwerner I'll help you then: buy one of these tools they call an "axe."
@cogitaretoo
@cogitaretoo 9 жыл бұрын
***** A.) It's called a "hatchet." B.) I and many of my friends carry axes when camping or hiking. I have a 2.5-lb cruiser axe that I keep strapped to my pack. That's not too much weight. If I didn't have an axe, that doesn't automatically turn a knife into an axe. I don't whack things with a crescent wrench just because I don't have a hammer handy.
@shotokido678
@shotokido678 9 жыл бұрын
Glad you got that off your chest. I do have a small criticism though. You didn't baton any wood at the end. I think that would have been the perfect coup de grace. Addendum: May I recommend a theme for next week? Comparison testing of the batoning performance of every full tang knife at your disposal. Just a thought.
@SurvivalOnPurpose
@SurvivalOnPurpose 9 жыл бұрын
Shoto Kido Yeah, I don't know why I didn't do that. And my videos are all scheduled for the next few weeks. I'm on a long overdue vacation with my family. Right now we're in San Diego and we're heading to the Grand Canyon next week. It's amazing what you can do when you lose your job ;-)
@shotokido678
@shotokido678 9 жыл бұрын
Survival On Purpose Well sometimes such events can be a blessing in disguise, and I certainly hope it works that way for you. Enjoy, be safe, and look forward to seeing more of your great reviews. And batoning. Lots of batoning.
@dansoltis6426
@dansoltis6426 5 ай бұрын
Show these folks how to cut pvc with fishing line. You are pointing out how to be resourceful. Keep up the good work!
@madbug1965
@madbug1965 3 жыл бұрын
If you baton a knife like a Buck 119, you can get the blade replaced for only $10 dollars.
@jamesshiels7860
@jamesshiels7860 8 жыл бұрын
You just earned a subscriber 😊 great video
@deadtoad990
@deadtoad990 8 жыл бұрын
I second the that movement!
@TheUnwindingRoad
@TheUnwindingRoad 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, if I wasn't already a subscriber, I would have been after this video.
@douglasmcintyre3297
@douglasmcintyre3297 8 жыл бұрын
It's important to learn from the mistakes of others. In an early 2016 episode of ALONE a person accidentally cut her hand badly below the outside of the thumb she was steadying the wood with, while attempting to split small diameter softwood by holding the axe just below the head with her other hand. In that case batoning would appear to be a significantly safer technique for splitting small diameter wood than choking up on an axe handle. But hindsight is always 20:20, right? On the other hand, if you are in a coastal west coast forest where I live you are surrounded by 6-10 foot diameter cedars and other large conifers, where a good axe is the best choice for that job especially during winter. But do you know anyone who goes off into the woods without a belt knife? I sure as hell don't. Anytime I know I'm going out into nature in North America I carry at least two cuttings tools, of different types. Say, a belt knife and axe, knife and multi-tool, belt knife and hatchet or tomahawk, knife and bow saw, knife and machete, kukra, parang etc. But real life survival isn't always something that person can fully plan for. In a real survival situation the person often has been separated from the rest of the group, has limited supplies and may only have a belt knife, tarp, a roll of twine or paracord, the clothes and other outerwear on your back and whatever is is his/her pockets. Maybe they are in a pack along with a few hanks of cordage, flashlight, metal mess kit, a file or sharpening rod and a good compass and a few very large 3 mil polyethylene garbage bags. Possibly without a firearm to try to hunt small game. Or considerably less. So the goal becomes avoiding panic and self recrimination and using what you have, improvising with the resources that surround you, adapting what you have for different uses and overcoming obstacles and challenges in less than ideal situations. In that situation you'd be forced to use your belt knife for all cutting tasks, the so-called one-tool option (OTO). . Everything from making shelter components, batoning firewood or beaver chewing to make fuel and kindling, making wooden tools and wedges, cutting notches, fine carving tasks and feather sticks, prying and scraping with the back of the blade to remove bark or create tinder. Anyone who doesn't use the knife to baton wood is surviving with one behind there back. Even a $15 dollar Mora will process wood if done correctly High carbon or stainless steel knifes that have a full tang design, sharp 90 degree spine and Scandinavian grind are well suited for processing wood and have very good edge retention. So use it any way you have to to survive that first night and don't let poor advice like the title of this video dissuade you from always having a good belt knife attached to your belt when out in the wild.
@bathcolin
@bathcolin 8 жыл бұрын
Well said Douglas
@GuysLikeUs
@GuysLikeUs 8 жыл бұрын
Reality makes all the difference in the world. These weekend warriors who say only an idiot would baton wood with a knife have little to no real world experience.
@douglasmcintyre3297
@douglasmcintyre3297 8 жыл бұрын
Batoning with a knife or axe is in my opinion a safer, and therefore smarter, method of processing wood than trying to chop a very small diameter piece of wood in half, one-handed.
@PlanetNibiru
@PlanetNibiru 8 жыл бұрын
Wisdom. A++
@PlanetNibiru
@PlanetNibiru 8 жыл бұрын
Try processing small kindling with an Axe or hatchet then try it with a knife and baton. Worlds of difference. Much smaller, finer pieces of wood with a much greater chance of success on your first effort. When fire is a necessity and you have made it in all kinds of weather you will find yourself using the knife baton method. Much safer as well. If you are worried about your knife, you need a better knife.
@michaelnavarre6611
@michaelnavarre6611 5 жыл бұрын
I just started watching you and I think you're spot on brother. There's always "experts"! I love your channel...just subscribed!
@Donna-vs2iq
@Donna-vs2iq 3 жыл бұрын
As a mid 50's female getting back into camp/bush world, I have watched many channels about knives. I wanted to learn about simple ways to enjoy the outdoors. Some of those watched were done by some clearly experienced and knowledgeable individuals, yet of those, some used the first 5 minutes being angry and insulting anyone who uses a knife to baton. Well, all those things takes money, and it's slow to build up quality products. At minute 6 I left the video, and found people like you and David Canterbury and others who truly wants to help others learn. As a beginner, I appreciate the inspiration and non patronizing way you share it. And, you got me on darn tough socks, so thanks for that tip. Subbed and continuing to enjoy you.
@SurvivalOnPurpose
@SurvivalOnPurpose 3 жыл бұрын
Aw shucks. You are too kind.
@NovaSupernova
@NovaSupernova 8 жыл бұрын
You need to relax. You are not an expert, but I am. I was an instructor with the military for 10 years. There is nothing wrong with batoning wood. You are correct. Its even taught in the military. Batoning is quicker in a lot of cases. Its safer in a lot of cases and its easier to cut shingles or small boards for eating on. Its more accurate than an axe in a lot of cases. Just tell those haters to mind their business and create their own channel. In my 52 years, 40 as a survivalist and bush crafter, I have never seen anyone accidentally harm a full tang knife with battening. Stick to your principles, you are on the right track my friend.
@SurvivalOnPurpose
@SurvivalOnPurpose 8 жыл бұрын
+Jay Boss Bushcraft I'm relaxed. Thanks for the support.
@brausse8517
@brausse8517 8 жыл бұрын
+Jay Boss Bushcraft so what military were you a instructor for just nice to no that there are other men out there that did the same as me by the way I have had kids out and they have done better then most grown ups fyi pros but have a good day
@NovaSupernova
@NovaSupernova 7 жыл бұрын
I was in the Canadian military and was a weapons tech. Once I achieved the rank of Master Corporal, I started to train people in winter and jungle warfare.
@kynaston1474
@kynaston1474 7 жыл бұрын
Every respectable survival instructor with every organization teaches batoning. Sometimes the only dry tinder is in the center of the wood and 99% of people don't lug around a hatchet. I don't know who is arguing with you but they are severely misguided.
@SurvivalOnPurpose
@SurvivalOnPurpose 7 жыл бұрын
I agree
@brucebain6664
@brucebain6664 7 жыл бұрын
Well said Adam Bodford. I suspect that people who insist on an axe as a replacement, are probably more familiar with camping out of their vehicle, rather than moving through a real wilderness for days at a time on foot.
@RNW11B94B
@RNW11B94B 2 жыл бұрын
@@brucebain6664 a tomahawk with removable head can split as well as be used as a ulu
@thedetective8150
@thedetective8150 2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s an essential skill to know how to use your knife for batoning wood especially when on day hikes in the wilderness. It’s a lot safer than an axe. An axe requires proper training and proficiency to prevent injury to self and others.
@benabraham7304
@benabraham7304 Жыл бұрын
As a 7 yr Army veteran and now an off grider I baton 7 days a week. No central heating ac here. I use the SCHF 36 that I saw on your video. I use my axe to chop the big woods then baton with my knife for the small stuff to start the fire. Batoning saves wood and you get the exact size you need. The 36 knife is one pound of 1095 steel that holds up well. The only mod I did was removed the coating on the blade. Left it on the handle. After chopping I hit it with a stiff wire brush and put back the edge with ceramic. Its not shaving sharp but I ain't Crocodile Dundee. Nor am I a weekend survivalist. Thanks for the tip on the 36. Keep up the good work. Enjoy your vids.
@johnnypea5369
@johnnypea5369 7 жыл бұрын
which tool is best for spitting wood? the tool you have with you is the first criteria
@SurvivalOnPurpose
@SurvivalOnPurpose 7 жыл бұрын
yep
@JamieHitt
@JamieHitt 9 жыл бұрын
Plain and simple, there are times you may need or want to baton wood with a knife. In many aspects, it is much safer than swinging an axe. You can make finer, more controlled splits with that method. There are other angled cuts or notches that require the baton method as well. This is why we are so concerned with good quality steels with proper heat treat and tempering. It is also why some of us prefer a longer blade. For those who believe in using the right tool for the right job, consider this: If the job is batoning, the proper tools are the knife and baton. If a person wanted to get real critical and technical, ask yourself this: Which is the proper tool for splitting firewood, the axe or the wood maul? I promise you the wood maul will destroy the axe in that job. I will bust up a truck load with the wood maul, while most will spend the whole day prying the axe out of the wood. So yes, guys, batoning is a thing. Get used to it.
@mitch9651
@mitch9651 Жыл бұрын
I remember a post-apocalyptic film in which they opened the trunk of a car and found the complete survival kit with hacksaw, axe etc. and also the protagonist pointed out that it is useless to have everything, if when you need it, the kit is at home or in the car.
@BeeBait
@BeeBait 3 жыл бұрын
All depends. If I'm going in the woods, it's a billhook and a dedicated knife depending on what I'm there for. Hunt or forage.
@williambailey8632
@williambailey8632 8 жыл бұрын
rant on bro. if someone dosnt want to learn other things to help them, then I know who the idiot is. I enjoy your channel keep it up
@SurvivalOnPurpose
@SurvivalOnPurpose 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@ecreacher3515
@ecreacher3515 8 жыл бұрын
+Survival On Purpose I like using a knife for baton in kindling especially
@ecreacher3515
@ecreacher3515 8 жыл бұрын
+Survival On Purpose Lol I've also used my rat 1 folding knife to baton and it totally works
@sqhunter65
@sqhunter65 7 жыл бұрын
you made some good points and don't worry about what people say there's always going to be self-proclaimed Pro You're simply just showing Integrity of the knife most people get that
@SurvivalOnPurpose
@SurvivalOnPurpose 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@dalewarner4216
@dalewarner4216 5 жыл бұрын
I like knowing what any tool is capable of. Your testing including batoning has helped me decide on a couple knives to purchase. I get the knowledge from you without damage to my new knife until it's truly needed. Keep up the tough testing.
@SurvivalOnPurpose
@SurvivalOnPurpose 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad it helped.
@scottpeterson4888
@scottpeterson4888 Жыл бұрын
Be happy that people are calling you names, being a doctor it is a proven fact that what others recognise in you, reveals who they truly are, feel sorry for them because they are living their lives in an unknown state of their own abilities, attributes and skills 😢
@SchradeKnives
@SchradeKnives 9 жыл бұрын
We're behind you all the way Brian!
@SurvivalOnPurpose
@SurvivalOnPurpose 9 жыл бұрын
Schrade Knives Well, there you go. I appreciate the confirmation that some knifes are designed to be used with a baton. So, I guess if someone is concerned about their $300 knife breaking they should check out a $50 Schrade ;-)
@Paul-eb3pg
@Paul-eb3pg 9 жыл бұрын
All the best knife reviewers baton, that is a great way to test steel, especially in cold weather. I am not carrying an axe on my pack that is why I have a big ole cheap schrade. No cussing,subbed, I cannot stand people dropping the f bomb, I have a kid,no reason for it, thanks man, good rant.
@SurvivalOnPurpose
@SurvivalOnPurpose 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul.
@jamesmccaghren3711
@jamesmccaghren3711 2 жыл бұрын
Well said. Don't apologize. I've been an outdoorsman/ mountaineer for well over 50 years and until someone has stood in the same puddles, slept in every storm, and hiked your every trail, they can STFU. I have been making knives for years and that includes knives specifically designed for batoning.
@Patriot-1
@Patriot-1 4 жыл бұрын
I’m 64 and have been carrying a knife of some sort for over 40 years, I’ve recently decided to try a short hiking camp out. I’m looking for a camp type knife such as a kukri and eliminate bringing an ax or hatchet so battening & chopping will be necessary . You’ve been very helpful so I’ll consider any suggestions you have
@davidlatham312
@davidlatham312 7 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY !!! Love the rant and all the content of the rant. Thank you ! Proud to b be a subscriber.
@davidlatham312
@davidlatham312 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bryan.
@SurvivalOnPurpose
@SurvivalOnPurpose 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support!
@mikebenoit158
@mikebenoit158 6 жыл бұрын
Survival On Purpose I'm glad to be a troll it's Ok
@leonardpaxton2869
@leonardpaxton2869 6 жыл бұрын
David Latham Brian," Fools will be FOOLS..I love the way that you took them down. I'm a VERY firm believer in "One is NONE and TWO will do" If you're such an idiot,that you gear doesn't "overlap" In t's purpose,then you've OBVIOUSLY made a VERY bad dicision in your choice.. No need,to call you out,and ABSOLUTELY no need for profanity,what so ever! As Rodney King once said.."Can't we all just get along?!" Keep the faith my friend,haters (jealousy) gonna hate.. Stay STRONG,and go in Jesus name,L.C.
@live4wild968
@live4wild968 9 жыл бұрын
Agree with you Brian. I agree we are all want to be survival bushcraft guys. You are doing a knife review I want you to push the knife to its limits to make sure it's a good product for your viewers. Thanks again don't change what you are doing.
@KevinJStoll
@KevinJStoll 9 жыл бұрын
I agree also....we what to know what a knife is capable of in a survival atmostfear.....period.
@macktightwad606
@macktightwad606 9 жыл бұрын
I agree, i want to see it pushed to it's limit mate, bugger what the others think, you do as you see fit and not what others expect of you .. Keep up the good work mate. Be safe mack..
@johncooper1107
@johncooper1107 2 жыл бұрын
There has been times that i have had to use my knife to chop down small trees or split small amounts of wood. If you are in an "emergency" situation you use what you have with you
@Mc007Queen
@Mc007Queen 3 жыл бұрын
Don't worry what they say , if the fixed blade knife is big enough and heavy-duty enough I don't see a problem splitting wood especially for kindling it's perfectly fine if you're splitting two or three or four in pieces of trees
@steveduffalo4681
@steveduffalo4681 8 жыл бұрын
You just keep doing what your doing brother...we are all learning, and Mother Nature is the ONLY expert out there, I dont care who you are.
@SurvivalOnPurpose
@SurvivalOnPurpose 8 жыл бұрын
+Steve Duffalo True dat.
@briargoatkilla
@briargoatkilla 9 жыл бұрын
I beat the ever living snot out of my knives doing real chores in the real woods. So, I appreciate it very much when I see these knives on KZfaq get clobbered and not break, really saves me some time and expense when I shop. An axe is the last thing I ever need in the backcountry. I occasionally carry one and I always end up creating work for it that I would never normally do. Thanks for your great reviews. I've made several great purchases on your advice, and haven't regretted a single one.
@richardlouis4412
@richardlouis4412 4 жыл бұрын
Batoning is essential to knife-only survival. Demonstrating the knife's durability and demonstrating how to baton properly is good pedagogy! Keep up the good work!
@ajw1976Horn
@ajw1976Horn Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video and ignore the haters. I recently discovered batoning wood as I was trying to find a better way to cut up wood for my grill and smoker. So I’m looking at videos of reviews of the ideal knife to buy to accomplish this, so I appreciate your reviews. Thx!
@pisuarez
@pisuarez 7 жыл бұрын
totally agree!!! don't mind the "HATERS", they are the real wannabes. Great rant bro! thumbs up
@SurvivalOnPurpose
@SurvivalOnPurpose 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@TheGeohart
@TheGeohart 7 жыл бұрын
An honest man, refreshing,
@SurvivalOnPurpose
@SurvivalOnPurpose 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support!
@Labyrnthdom
@Labyrnthdom Жыл бұрын
Man there is plenty of small wood that can be processed with a knife if that is all you have. So the knife itself really needs to be capable of handling that job. That's awesome Dave commented on your channel. I own 3 of his books. Thank you Dave for sharing.
@SurvivalOnPurpose
@SurvivalOnPurpose Жыл бұрын
There may be plenty where you usually hand out but that may not be the case in other environments.
@starlingblack814
@starlingblack814 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Brian, I know your video is now five years old, but I just watched it today. I continuously baton firewood down into kindling for our wood stove using my El Chete from Tops Knives ; it is much more efficient and safer than an axe. I'm an old guy and save energy when and where I can. Some knives were built to do this very thing. Sometimes my twelve year old grandson helps me using his Shrade. Its a good time and I am pleased he is learning a valuable survival skill. Keep up your good work; I enjoy your videos.
@alfonsocasillas7290
@alfonsocasillas7290 9 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why you listened to those negative vampires just keep making your videos and do what you got to do thank you!
@SurvivalOnPurpose
@SurvivalOnPurpose 9 жыл бұрын
I had a moment of weakness ;-)
@alfonsocasillas7290
@alfonsocasillas7290 9 жыл бұрын
You should call your channel survival on KZfaq lol
@SurvivalOnPurpose
@SurvivalOnPurpose 9 жыл бұрын
;-)
@boogityboo1467
@boogityboo1467 9 жыл бұрын
Ever seen anyone day hiking or multi-day hiking with an axe on them? Yeah me neither.
@brianbolton8199
@brianbolton8199 6 жыл бұрын
Your comments are well reasoned and useful. I'm a former boy scout and casual hiker with a go home bag in my car. I travel, often up to 160 miles from home. Here's why your comments on batoning are especially helpful, even necessary. In my humble opinion, for the general healthy population of my age, 60, a GHB bag should generally (there are lots of exceptions) be no more than 15% of body weight (according to many experts). I'm in above average shape, no medical or physical issues, an avid scuba diver, but I'm not military, don't do cross fit, in other words, a long packed "go home" would be doable but arduous. I do have some unique survival skills, some land/hunting oriented (frequently carry rifles/shotguns with small daypacks-contain calls, scent, o/material, cammo...) but many of my other skills are water oriented, thus I need to keep carry weight as lower as possible (GHB weight increases incrementally and a few pounds avoided here and there are important) Hence, a good batonable knife for a go home emergency could get me home without the added weight of axe, so when I get home I can use my axe, hatchet, etc. Keep up the useful efficient tips.
@SurvivalOnPurpose
@SurvivalOnPurpose 6 жыл бұрын
+Brian Bolton thanks Brian, even if you do you spell your name wrong :-)
@ecself1262
@ecself1262 5 жыл бұрын
I actually love that you put a knife through a real stress test while doing a review. I don't see an issue with it and I wish more people would do this type of thing. Gear is expensive and I like knowing that if I buy it, its money well spent. I appreciate that. And honestly as you said in the video I'm much more likely to have a knife on me than an axe. I carry 2 knives with me at all times. I know my axe is most likely in the garage but I may have left it in the shed. Just saying. Keep it up and dont worry about those haters
@user-yb7pg2if2o
@user-yb7pg2if2o 7 жыл бұрын
hey I'm on your side people look for reasons to point out how perfect they are keep on man your channel is very educational.
@SurvivalOnPurpose
@SurvivalOnPurpose 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Gent-gl4hv
@Gent-gl4hv 9 жыл бұрын
I'm one of the ones trying to learn and teach to younger people at the same time rock on man!
@SurvivalOnPurpose
@SurvivalOnPurpose 9 жыл бұрын
You rock on. Thanks for sharing what you are learning.
@SpiritofWildWings
@SpiritofWildWings 10 ай бұрын
Just a thought. As for me personally I almost never baton with a knife. As for me, myself, I have been doing survival trips since the summer of 1973. And my equipment choices have been made by me, tested by me, abused by me, and I go with what I decide to use. (I don't buy the 'popular' items, I buy what is cost affordable - then I purposely abuse it (torture test it), so I can not worry about it. I don't generally carry gear with a brand on it so that I could name-drop over it - I carry what suits me. I like your channel, and we're (WE being those who get actual dirt time) knowing what works, how to make it respond the way we want it to. And I lend no credence to the 'Arm-Chair Survival Experts'. I can tell you how I cook bug to eat, what plants are what, their edibility & medicinal uses, and how to prepare/use them. As I mentioned, I almost never baton. but I appreciate your showing those features/capabilities. I haven't done a gear video in some time, and now I think it is about to be that time. [And we'll see if the 'Mommy's Basement Dwellers' respond. Keep up the good work, keep your trust in yourself, and realize that those losers are about as helpful to your channel as ticks are to making a camping adventure fun!
@Tregrense
@Tregrense 5 ай бұрын
Some of us have a weakness that encourages sniping from the peanut gallery. Social media, even email, because of the nature of the medium can draw on our lower instincts. It's behavioral biology in a limited frame of reference that can be understood. It took me a while to realize my own idiocy. Thanks for making this video. I watch often.
@knifecollector031thenether9
@knifecollector031thenether9 9 жыл бұрын
I like your videos. Do not let your work be influenced by idiot comments. There will be always people who are rude allways. If you would baton with an axe they probably would tell you to use a knife . So keep on the good work.
@cmargheimable
@cmargheimable 7 жыл бұрын
Just a thought. I often bring a fiskars hatchet with me into the woods. If I can find a suitable oak branch, I simply use the hatchet as a wedge and I am able to split very hard, seasoned pieces of wood up to 12 inches thick. Then I use a hatchet to further process the wood. I'm curious why I don't see more videos on this.
@SurvivalOnPurpose
@SurvivalOnPurpose 7 жыл бұрын
+chance alan I don't know.
@joseafmacal1144
@joseafmacal1144 3 жыл бұрын
You have more self control than I do, Sir.
@mikebenoit158
@mikebenoit158 6 жыл бұрын
Love hearing from you Brian
@ap0lmc
@ap0lmc 7 жыл бұрын
Just tell them to kiss off Sir there's a lot of haters and trolls out there.
@tylerthrash3155
@tylerthrash3155 7 жыл бұрын
keep on keeping on brother, there will always be people who put there opinions above all other. you do a great job stay the path....
@SurvivalOnPurpose
@SurvivalOnPurpose 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@snapcountsucks
@snapcountsucks 7 жыл бұрын
I second that, however I might give that axe on my hip during a day hike a go,, might give me a hitch in my giddy up.
@rossbrawley
@rossbrawley 5 жыл бұрын
My children love chopping and wittling in the woods (both girls- 12yrs and 8yrs) I have shown them how to "limb" sticks with a batoning method because the machete and axe are just to dangerous for them. They set the knife on the little limb and pop it with another little log and it pops off... Much safer than axe or machete... Then they scrape the bark off and make little points on the sticks and are super excited about it... And no one looses a finger... Love it .. good stuff thanks Brian
@SurvivalOnPurpose
@SurvivalOnPurpose 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Thanks!
@sir_i.p.freely3757
@sir_i.p.freely3757 3 жыл бұрын
A good full tang drop point knife can do just as well with splitting wood as a hatchet or an axe
@1992MR1992
@1992MR1992 7 жыл бұрын
Dude, you don't have to justify yourself.. no matter what you do, you will always get hate comments.. This video was a waist of your time. Keep up the good work.
@SurvivalOnPurpose
@SurvivalOnPurpose 7 жыл бұрын
I am not so sure. It turned out to be my 2nd most viewed video ever. So I should thank the haters.
@brucebain6664
@brucebain6664 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Survival On Purpose, anytime someone actually knows something, as you clearly do, someone will come along with a truck load of Magical Thinking who has figured out that modern steel is so fragile that it has no use other than cutting 6 pound test monofilament. Keep up the good gear analysis. I like you a lot already. (Send the check soon willya? I cain't live on Saltine Crackers forever, ya know?)
@andreas286
@andreas286 7 жыл бұрын
Us south Vikings hate the north ones.
@joncue0304
@joncue0304 7 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Why wouldn't you want to know what your knife is capable of?
@jkoeberlein1
@jkoeberlein1 4 жыл бұрын
Because a broken knife isn't that useful.
@adamfarrell6697
@adamfarrell6697 4 жыл бұрын
@@jkoeberlein1 True, but the knowledge of knowing you bought a dinky knife before you need it as life saving tool is invaluable.
@DevilDog68
@DevilDog68 5 жыл бұрын
I for one want to know for certain that I can depend on my knife to do whatever i need it to do in a survival situation and how to do it. I appreciate your reviews very much. THANKS!
@SurvivalOnPurpose
@SurvivalOnPurpose 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@k.nightravenm298
@k.nightravenm298 6 жыл бұрын
First and Foremost. You shouldn't apologize for the Rants. It's COMPLETELY understandable when you have to respond to ignorant people who don't understand why you put these knives through the various tests that you do. Personally, a lot of the knives I've purchased have been because of YOUR videos. I purchase knives that can not only function as a cutting tool, but as a Survival Tool as well. I LOVE it when you do the tests you do. Especially batoning. I want to know a knife can survive the tests that you do because then I know the knife can help me to survive in a HARSH Survival situation. ANYONE that says batoning a knife is a person I wouldn't want to be with me in a Survival situation. Secondly, Just about everyone who does knife reviews on KZfaq puts the knives through a baton test. Therefore, whoever says you're an idiot is ignorant and Foolish. Don't get yourself upset for the ignorant responses from those knuckleheads. I personally feel that If they were ever in a REAL Survival Situation, they probably wouldn't last a day. They just don't seem to understand the IMPORTANCE of knowing how much abuse a knife can take. The more abuse a knife can take shows how well it would serve someone in a survival situation. I purchase knives based on the reviews of Yourself, PreparedMind101, Mantis Outdoors, D. Canterbury, Survival Lilly and many others. So I say FORGET those Negative, Ignorant and Foolish People. They probably wouldn't last a day in a Survival Situation and that would be their OWN fault. Keep up the GREAT work.
@SurvivalOnPurpose
@SurvivalOnPurpose 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@anthonyromano8565
@anthonyromano8565 7 жыл бұрын
I am a backpacking hiker that watches a lot of bushcraft channels and bush crafters love their axes and they baton a lot too. This is what I noticed. If they are out in the woods with an axe, it is almost always indicated they only hiked an hour to get to their campsite. That is two to three miles of not exactly ultralight backpacking. If you are hiking 4 to 7 hours to get to your campsite 9 to 15 miles, there is no way you should be lugging around a heavy axe. After 5 or 6 hours of hiking in winter you may not even have time to find wood. A knife on the other hand, offers self-protection and splitting wood and still carry something under 10 ounces. Even then it's not needed unless its wet and cold out.
@peterbeefchicken5237
@peterbeefchicken5237 7 жыл бұрын
Distance is not important. It all depends on what you need to do on the end. Also, when winter camping you always have a sled, so weight is not a real issue.
@anthonyromano8565
@anthonyromano8565 7 жыл бұрын
Anyone can haul a 55 lb pack a mile or two every other year. People who cover 30 to 50 miles several times a year, guaranteed wont be carrying a heavy axe. Fire may be a hope but not a necessity. Not all terrain is suitable for sleds or has enough snow for that matter. In the California sierras a sled would likely pull you down and off of a cliff.
@dstadt71
@dstadt71 7 жыл бұрын
Many people do not hike with a sled in the winter. Why would I want to take an axe with on a long hike when I can take a folding saw and a full tang blade with and accomplish what I need to whether it be winter, summer, spring or fall.
@Terry14.88
@Terry14.88 7 жыл бұрын
Peter Beefchicken that realy depends on the terrain . I never use a sled & allways have at least a hatchet in winter.
@peterbeefchicken5237
@peterbeefchicken5237 7 жыл бұрын
What I mean is that is all depends on your needs and what you expect to find once at the location. Sled is an option, but you're right, it's not always a valid option. One thing remain, you better have an axe rather than breaking your knife and to end up in a real bad situation, especially in winter. Most uses a woodsman hatchet. Small but still able to do the job. It's like using a knife only to build a winter shelter is plain stupid, you may end up with no tools and stuck in the cold. The best is to use two trees right next to each other and insert the branchp in between then to push to split it. The less you use your tools the better it is. This when possible of course. So bottom line, an axe is a good thing depending on what you'll do. It's almost essential in winter because you'll have to prepare tons of wood for warming up but not so essential in summer time. Speaking for myself, I prefer to carry a little extra weight to be safe than to be sorry. And a small woodsman hatchet does the job 99.9% no need for the big bad lumberjack axe lol :)
@VanishingNomad
@VanishingNomad 8 жыл бұрын
Batoning has it's place. I use it for smaller wood, generally to get to the dry wood inside during wet weather firestarting. I also baton when I need to trim wood down to size when I have to carve something. For example, I will baton the sides and corners when I make a bowdrill set. An Ax, is for heavier duty stuff. If I need to split larger logs, or if I want to split medium or smaller things, that do not require a precision cut, I would use the ax. I would not use the ax for splitting the stock when I make a bowdrill set. The ax is too big and clumsy for that. Each tool has it's own range that it works best in. It's simple. I never understood how there came to be an entire camp, that is against batoning, just because an ax exists. Thats like saying you are against a claw hammer, because a sledge hammer exists. Ever see an "Anti-Claw Hammer" camp in the home remolding business? Me neither. Those guys own and use both sledge hammers, AND claw hammers, depending on the job they are doing, and they don't think twice about it. It should be the same with knives and ax's
@bathcolin
@bathcolin 8 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@samuelluria4744
@samuelluria4744 7 жыл бұрын
Exactly right!!!! I have never understood why this is "an issue" for some people (???)
@wcenter6660
@wcenter6660 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve just found your channel, and subscribed. I totally feel the same as you. I follow many others and have noticed that they all baton with a knife. Just because you don’t agree doesn’t make it wrong in bushcraft. There is always another way, and it might possibly be a better way than you thought in the beginning. Keep posting brother. I will be learning so one day I can use the info possibly to survive. Thank you so much! 👍
@dag36523
@dag36523 Жыл бұрын
I find it helpful to watch several videos on the same subject keep an open mind and learn a little from all. That being said your videos are very watchable easy to understand and to the point. Between you and David Canterbury I think survival is pretty well covered. I like the Ivy caps too!
@trioultimo
@trioultimo 7 жыл бұрын
Have u ever been bushcrafting? Or u think cutting trees with stihl and then processing them with an axe is a bushcraft. If someone is comfy with batoning- hes not an idiot!
@SurvivalOnPurpose
@SurvivalOnPurpose 7 жыл бұрын
+Tomek_PL I agree
@jamespool4751
@jamespool4751 7 жыл бұрын
I baton with all my knives. If the knife I just bought cant handle the stress, why would I bet my life on it. If the knife is as tough as an axe, I'll feel more comfortable with it. An axe requires more control, a knife just needs a "baton" to assist it in splitting wood. You are correct in using a Knife to baton wood with sir.
@SurvivalOnPurpose
@SurvivalOnPurpose 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@lazywolf8343
@lazywolf8343 7 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with you and I have had to split larger wood for a fire and did not have an axe packed up with me and I think your videos help when choosing which knives to use
@SurvivalOnPurpose
@SurvivalOnPurpose 7 жыл бұрын
+Lazy Wolf thank you
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