What Legacy Players Hate About TEKKEN 8

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2 ай бұрын

What Legacy Players Hate About TEKKEN 8
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@TVFGC
@TVFGC 2 ай бұрын
It’s very unfortunate for the true legacy players. Understandable the thoughts the industry has for modern fighting games, but it’s going to be divisive for your long time dedicated fans. Especially if you are someone to do this for a living. Maybe Tekken 8 will over time become more balanced as Tekken 8 did go straight to consoles and not arcade. But this aggressive heavy stuff may bring more eyes and money, however is that worth of losing the integrity of fighting games? For the community to decide.
@StoopidSnot
@StoopidSnot 2 ай бұрын
I second the straight to Console theory, by the time T7 came to consoles it may as well be 2.0. Time will tell I guess
@johndoofus9602
@johndoofus9602 Ай бұрын
I thought it was just me. From tekken 7 to tekken 8 it feels totally different, the heat adds on top of it. Power crush heat engages ,and then some characters have high power crushes that aren’t punishable , it just becomes a guessing game past what is tekken. Now it’s like if you don’t play aggressive youre more than likely to lose Having a hard time in making it past high blues rn using kazuya
@Squig911
@Squig911 2 ай бұрын
It's 100% a business decision by the new iterations of fighting games. They have made them more mash friendly to appeal to the casual crowd to stay relevant. Mk1,Sf6, and Tekken 8 have become mainly offensive games. Not to mention so many mechanics to bypass fundamentals. I dont even know why we act shocked, this is what fighting games had to do to stay relevant;make the game immediately rewarding.
@abramlittle7102
@abramlittle7102 2 ай бұрын
But tekken 7 was hugely popular without all the bs
@dycars8443
@dycars8443 2 ай бұрын
You can make your own fighting game then will let you know about it 😂
@RipsharkTV
@RipsharkTV 2 ай бұрын
I hope they fail so they can get their heads straight. Fighting Games should be a genre that pleases the hardcore crowd because it’s ultimately us who carry the game on for years
@funkrates4778
@funkrates4778 2 ай бұрын
Love that Tekken 4 airport song
@vishramramoutar
@vishramramoutar 2 ай бұрын
the background music is way louder than the commentary
@RobC2201_
@RobC2201_ 2 ай бұрын
If nothing else, they gotta kill or nerf chip damage. It's insane that in a Tekken game you get penalized for blocking. It's wild, but this is what Harada wanted. He didn't like Arslan & Knee's defensive play styles wanted a more exciting game style for casuals to watch/ play & here we are smh
@redline841
@redline841 2 ай бұрын
From what I have seen, gamers don't like fighting up against turtles. I will say he has made a compromise with the recoverable health feature, but that could be a pseudo bandaid
@RipsharkTV
@RipsharkTV 2 ай бұрын
@@redline841love fighting turtles, so rewarding getting around their seemingly impenetrable defense. I never understood people that complained about that. Never had issues locking a runner down. If you’re in a fight not everyone is gonna be a brawling infighter, some are gonna try to outbox. Your job is to tight that outboxer in just like you gotta figure out a infighters offense before u get bopped by the barrage of fists. Hate that T8 took that option away
@DEmeant0r
@DEmeant0r Ай бұрын
@@RipsharkTVI’ve found some players in ranked that still play the defensive t7 way and it was a breath of fresh air. I feel like after every single match with a masher I’ve completely lost my breath because the action moves like crazy, the animation of some characters is insane and makes it difficult to even know what’s going on in the screen. I uninstalled the game today and I honestly don’t know if I’ll go back to it.
@jordiogando695
@jordiogando695 Ай бұрын
And for that, I won’t forgive Harada
@ALTF-bo8uq
@ALTF-bo8uq 26 күн бұрын
Same my friend,if they dont remove heat system or fix this 50-50 ape ugabanga game play, i never play Tekken again in my life,i played tekken since tk2 🤦🤦🤦
@TheCRX7
@TheCRX7 2 ай бұрын
The last Tekken I played was Tekken3 , but I DID play a ton of Soul Calibur 1and 3, and I can DEFINITELY feel a little bit of Soul Calibur in T8's DNA. I'm REALLY enjoying Tekken 8.
@houstonraver834
@houstonraver834 2 ай бұрын
I wanted to learn kazua but he’s to honest for me not fast enough so I went back to Reina because she’s more fast and much more aggressive, fits the game style more and do much better with her but I don’t like it but I have to “adapt” right lol pretty dumb but it’s just keep the aggression and try to not let my opponent breath. With kazua it was defend look for an openings then punish but that’s hard to do when I can’t seem to breath because of the high aggression so renia it is
@BigHomieSenpai
@BigHomieSenpai 2 ай бұрын
My only complaint about this game is the tracking some attacks have. Everything else is great
@abramlittle7102
@abramlittle7102 2 ай бұрын
The left side of the controller has always been more important than the right side in all tekken games until t8
@Mr.SteelinKeepIt
@Mr.SteelinKeepIt 2 ай бұрын
Ya know, ive heard one complaint. And it was a friend of mine. He was never a big fan of Tekken and his biggest peeve about it was that the characters are not farther from each other at the round start and its not a "true neutral" start. Thoughts?
@redline841
@redline841 2 ай бұрын
He wants true neutral? Let us move pur characters during the start of the match
@funkrates4778
@funkrates4778 2 ай бұрын
Maybe. The fight starts before the countdown ends. You’re forced to engage right away. It promotes interaction. I kind of liked that in Tekken 4 you could move around before the fight even began. I bet your friend hated that game. Lol
@kombokenji
@kombokenji 2 ай бұрын
I mean legacy players are always gonna have that edge, that’s why Tekken is what it is. Movement has been nerfed somewhat, but still the skill gap exists. New player isn’t just gonna beat a god of destruction or not be hard-stuck in like blue or purple ranks. Like the gameplay is good and a very nice change of pace from 7. I do believe the heat smash and rage art are a little bit too much and should definitely be toned down since they’re both essentially comeback mechanics, but after they do that I feel like the game is gonna be significantly in a better spot
@Gauze-sb2fo
@Gauze-sb2fo 2 ай бұрын
Can’t stand Nina, Jin, King, Drag, Azucena. They have way too much. Oh and Feng too
@DEmeant0r
@DEmeant0r Ай бұрын
Feng with his stupid heat move where he smashes the ground and disables you is just fucking ridiculous. Who thought it would be a good idea? And the amount of heat smashes that low is insane.
@allwheeldeal
@allwheeldeal 2 ай бұрын
Being brand new to Tekken I COMPLETELY LOVE THE GAME and haven't touched SF6 or MK1 since the launch. I have a different outlook being brand new and coming from 2d fighters. There is a lot to learn and its been fun no doubt. I can't speak on previous Tekken games but in this one I do feel a lot more comfortable with combos and offensive pressure. I truly thought this how the game has always been. I am seeing the VETS complaining about the current game and mechanics and respectfully I can't disagree with their opinions. However, this for me is the best fighting game I have ever played but that doesn't say much because I felt MK11 was the best MK game ever LOL and most people say it was the worst until MK1 LOL. For the pro players and such that are complaining I ask why not just adjust to the game??? If it's very offensive/ aggression based then just become that then right ? Now granted I do get juggled damn near an entire round and that does kinda suck but I mean If I had the skill set to do that I would do it as well LOL. . Doesn't make the game a disaster tho. Getting opened up and whiffing are crucial no doubt and you have to think differently. Now with the older tekken games the user base was probably far less because of the gameplay and how complicated it was to pick up. That was a huge factor and now mistake on my part for not learning the game because I would much rather have spent time learning Tekken than both SF and MK honestly. I regret not playing the game for this entire time and now play EVERDAY.... In saying that, if they do make adjustments to the game guess what ? I will adapt and continue you playing !!!
@liu3chan
@liu3chan 2 ай бұрын
Where are you from?
@axellyann5085
@axellyann5085 2 ай бұрын
Now that you have some feel for the game try playing any previous game and you will understand vets complaints. Pick T5 and you will see how much godlike movement was and no tracking moves; Go to Tag 2 and movement is still awesome, but now with some tracking moves; Go to T7 and you will notice that sidestep was nerfed to the ground and tracking moves are now super common, but you can at least kbd; Now go back to T8 and you will feel the difference. Offense buffed to the roof while nerfing defensive options (movement) to the ground.
@IanKnight-sf1zn
@IanKnight-sf1zn 2 ай бұрын
Nice to have input from someone totally new. Allow me to try and explain more. Tekken was never too complicated, we've always had mashers and masher friendly characters since the first two tekkens. Virtua Fighter was more technical. But it was mainly juggles, mixups, and pressure. I saw them add armored moves in tekken revolution and that was the beginning of this new change, now ppl would over abuse certain moves because they went through others moves, problem is not all are equal. Rage was an effect that gave you extra power when your health was low and even that was thought to be overpowered at some times. Now we have unlimited armored moves, in addition to an armored attack stance (heat) and a rage art, it's way more than necessary and more than any tekken player would need considering they also added new cool moves and stances to all of the characters... I've never seen so many characters with stances in a tekken game... those moves are powerful and can be done multiple times... it's all too much. But here's the real problem. New ppl coming in will have more incentive to simply learn heat and armored moves and little incentive to learn old school basic setups to get ppl to fall for your moves. That's what tekken used to be about, being so good, the opponents knows what you can do, but you do a sequence so unusual that it confounds them into making a mistake, then counter.
@Gwar-Deth
@Gwar-Deth 2 ай бұрын
iv been playing tekken for a long time now and iv been waiting for tekken to get more aggressive and iv been an aggressive player finally the game can keep up with me for once but im am getting sick of these players that plug lag switch and combo mash
@Dark_Tesla
@Dark_Tesla 2 ай бұрын
Kill Chip damage, make Heat burst/smash easy to avoid with movement. And I think it’s perfect.
@Jimson-wx8uq
@Jimson-wx8uq 2 ай бұрын
Can't hear you over the music
@zzz8606
@zzz8606 2 ай бұрын
Imo, heres what needs to happen. Heat dash should be reduced to +15 on block as opposed to the current +17(guarantees certain tech if buffered during dash). Armored, safe, mid/high heat engagers shouldnt exist. If they do, it should be off a duckable string. Reduce the current ones to -13 or -12(12 if they dont want kazuya to launch certain ones that leave him crouching). Heat smashes should be more dynamic. The more rewarding ones should be -7 while the less rewarding ones retain better properties. Rage arts should be -18 on block not 15. My character can launch -15 but not all characters can. Outside of those, just nerf the top 10 and buff the bottom 5 in healthy ways and i think tekken 8 will be in a much better place. Not gonna get into specific nerfs and why because thatll just be a long ass post. Feel free to bring up specific characters though and ill talk about em. I do love tekken 8 but definitely feels like it lacks counterplay.
@SoloGains
@SoloGains 2 ай бұрын
🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@SSBSunday
@SSBSunday 2 ай бұрын
Me and my friends are blue rank. First time tekken players, we love it lol funnest we’ve had, not too many complaints but can see the complaints from legacy players.
@101mrcrazyman
@101mrcrazyman 2 ай бұрын
the fact the you and your new friends already reached blue rank in tekken is all i needed to read. That wouldnt happen in tekken 7 even with a year of practice. Games for babies now
@liu3chan
@liu3chan 2 ай бұрын
Legacy players are just bitches.
@abramlittle7102
@abramlittle7102 2 ай бұрын
​@@101mrcrazyman He's got a point
@houstonraver834
@houstonraver834 2 ай бұрын
Crazyyyyyyy
@houstonraver834
@houstonraver834 2 ай бұрын
Who u play ???
@liu3chan
@liu3chan 2 ай бұрын
I love how everybody was bitching about Tekken 7 being Tekken 5.3 and when they finally do something new people are complaining about it not being "true Tekken".
@LAGator-qu7tc
@LAGator-qu7tc 2 ай бұрын
Tell them to make their own game
@LAGator-qu7tc
@LAGator-qu7tc 2 ай бұрын
Tell them to make their own game
@abramlittle7102
@abramlittle7102 2 ай бұрын
Just because it's new doesn't mean it's not flawed
@SW-zb6bf
@SW-zb6bf 2 ай бұрын
Who is everybody? People complained about characters, but not the game itself
@kevinsyz1201
@kevinsyz1201 2 ай бұрын
no one complained about the game, they complained about the characters and how some characters just need to follow a flow chart to win, theres no thinking in tekken 8 at this point, playing good defense doesnt even matter anymore because the sidestep is so fucked because of character hitboxes, blocking rarely does nothing except chip at your health when your op is in heat getting free plus frames on activation and they can do their own thing because of it. Respecting frames and playing tekken by frames is just not as rewarding as tekken 8, if you mash in tekken 8 you can easily get away from it, not in tekken 7 or 5, you can see the contrast between the skill of people who play by frames than people who dont.
@Warum-yt3ou
@Warum-yt3ou 2 ай бұрын
I like playing Tekken 8
@LowRider7416
@LowRider7416 2 ай бұрын
Music's too loud and it's tough to follow you man. I mean i can but i really have to concentrate. Not pleasant to listen to. I did watch the video for the oppinion though. Was curious about the game's state. So this is just a small advice from the viewer's perspective.
@PerfectLegend
@PerfectLegend 2 ай бұрын
sorry I’ll do better next time on the production
@riotron1026
@riotron1026 2 ай бұрын
In short people are upset because they don’t like change. Yeah that checks out….
@azteckjumbie9344
@azteckjumbie9344 2 ай бұрын
In short scrubs loves the game being dumbed down to their level
@ALTF-bo8uq
@ALTF-bo8uq 26 күн бұрын
True,lot of players in gold rank cant punish hellsweep properly 😂😂😂 how sad cant be all that dog shit system and balance character s... I feel sr for all Tekken veterans out there
@NYG5
@NYG5 2 ай бұрын
There should be no such thing as an S tier character, outside of some wonky tracking the A to B characters are fine.
@KidArkx
@KidArkx 2 ай бұрын
There will always be an s tier , once characters are figured out and the system is understood. There will always be people who intentionally or not are able to manipulate the game better. For example with the changes to grabs , grapplers will always be strong in T8 unless they nerf grabs.
@liu3chan
@liu3chan 2 ай бұрын
In Tekken, character tierlists are just for the top 0.1% of players.
@theddj
@theddj 2 ай бұрын
I think heat engagers are the most "balanced" part of the heat system. since its attached to a move that the character has to hit you with in neutral, instead of a knockdown or a launch (which many of these moves used to do) you get a free mixup as the reward. theres also no launching 50/50 mix (mid vs. low) outside of some specific situations with stages. some of the heat engagers are on overpowered moves, but the mechanic makes sense. the messed up stuff for me is the heat dashes and the heat smashes. heat dashes can turn launch punishable moves into armored plus on block launchers (especially nasty when they cause massive plus frames at the wall). the heat smash attacks are so dummy proof that if you have the hardest read on someone about to use it, you still have to block and guess. being able to sit on an unavoidable attack stifles the neutral too much since the defender has no option but to block and guess (even if they have gotten the read). some people suggest that heat smashes cannot continue past the first hit on whiff, and reduce the coverage (tracking/range). If I have a read on a heat smash as the defender I should have a reliable counter to use (even if its risky to go for).
@dycars8443
@dycars8443 2 ай бұрын
I want to complain about the complaining too 😂
@soulshock8797
@soulshock8797 2 ай бұрын
0-13.
@ALTF-bo8uq
@ALTF-bo8uq 26 күн бұрын
"Tekken 8 "gonna be Dead game Very soon,bamco dont give a fck about cheats and pluggers 😂😂 no way they fix their fcn game about balance and new dog shit system and cheap dmg... As old Tekken player from tk2 i have to say this shit is not tekken.. rip
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